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CITY OF PALM DESERT
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
Rachelle D. Klassen, City Clerk
Angie Marron, Office Specialist II
March 3, 2020
Submission of Minutes for the Parks and Recreation
Commission
Attached for your records are the approved minutes of the Parks and Recreation
Commission Meeting of Thursday, February 13, 2020.
Please let me know if you have any questions or need additional information. Thank you.
Attachment (as noted)
CITY OF PALM DESERT
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
ADJOURNED MEETING
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2020 - 8:30 a.m.
Administrative-Conference Room - Palm Desert Civic Center
73-510 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert, California 92260
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Paul Murphy convened the meeting at 8:30 a.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent
Chair Paul Murphy Commissioner Van Tanner
Vice Chair Randy Guyer
Commissioner Gerald Dawson
Commissioner Kim Housken
Commissioner Mary Helen Kelly
Commissioner Mike Hardin
Ex-Officio Members:
Paula Simonds, YMCA of the Desert
Kevin Kalman, Desert Recreation District
Also Present:
Ryan Stendell, Director of Community Development
Jennifer Nelson, Management Analyst
Randy Chavez, Landscape Supervisor
Sabby Jonathan, Council Liaison
Angie Marron, Recording Secretary
Guests:
David Keyes, YMCA of the Desert / Aquatic Center
Brenda Nutcher, Desert Recreation District
Tammy Martin, Friends of the,Desert Mountains
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
NONE
IV. ` CONSENT CALENDAR
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A. MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED MEETING OF THURSSDAY,
FEBRUARY 13, 2020
Rec: Approve as presented
Upon a motion by Commissioner Kelly, second by Commissioner Dawson, carried
by a 6-0-1 vote of the Commission, (AYES: Guyer, Dawson, Housken, Murphy, Kelly,
Hardin; NOES: None; ABSENT: Tanner) the Consent Calendar was approved as
presented.
V. NEW BUSINESS
NONE
VI. CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. COMMISSIONER ASSIGNMENTS FOR PARK AMBASSADOR PRGM
Ryan Stendell followed up with the Commission and stated that this is a first
attempt to try and take every park and consider the highlights throughout
the year. Mr. Stendell stated that this is an intent to be a helpful guide to
the parks that should be visited from January to December. This is by no
means set in stone, but felt, that it is a great guideline to start with. For
instance Civic Center Park should be highlighted when baseball and softball
are going on, Hovley Soccer Park during the early fall months. Mr. Stendell
welcomed any suggestions on how parks should be viewed.
Chair Murphy asked if- this is an example of how things should- be done
moving forward, checking the parks highlighted in designated months.
Jennifer Nelson stated that her understanding was that the Commissioners
wanted to report on the same three parks every other month. All the
Commissioners are encouraged to go to, those parks on the designated
months. Ms. Nelson also stated that she is working on putting together a
check-list and will get it out as soon ,as possible. Mr. Stendell stated that
this is only the first step,'next would be how we want to view the parks
moving forward.
Commissioner Kelly asked if they are supposed to go to each park and
report on it, and engage. with people; would it- be considered an
ambassador: Ms. Nelson stated that it is completely up to the Commission
if they feel comfortable talking to people. Staff is looking for general
observations of the parks, however, if they would like to talk to people and
report on their thoughts, staff welcomes it. Ms. Nelson also suggested that
this would be a great opportunity to wear the shirts that she has ordered for
them when out observing the parks. The shirts have Palm Desert and
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Volunteer on them, its possible people will see that you are with the City
and feel more comfortable approaching you.
Chair Murphy asked why the shirts say volunteer and not Commissioner.
Ryan _Stendell stated, per Administrative Services, they asked that
volunteer be identified on the shirts.
Commissioner Housken is agreeable with visiting three parks a month,
however, it feels like that would be a lot to report back. Ms. Housken
suggested the possibility of dividing the parks instead of multiple reports on
the same park. Chair Murphy suggested maybe dividing it into two groups.
Ms. Nelson stated that the parks can definitely be divided up.
Vice Chair Guyer stated that in the past there wasn't much to report on, the
important part is the interactions. Mr. Guyer's goal is to find out about the
people that do not go to the parks. Chair Murphy took time to thank Vice
Chair Guyer for all of the help and information he has given him, and is very
much appreciated.
B. AQUATIC CENTER ENHANCEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE
Ryan Stendell stated that a memo was distributed as a follow up to the two
member sub-committee that has been put together on looking at the
operations of the Aquatic Center Facility. Jennifer Nelson and the sub-
committee members did a great job summarizing items. They put together
a staff recommendation utilizing the suggestions, which look at
approximately 3to 4 years. All are great ideas, shade is one of the critical
missions for the facility. The Chlorking is a backhouse, innovative
technology where we can use our facility to make our own chlorine.
Approximately $60,000 is spent on chlorine annually, so the payback is
pretty reasonable. If there are any specific questions about contemplated
ideas, there is a full team to answer them.
Jennifer Nelson thanks Paula Simonds, David Keyes, Chair Murphy and
Vice Chair Guyer for being at the meetings, giving guidance and hopes to
put it all together. Kevin Kalman suggested a new product for the rock wall
and zip line feature that's been out for about two years now. The concept
is similar to American Ninja Warrior.
David Keyes presented a PowerPoint that displayed a Widbit, an idea to
implement at the.aquatic center. You can add to it each year, which can be
a fun obstacle course for kids. A nice amenity and enhancement that is easy
to take down and put up. Sabby Jonathan asked which pool does staff
envision using it in. The 50-meter pool, first three lanes, and it would be ran
Friday, Saturday, Sunday it would also be part of the entry fee. It can also
be added as an extra special event rental for pool rentals and parties.
Roughly about $150 to rent, including staffing and life guards
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David Keyes stated that other things staff was looking at ,but were not
necessarily placed on the list because of price points ,were zip lines: As
seen on the PowerPoint display ,there are two dueling zip lines ' If
purchased they would not be side by side .One would be on the deep end
of the 50 -meter pool ,and the other in the recreation pool because the
minimum depth is 4ft. Another item they were looking at is the rock wall,
which curves over the pool and the swimmers can drop into the pool, the
weight limit for both of the items is 2501bs .So were looking at attracting
middle and high school kids to utilize these amenities .The rock wall would
be located at the deep end of the 50-meter pool, so the two diving boards
would still be operating along with the two new attractions ,and staffing
would not be any different since there is someone already in that area.
Chair Murphy asked if the insurance aspect of this is realistic for the
proposed attractions. Ms. Nelson stated that it is possible to get the-
approval for the insurance.
Sabby Jonathan asked why staff is waiting for the 21/22 fiscal year. Ryan
Stendell stated it is reality based budgeting ,it can be tentatively moved up
if needed .Sabby Jonathan stated that the combination enhancement of the
shade structure ,zip line ,the inflatables ,and adding amenities all together
add up to $35,000. Ryan Stendell stated that he certainly would not stand
in the way ,he suggested that the sub -committee that talked about the
enhancements take the lead.
Vice Chair Guyer stated that they talked about trying to get as much in the
budget as possible, and for the Commission to move forward as quickly as
possible . Chair Murphy stated that he would like to move forward with the
enhancements this year .He feels that there is competition coming. in that
the aquatic center didn't have before ,which may affect attendance. The
facility needs something fun and new that nobody else has to keep
attendance up. Vice Chair Guyer also brought up that routine maintenance
has been put off, which can cause conflict on how much money will be spent
on the aquatic center .Ryan Stendell stated there will not be conflict,
Council has never declined any requests for aquatic center funding. Mr.
Guyer suggested that he would like to have more discussions with the
Commission on some of the items on the list.
Commissioner Housken would like to talk about the shade structure options.
Ms. Housken explained that she envisions the metal roof shade structures,
because the facility goes through so many of the fabric ones. Ryan Stendell
stated that if we wanted to do something different we can .There are
prefabricated structures ,at this point we can fit a descent amount of
permanent shade in every year as a recurring project. In over two fiscal
years ,we added two rectangles in the middle of the pool, we can now move
to the east side where most of the recreation swimming happens, which
would be our first recommendation, and continue as funding is available.
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Commissioner Housken asked to see the bigger.splash pad. David Keyes
explained that there can be different themes for the splash pad. Ryan
Stendell stated that the thought process of what was built there was initially
for your infant to toddler use. When you step up to more exciting features,
it attracts a wider audience. Most of the summer time users are looking for
these types of attractions. Commissioner Kelly stated that the quality of the
water is one thing that should be considered, the shade structure and the
rest of the list is pretty well prioritized.
Vice Chair Guyer stated that the shade structure installation is close to the
top of the list. The aquatic center has a problem with shade structures
because all they have is umbrellas and they get moved around and he feels
it's something that should have been addressed years ago. Mr. Guyer
personally feels that it should be addressed in total, and not different
sections at a time.
Sabby Jonathan asked how the sub-committee envisions utilizing the funds.
Is the sub-committee talking about only repairs. Mr. Guyer explained that
in the summer time everyone is scrambling looking for umbrellas or shade.
Shade structures should be installed. Mr. Jonathan explained that he is just
trying to understand that if the City is going to spend money, instead of
doing a band aid approach, then maybe we need to look at a true capital
expenditure. Ryan Stendell stated that investments in high levels of-shade
can be accomplished.
Chair Murphy agrees with Sabby Jonathan. The sub-committee should not
take the band aid approach. If we don't keep improving what we have,
attendance can continue to decline. Sabby Jonathan stated that they are
only increasing the first year proposal by $75,000 if they do the shade
structure and the zip line into the current year, a $260,000 recommendation.
Mr. Jonathan feels that that recommendation would be considered, if not
approved. Mr. Jonathan asked, if this would come out of any restricted
funds, and Ryan Stendell stated it would not, the reality of the aquatic center
fund is when it's in red, it's backfilled by a general fund account. Mr.
Stendell is trying to look at reality, and what finance is going to be thinking
about, which is, that this is not the only facility that we are trying to improve
at the City of Palm Desert.
Sabby Jonathan asked the Commission, in terms of priority, if some items
are pushed back to next year, is that problematic because priorities for
some of the other items can be moved. They chlorine and splash pad are
big ticket items, and can be pushed back, and recommend everything else
like the recreational amenities for this year.
Kevin Kalman asked what the total cost savings is on the chlorine, is it the
entire $16,000. Ryan Stendell stated that $16,000 in the first year is an
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accumulative number that keeps increasing as the facility makes more, its
$16,000 plus different numbers that equal the $500,000. The vendor
prepared this payback report. It-will pay its self-back within five years, and
free up operational expenses.
Ryan Stendell reminded the group that this is the kind of tension he warned
them about. Sending these types of recommendations forward, puts City
Council in a- difficult position. It starts to affect general fund expenditures,
and while we have to look at 3 to 5 year budgets, he will take whatever
recommendation this Commission gives him. There runs a risk of polarizing
and hearing the possibility of "no" on everything. Mr. Stendell stated that
his job is to give the group good recommendations, which includes trying to
find realistic ways to fund projects. He is doing what was suggested and
carrying it forward.
Sabby Jonathan made a suggestion to Chair Murphy, he stated that at the
end of the day, it is up to the committee to do what feels right. One way to
proceed that would be helpful to Council is to present them with a priority
list.
Upon a motion by Vice Chair Guyer, second by Commissioner Dawson, carried by
a 6-0-1 vote of the Commission, (AYES: Guyer, Dawson, Housken, Murphy, Kelly, Hardin;
NOES: None; ABSENT: Tanner) the Commission motions to',consider everything on the
list, except the concession enhancement, and the sub-committee will come up with the
final expanded list for presentation to City Council.
VII. OLD BUSINESS
NONE
VIII. PRESENTATIONS AND UPDATES
A.PICKLEBALL UPDATE
- Presentation by Staff
Randy Chavez addressed the Commission and stated that he put together
a PowerPoint presentation with snapshots of the pickleball courts. Mr.
Chavez circled back to the shade structures, one of the snapshots were the
cantilevers that were drastically delayed, causing the project to fall behind
schedule. The good news is they have arrived and put in place. Chair
Murphy asked what the cost is for the structures, Mr. Chavez confirmed
$30,000 because the footings are much bigger and deeper (5ft x 36in) and
that is according to Building &&Safety standards.
Mr. Chavez also stated that since the structures are in place, they are
getting ready to pour the living room concrete pad. A lot of progress has
been made within the last few days to get this project to look like it is
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somewhat close to completion. Half of the courts are striped and
resurfaced. The pickleball community previously requested the kitchen
area be painted a different color, staff took the request-into consideration
and now the courts have three different colors, instead of the traditional two
colors. The former skate park has been removed and a new steel picnic
shelter has been installed. Another big item that was addressed are lights.
There are two new poles on the south side and two more added on the north
side with heads on order, which will be LED lights. The California corners
were straightened, along with the fence.
Items that still need to be completed is the resurfacing on second set of
courts. Install the remaining perimeter fence. Change all lighting to LED
lights. Install mister systems on the cantilever and shade structure itself.
Staff anticipates this project to be done. with the entire construction this
month, and the landscape by the. end of March.
Commissioner Hardin asked about the total cost for this project. Mr. Chavez
stated $330,000, another $25,000 for landscape with a separate contractor.
Close to $380,000 in total cost.
Commissioner Housken asked if there is a grand reopening event planned.
A press release and outreach program to the community can be done.
B. SPECIAL EVENTS PARTICIPATION UPDATE & FUTURE
OPPORTUNITIES - SPRING CONCERT SERIES
Jennifer Nelson- stated that the weekend event was a success, Chair
Murphy and Vice Chair Guyer were present. It was a great day, with much
traffic. Very inspiring and educational, along with a tremendous turnout.
Ms. Nelson discussed with Chair Murphy future events and the possibility
of volunteering. One topic was the next upcoming event, The Spring
Concert Series in May on Thursday evenings, held at Civic Center. The
majority of those folks don't necessarily use the parks, it might be an
opportunity to engage with them. Would the Commission consider moving
forward with attending special events?
Commissioner Housken thinks that it's great and is happy to do the concert
series. Vice Chair Guyer spoke to a lot of visitors that weren't aware that
the aquatic center is available to the public. Chair Murphy received a lot of
compliments about the City of Palm Desert.
Tammy Martin suggested having a booth at the wildflower event that draws
about three to four thousand people.
Kevin Kalman stated that new maps will be up on March 28th for the new
DRD website.
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Commissioner Housken suggested QR codes that can be scanned and
linked to.our trail maps.
C. FAMILY YMCA OF THE DESERT
Continued to March
D. 'DESERT RECREATION DISTRICT
Continued to March
E. FRIENDS OF THE DESERT MOUNTAINS
Tammy Martin stated that her crew cleared the rock pile that was covering
a dog sign at one of the local trails. Ms. Martin also gave an update on the
Indio Hills trail that (will be opening on March 20th. The Wildflower Festival
is coming up on March 7th and is looking forward to seeing everyone there.
IX. COMMISSIONER ,COUNCIL -LIAISON, AND STAFF COMMENTS
Brenda Nutcher commented that a hotel concierge contacted the DRD and asked
if Adam Sandler and a friend could come in and play basketball. Staff agreed as
long as they sign the waiver and pay the drop-in fee. Needless to say, all was
agreed to and they played with a group of locals.
X. ADJOURNMENT
With unanimous consent of the Commission, the meeting wa adjourned at 9:50
a.m.
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