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CITY OF PALM DESERT
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
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TUESDAY, JULY 7, 2020 — 6:00 P.M.
ZOOM VIRTUAL MEETING
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Lindsay Holt called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present
Commissioner Joseph Pradetto
Commissioner Ron Gregory
Commissioner Nancy DeLuna
Vice -Chair John Greenwood
Chair Lindsay Holt
Also Present:
Craig Hayes, Assistant City Attorney
Ryan Stendell, Director of Community Development Eric
Ceja, Principal Planner
Nick Melloni, Assistant Planner
Christina Canales, Engineering Assistant
Monica O'Reilly, Management Specialist II
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Joseph Pradetto led the Pledge of Allegiance.
IV. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
For the upcoming City Council meeting, Director of Community Development Ryan Stendell
reported that the Council would be considering awarding a contract for the CV Link project,
within the City of Palm Desert jurisdiction for $5.5 million to Granite Construction. The portion
for CV Link would start at the Bump and Grind and end at the eastern boundary of Hovley
Lane East (east of Cook Street).
Commissioner Nancy DeLuna commented that she drove down San Pablo Avenue, and
complimented the City and everybody that worked on the project, which will connect to CV
Link. It is an excellent addition to Palm Desert.
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Chair Holt said she drove down San Pablo Avenue the day before and agreed that it looks
lovely. However, she asked if there is anything that could be done to stop the spread of tire
tread on the crosswalks.
Mr. Stendell believed someone decided to do a "brodie" (a severe vehicle skid).
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Regular Planning Commission meeting of June 16, 2020.
Rec: Approve as presented.
B. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION to approve a Parcel Map Waiver application to
merge lots at El Paseo, San Luis Rey Avenue, and Larrea Street (APNs 627-271-015 &
627-271-006). Case No. PMW 19-0007 (P.D. Partners LLC Palm Desert California
Applicant).
Rec: By Minute Motion, approve Case No. PMW 19-0007.
Upon a motion by Vice -Chair Greenwood, seconded by Commissioner DeLuna,
and a 4-0-1 vote of the Planning Commission, the Consent Calendar was approved as
presented (AYES: DeLuna, Greenwood, Gregory, and Holt; NOES: None; ABSTAINED:
Pradetto).
VII. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
None
IX. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
X. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION for approval of Conditional Use Permit (CUP) 19-
0002 to allow the construction of a 65-foot-tall wireless telecommunication facility, and a
288-square-foot equipment enclosure at 78005 Country Club Drive; and adoption of a
Notice of Exemption in accordance with the California Environmental Quality Act
(CEQA). Case No. CUP 19-0002 (Smartlink, LLC—AT&T Cardiff California Applicant).
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Assistant Planner Nick Melloni presented the staff report (staff report(s) are available at
www.cityofpalmdesert.org). As part of the public hearing process, City staff received several
letters in opposition from the representative for the SBA communications tower located to the
north, which is an existing vacant tower. He disclosed that SBA is opposed to the design and
the proximity to the existing tower. He noted that the SBA representative emailed another letter
on short notice and staff forwarded to the Planning Commission around 5:00 p.m. Staff also
received two emails in favor, and one voicemail opposed to the monopalm. Staff recommended
approval of the monopalm as proposed, and adopting the Notice of Exemption and Planning
Commission Resolution No. 2779, subject to the conditions of approval. Additionally, modify
the resolution findings by referencing the waiver of the 1000-foot separation requirement
because of the stealth design of the tower. He said the applicant is in attendance and prepared
to present a PowerPoint.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if it correct that there is a significant signal coverage gap in the
project area.
Mr. Melloni replied that is correct.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if it is also correct that other sites were infeasible.
Mr. Melloni responded that the applicant identified the other sites as being infeasible due to
several different reasons. He said the applicant could give more details.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if it is correct that the applicant tried to collocate and was
unsuccessful.
Mr. Melloni replied yes, due to a lack of an agreement between the two entities.
Commissioner DeLuna inquired if the site is adequately served by all the required facilities and
public services.
Mr. Melloni replied yes.
Chair Holt declared the public hearing open and invited public testimony FAVORING or
OPPOSING this matter.
MS. ALEXIS DUNLAP, the representative for AT&T, Cardiff, California, appreciated the
opportunity to speak to the Planning Commission. She presented a PowerPoint presentation to
briefly explain how a particular location for a cell site selected. She said they contacted several
property owners, and they did not receive a response. The following are reasons AT&T did not
consider the SBA tower as a viable alternative or candidate: 1) AT&T considered SBA an
unwilling property owner. AT&T submitted a letter to the Planning Department that there was no
agreement in place between AT&T and SBA. AT&T instructed her that the SBA tower is not to
be considered a willing property owner in the market at this time; 2) The SBA and Verizon
tower were not considered because a collocation on a monopalm defeats stealth concealment;
and 3) AT&T did not consider the SBA tower as a valid collocation opportunity because the
SBA tower does not have a valid permit, it is considered abandoned, and should be removed.
She briefly read Section 25.34.13 regarding an abandoned tower. She added that they have
been
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working with Planning staff for several months, and pointed out that they moved the location of
the equipment shelter, added some live palm trees and additional landscaping, and slimmed
down the number of antennas to better blend with the surrounding community. She
appreciated all that City staff has done to get them to this point. She offered to answer any
questions.
Commissioner Ron Gregory found it interesting that there is an existing vacant tower, which
could adapt to the needs of AT&T, and be less expensive than building a brand new tower. He
stated there is clearly negotiation problems. He asked why AT&T and SBA cannot come to an
agreement.
MS. DUNLAP responded that she would be happy to answer that question, but it is above her
pay grade. She stated that there is a disagreement between the upper -level management of
both entities. She said until it gets resolved and they could come to an agreement, the
directors of AT&T instructed her that she should not consider SBA as a willing property owner.
Commissioner DeLuna commented that SBA abandoned the tower for 180 days and the
subsequent 180 days. She asked what the status is of the SBA tower.
MS. DUNLAP answered that she has a letter from Sprint, which was the tenant on the SBA
tower. The letter from Sprint states that they terminated the lease agreement effective
September 30, 2018.
Commissioner DeLuna clarified that the SBA well passes the 180 days. MS. DUNLAP replied
that is correct.
Commissioner Gregory noticed that the palms the applicant suggested to supplement the
monopalm are of a different variety than the monopalm. He felt that the applicant would better
camouflage or disguise the monopalm with the appropriate palms.
MS. DUNLAP responded that they could change the type of monopalm or palm trees,
whichever the Planning Commission would prefer.
Chair Holt asked if it is correct, the minimum cell tower height would remain 65 feet. MS.
DUNLAP replied that is correct.
Chair Holt inquired if the proposed trees would not reach the 65-foot height.
MS. DUNLAP explained that if all the trees were of the same height, they would block a portion
of the signal. They always propose tress at least 10 feet shorter than the top of the antennas.
Chair Holt asked if it is correct that there would always be a height differential regardless of
what type of trees are planted or mimicked on the tower.
MS. DUNLAP replied that is correct.
Commissioner Gregory commented that real palm trees would keep growing.
MS. DEVIN HINDIN asked if there is a specific software program that the applicant is using to
get the RF mapping of cellular coverage.
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Mr. Stendell interjected that the Planning Commission is still asking questions, and the Chair
will ask the public for comments in a little bit.
Chair Holt agreed, adding that the public would have an opportunity to make comments.
MR. JOHN HENNING, the representative for SBA, Los Angeles, California, stated that he
listened with great interest to Ms. Dunlap's presentation. He agreed with Commissioner
Gregory's comment that this is much simpler than anybody is telling him so far. The fact of the
matter is SBA is prepared to lease its tower to AT&T; however, AT&T does not make the call to
SBA. He stated that SBA has reached out to AT&T, and have recently made deals with SBA in
southern California. He said AT&T is faking it when they are telling the Planning Commission
that there is some kind of national barrier that keeps them from collocating. He said what AT&T
is trying to do is get around the requirement that they seriously consider collocating. He noted
that he has sent a letter 25 pages long and has sent other letters to make their case. AT&T
continues to say that they cannot collocate so that they could build their tower. He believed the
purpose of the City's code is to ensure that there are not unnecessary extra towers. He said
there is a vacant tower that is 900 feet away at the same height being proposed, a monopalm,
and has no tenant. Therefore, AT&T could easily be the tenant for this tower. He voiced that for
the Commission to accept out of hand something AT&T is representing from a person that
says it is not in her pay grade to decide the question is outrageous. He said the City might as
well eliminate the rule that requires people to consider collocation. The SBA tower is ready for
AT&T, they have not abandoned the tower, and Mr. Ceja wouldconfirm that his position at this
point, they have used their 180 days of a 360-day period during which they have the right to re-
initiate the use by simply putting another tenant on the tower. He expressed that the SBA
tower is not going anywhere. If the Planning Commission approves the AT&T tower, SBA would
get another tenant for the tower, and the City would have an extra tower that is not needed. He
asked for a little more time to display some of his slides, which are in the letter he submitted.
He requested the continued use by AT&T of the graphic that shows the horrible array below
the palm frond. AT&T is aware that SBA's equipment on the towers are not being used, and
there is not going to be an array in the below the palm fronds. Additionally, AT&T never made
any attempt to communicate with SBA. SBA attempted to communicate with AT&T. There is no
resistance to making any kind of deal with AT&T. He stated that AT&T wants to have its own
tower so they can set their own terms. He said AT&T have no technical objection to SBA's
tower. At the City's expense, AT&T wants to put a duplicate tower up in the middle of a visible
location near residential homes so that they can dictate the financial terms. He stated that
AT&T is supposed to, in good faith, explore collocation. He requested more time to speak to
show their misrepresentation by showing some slides.
Chair Holt commented that she printed out the letter from Mr. Henning. However, she did not
know if the rest of the Planning Commission had an opportunity to review the letter before
making a decision. She asked City staff if it is best to allow Mr. Henning to give a presentation.
Mr. Stendell responded that the staff has complied with their obligation by emailing the letter to
the Planning Commission at about 5:00 p.m. He felt that the Planning Commission has gone
above and beyond through the COVID-19 pandemic period to make sure voices are heard. He
did not know if the Chair was willing to give more time. However, if the Planning Commission
was going to allow more time, he recommended setting a time limit. He has learned with the
Architectural Review Commission that meetings could go on for some time, and he does not
want to turn this meeting into legal battle. He made clear that this public hearing on a land use
decision.
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Commissioner DeLuna asked how much time Mr. Henning have to respond to the public
notice.
Mr. Melloni responded that there was a 10-day public notice comment period.
Commissioner DeLuna clarified that Mr. Henning had nine days and 23 hours to respond, but
did not respond until an hour before the meeting. He is now asking for more time because it is
a 25-page letter.
Mr. Stendell reiterated that it is up to the Planning Commission if they want to give Mr.
Henning additional time.
In this situation, Chair Holt asked the Planning Commission if they felt it would be fair and
equitable to allow an additional three minutes.
Commissioner Pradetto answered that he was able to peruse part of the letter. He found
some of the items in Mr. Henning's letter persuasive. He would like to allow the additional
three minutes for Mr. Henning to continue his case.
The Planning Commission agreed to allow an additional three minutes.
MR. HENNING displayed slides from AT&T's simulations of their tower. He pointed out the
height of the tower, trees, and surrounding area. He felt that AT&T is not doing the
simulations correctly, playing it by ear, and making stuff up. He communicated that the
simulation that the Planning Commission is looking at is not accurate and is misrepresented.
He pointed to the SBA tower, admitting that it is not in great shape. He said AT&T would
collocate with SBA if the Planning Commission denied the project. He stated AT&T have
done it before in Dana Point and Desert Hot Springs. He shared that Planning Commissions'
voice their concerns with the project and they ask AT&T to consider collocating, then AT&T
agrees, notwithstanding that there is no national agreement.
Chair Holt interjected that Mr. Henning's time had expired and appreciated the additional
information.
The following individuals provided public comment via email or voicemail (Staff forwarded
emails/voicemails to the Planning Commission).
MR. & MRS. GENE AND JAN KNUTSON, Palm Desert, California — In favor of the project.
MS. KAREN FALEN, Palm Desert, California — In favor, stating that they currently do not
have quality cellular communication.
MR. KERN MARLOW, Palm Desert, California — Opposed the project, stating that they do not
need more monopalms.
MS. DEVIN HINDIN, Palm Desert, California, asked if there is a specific type of software
program to show the coverage gap that is supposedly happening in the proposed area. There
is a multitude of different RF coverage software programs that you can access, and they do not
show the same kind of significant coverage gap that was shown on the screen.
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Chair Holt made a note of the question and asked if anyone else had any comments.
In closing, MS. DUNLAP stated that she did comment on whether or not AT&T and SBA
could work together is above her pay grade. However, she said the Planning Commission does
not have to take her word for it. She noted that AT&T's counsel submitted two letters to the
Planning staff, which are part of the public record stating that there is no national agreement
in place. She said Mr. Henning mentioned that the purpose of the City of Palm Desert's code is
to keep unnecessary cell towers out of the public. She reiterated that AT&T feels very
strongly that the SBA abandoned their tower. AT&T also has proof that Sprint vacated SBA's
tower on September 31, 2018, and they gave the letter to the Planning staff. Therefore, AT&T
did not consider the SBA tower for multiple reasons as a collocation opportunity. She said Mr.
Henning brought up some view plans, and AT&T make the stand that the plans are photo
simulations. The photo simulations are only what looks like a photo, and are for plan view
purposes to aid the Planning staff in making a decision. She stated that they based the photo
simulations on architectural AutoCAD software. She is not completely positive about why Mr.
Henning felt that AT&T is making stuff up. She also has another letter from AT&T counsel that
she received not too long ago and has not shared with the Planning Commission as of yet.
Again, AT&T counsel feels that not only was the SBA tower abandoned, but also they do not
consider SBA a willing property owner. In response to Ms. Hindin's question, AT&T does
have a very specific software program that they use; however, she is not at liberty to give
specific information with regard to the software. AT&T could provide the City of Palm Desert
software information, which can give more detail as to the significant gaps in coverage. She
noted that courts have generally found that the propagation maps submitted by AT&T are
sufficient evidence to establish significant gaps. She offered to answer any additional
questions.
Chair Holt asked Ms. Dunlap if this item was denied or continued, what would be the next
alternative for AT&T. She also inquired if they would look at other locations, or look at
collocating. She understood that the initial presentation of the site selection is limited in the
area.
MS. DUNLAP responded that her client has instructed her, if the Planning Commission
denied this item, they would file an appeal to the City Council. For the reason that they have
met their burden of proof in showing, they do have a significant gap in coverage, and it is the
least intrusive in fulfilling that particular gap.
Commissioner Gregory said what if SBA wanted to charge AT&T a billion dollars to use their
tower, and if AT&T recognizes that SBA has difficulty right now with a vacant tower, let us say
AT&T is offering SBA $1.95 for the tower. The Planning Commission does not know what is
going on; however, it is very likely the source of this disagreement. He stated that he does not
know what laws prevail here. There are many issues such as the towers are very close (under
1,00 feet), a federal law requiring cities to make way for communication towers, a will of the
City to not have more towers than necessary, SBA has AT&T describing them as an unwilling
tenant, and SBA hired legal counsel to hurl their tower at AT&T. He said it does not make
sense to him. He felt there is a business deal that is not working out well. He stated he is
summarizing everything, and it is above his pay grade. He does not know what is going on with
the terms concerning the negotiation process, which is not going well.
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With no further testimony offered, Chair Holt declared the public hearing closed.
Chair Holt echoed Commissioner Gregory's comments. Additionally, she was not sure if there
is anything that the Planning Commission or City staff could do to force the hand of one
company to collocate with another, assuming that is the case. She asked Mr. Stendell if that is
correct.
Mr. Stendell replied that is correct. He stated that they are looking at this from a land -use
perspective, and that is how the staff presented it to the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Pradetto believed that Commissioner Gregory's comments are right, and it
seems the City wrote the code to promote collocating because it makes sense in terms of
aesthetics and impact. He felt the squabble between SBA and AT&T is one that would make
the residents suffer, and the best thing ideally would be for collocation. Whether that happens
or not, it is outside of the City's control. In terms of land use, collocation is ideal.
Vice -Chair John Greenwood commented that from a land -use perspective, the current cell
tower locations are optimal compared to what AT&T proposed at the gas station site. In the
initial planning stage that AT&T looked at, they provided a circle. If he looked at the circle
correctly, those locations are more in the center of the circle than what is being proposed at
the Mobile gas station. Therefore, considering there is an option to collocate, he leaned to
continue this case to see if there are more options down the road.
Commissioner Gregory asked Commissioner Greenwood if he thought that a resolution could
be made if the Planning Commission continued this item. He wondered if the Commission
has the power, so to speak, to encourage the participants in a squabble to come to the table
and make an agreement. He agreed that collocation would be, as far as land use, the most
opportune for the City.
Vice -Chair Greenwood said if the Planning Commission continues this item, he believed the
applicant would submit an appeal to the City Council. He asked Mr. Stendell if that is correct.
Mr. Stendell responded if the item is denied, the Planning Commission would need to
continue and direct staff to prepare a resolution for denial. The resolution would be brought
back to a future meeting.
Commissioner Pradetto asked what would happen if the item does not get a majority vote, and
is that not the same as a denial.
Mr. Stendell replied yes.
Commissioner DeLuna voiced her concern for the neighborhood, which is lacking wireless
service. She understood that the applicant and SBA negotiations have been ongoing. She
noted that the SBA tower has been abandoned for over two years and not in good condition.
She felt that the SBA tower would require a significant overhaul for that to be the site. She did
not dislike the proposed site, but agreed the other site would be ideal. However, if AT&T and
SBA cannot come to an agreement, the neighborhood would be penalized.
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Considering that the site is a primary entrance to the City and from a land -use perspective,
Vice -Chair Greenwood stated that the Planning Commission has to be careful when
considering this item. He felt uncomfortable deciding in favor of this item; the conflict is
between the two parties. He said the SBA site would be more beneficial based on the
presentation and is leaning toward a continuance or denial.
Commissioner Pradetto agreed with Vice -Chair Greenwood.
Commissioner DeLuna moved to continue this item, and Commissioner Pradetto said he would
second the motion. Commissioner Pradetto asked to what date to continue this item.
Mr. Melloni replied August 4, 2020.
By Minute Motion, Commissioner DeLuna moved to continue Case No. CUP 19-0002 to
Tuesday, August 4, 2020. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Pradetto and carried
by a 5-0 vote (AYES: DeLuna, Greenwood, Gregory, Holt, and Pradetto; NOES: None).
XI. MISCELLANEOUS
None
XII. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES
Chair Holt commented that there is an Art in Public Places meeting scheduled for July 8, 2020.
B. PARKS & RECREATION
None
XIII. REPORTS AND REMARKS
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Vice -Chair Greenwood asked if there would be Planning Commission type conferences or
meetings available to the Commission. He understood there might not be any due to COVID-
19.
Mr. Stendell replied yes, noting that some organizations are doing online conferences. He
assumed conferences such as the annual League of California Cities are going to be digital,
and some organizations might offer them free.
Vice -Chair Greenwood remarked that it is a good opportunity and positive if it is digital and
everyone could attend.
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XIV. ADJOURNMENT
With the Planning Commission concurrence, Chair Holt adjourned the meeting at 7:14 p.m.
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ATTEST:
RYAN STENDELL, SECRETARY
MONICA O'REILLY, RECORD SECRETARY
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