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Home My WebLink AboutZOA SIGN ORDINANCE CORRESPONDENCE 1976 U l p—v - - 17t�� l�JO •_ . I✓ � L' E1id Keej,iny- the Deseri a Better Place in 1411tich to Live POST OFFICE' 13OX 26,18, PALM SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA 92262 OFFICERS HERBERT E.TOOR Chairman ,-' tTl'11 rr- -� 1976 ROBERT E.JOHNSON �'�-'�"""' '- •-T' President CHAD CALHOUN AU G 2 1976 Executive vice-President Mayor Noel Brush RICHARD HOGAN City of Palm Desert , �i'( lii',LL Vice-President P.O. BOX 1648 JOHN NELSON Palm Desert, .Ca 92260 - Vice-President . LILY W.GRAVES Secretary Dear Noel. DOUGLAS R-WIN-SLOW Treasurer Recently I sent you and the other members of the Council DIRECTORS a letter endorsing the proposed signing ordinance as a LEO ATHANS citizen of Palm Desert. CHAD CAL.HOUN LILY W.GRAVES Since then, as president of Desert Peoples United , I MAURICE HARRIS have canvassed the Board of Directors and have unanimous RICHARD J. HOGAN agreement that our association wishes to go On record ROBERT E.JOHNSON with the City of Palm Desert, strongly in favor of the DUNELUM NELSONON MILLS ordinance on which you will take action later. Many of ARTHUR H. MOTLEY the members of Desert Peoples United are residents of JOHN W. NELSON Palm Desert, including one of our Board members, Nelson WILLIAM O'BYRNE Bills. ARCHIE H. SIEGEL EDITH SPITZER As you know, our interests center on the proposition HERBERT E. TOOR that the desert should be kept as a good place in which DOUGLAS R.WINSLOW to live and we all feel that appropriate signing T. MORGAN WILLIANIS Control contributes to that result. With best wishes. Sincerely, kber - E. Jolimsou REJ/mj cc: James McPherson Mrs. A. Newbrander William R. Seidler Edward D. Mullins Herbert Toor Chad Calhoun Richard Hogan Arthur Motley Nelson Mills RE C E I V E JUL 2 7 1978 PALM DESERT CITY HALL July 25, 1978 CITY CLERK'S OFFICE To: Mayor Mullins and Members of the City Council: We would like to add our thoughts and comments to the efforts of the City to enforce sign .Limitations. tab have been coming to Palm Desert for vacations for 18 years. It was so unlike the metropolitan areas of much of Orange County where we lived. . We were attracted to Palm Desert by the beauty of the downtown and surrounding areas. For over a year we have been permanent residents of the city . There was a period, however, in the late 60's when it .Looked as if PD was going the way of countless other small, but rapidly growing cities. Suddenly, or so it seemed to us, along Highway III and adjacent areas a hodge-podge of advertising signs was popping up Indeed, it looked for awhile as if PD was fast becoming another "honky-tonk" type town with a jumble of "big is better" signs everywhere. Then gradually we could see that the city was withstanding the pressures that come to all growing cities and was encouraging stores and businesses to landscape, beautify and to use imagination and creativity in their signs rather than just bigness and flashing lights to sell products and services. May we say "hang in there?" We both were involved in citizen in-put committees in writing several ordinances for the city of San Juan Capistrano. Happily, not one business in San Juan that opposed the sign ordinance, claiming that such an ordinance would "Take�_'way the right for a man to make a living'y' .Lost his .living because of the sign limitations imposed on him by the city of San Juan Capistrano. Most large chain-store-type businesses such as : Marie Calendar, MacDonalds, Kentucky Fried Chicken and most major gas stations, long ago learned that it was good business to design their signs to the setting a town was striving to convey. By conforming to a city's idea of beauty it always seemed to enhance their community relation- ship instead of diminishing their business in anyway. Recently we returned to the desert from a three week vacation and saw the SOB signs spread out from Cathedral to Palm Desert (signs which we first interpreted as "Save Our Billboards") . These -more- -2- siens seem so unnecessary because nothing advertises better than quality products, good service and a pleasant person with whom to do business. i Unlike most cities that have just grown Like "Topsy", Palm Desert stiLL has a chance to benefit by making the city a unique place in which to shop and to do business. Sincerely, I' �,L �., fir✓(-w,.�-�� ✓�ni✓ Len and Minnie Surles 73-288 Don Budge Lane Palm Desert, Ca. L ` ) ? 7 � j i SIGN USERS COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA ,7 311 NORTH NORMANDIE AVENUE LOS ANGELES, CALIFOR141A 90004 PHONE (213) 665-5187 The Sign Users Council of California representing the user of the "On Premise Electric Sign" recognizes the possibility that visual pollution might be created by the uncontrolled use of signs. Be- cause of this possibility, the Council is presently working with representatives of the business and environmental community to develop the following sign code regulations that can enhance environ- mental needs and still assure business growth in your city. The Sign Users Council of California therefore proposes the follow- ing guidelines for your Community, as an effort to assist in the development of a workable and realistic sign ordinance, an ordinance that businessmen will agree to comply with and assist the community in enforcing, SERVING THE COMMUNITY SIGN USERS COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA Regulations - Definitions Guidelines SECTION I DEFINITIONS Animated Sign sign with action or motion, flashing, color changes requiring electrical energy, electronic or manufactured sources of supply, but not including wind actuated elements such as flags, banners, or specialty items. This definition does not include public service signs such as time and temperature units. Architectural Projection Shall mean any projection which is not intended for occupancy and which extends beyond the face of an exterior wall of a building, but shall not include signs. Building Facade I'liat portion of any exterior elevation of a building extending from grade to the top of the parapet wall or eaves and the entire width of the building elevation. Building Facade Facing resur acing o an existing facade with approved material illuminated or non- illuminated. Background Area of Sign e en ie r ac ground area of a sign upon which copy could be placed. In com- puting area of sign background, only that face or faces which can be seen from any one direction at one time shall be counted. Changeable Copy Sign sign w is is characterized by changeable copy, regardless of method of attachment. Copy Area of Sign e actua area of the sign copy applied to any background. In computing copy area, straight lines drawn closest to copy extremities encompassing individual letters or words shall be used. Directional Signs n premise incidental signs designed to guide or direct pedestrian or vehicular traffic. Free Standing Sign sign wfiieyis supported by one or more columns, uprights or braces in or upon the ground. Sign Ordinance Recommendations from Sign Users Council of California - 1 - Illuminated Sign sign ign in which a source of light is used in order to make readable the message. This definition shall include internally and externally lighted signs and reflectorized, glowing, or radiating signs. Marquee -`-`Marquee is a permanent roofed structure attached to, and supported by the building and projecting over public property. Marquee Sign — Any sign attached to or constructed in a marquee. Multiple Copy Sign sign which advertises other than the name of the business and the princi- pal product or service. On Premise Sign sign which carries only advertisements strictly incidental to a lawful use of the premises on which it is located, including signs or sign devices indicating the business transacted at, services rendered, goods sold or produced on the premises, name of the business, name of the person, firm or corporation occupy- ing the premises. Projecting Double-Faced Building Sign ou ataced sign w is projects more than IV over public property, and which uses a building wall as its main source of support. Revolving Sign sign which revolves 3600 but does not exceed 8 rpm. Roof Sign Ass'ign erected upon or above a roof or parapet wall of a building and which is wholly or partially supported by said building. Sign Any sign or device and all parts thereof which are used to advertise products, goods, services or otherwise promote the sale of objects or identify objects for sale. Sign Structure ny structure which supports or is capable of supporting any sign as defined in this code. A sign structure may be a single pole or may or may not be an inte- gral part of the building. Temporary Sign sign -w ich is intended to advertise community or civic projects, construction projects, real estate for sale or lease, or other special events on a temporary basis. Under Marquee Sign lighted or un ighted display attached to the underside of a marquee protruding over public or private sidewalks or right-of-way. t Ordinance Recommen a io s Siin d t' n from Sign Users Council of California _ 2 _ Public Service 3 i SignR—fin e ectr! ly controlled message center containing public service messages, i. e. : Time and Temperature, etc. Uniform Building Code 1 e current edition of the Uniform Building Code as has been officially adopted by the municipality and becomes related to these guidelines as regard- ing construction standards, approved materials, and projection standards unless otherwise specified herein. Uniform Sign Code e current edition of the Uniform Sign Code as published by the International Council of Building Officials. Wall Siggnn A sign which is in any manner affixed to any exterior wall of a building or structure and which projects not more than 18" from the building or structure wall and which does not extend more than 6' above the parapet, eaves or building facade of the building on which it is located. Zoning or Land Use mean t eland use district established by the authorized legislative body. SECTION II GENERAL PROVISIONS 1. No animated signs shall be erected or maintained in any residential land use district. 2. No animated signs shall be erected or maintained closer than 75' from any residential land use district on which there exist structures used for residential purposes. 3. Marquee signs may be placed on, attached to, or constructed in a marquee. For purposes of determining height, projection and clearance, tables as specified in the Uniform Building Code for marquees shall govern. 4. Copy area of a building facade facing shall not exceed 40 percent of the background facing to which it is applied. 5. Background area of wall signs shall not exceed 30 percent of the building facade or 4 square feet per lineal foot of the elevation upon which they are placed, whichever is greater. Sign Ordinance Recommendations from Sign Users Council of California - 3 - 6, a. Copy area of multiple copy signs not to exceed 40% of background to which applied. (Multiple copy sign is one which advertises other than the name of the business and the principal product or service. ) b. Principal identification sign is a sign which identifies only the name of the business and the principal product or service. These signs are not subject to any limitation of copy area to background. SECTION III SPECIAL PROVISIONS 1. Height Regulations Limited Commercial Zones In no case shall the height of a free-standing sign as otherwise permitted by this section exceed the distance in feet and inches measured from the center line of the street fronting upon its location, to the column or columns nearest the street front. Said height shall be measured vertically from the average grade at the base of the sign column or columns to the uppermost point of the said sign, but in no case will this height exceed 40' to the top of the sign. NOTE: Superficial. ornamentation, trim, column or column covers or symbol type appendages of non-message bearing character shall not be included in determining height. Roof signs shall in no case exceed a height above the roof equal to a dis- tance of the height of the elevation of the building upon which sign is lo- cated. The height above the roof may be equal to the height from grade to the top of a parapet wall, ridge line of the highest point of a roof, but in no case will the height of the sign exceed Z01 from this point to the top of the sign. NOTE: Superficial ornamentation, trim, column or column covers or symbol type appendages of non-message bearing character shall not be included in determining height. General Commercial and Planned Shopping Center Zones In no case shall the height of a free-standing sign as otherwise permitted by this section, exceed a height equal to one and one-half (1 1/2) feet for each foot of setback, said measurements shall be computed from the center line of the street upon which the sign is located and measured to the column or columns nearest the street front. The height shall be measured verti- cally from the average grade nearest the supporting columns to the highest point of said sign, but in no case will this height exceed 50' to the top of the sign. Sign Ordinance Recommendations from Sign Users Council of California 4 - NOTE: Superficial ornamentation, trim, column or column covers or symbol type appendages of a non-message bearing character 'shall not be included in determining height. Roof signs shall in no case exceed a height above the roof equal to a distance of the height of the elevation of the building upon which such sign is located. The height above the roof may be equal to the height from grade to the top of a parapet wall, ridge line or the highest point of a roof, but in no case will this height exceed 30' from this point to the top of the sign. NOTE: Superficial ornamentation, trim, column or column covers or symbol type appendages of non-message bearing character shall not be included in determining height. Industrial Zones In no case shall the height of a free-standing sign as otherwise per- mitted by this section, exceed a height equal to one and one-half (1 1/2) feet for each foot of setback, said measurements shall be computed from the center line of the street upon which the sign is located and measured to the column or columns nearest the street front. The height shall be measured vertically from the average grade nearest the support- ing column (s) to the highest point of said sign, but in no case will this height exceed 70' to the top of the sign. NOTE: Superficial ornamentation, trim, column or column covers or symbol type appendages of a non-message bearing character shall not be included in determining height. Roof signs shall in no case exceed a height above the roof equal to a dis- tance of the height of the elevation of the building upon which such sign is located. The height above the roof may be equal to the height from grade to the top of a parapet wall, ridge line or the highest point of a roof, but in no case will this height exceed 30' from this point to the top of the sign. NOTE: Superficial ornamentation, trim, column or column covers or symbol type appendages of non-message bearing character shall not be included in determining height. Freeway Signs Signs intended to be viewed from a freeway and which identify freeway oriented businesses (i. e. Service Stations, Restaurants, Hotels) shall have the height computed from a base point equal to the level of the closest main traveled freeway roadbed. Ratio and maximum height shall be determined by zone. 2. Animated Signs Animated signs as defined will be allowed only as follows: (a) Commercial and industrial zones. (b) Must be at least 75' from any resi dential zone. Sign Ordinance Recommendations from Sign Users Council of California - 5 - (c) Ivtay not be erected in any location which would obstruct the vision of or be confused with atraffic signal or. stop sign. 3. Computing Background Area of Sign In computing background area in square feet, standard mathematical formulas for known or common shapes will be used. In the case of irregular shapes, straight lines drawn closest to the extremities of the shape will be used. On signs with more than one face or faces visible from any one direction at one time will be counted. 4. Computing Copy Area In computing copy area, straight lines drawn closest to copy extremities encompassing individual letters or words shall be used. 5. Revolving Signs No sign may revolve more than 8 rpm. 6. Projecting Signs Free- standing signs and roof signs may project over the property lines as outlined in the Uniform Sign Code. Other types of signs may project only as set forth herein. 7. Signs Restricted - Requiring Special Use Permits Portable signs, folding signs and similar movable signs shall not be permitted unless such signs are first approved by the proper authority. The same shall apply to flags, banners and streamers or special feature items. Exception: In case of special feature window signs, in no case shall more than twenty (20) percent of a window of a commercial business be used for the display of temporary window feature signs. 8. Non-conforming Clause Abatement provisions for signs not conforming to specifications in these recommended guidelines may be incorporated in new or amended sign ordinances providing for complete removal or rehabilitation of the sign to conformity within ten (10) years after enactment date of any such ordinance, new or amended. 9. Roof Sign Supports The supporting members of a roof sign shall appear to be free of any extra bracing, angle iron, guy wires, cables, etc. The supports shall appear to be an architectural and integral part of the building. Supporting columns of round, square or shaped steel members may be erected if required bracing, visible to the public, is minimized or covered. Sign Ordinance Recommendations from Sign Users Council of California - 6 - 10. Quality and Maintenance of On. Premise Signs Only materials as permitted by the Uniform Sign Code governing structur- al requirements shall be used in the manufacture and erection of on premise signs. All electrically energized signs shall bear the seal of approv�Toxxaan approved testing laboratory. Every sign as permitted by this section shall be kept in good condition as to maintenance and repair. SECTION IV SIGN USES FOR SPECIFIED ZONES Single and Limited Multiple Family Residential Zones 1. Temporary Sign - One sign unlighted, not exceeding 12 square feet in area nor 61 in overa 1 height and advertising only the following: (a) Property for sale or lease and pertinent information regarding sale or lease. (b) Construction information, providing this sign is removed prior to final building inspection. 2. Signs Required by Law - Shall include legal notices or advertisement prescribed y aw or posted by any lawful officer or agent. Multiple Family Units and Apartment Complex Development Zones 1. Temporary Sign - Same as residential zones. 2. Signs Required by Law - Shall include legal notices or advertisement prescribedyFiTw or posted by any lawful officer or agent. 3. Free-Standing Sign or Wall Sion - Lighted or Unlighted - total aggregate square ootage o sign accgroun o all signs may not exceed 40 square feet for each principal building. Signs may advertise only the name and address of the building it identifies and the name, address and services offered by professions allowed in this land use district. Residential Professional Services Zones 1. Temporary Sign- Same as residential zones. 2. Signs Required by Law - Shall include legal notices or advertisement prescribed y aw or posted by any lawful officer or agent. Sign Ordinance Recommendations from.Sign Users Council of California - 7 - 1 3. Free-Standing Sign or Wall Sign - Lighted or Unlighted - total aggregate square footage of sign oac cgroun of a17�tgn.s may not exceed 40 square feet for each principal building. Signs may advertise only the name and address of the building it identifies and the anme, address and services offered by professions allowed in this land use district. Limited Commercial Zones Special commercial zone allowing service type stores in residential neighbor- ri 3 zones. 1. Temporary Sign - For each frontage on street, one sign not exceeding square teeMn background area, nor over 15 feet in overall height. 2. Signs Required by Law - Shall include legal notices or advertisement prescribed y aw or posted by any lawful officer or agent. 3. Free-Standing Sign - One sign for each business located on the property with ac groun area of sign not exceeding 3 square feet per lineal foot of property frontage which the business occupies. (Second street frontage to be allowed equal sign area. ) 4. Wall Si n - One sign for each business located on the property, with ac ground area of sign not to exceed 30 percent of the building facade to which it is applied, or 3 square feet per lineal foot of business frontage, whichever is greater. (a) Where a business has a main entrance on more than one elevation of the building such secondary frontage may contain a wall sign of the same limitations as prescribed for the primary frontage. (b) Where a business has a secondary frontage, but does not have a main entrance to the secondary frontage, such frontage may con- tain a wall sign not to exceed 20 percent of the surface of the build- ing facade to which it is applied, or 2 square feet per lineal foot of business frontage, whichever is greater. 5. Buildinp� Facade Facing - Copy area shall not exceed 40 percent of the iuTding facade-facing to which it is applied, G. Under Marquee Sign - One for each business entrance located on the property. , 7. Directional Signs - As needed to guide or direct pedestrian or vehicular t r aTric. General Commercial and Planned Shopping Center Zones l• Temporary Sign - For each frontage on street or highway, one sign, not exc`ee inng-M square feet in background area, not over 15' in over- all height and advertising only the following: Sign Ordinance Recommendations from Sign Users Council of California _ 8 _ (a) Property for sale or ]ease and information pertinent thereto. (b) Construction information providing this sign is removed prior to final building inspection. 2. Signs Required by Law - Shall include legal notices or advertisement prescribed y law or posted by any lawful officer or agent. 3. Free-Standing Signs and Roof Signs - Each business will be allowed Tree standing signs and�rootigns if such signs are designed to be viewed from different directions. Total background area of each sign not to exceed 4 square feet per lineal foot of property frontage which this business occupies* or a maximum of 400 square feet whether on individual sign or on sign identifying more than one business concern. 4. _Wall Sign - Sign background area for .each business located on the prop- erty witIi area of signs not to exceed 30 percent of the building facade to which it is applied, or 4 square feet per lineal foot of building elevation, whichever is greater. 5. Building Facade Facing Copy area shall not exceed 40 percent of the Building facade Facade, ing to which it is applied. 6. Projecting Double-Faced Building Sign - Projecting double-faced build- ing signs will e permitted when in conformity with local zoning usage. 7. Animated Sins - Signs may be animated if they conform to the standards as set fin—i�pecial Provisions Section. 8. Revolving Signs - Revolving signs may not exceed 8 rpm. 9. Architectural Projection - Architectural projections allowed if in accord- ance with a ini ion. ection 1. 10. Under Marquee Signs - One for each business entrance located on the property. 11. Directional Signs - Designed to guide or direct pedestrian or vehicular traffic. *Where a business has a main entrance on more than one elevation of the build- ing, such secondary frontage may contain wall signs and/or free-standing sign or roof sign of the same limitations as prescribed for the primary frontage. Where a business has secondary frontage but does not have a main entrance to secondary frontage, such frontage may contain a free-standing sign or roof sign if designed to be viewed from another direction, with background area of sign or signs attached to structure not to exceed 2 square feet per lineal foot of secondary frontage it serves, and/or wall signs not exceeding 20 percent of the building facade to which it is applied or 2 square feet per lineal foot of building elevation, whichever is greater. Sign Ordinance Recommendations from Sin Users Council of California - 9 - Industrial Zones 1. Temporary Signs - One sign for each frontage on street or highway, not excee ing 200 square feet in background area, nor over 20' in overall height and advertising only the following: (a) Property for sale or lease and pertinent information thereto. (b) Construction information providing this sign is removed prior to final building inspection. 2. Signs Required by Law - Shall include legal notices or advertisement prescribed y law or posted by any lawful officer or agent. 3. Free-Standing Sign - One sign for each business located on the property with ac groun area of sign or signs attached to structure not to exceed 4 square feet per lineal foot of property frontage which this business occupies. * Maximum area of sign per business shall not exceed 600 square feet whether on individual free-standing sign or on a free-stand- ing sign identifying more than one business concern. 4. Wall Sign - One sign for each business located on the property with back- grou�nc area or sign not to exceed 30 percent of the building facade to which it is applied, or 4 square feet per lineal foot of building elevation, whichever is greater. 5. Building Facade Facing - Copy area shall not exceed 40 percent of the building tacade lacing to which it is applied. 6. Roof Sign - Signs for each business located on the property with background areaoTsign or signs attached to structure not to exceed 4 square feet per lineal foot of property frontage which this business occupies. * 7. Projecting Double Faced Building Sign - Projecting double-faced building signs will be permitted when in con ormity with local zoning usage. *Where a business has a main entrance on more than one elevation of the build- ing, such secondary frontage may contain wall signs and/or free-standing sign or roof sign of the same limitations as prescribed for the primary frontage. Where a business has secondary frontage but does not have a main entrance to secondary frontage, such frontage may contain a free-standing sign or roof sign if designed to be viewed .from another direction, with background area of sign or signs attached to structure not to exceed 2 square feet per lineal foot of secondary frontage it serves, and/or wall signs not exceeding 20 percent of the building facade to which it is applied or 2 square feet per lineal foot of building elevation, whichever is greater. Sion Ordinance Recommendations from Sign Users Council of California - 10 - 8. Animated Signs - Free-standing signs, roof signs, or projecting signs may be animated if they conform to the standards as set forth in Special Provisions Section. 9. Revolving Signs - Revolving signs may not exceed 8 rpm. 10. Under Marquee Signs - One for each business entrance located on the property. 11. Directional Signs - Designed to guide or direct pedestrian or vehicular tra ic. 12. Architectural Projection - Architectural projections allowed if in accord- ance with e inition, Section 1. Sign Ordinance Recommendations from Sign Users Council of California - 11 - (-WALL SIGN (FASCIA SIGN :] BUILDING I RJ -,-'�- L I N E 0 C T PI STANDIING I G R SIGN I S �- `SIG1 J G i FACADE SIGN I � . . I -ter .-- ----�---_-__- - --- - MARQUEE SIGN .. -- - - UNDER � - _ CANOPY) -' SIGN EXAMPLES AMENDED IN SENATE MAY 22, 1975 AMENDED IN SENATE MARCH.31, 1975 AMENDED IN SENATE JANUARY 27, 1975 -- -- SENATE BILL No. 59 Introduced by Senator Moscone December 4, 1974 An act to add Section 20880.1 to the Business and Professions Code, relating to price sign advertising. . LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST SB 59, as amended, Moscone. Price sign advertising. There is presently no provision of law which requires a gasoline service station or other facility to post the price per gallon of motor vehicle fuels offered for sale. This bill would require,except as ether otherwise provided by local ordinance, every gasoline station to post the lowest price per gallon at which ea-eh grade e€meter- Yehiele feel is regular,premium and unleaded gasoline are currently being offered for sale on advertising media clearly visible from the closest adjacent thoroughfare a$ tra f-1e la tes e€ ad}aeeet ^4 s billwou highways .require, except as otherwise provided by local ordinance,every facility which dispenses motor vehi- cle fuels to the public as an incidental part of its operation to post the price per gallon at which each grade of motor vehicle fuel is currently being offered for sale on advertising media clearly visible to any motorist upon entry to such facility. This bill also specifies that nothing therein is to be con- strued to limit, restrict, or invalidate the authority of local governments to control and regulate land use, including the authority to enact and enforce local provisions for the control y and regulation of signs otherwise regulated herein. 2 59 16 40 SB59 —2— This bill provides that neither appropriation is made nor obligation created for the reimbursement of any local agency for any costs that may be incurred by it in carrying on the { a program required by this act. Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: no. j State-mandated local program: no state funding. The people of the State of California do enact as follows: 1 SECTION 1. Section 20880.1 is added to the Business 2 and Professions Code, to read: 3 20880.1. (a) Except as otherwise provided by local 4 ordinance, every person, firm, partnership, association, 5 trustee, or corporation which owns, manages, leases or 6 rents and which operates a gasoline service station 7 offering for sale, selling or otherwise dispensing gasoline 8 or other motor vehicle fuel to the public from such a 9 facility abutting or adjacent to a street or highway shall 10 post or cause to be posted or displayed and maintain at 11 such premises at least one sign, banner or other 12 advertising medium which is clearly visible from all 13 traffie lanes in eseh direetien en saeh sheet er highwety. 14 the closest adjacent thoroughfare. 15 Each sign,banner or other advertising medium shall be 16 readable from such tr-affFe lanes thoroughfare and shall 17 indicate thereon the actual lowest price per gallon, 18 including all taxes, at which eaek gfa& of regular, 19 premium and unleaded gasoline e- ether meter vehicle 20 feel is are currently being offered for sale, sold or 21 otherwise dispensed, if at all, at such facility. Any special 22 conditions required For sale at such to west price shall also 23 be indicated on the required sign or signs. 24 (b) Except as otherwise provided by local ordinance, 25 every person, firm, partnership, .association, trustee or 26 corporation which owns, manages, leases or rents and 27 which operates a facility other than a gasoline service 28 station which, as an incidental part of its operation, offers 29 for sale, sells or otherwise dispenses gasoline or other %( 30 motor vehicle fuel to the public from such a facility shall 31 post or cause to be posted or displayed and maintain at t 2 59 25 42 -3 — SB59 - 1 such premises at least one sign, banner or other 2 advertising medium which is clearly visible to any 3 motorist upon entry to such facility. 4 Each sign,banner or other advertising medium shall be 5 readable upon entry to the facility and shall indicate 6 thereon the actual price per gallon, including all taxes, at 7 which each grade of gasoline or other motor vehicle fuel 8 is currently being offered for sale, sold or otherwise 9 dispensed, if at all, at such facility. 10 (c) No person, firm, partnership, association, trustee, 11 or corporation which owns, operates, manages, leases or 12 rents a gasoline service station or other facility offering 13 for sale, selling or otherwise dispensing gasoline or other 14 motor vehicle fuel to the public shall advertise, either in 15 connection with any signs, banners or other advertising 16 medium utilized to satisfy the requirements of this 17 section or otherwise, the price of any grade of gasoline or 18 other motor vehicle fuel which is not immediately 19 available to be sold or dispensed to the public at such 20 premises. 21 SEC. 2. Nothing herein shall be,construed to limit, 22 .restrict, or invalidate the.authority of cities and counties 23 to control and regulate the use of land within their 24 jurisdictions, including but not limited to the authority to 25 enact and enforce local provisions for the control dnd 26 regulation of signs otherwise regulated by Section 27 20880.1. 28 SEC. 3. No appropriation is made by this act, nor is 29 any obligation created thereby under Section 2231 of the 30 Revenue and Taxation Code, for the reimbursement of 31 any local agency or school district for any costs that may 32 be incurred by it in carrying on any program or 33.* performing any service required to be carried on or ;t� 34 performed by it by this act. r O } 2 59 35 44 CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH " CALIFORNIA 9166o �CIFOIL city Hall 3300 Newport Blvd. (714)673010 640-2218 September 11 , 1975 RECEIVED Mr. Sam Freed Department of Environmental Services SE P 151975 P . O . Box 1648 Palm Desert , CA 92260 EWAR0k*Ya4 a Si ACES CITY OF PALM OE5ER7 Dear Sam: Attached is a copy of the proposed sign provisions adopted by the Planning Commission and tabled by the City Council . The Planning Commission went th.ru several months of public hearings on the subject , made substantial compromises from th.e original drafts , and finally approved this version . On the subject of real estate signs , I have attached A . B . 604 which limits the control of local agencies over th.e display of real estate signs . I wish you luck with your new sign ordinance , and would appreciate a copy when it is completed . If I can be of any further help , give me a call at (714) 640-2218. Very truly yours , DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT R . V . HOGAN , DIRECTOR By_d'� Robert P . Lenar Associate Planner RPL/dlt DATE To i1. rr. it rar,y com,(,rn -p er a oN0`N h t Propo -; d Oi.Ly Si:jn Ordinance 1 4- 73m SAN NICHOLAS; PALM DESERT. CA. M _ . s � a93P9E80 nC).oCd;Cl z-:rti.Clc-by-article nCtatioris . Overall Conl,ment: Ago:.-d , enforccab.1c, c:rdirance . Iii)SJCVC:C, '<1 C:?L Ul C;3:ading shcnvo Son-o. pocr ro scal'ch ar'=1 _, ..nl-,-'. iRi.;i.).C:rii blB iY;i4ti9!Ce' i.^ , i s .iu .:,,.: �5' 1 25. �i � 7. 0- l`,'CL tC. v11tiC'n h"' i "T,I. '.. .. i. ii. 'i :.0 i� i-:. ..i Cn tuo li::i: ri:dd ll'rCJ .. uGh Sl( :i 3iii1)l be rcmc'Ved al t.ho CRd of two years . . . whcP. the aCtiCle ClU l,l'ly .3 r' , 1='Ct I:aitll/'j i C ..^ :C aw-dy such tilgna. lV.y unfaverabl(.- c-)mrrient is: Sounds hire a vJndatia betwar,en SClo,:,l1bonk Tanta F.y/'thy Tory anc, the hard feat that individuals go into business to make money and they move to this area C�J just that for wricus reasans . I alit ianla,ied that my tax C101 wCS re boing s on ' Orbi. I 'd �� t ea1 t&�-ti.y U1R.>G; Siar } . I have offered, uP\UCal ti11C S, aCCV4s to my ilSs'and .GU ^w-ai . ^le• 'al C'!''.;)CI OCCli:lances R2Ve bu'en drawn and arc availabhC for a mute f--w hundrad dollar;---obvi�.-Ung ncicCilclss Y.'a Sire of time by aides , ar sintant , clerk2 , typi.:its , etc. S,u. ) 3rlluou:i cot,'ment: Fur a city that is lr r!.ng t:, abate visui2l p:!i.U'b-n it -1,noor, rGU-- .:t FV;iL'.)U '�:C t1L1ll)�''?ate .a!Ch c CC(ii':l.i:: :'v'E:rUI'a:,n C t .' ! T";, i- = . oV8Y f'tr iic i::rz;pose-' ..1 . ':1?G itCleS IT-:iCA t0 is?O'iJ ihat it LC att;aC:hed t,) the body That 7.sc has. a right Halal Sincer:::ly _submrtt�^d, bl`rn. aeC, have , Cwner of R lV"S Posiylls nti votsr. .DATE 24 Amy; 1976 TO �: e k nta,. Svcs . a f Kt C1.Cy of Palm l-)r-:scat M 73026 SAN NICHOLAS, PALM DESERT. CA, 2b , 33--2. 01 The I.,rime,ly purpose: of a sign is t0 CL%i'v''ly: U1.1`i1 'lr". . . . nOt Cf' BuTlly dt'Ca CL! I A sign may be attractive without bE?&4 an anraciion 25 . 38 -2. 12 1 Impiorc v0u to alit coin now words ;hallow lighted in anghiM, is cor=aWc"cry! An indirectly lighted object is one that hits no VI i}.11r: SC,urcc -, li.';' . 'u ,I to obiCot rli(aV be lit from within or vAthou't but the . :'ur C, . I %N '� Violi'.r1p. ` 11 ' s t a. (. , ;;% sar from thu- sign in.iu, ry. ur�ac.:„ th t )'ctA y:.t a � n_ ,, �n i .;r 25. 38-2, L3 . ',i.;' is restrictive. ThraQ sq , ft, ❑tax. iilii..4':: , deF:;];]djrg onr. „r• G 6' or 18 x 21 . The object of an ,rdir:ancc: is to describe 11mi.ta riot nca s ,arQ to impose restrictions . 25. 38-2, 17 Ficase change to abovd roof line or parapet 23. 38-2. 20 Top of ea4-c or bmcm of eav_:? Isn't parap::?: better? 1 :kp `� 's � S . „e ? trade e dc- is C+ft ri net G5. 3ii-2. 2 1. lit / windows a might: l:<, •c:paratn� aii C, i.k: :he c' 2 to "VJ ili hi' C-' �-' :nrsid:;red to bo a part of the "face' cf the bd1ding. . .dermnli.ng on circumst.^nss . 25. 38-2. 23 GO sq . ft. per Vi--vv? Uo s this include StdVing and other doc i:fon? Hero zi J i'Z. is C<:atle of works I would!1' open unless_ss I � "arc. 1 t j enforce � Ev ' 'i s't i Vr Gf... :J ri:'.t 'C ( t_li; is.o LT cia Cif] . . Gvey1:01.L'_d and Molyfi,.'W or :And Ec;inlo coil^ to in i.i::"1, I dy Clkin,ts just t to gat what thay Want on their vehicles. The; questicm is enfnrC@inF::'C 25. 38- 3. 01 2•;uch of this is re6undant and the burden that yc,L1 put on the r.illn shf.;., z,pzears zo be an indiumt: rastrk.c_ion of trade! Since you elready have plans on file , clients reason why do they have to pay for additional plans? I would 'kka to suggest tkn differentiation between "new" and"existing . Our tares have already paid fc,r your photographic files and my clients and. I resist forking out additional monies for services already paid fort more--mere.---rnore,-- DATE " 1 p. d_.- i -70TO p(4 , {s e 1 2 r C 3 �e p } 73026 SAN NICHOLP-S PALM DESERT. CA. 25. 38-3. 03 Stat!c;m;tlts Cannot &how,I Picturss shr.)W ! lv.Untcipa..lc•Ze oft('n f(v( ,t3 thn,c the languaga 'vrc commU^.fcdtC -vl'itil in thi s Countq) is still 0111ilidh l 25. 38-11. 01 Identification Sign ',vas aot Indcluded in t11 ).is't cl de.;in1 iun.s;. 1'rhat i ; thr-, batleveen a name Plate and an I.li . sin:g ' '::'rriaa. ha,,:,.,ns ,.ix:n th,� C;7:•l„r ar`d the CCCUVal?t ara diife cat and both ar8 r,2:(;e5lary ("Li Fiil 25, 33-4. 03 Fnibl':!ms or Plats? w'hrat is a "Flat" ? Is Y[k:Y it ,.L?gG'iV}le 25. 38 Ycu did not nroviCe a Cary ( f SeCtion 24 . Il w� s p , G Vc!r, L.Ill.'.5 cUc: i�C::`C:.:,;. is somo%rhere (i 'fir.cd , a theft may have b�•eZ o vc.!ral :.'' H?y Cr.1C.., .: l?aV. asked me to repaint "stolen" signs. Ignorance of Cont;tltitional rig!}t^a igncrance of the la-,4'. Prcp' r appsal cnannels must be inclucle(i to VCG`_ numici,lal aLu3ci as well as go"%!rnn?ent. 25.36-13 . 02 Iralal-cs ponalty by birtnrigh'(: "Smith" is OK "Cyn';balb 'tt(nn-Gr:,rd" is a No-Nc. `(ival Rights would lie to al_lo,7 (i.e.) �i sq. inches per lo' er r.n a ii-nic }71.a'te i'+lhy should Rd:`✓ :"b<; ah.c"tveri lamer letters in one sq. it. and .1'il:PFf'I !.:L , .`.cra:u to uac sma"lla:r lencrs f'cr thE, sar,1(! aurpu::e? '25. 3E i ..1.•1 .C.'. :iY i:; `:aulty 1oy11c, to crciuda "1\•;.otel" , . it i:; li}:e ..aYi._ic all Cinu'ruaist[ cat th.;r,rorl: -all thr)se that eat are col-nmunistSl N4ctel is all acC2 Pted A.rn.+rican abbreviation fir u h%JTOR Ii0'P:oL. It h�otei is not allocced than ltictor Tain must also Inc di_-;)iowed If managernont fails to see tao Stigma surro Uriding thc- word. "llJ ctel'' I dc, ilot thir:; the City is in a position; to restrict samc1 more-"-more--more_ - ,DATE 19 E" 0 TO l�acr throe. �A- 6-!ZMZ73026 SAN NICHOLAS. PALM DESEPT. CA. 922SO 25. 38-14 . 04 1B. (b) & (c.,) i,lIc:vjrjng for an extnzrne o;,:amplel of rniFpIaC(.1T,.-nt --,,.rould it —AL. U�� acc-aptable to allow the namr� of IMe hot;?l in 3' (30 inch) D . chanm.c IT' x N" 1:-,-) 3 sq . It. [:!x the f�amje as 431 2 .1 ,31 1 1. 10 25' of a1c, ma In ent ILIE"ale nt I n GeFtr"in Ca "0" e mar of El Pasco on 11m) parking arl:ia or the C r of Hiqhvz�iy I Ll In the c.an)e If t"c ^condary lrCntrl Ctc Is strictly a service ontry (ulloy) 0-Ij t'L 111(;�r�� 25 ft. from tbn road, 25% in;.iv be adcc,-uate. 20.310-15 . 02 B. contradictory to ? 25. 33-1 S . 03 A. Eaveline, Top of Eave, Bottom of E&ve , 'I'arapot , llonf. . .vdhich is which ? 25. 3'-"-15 . 07 18x24 or three s(I . ft. ? 2; . 33--15 . 11 (1) 8 feet above the highest mad? ral hic r);,r- Ult L, 1111, .1 3 - 1-71 Ity is inherent in this article . An allowaricc should be mado, partk.,ul !y for fiiorivLgc roa I on the north s Ide of highway ?. I I 25. Doesthz? 3 sq.ft. exclude pho6graph,;?, 3 sq.ft, in a,29 lincF) fort %--rindcw j:; ri6.iculcus . . .0;;pC!c4ally if the tl�nan-, gooF 13" br,,htnd, - h:,, gla "S as .-;Cv(:-ra1 ro.�Jt:ns in Palm Springs a-,- currcntly doing, )2.no-hvr can of 2z',*. 33-16 . 02 (5) Visual p-d1ution vs. Visual Boredom. i'd hate to dc;v.,ngraAC Y,,-.ur B-".T Visual Boredom is mor dangerous than VISLIal Sh'.;Ck as proven by 3jmcral ri,-ccn-t Federal. ronotts on highway signage. 0-ne man's honey is anoth,--r's dovinfall One e,yp's "harmony" is anoth-3r's discord. Q-1Qt4er can of "v(';rMs! 25,.33-iG . 07 'x'Vhat is the candlepav�er on 3 sq.ft. of white panelling in direct sunl!c,' .t? What is the candlepower emitted with 3000 wats of light thrown indireclly ' Glare seems to be the concern. not size. Southern California Edison Company F Post Office Box 203 Palm Desert, California 92260 May 24, 1976 Mr. Paul Williams Director of Environmental Services E�V�R0 2 19jr City of Palm Desert C»Y Ffy�NrA( o 45-275 Prickl.ey Pear Lane j°AUy SF�VjC Palm Desert, California 92260 OfS�RrFs Dear Mr. Williams: The Southern California Edison Company appreciates the consideration given us to present our recommendations for changes and additions to the city sign ordinance. 25.38-11.02 Sins on Public Property or Right of Way Prohibited Change the first sentence to include public utility poles as follows: "Signs on the public property, right of way, or public utility poles shall be . . . article." General Provisions Add 25.38-16.15: "No sign or sign structure shall be erected in such a manner that any portion of its surface or supports shall be within six feet horizontally of, or twelve feet vertically of, overhead electric conductors which are energized in excess of 750 volts." Reason: These distances are a requirement of General Order 95 which is part of the Electrical Safety Orders of the Division of Industrial Relations, State of California. These Electrical Safety Orders set the standards of safety which are followed by the Edison Company. 25-38-17.06 Political Sign Regulations Change the first sentence to include the work "affixed to" 2 in relation to public utility poles as follows: "(5) Such signs shall not be nailed to trees, fence posts or affixed to public utility poles . . . right of way." In providing these recommendations it is Edison's intention to provide the city of Palm Desert with suitable legislation to protect our employees who climb poles, provide for the safety of others, and to maintain a clean environment. We ask that favorable consideration be given to these suggestions. Yours very truly, 4� " Kermit Martin City/Area Manager KOM:j F.w•-o � 1,�. DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROTECTION � _ tea, IIJ COOPERATION WITH THE .Lea ;F lI >v COUNTY CALIFORNIA DIVISION OF FORESTRY DA\ ID L. FLAKE r` :RfVF.RSIpL P.O. nox 24e COUNTY FIRE WARDEN 210 WEST SAN JACINTO STREET' S-- PERRIS, CALIFORNIA 92370 TELEPHONE (714) 657-3183 May 12, 1976 City of Palm Desert Department of Environmental Services P.O. Box 1977 Palm Desert, CA 92260 Reference: Proposed Sign Ordinance Gentlemen: We appreciate the opportunity to review the proposed Ordinance and E.I.R. Our only comment is directed at section 25.38-13, specifically subsection 13.02 -name plates. We. feel that all buildings with emphasis on single family dwellings should have a sign indicating street address. This sign should be readily visible, during day or night, to the operator of any emergency vehicle on the street. We frequently have problems locating addresses in an emergency situation, and signs of this nature would help alleviate the problem. If we can be of any further assistance please contact us. Very truly yours , DAVID L. FLAICE County Fire Warden D VID J. 0 EGEL Fire Protection Planning and Engineering Officer DJO:jl MAY 1 4197G ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES CITY OF PALM DESERT 37M CENTRAL AVENUE RIVERSIDE, CALIFOR141A cgs Nailing Address P. O. BOX 2200, RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA 92506 �NC�NpF May 21 , 1976 Department of Environmental Services City of Palm Desert P.O. Box 1977 Palm Desert, California 92260 We have reviewed the proposed sign ordinance of the City of Palm Desert and have the following comments and suggestions. In the daily performance of our work and that of other public utilities , it is necessary for us to temporarily install signs to control traffic within the vicinity of our work. In addition, to protect the public from hazard we install signs and markers to alert contractors excavating near our major facilities with instructions to call us before excavating. We would appreciate your revising Article 25.36-16.12 - Exception to Sign Limitations, to clearly exempt temporary traffic control signs used during construction and.maintenance of utility facilities" and Ilsubstructure location and identification signs and markers required to protect these facilities. " The terms and quotes are only suggested wording. Any other wording acceptable to the City would be satisfactory. If you have any questions or if we can be of further assistance, please call me in Riverside on (714) 7a1-6112. � A11A W Y Padon Technical Supervisor PW:js PALM DESERT PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION 73-833 EL PASFO PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA 92260 TuLupuo m .(714) 346-2804 A Non-Profit Corporation 22 July 1976 Honorable City Council City of Palm Desert , Calif. Gentlemen : The Board of Directors of the Palm Desert Property Owner' s Association which represents 1140 lots in the center of Palm Desert would like the City Council to know that it has this Association ' s full support on the new sign ordinance . We are convinced to the point of certainty that the adoption and enforcement of this sign ordinance is in the best interests of a very large majority of the citizens of Palm Desert and that there would be no question of its adoption if this ordin- ance was to be the subject of a public vote . It is the Board' s feeling that modification of the provisions of this ordinance to satisfy any pressure group would be a disservice to the general public which should have the benefits of a strong and well enforced . sign ordinance from the moment of adoption. Very truly yours , Georg A1. I9 nt rn President Page 1 Trio_ Retail Mercharl'" Di.vicion of the Palin pe;:ert Chcunber of Comncree i.:; newly reactivated, and has yet to meet. a2 full strength,. However, the following observations on the sign ord:i.nance are offered, based on continents made by members of the Division: Section 2.23 Vehicle identification (pg, 3) It is felt that the City has no valid reason to control. signs on vehicles. (a) This will dilute the advertising capabilities of the locgl. business- man man without controlling competitive businesses from out of the city. (b) City-based businesses will. not have compettttive advertising impact when their vehicles are operating in areas out of the City of Palm Descrt. (c) Those who violate the spirit of the ordinance §.y parking their vehicles with display material in front of their place of business on a continuing basis can be controlled by other means, e.g. section 11.02 of this ordinance which prohibits signs in the public right- of-way. ;ection 38.3 Sign Permit Procedure (Pg.3) It i:: suggested that the pros)gdures for obtaining sign permits regtjirc much more detail., more paper work, and a greater expense than is necessary. This is particularly true, since most signs will be covered by the $500.00 minimum valuation called for in the ordinance. (a) The $500.00 minimum which rel.agates any sign to the Design Review process is not realistic. Consideration should be given to raising this mi.nimwn requirement. (b) Consideration might also be given to the simplification of the Pg. 2 whole sign permit procedure, as some of the information may not be be needed for all signs being considered. (c) Application fees should not be considered as a source of income for the City, but as a fee for services rendered in processing the application. There should be no arbitrarily assigned costs added to the license fee if such costs will vary greatly from one app- lication to another. Section 3 (Pg. 3) The ordinance suggests that a permit e required for maintanance of signs. . A permit should be requi.reIF the maintenance results in alteration of the sign. Hot,*ever, maintenance, as such, means only that an existing sign be kept in working order or repair, and in no way im- plies that changes will be made. The word should be deleted from the section as being inappropriate and meaningless in the manner used. Section 11.08 (Pg. 6) Roof Signs Roof signs should not be arbitrarily prohibited. While the ordinance does permit certain exemptions, there is no specific mention of those structures where the area above the eaves may be the only space appro- priate for proper store identification. This situation will occur with many of the existing signs in the City, and should be explored in detail. Section 12 (Pg. 6) Permitted signs-purpose There is no argument with the purposes of the ordinance relating to "permitted signs" However, it is noted that the deviations from the specific standards allowed under the ordinance are entirely subjective. I rg. 3 For example, one of the goals is "compatible design, simplicity, and sign effectiveness" In other sections of the proposal, we find vague references to compatible.colors,. and. the desire to "preserve and enhance the visual nature of the City's streets and highways" Again, there is no criticism of the goal of the proposal, but only the agreement that there will be occasions where the sign owner and the City staff and/or the Design Review Board will not agree as to whether a given sign will "enhance the visual nature of the City"s streets" Therefore, we suggest that the Council incorporate into the ordinance a provision for a board of arbitration for such dusputes. This could be the same panel as proposed for the Ad Hoe sign amortization committee, or one similarly constituted. Section 14.05(Page 9) Free standing signs, as in the section relating to roof signs, should be given a more t4ough examination. The regulations will involve many signs now in existance, and the guidelines for their control should spelled out in some detail., as opposed to the proposal as it now stalids. Sections 15.06 and 15.07 (page 12) It was the opinion of all of the retail merchants consulted that there should be no regulation of price displays or promotional material shown behin& shop windows. (a) There is no standardization of such material, and it could constitute a burden to the businessman to conform to guidelines relating to the size of prices and letters. (b) the two sections would, in essence, prohibit the use of pricing and display material furnished to the local business by his suppliers. Often, Page 4 this is the only professionally prepared advertising material. ccvai"Lc3blr., (c) The ordinance would deny the local merchant the opportunity to tie- in his local promotion to -the National advertising for products which he carries. The use of pricing and promotional material supplied by the advertisers could not he used unless it conformed to the details of the ordinance. Section 15.08 (Page 12) Sale Signs Sale signs are essential to the success of many businesses where such things as changing styles, limited shelf-life, or Summer closing require a rapid turn-over or reduction in inventory. The ordinance is overly restrictive and should be reviewed, Section 16.06 (Page 15) Colors allowed A number of comments were to the effect that there should be no restric- tion as to the number of colors used. . Section 16.07 (page 16) Size reduction due to type of illumination There was unanimous and strong feeling against the restriction of sign size, based simply on the fact of its being illuminated internally rather than being externally lit, or unlit. If the "glare factor" is of prime consideration, this can be controlled by other means including the wattage of bulbs used or the type of fluorescent tube. Otherwise, the require- ment that internally lit signs be half the size of any other seems arbitrary. l Page 5 Section 18.04 Pa.ffe 19) Removal and Amortization Period There was comment that the amortization and removal periods, as set forth, are discriminatory. That is, the man with a, $500.00 sign may find it just as difficult financially to replace his sign as does the owner of a sign costing $5000.00 Yet the first man has only one year to replace his sign, and the other has five years. This continent has certain merit, and it might be reasonable to consider giving all sign owners an equal period of time to reach conformity, regardless of the initial cost of the sign. The following are general, and personal, comments about the proposed sign ordinance and its effects of the businesses of the City. (].) It should be recognized that each retail outlet has its own specific need for identification, and that this need will vary with the location of the business within the city. Some businesses need very little on-site identification. To others, store and product identification is essential to the life of the business. (2) Sales are a legitimate function of the business community, and are of direct benefit to the businessman, the local consumer, and to the City. (3) The businesses of Palm Desert are in direct competition with those in other cities in the Valley. To stay v4rile in a competitive situation, good store identification, product identity, and the ability to promote goods and services is an absolute necessity. (4) The thrust of the sign ordinance will weaken and dilute the ability of local business to stay competitive. There are compromises which must be made by businesses for the good of the community, and I do not find any opinions to the contrary. However, the present proposal will lead to conformity, uniformity, and sameness. I hope that the Council will take time to examine the true goals of the City in formulating this proposal, and will take a long look at the end results that may turn up if any area of the business community is too closely regulated. George D. Kryder, President Retail Merchants Division Chamber of Commerce Palm Desert r : r � I fIIA011 Eri\-TA !/>'I/'��`/'tip- mil' '/ •�/��(�7-r.G-�-h.-L'r.•c-E'�GZi� (RECEIVED P.J. CITYOUiICIL MEETING OF-JULY 22, 1976 j;' el , lr �/ e C/ v�'jj��'- y ! _' / •mac./��.. -l�jv t.'`'J . i�� +y ON-SITE ADVERTISING STRUCTURES AND SIGNS iCr i'tf:�3-•s"ttlnding f:i ;;,& (1) Local:ed w,,t?;ir. jto fact :+ freeway t'fgt,t <:f wa;' :: :. . & . The ina)irr xn height of c :.:�,; s u is ,)cz exce d 45 feet. b. The mvxlmtm; surLai x— :vou 4t .: syrali rat exceed 150 :gLws feet. A-11 Other Locatif-'all. e. 'he maximutr. 1:81ght of a Sign Chall not exceed 20 feet. b. Tile maximum s,afaao urea ofi o siff:t sltsLl rot oxceesd 50 equare feet. Fiho(:pitlq Centers - A!, %4C4tiOnC. Ni'twlthataendinq the gravislans of sutr-&w—Agrapf's i ;Aid 2, an aiiecrate standard far fare. ,%ia:rdi ,q adverticinq eig7is fOv •site:¢ In oiablishssci as fo31c>w,z: ' o • T le maxi sum au'-face area, cii`. a .aign =zhljl not oxceed 50 eGuaro fret or . 25 yar C:rC (1/1 of 1%) >g tht tOtn1 existing b .lding floor area in z &Nopp;ntl center, whichever is g;eate: , except ' ? Shift, in arty evera, =:d S:.q'n liiail emmed Gqulre fgft .ih Rvtface a,ra..- . s, The mart:num i%C[glst of s. r.,9.ui; sh3,1i 20 foot. Cl9C e:rcead . � (4) Nivrber of Frew-attw4ireg Sigzss - l i retarr,a. i biot tIIr1rA t}-*n one fxeae-staxiding &ag;x ;;ireli be por- mitted ore a P&rce). o:i.lunri , 3Ka-sit ti>a a ati:pyitq .can;ar hau rontnga on 2 or ma;A ztefNI461 thr. rhop- Ping canter shrill bpi Per,nitieu ; fra3-,rtardirg aigna, Su"%idcsd that the 2 ulgna %re: rul: loc:•eted .v: ?toe Fame eti?pt; ato at least 100 feet e,, ;; .i n•i `1 ,,,�zi te zecond ( tdrp does t'01 SY_ceed )AO 5gtrarM Yrac t lrl ;urjaca brw -Qd 20 MOT ir• hrig:e. I i . . is-. ... •',f. _ P ... `iho £B sd 0.AfAce 43'Wa of *We affixed to n r Wilding shall bo as follows: a. Front well of building - The *urfaaca area of the sign *hall not exceed 10% of the Surface area of tl:® front face of the building. h. Side waills of a building - The awSuco a-an cf the sign e�811 not emeeid .. 10% of she surface area of the aside face of the build". a. Rear wall of a building - The, Gaud ace am of &.* sign shoo snot exceed 6% of the aw°faoc area of the roar fear of the buiwAv. (a) Mmet.ional Signs - Duvatianal signs to adviao patrons of location, dtstanae or ptaWse ahall be prnmitted an a parcel of Land as fouaws: (1) Ths'ma3dmum height of ouch signs shall not exceed 3 feet. (2) The araxImum amlace am of such'aigans shall not exceed 6 aquam feet. (d) Ott-alto Identifimticss iffgam - On-site J*Mtbfication signs aMmed to the surface of walls, windows, and doors of Pomment structures, which db nct .auceed 4 Inches in letter Naight and do not a=aed 4 aquars fact in area are Permitted in addition to away other sign pamitted in this ordinance. SECTION r't E..I(9 A t3MM, Par *ale, kaa* or rent signa shall be permla*d to be plaac" its all noeaa olsssMeations sub- lest tothe follawIsm regulations. 1. For one and two famfsl r+aef4e�tl =*a - one y reign not esuceedinq 4 sqm ftet in surface and not more then 4 feet in height. 2. tic multiple fandly i®eidaatial rams - one signs for each sepamts front*" on es street, each sign not to *wood 16 equa a feet in surface and not snort than 0 feet in height. 3. For cosmnem al asses - one sign far each sspatnte f mugo on a Street, each sign not tm oxaeed 24 squam foot in surface area and not more than a feet in height. 4. Fos induutrieft asses - arm sign for each separate fi=tsge on 4 streeet, each sign not to exceed 32 seines,+ feet in surface ame and not more than 10 feet in height. i y v r{.;. .....L+'�FYa .»dK'`� . <„:� •:...vb 4b"'�' MAI (n) Ofh-ktc roUbdIvleEEn signs, advuVaIng the oaiginml sale of a zubdivialon ass pennitted wStM4 tM bo,and©ries of a oubdivialon, 1 . No $Ago'sbM exceed 100 nquseo f6at in aft&. 2 . No resign shall 1* within 100 Peet of any existing reaialanoo that is oatsids of tU oubdlvulon bounl I 3. No more than two &seals SWS elasll be parraltted for each oubd vlalon. t 4. No Migaa shall be wtlfieAally 1lghW. . Qb) Off-alto subdivision zWe adtvausing the origlngl ealo of a subdiviaian, ahall be pa mittod i subject to the following minimum steandArds: I . No sign ahaali axo3ad 100 square Peet in area. 2. No Mgn shall be within 100 facet of any axlatla9 � residence. f .3. No more than two ouch signs @MU be 1pi=Itted. for rash esubdivislon. 4. Ths Mart period of time a eiges may romain in Place shell be two years. 5. NO sign fahsll be tarcificially tJ.gbtad, � r a (XXY EII i a- vo _4 7 elf f I �(/!/✓lft� _mac ...._ ._.— _� _.a � P' :.. .,—, 00 ' -- -- off? o✓ `� S©a, Ole d 00 i, '_. _ . .. .. ..�.�¢oel�'%T yam`•` ._C� rt � r.�` •Y.�i _ �k '� � Y^y%" *�� I r �. y 00 _ . .ice '_ --- --- . .. -- -- • - —_. "�2'�'�-�•.---_+". le i n i DATE V', h,: n: tt nlrty CUI'K;!;Yn Gt�G?,010,?NOA pt ; lit Lt:y 1-in (•)1'(.l tila ilCU 73026 SAN_ N N�ICHOLfS. PAUA DESERT.CA. �i1C1UL::d i'1':;iCl(:-by••-a Ctic le; ti.ot�a;^.rlf.' . 09c?rial CGA'.f7if.`.nt: C7 U::'t , i1fGrU^ilia.... !'CCL)drRC^ , H'siac ;:r, caroful 1'8L<3d11 Ows cad .. "quasi" '„ tiiiCaB 2:), 3.t1 i! . I':G'l. i'V [l;r'.r::'tCd tr :!. iy +. ..l .i1 It Mil r=41 .0611 . shall be reh.fl*It;d Et the rind of tivo w11c:I; t.hs much! c.l: all} •„ rjl'al' Iv1y Lln'averable comment is: Sounds Me a v:andutta he'wvien.' t:w hard fact t':hc,t individuals Co into business to make monc'.y illici they ino,,r- to thl:; aria CC (a:;t tha?: for varicu6 rF,,.:;('ans . 1 a :y tax I 4 air �t �v lil 21171flF�'O 'i:hiC r. , _nr, cio 1:.":' Fire :..•i.., at ;nC'I'!,`!_•:'' u anc ccs arU I ila`lU f_jf_.. . d, Solarn1 Micro, acc_ c 5 ix, n V fib :Ind .AILI ML :di i,,,i371C.^`.: he C'8 1;'."P. ` t-aim . :,0 .,.tc ,,vail-,.blP for a m xe \;'i1:1t:e Of tillie uy i'icle s , ass 0tant , clerks , tyl7lsi:; , i.t:' . i CLL)' 'aia't is trying 0 ahatc visual p0 LuM n it '1:4ma: i.ne' jr" ' U v'r:)LIkli „rocaulgaze ,'Lich . t c&nlphr. , nvc7&r N3? covar for Mr! '-7_:.,k:L r I'C. ')._tTl . . ! �!'i! 1. ..u':1_� 02s 11•1 ti C). to know that it i1: BLI:;ai;,',.^C i:^ thO. 1Jl,i iy i:il t. i115C' 111), ii rtc-ht E inc-:ral;' yuE..0 tt d 1 ` ! r '_'c,, . Rave , W;11cr o haV e. != • - c7n,S: vot:cr. , ed Sion MyrPrm-, DATE r..a 1 S76 TO ' l ...( i::t. E nJ iro a in e n t a 1. S PC s. - G ity i;f Palm De sort { e %-2M73,026 SAN NiCHOLAS, PALM DESERT.CA. 8�&�0 25. 38-2. 01 The primary purpose of a sigii is to CUId;1hU'.t l'I'.11'E. . . not necessarily attractI! A sign may be attractive tv Niout being all attractiori - ' 25, 38-2. .12 1 implore you to nct coin new words! "Shado'x lighted ' iu engLish, is c;oraracictcry! An indirectly lighted object is one that. has no visible source of hghtiut•;. 'such Ea oojact rnl-iy be lit from within or ;vithout but the sDurcc> IS NOT VISIBI.E. .t •xould sunge-zt that you get a glossary froill the sign industry. 25.38-2, t3 143' is resVictivo. Throe y fI: max . allows , d%;pen C CCui'O Ctct I•C..^,s lh,,,q oil Ci G f ' or 18 x 24 . The olLJect of an. ordinaa;ici; is to describe limit not faec :ss,ari.l} to impose restrictions . :ifi. 3f?-2. 19 P1.(:asc; cllange tc 'above roof iirrs or parc,>et 25. 38-2. 20 ' U1i of eavc or boi.toul of eay. ? Isn't parapet butter? 25. 38-2. 27 L''isplay wtndc:rrs might: be s parawj ainco in the Lrtidc the Lvindow is cftcn nct considt)rod to i;u a mart of tho -lace" of the building . .cieponfling cu c;.roLu'lr t:.:ulc:es. 25. 38-2. 23 sic cq , fa, per stew? Qms this _nclude striping and oihal- dccoratiorf? here is ,. it :.Cttl E' Of I r:'oa1Ci I3't (),)err UII.1055 l 4'J i3C(_ ,xi:'i)a1't',CLU 411fC1rCt` till.'- Y0:`itCiCi:1 CI'IS . , Clrcyhound and MayHowor and Ecano C0010 to m1nd. i 'y ELMS Plot . _scwh'-ro to got what their wan', oil 1-heir vcllicles. 'Mir; cl Llesticii i5 ei lorct,invii ::,:I rr,edl 25. 38-3. 01 \;'itch of this is redund_"t and the burden Lllct you pill: on the siCfil sh(:1ri cl i) '(`a I'.S it7 bo all indtrOct restric:1Un of trade! Once you .'.I'CrCi\' have ptom.< oil :fih.. , cltcllt.s +'c tlsc:al why do they iliivd to pay for additional t'•lans? I wouhl ll.ke ir) sijq,�c,st file d,iifurnntlation betwaun "new" acid"existing '' Our taxes have alreao}, paid f(r your photographic: files anci lny cli;enis and I Insist fc-,rl:ing out additional monies fc r r orvinJs c:irc ady POW Ur! 111001--mr`m - -rown DATE " t'l TO � ti r il•,�3!, 2 ,i i took s- 2-.i��- 73'026 SAN NICHOiAS, PALM DESERT. CA. 25. ;'U-3 . 03 Stawments ceinnot `hCd'✓l Pictures::liG.'4] i• Ui1ic 1), 1i ;:_v :; i .li ;( Y" A,; !ii",; th e larclue,g^ we corr:rlunicatc vVith in th;.a country ;., .;l ii hi oll'l 01 I(.;'ntittCati.'.:n Sign `i l:i ;10: i.rcdcludi`d in tlt:', l.i.: : i•rirF difLrer,co bst:weell a iurlie i'iB iC arle iln i.U, c.i(frl ? 1'.;%&I, 11i: IyC31. .... , a?1G the occupant arc: Ci l: rent and bo " on r � L-1 are <.,...,,. SC:1' (r'Ltl 25 . 30-5. 03 EmtJA s or Fiat€ ? 14 hat i3 a "plat ? Is :[q t , 'l.r, 25, 38-5 You (lid not pr OviNe a coy of SecUoll 24 \T ,• r LW OW u ' �a:r. cue i rr:C'3s:: f r,,tiRa_ fi is somowhare Q(-ftno ,i' t,h '.it r!] 1va l a.y l:1. . J::Cli 'C:C;,.t Ciao C,, b(:VC11.I !•T n'v c,.iC:;; ii:'v asked n,e to repaint "stNcn' sign: I,rnorallCc n_ crrt:tltuti(,ns! ri - +.: I_ -%r r •( ign Crance of tie law, 'l''';•or appSal chjnllQs ?naot Le ir1Ua".:A t'1 C. ✓C"! rq!1) JQ C iJ;use adeit r-i,r' gp,)l:rnr?oni, .. 25. 38-1.3 . 02 1plir i pQil3lty i).t r ` , y hiriNghK 0,� C c� - r71ai1" Li n,jc ru PS(ul.i] igh15 `.S"f1:.1l Cl be to citica Wa.) 4 sq,. &Lho ire.!' d'hy should °. ff; be al;. aiG l'argor lottors _ii nos 3q . R. oinl l CCr( Y t; u3 smcllOr letters Cr —1C. S.;iIM ;ur )se 25. 38-1.4 , C; It is faulty !Ogle t�.:1 Gi'C .LIC_•: "140tel° . . i.t in 11 _ xlying &JI crlilnxYd0t , .i,. n tll ?i j, isl ah ose that cat are con rjwnist-;1 IRTe•.i in un vcwpted • i,' i h?020ri l.OTIL, It A:G! is not alluxud than h1onr Inn mu, Cane bo di.,. 110,7ec. If nwncgement Wi.is iv sce the Lii.gma wimcuud,.? g the 'A''`r.) "i ' rl.;ilr' 1 t 'thi! nU Gitlf is i.n al i7J51.t = to rostriat salli'.7l mere--tlr�re'--rncra. - ,DATE TO i,age three .. F� 73026 SAN NICHOLAS PALM DESERT..CA. 2260 9-8. 38-14 . 04 B, (.b) & (c) Allow✓ing for an extreme example of misplacement v✓ould tt not be acceptable to alloy the name of the hotel (or whatever) in 3" (3 inch) max. hetuil't" D . change 13" x 24" to 3 sq. ft, for the same reasons as in 2 . 13, 25. 38-14 . 06 2513 of the mail entitlement in certain cases ;.: too small. . .i. e. the rear of El Pasco on the parking area or the rear of Iiiahr.,ay l I i in the same area. If tiro Secondary rrontag, is strictly a service entry (alley) and the :l.gn is no more 25 ft. from the road, 25% may be adequate. 25. 38--15 .02 B. contradictory to 14 . GG? ? ? 25, 3E-15 . 03 A. Faveline, Top of Envc, Bottom of have , Parapet , Roof. . .wrhich is which ? 25, 38•-15 . 07 13x24 or three sq. ft. ? 25. 38-•15 . I 1 (0 8 feet above the highest road? Toncgraphic i<:r.alty is innorent in this article. . All allowanct, should be made, particulw-ly for fr oin1 ige t'o'.16 on the north side Of llighwrly i I I . 25. ?i!-15 . 7.•l Do:` th-, v sC;. ft. ex,clud;: photographs?, 3 S(j.ft, in a 20 lincal foC't window i:; ri(licullou:i . . , ,;peclal.ly it the tr'nant g0!:.^a 13" ))::hilld the gl t.is as :-;ow-M] rC"ltur:; in Pairn Springs arc currently doing, ralother can of 'i:::^.r':,$>_ vPorms. 25, 30- 16 .02 (5) Visual pollution vs. Visual Boredom. I'd Hato to do-wngrade your int:Cut BUT . . . Visual Boredom is mor. ! dan9crous than visual shock as pravon by ;evcr,il recent . Ycdoral reports oil hlghv✓a}- signage. Onu man'!; !coney is arioth .r's duvn,fall . i 1, CIO aTmony" in awlya'rs dinclH'tl, r:lu_'titl)r can of w('rins! 25. 38-16. 07 lUhat is thf: candl.epo.ver un 3 °-q.ft. cif whtto panolli ng in dircc'i: s•unlic;. V hot i:; the Candlehcmr r c witted with 3000 w,rtr.; of light throvin indiructl}' : Glar ; seems to be the conc:'ril. . . not size. .1 Southern California Edison Company Post Office Box 203 Palm Desert, California 92260 May 24, 1976 2i Mr. Paul WilliamsD Director of Environmental Services fNVjRD 2 j9/ City of Palm Desert C/Zy P tvrA( E 45-275 Prickley Pear Lane pA(,y sFRVjC Palm Desert, California 92260 Pfs,RrEs Dear Mr. Williams: The Southern California Edison Company appreciates the consideration given us to present our recommendations for changes and additions to the city sign ordinance. 25.38-11.02 Signs on Public Property or Right of Way Prohibited Change the first sentence to include public utility poles as follows: "Signs on the public property, right of way, or public utility poles shall be . . . article." General Provisions Add 25.38-16.15: "No sign or sign structure shall be erected in such a manner that any portion of its surface or supports shall be within six feet horizontally of, or twelve feet vertically of, overhead electric conductors which are energized in excess of 750 volts." Reason: These distances are a requirement of General Order 95 which is part of the Electrical Safety Orders of the Division of Industrial Relations, State of California. These Electrical Safety Orders set the standards of safety which are followed by the Edison Company. 25-38-17.06 Political Sign Regulations Change the first sentence to include the work "affixed to" - 2 in relation to public utility poles as follows: "(5) Such signs shall not be nailed to trees, fence posts or affixed to public utility poles . . . right of way." In providing these reccmmendations it is Edison's intention to provide the city of Palm Desert with suitable legislation to protect our employees who climb poles, provide for the safety of others, and to maintain a clean environment. We ask that favorable consideration be given to these suggestions. Yours very truly, 4 6W Kermit Martin City/Area Manager KOM:j - ,FNI OF FIRE pj:011-. rI1, 1.r+ r couPrkAnoN vn: rl 'm IF,u:wl< DIVISION Or I nrr ST: Y t;e.VID L. F-i_AKE ♦ _.— �, — — ."'-- COUNTY FIRE V2ARDEN 210t.E;:, * ... 47 Dle.. I . FERRIS. CAL' Vr±IJIA �237t- TELE-'t•r'UNF 1. 'q 657 '1F� May 12, 1976 City of Palm Desert Department of Environmental Services P.O. Box 1977 Palm Desert, CA 92260 Reference: Proposed Sign Ordinance Gentlemen: We appreciate the opportunity to review the proposed Ordinance and E.I.R. Our only comment is directed at section 25.38-13, specifically subsection 13.02 -name plates. We feel that all buildings with emphasis on single family dwellings should have a sign indicating street address. This sign should be readily visible, during day or night, to the operator of any emergency vehicle on the street. We frequently have problems locating addresses in an emergency situation, and signs of this nature would help alleviate the problem. If we can be of any further assistance please contact us. Very truly yours, DAVID L. FLAKE County Fire Warden D VIDJ.0 EGEL Fire Protection Planning and Engineering Officer DJO:jl C A,: b s ® MAY 1 1119715 ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES CITY OF PALM DESERT CC ss 1�'V 3700 CENTRAL AVENUE • RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA 00%v ONOO�00 Mailing Address P. O. 80X 2200, RIVERSIDE. CALIFORNIA 92506 V May 21 , 1976 Department of Environmental Services City of Palm Desert P.O. Box 1977 Palm Desert, California 92260 We have reviewed the proposed sign ordinance of the City of Palm Desert and have the following comments and suggestions. In the daily performance of our work and that of other public utilities , it is necessary for us to temporarily install signs to control traffic within the vicinity of our work. In addition, to protect the public from hazard we install signs and markers to alert contractors excavating near our major facilities with instructions to call us before excavating. We would appreciate your revising Article 25.38-16.12 - Exception to Sign Limitations, to clearly exempt "temporary traffic control signs used during construction and maintenance of utility facilities" and "substructure location and identification signs and markers required to protect these facilities." The terms and quotes are only suggested wording. Any other wording acceptable to the City would be satisfactory. If you have any questions or if we can be of further assistance, please call me in Riverside on (714) 781-6112. Paul Weldon Technical Supervisor PW:js Chamber Airs id's Sign Ordinance Protesi fly EVELYN YOUNG dinance. Daily News Staff writer The directcrs agreed to form PALM DESERT — The a committee to study the or- Chamber of Commerce this dinance and to make mombig heard from member, recommendations. Jim Engle of Imperial Signs, The Midsummer Madness- .who is protesting the sign or- Bicentennial celebration on dinance scheduled for adoption July Fourth grossed$3,04 with by the city council at its next an approximate $800 net profit Incethi . to Vie Chamber of Commerce. Engle said the ordinance will McNeilly reported he had not require any proposed sign yet received a bill for trophies costing $500 or more to go but figures an approximate$000 before the Design Review after all bills are paid. Board, and that it will cost President Elmer Ruling said businessmen a $100 fee to be estimates of those attending the paid to the city to appear before Midsummer Madness celebra the board. In addition, Engle tion were ioG low. Ruling said Totally incorrect told them, it will cost the he was there during the entire businessmen $25 for a permit. event and approximately 1,500 He estimated additional art persons attended, not 1,000 as work and drawings to present to had been reported. lie es- the city's Design Review Board timated his figures not only on at$100,plus another$50 for the what he saw but of the amounts time of an employe to present of food and refreshments sold the sign and appear before the at the booths. He said many board. Engle estimated a $500 people brought their own pie- sign would eventually cost as ales, in addition to the food uch as 7g5. sales at the booths. ity tanager Don McNeilly The Chamber of Commerce suggested that the sign or- adopted its budget for the dinance which was put together quarter started July 1, as Incorrect, changes originally by a committee of presented by Gerald Lawrence, were not substantive directors of the chamber had chairman of the finance com- and were made with been changed when reviewed by mittee. The budget estimates the city planning commission income of$13,750 and expenses members of the and staff before it reached the of$12,305,with a surplus of$t,- commi ttep present. city council. , 445. Further, no com- Al Stutz, a member of that menu were re committee,was asked to check n 7 the chamber's original or- received ( ' at any dinance against the finished or- of the Planning Commission meetings from the public. 25. 38-2.. . 23 VI{1JCLE IDT IN trIQLMO S A - No other Cit, equiros this typo of cony. 1. B - 6 sq.ft.-21x3° = Most. 'signs on Vana and larger delivery trucks cover an average of 32 sq . ft. or 4r.8. C - Vehicles comming from other cities ! how does this ordinance effect them?. 25.38-3 SIGN PERM.IT PRCCFnuIaRF;� A - Maint-enance (this includes cleaning, re-painting and repairing any electrical Lighting components or structural repairs. No city requi: a Sign Permit to MA7NTA%N an existing sign, -only a valid city licens< This type of a permit is not practical, -exe_mple : (Most cities want the existing signs cleaned up). B - This ordinance requires a Design Review for every sign (All types ) valued over $500,00. A realistic figure would be $2000.00. An avert sign (with the exception of smaller painted suns) sells for $1500.0� to $2500.00. Palm Springs does not require design review for anything 30 sq.ft. a: under. Indio does not require a special design review, they do it aT staff level. Thhe,County does not require a design review. Rancho Mirage is the same as Palm Springs. C - Fee : No city charges a design review fee except Palm Desert. This fee should be part of the city function, we pay taxes for this type of service. Example : To Purchase a sign for $§4,V.00, please check the follow v a Cost of Sign $510.00 Cost of D.R. Fee 100.00 (Approx. ) Cost of Permit 25.00 Cost to secure Permit 50.00 (Art Work) Cost for extra Drawing for D.R. 100.00 (Approx. cost of Small Painted , $785.00 Electric or Hand Crafted Sign) T Page 2 C (continued ) This would be plus State Sales Tax and not to mention the loss of valuable time. Design ),, view on an average takes approx. 3 weeks. S[Mcial Note . WHAT IF IT HAPPENS—TITS DESIGN DOES NOT PASS??? 25. 38-8 SAFE SIGN:. A - Before ordinance is passed it should state what "SAFE SIGNS" are. Sign Company 1. A valid State Contractors License. of " 2. A valid City License. 3. All electrical signs should be inspected by Underwriters Laboratories and this number should appear with each sign permit. These are requirements by other cities - Protects the paople of the community - 4. Should include - Electrical & Non-electrical Signs . -- A11 other cities require this -- 25.38-13 01 REALTY SIGNS A - How much for this fee : This should be spelled out before ord. is f /a it passed 1. Indian Wells charges $25.00 2 . Palm Springs charges 2.00 25.38-14 01 SIGN AREA - HOTELS & APARTMENTS A - Basic Allowable sign area should be at least 20 sq . ft. plus 1 additieii: sq.ft. for each unit. With a max. of 100 sq.ft. in area - Any Resort Hotel should be allowed more - This is how the Palm Springs Ord. reads . B - Accessory Service Signs - Should be allowed - Such as VACANCY OFFICE - THERAPY POOL and at a minimum of 5 sq. ft. C - The word MOTEL is not permitted in this ord. - WHY??? P, I;e 3 ,,5.38-14,02 SIGNS AREA,_ CONDOMINIUMS A - Sign Area - Minimum of 20 sq.ft. not 10. And an additional I sq.ft. for every additional 5 units , not 10. B - No ordinance can legally control signs within a private complex such as a condominium Project. 25,38-14,03 SIGN AREA - OTHER NON-RESIDENTIL�IL USES &LUVED A - The proposed 20 sq.ft. is again a min, and not hardly enough for EXAMPLE; The Palm Desert Community Presbyterian Church Dr. Miller Pastor There should also be space for other information such as special services . Recommend at least 40 sq .ft. 25.38-14.04 ATTRACTION BOARDS FOR HOTELS ds'a4ft B - This ord. states 5 sq .ft. as the allowed size for .Attraction Board. How can the words Continental Breakfast - Therapy Pools - fit in a 5 sq.ft. area - Impossible, We recommend at least 10 sq.ft. 2.5.38-14.05 FREE STANDING SIGNS A - This ord. states 10' in height. 1. Example - If a sign measuring 4'x5' is 10' high - the bottom of the sign will only be 6 ' above grad. - 2. Most 10' high signs will be blocked by vehicles and shubbery. 3. To compain with Palm .Springs Ord, - they allow 12 ' for small businesses and 20' for large Resort Hotels , 25, 38-15,04 SECOND STORY BUSINESS A . - Should not have to go through the Design Review Process - Again no fee should be required. c 5,,38-15. 10 USE OF ATTRACTION BOARDS BY 14101 CFUBS AIv'A CADAIRETS A. - The 25 sq.ft. should be .a.11owod for the single faced signs & the double faced signs. Should be able to borrow sq.footage from the main I.D. sign to increase area of reader board. This inturn will of course decrease the area of the I.D. Sign. 25,38-15, 11 GASOLINE & SERVICE. STATION SIGNS 1. Again 8' in height is too low for proper visibility and safety. Palm.Springs allows 201 for Service Station Signs. 25.38-15. 12 Signs Shopping Centers 1. 5 sq.ft. per acre is most certainly impossible. It should be based on the lineal front footage of the property. BUT NOT PER ACRE. EXAMPLE: Palms to Pines Shopping (Safeway) Center is Approx. 5 acres this would only allow a sign of 25 sq.ft. or approx. a 3 'x8' sign. ?? 25 38-15 13 SALE AND RENTAL SIGNS A - Real Estate 'people should go over this -- A 181lx24" FOR SALE SIGN for 2� Acres???? 25 38-15 14 INTERIOR REALTOR SIGNS This governs how. and what size display' s you may have in a window to advertise property for sale - Max. size 18"x24", one ft. back from window (inside). Can Real Estate People Live with This??? 25.38-15. 15 SIGNS IN RM ZONES - Sign Area 1. Why Shadow lighted or unlighted signs -- This ord. does not allow Interior lighted signs - WHY???? 2. Again Free Standing Signs like this should be at least 12' high. 3. Sales & Rental Signs - Again only allowing one 18"x24" sign. n 4 k a ,5r38-16 01 GT:N1FRAT. PROVxSL0—Nj 1. Again not necessary to. have each -1-;m go through Design Review Board. The Planning Dept. at Staff lava l should be ablo to handle 80% of thas signs v ithout going through the Design Review Board. 25238-16p06 COTAR Oc ST. >td Black and White should not be concidezed as colors. 7.5 38-16.07 INTERNAT.,j I I uM-1d - S —z REAP-", 2a This definitely hurts the night-t-ime merchants. 75 38-18 04 REMOVAL Atdn WJ RT --ATIOid PERTOT) Our proposal for an Amortization Schedule. To be determined by the building official after consultation with tilt. sign owner and/or sign manufacturer. Value shall ba the book valu8 of the sign as it exists on the effective date of the Ordinance. Value of Sign Period for Removal 100.00 or less 90 days 100.01 - 200.00 6 months 200.01 - 400.00 1 year 400.01 - 650.00 2 years 650.01 - 1000.00 3 years 1000.01 - 1500.00 4 years 1500.01 - 2500.00 5 years 2500.01 - 5000.00 7 years 5000.01 - 7500.00 8 years 7500.01 - L0,000.00 9 years L0,000.00 - or more 10 years OTHER SUGGESTIONS: Should be° no permit fee necessary to change a sign face. Most cities review at staff level and approve. As long as there is no structural changes. For further information please feel free to call me at any time at: IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY, INC. 1347-3566, THANK YOU, Jim Engle. REMEMBER THE NEXT HEARING or READING WILL BE ON JULY 22nd , PALM DESEf COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 7 :00 P.M. DLPAU14ENT OF FIi\'L= PIIOTLC71014 IN (,C1Ui'I[li k'i ION WITH THE ,\ 'ra hell. .. C�I YT1' --�,_' C!•.t_IFOI?NIP. OI\/I5,1 UtJ of ronr$TRY -N-"-, `•'G RI VLHSI fiJ?';- .!�"7�.i 1 DAVID L. 1-LAKE - 4 COUNTY FIRE 1t'ARDEN 4.---�-_�— T701'%LST SAN Ih.CIIJ i0 $T Rf ET PERRIS• CAUFORNIA 92370 TELEPHONE (714) C57-3183 May 12, 1976 City of Palm Desert Department of Environmental Services P.O. Box 1977 Palm Desert, CA 92260 Reference: Proposed Sign Ordinance Gentlemen: We appreciate the opportunity to review the proposed Ordinance and E.I.R. Our only comment is directed at: section 25.38-13, specificall.y subsection 1.3.02 -name plates. We feel that all buildings with emphasis on single family dwellings should have a sign indicating street address . This sign should be readily visible, during day or night, to the operator of any emergency vehicle on the street. We frequently have problems locating addresses in an emergency situation, and signs of this nature would help alleviate the problem. If we can be of any further assistance pl.ease contact us. Very truly yours, DAVID L. FLAKE County Fire Warden D VID J. 07tTF.GEL Fire Protection Planning and Engineering Officer DJO:j1 R Ct,: � I,.,IAY 1 11197E ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES CITY OF PALM DLSERT STATE OF CALIFORN IA—BUSINESS AND TRANSPORTATION AGENCY EDMUND G. BROWN JR., Governor DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT 8, P.O. BOX 231 -- 001 -it SAN BERNARDINO, CALIFORNIA 92407 May 21, 1976 Project Review o8-Riv-74; 111-93.4/96.o; 37.8/40.7 Environmental Services City of Palm Desert 45-275 Prickly Pear Lane Palm Desert, CA 92260 Attention Mr. Paul A. Williams Dear Mr. Williams: Thank you for the opportunity to review the proposed sign Ordinance and the Draft EIR on the Sign Ordinance for the City of Palm Desert. We have no comments on this proposal. Very truly yours, J. E. PEDDY District Director By ei�0-4yl;;5 � Robert F. Pond Project Studies Coordinator (714) 383-4059 RECEIVED NIAY 2 51976 ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES CITY OF PALIA DESERT