HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Cultural Resources Preservation Committee 02/24/2015CITY OF PALM DESERT
BUILDING & SAFETY DEPARTMENT
INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
To: Rachelle Klassen, City Clerk
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From: Suzanne Cicchini, Administrative Secretary
Date: February 23, 2016
Subject: Submission of Approved Minutes for the Cultural Resources
Preservation Committee Meeting held on February 24, 2015
Attached is a copy of the February 24, 2015 Minutes of the Cultural Resources
Preservation Committee Meeting approved by the Committee on February 23, 2016.
Please include on the next City Council agenda.
Thank you
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CITY OF PALM DESERT
CULTURAL RESOURCES PRESERVATION COMMITTEE
Minutes
February 24, 2015
Administrative Conference Room
I. CALL TO ORDER
Committee Chair Don Graybill called the meeting of the Cultural Resources
Preservation Committee to order at 9:00 a.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present:
Don Graybill
Kim Housken
K. Gary Olesen
Thomas Mortensen
Bob Pitchford
Leslie Deane Roth
Pamela Williams
Also Present:
Susan Marie Weber, Mayor
Russell Grance, Director of Building and Safety
Suzanne Cicchini, Recording Secretary
III. SWEARING IN OF NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS
Thomas Mortensen and Pamela Williams were sworn in by Rachelle Klassen, City
Clerk, just prior to the beginning of the meeting. Committee Chair Don Graybill
thanked the new Committee Members and appreciated their new input and fresh
ideas. Pamela Williams has been coming to the desert since she was little and
has lived here for 10 years. She was on the Strategic Planning Committee. She
works on political campaigns. Thomas Mortensen has lived here for 14 total
years; 6 years as a full time resident. He is on the Sister City Committee. Mr.
Mortensen loves being in Palm Desert and thinks it is the greatest place in the
whole world to live. Committee Member Kim Housken wanted to know where Mr.
Mortensen moved from. He is from Danville, California. Ms. Williams is from
Kansas City, Missouri.
IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF 03-25-14
CULTURAL RESOURCES
PRESERVATION COMMITTEE
MINUTES FEBRUARY 24. 2015
Committee Member Kim Housken clarified for the new Committee Members
that the Committee has met more frequently than just once a year since
March, 2014. The Committee met for Work Shops. If there is no formal
business such as a public hearing, or matters that require a vote, the
Committee meets for Work Shop discussions. City Staff does not have to
develop Minutes for Work Shops, as no formal business is conducted.
Committee Member Kim Housken requested a change to the Minutes of
3/25/14. On Page 2, the sentence should read: Motion carried by 4-0 with
Roth, Olesen, Pitchford and Housken voting AYE; Graybill abstaining,
and none dissenting. It was previously written as polled with Mr. Graybill's
abstaining vote in the middle between the other Committee Member's AYE
votes. It was confusing and could be misinterpreted. Committee Member
Housken appreciated reading all of Kay McCune's comments. She noted that
it was really nice to have the history of Ms. McCune's house in our Minutes.
Motion was made by Committee Member K. Gary Olesen to accept the
Minutes as amended. Motion was seconded by Committee Vice -Chair
Leslie Deane Roth. Motion carried by 7-0 vote with Graybill, Roth,
Olesen, Pitchford, Housken, Mortensen and Williams voting AYE; none
dissenting. Motion passed unanimously to accept the Minutes as
amended.
VI. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. ELECTION OF COMMITTEE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FOR 2015
Committee Member Kim Housken noted that if the Committee were to meet in
January, elections normally are held during the January meeting.
Traditionally, it has been the Committee's policy, that the Vice -Chair ascends
to the Chair position. If the Vice -Chair is willing, that would be Committee
Vice -Chair Leslie Deane Roth. Discussion commenced. Committee Member K.
Gary Olesen wanted to nominate Committee Member Kim Housken as Chair
again. Committee Member Kim Housken politely declined. She mentioned
that she was happy to help Ms. Roth. We are a working committee and are all
very willing to step up and do what is needed to get things done.
Motion was made by Committee Member Kim Housken to nominate
Committee Vice -Chair Leslie Deane Roth to Chairperson position.
Committee Vice -Chair Leslie Deane Roth accepted the nomination.
Committee Member K. Gary Olesen seconded the nomination. Motion
carried by 7-0 with Graybill, Housken, Olesen, Mortensen, Pitchford,
Roth, and Williams voting AYE; none dissenting.
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New Chairperson, Leslie Deane Roth was congratulated. Discussion
commenced about the Vice -Chairperson position. Committee Member Kim
Housken inquired if Mr. Graybill would have a little more time; was he
wrapping up his Historical Society Presidency? Mr. Graybill replied that he
would be President for another year. Ms. Housken mentioned that by the time
Mr. Graybill was finished with his term at the Historical Society, he would be
ready to ascend to the Chairperson position for this Committee.
Motion was made by Committee Member K. Gary Olesen to nominate
Committee Member Don Graybill as Vice -Chairperson. Committee
Member Don Graybill accepted the nomination. Committee Member Kim
Housken seconded the nomination. Motion carried by 7-0 with Graybill,
Housken, Olesen, Mortensen, Pitchford, Roth, and Williams voting AYE;
none dissenting.
Committee Chair Leslie Deane Roth indicated that she has been very busy
with her work, but her business is in escrow, and as of next week, she will
have a lot more time to dedicate to civic pursuits.
Vill. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
IX. OLD BUSINESS
A. UPDATE: STATUS OF LETTER OF INTEREST FOR PROSPECTIVE
FUTURE DESIGNATIONS
The revised letter is ready. Committee Chair Leslie Deane Roth announced
that she and Committee Member K. Gary Olesen developed a letter to send
out. There are approximately 150 possible designations in the City of Palm
Desert. The goal was to figure out ways to gently persuade property owners to
apply for a designation. This letter will be finalized and the process can move
forward. Committee Member Thomas Mortensen wanted to know if there was a
list of people the letters were sent to. Russell Grance, Director of Building and
Safety explained that a previous version of a letter was sent to the top thirteen
prospects from a list of the Committee developed. Some people were
interested in a designation; some were not. The Committee's hard work and
face to face contacts resulted in the designations we have now. The initial
letter used did not get a good response. The Committee thought it was time to
revisit the letter to see if it could be revised and sent out to the potential
applicants. Property owner participation is needed because a designation is
voluntary. The letter is good at breaking the ice, but it does not compare to the
face to face contact Committee Vice -Chair Don Graybill has pursued.
Committee Members Pamela Williams and Thomas Mortensen requested a
copy of the letter and the unofficial list. Ms. Williams inquired as to how the
Committee decides who will go to which location. Committee Chair Leslie
Deane Roth responded that she needed to develop a campaign. Committee
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Member Kim Housken provided a brief history for the benefit of the new
Committee Members. This Committee was formed about 10 years ago. The
first job as a working committee was to develop an unofficial prospect list.
There was no consultant that performed a survey. The Committee got
information from the Historical Society of Palm Desert and the Riverside
County Historic Survey, which was done in 1983. The Committee worked off
forms that they had completed. The Committee started digging in old
newspapers and examined old records trying to find out what was of historic
value in our city. It took a long time, a lot of hard work, and it has been a slow
process to finally get designations in Palm Desert. There are 7. The
Committee started with buildings owned by City of Palm Desert and the Fire
Station on El Paseo. The Committee moved on to Shadow Mountain Golf
Course. Ms. Housken suggested that Suzanne Cicchini, Recording Secretary,
send the new Committee Members a link to the Cultural Resources web site,
which is as follows: http://www.citvofr)almdesert.ora/index.asi)x?page=490
Committee Member Kim Housken commended Russell Grance, Director of
Building and Safety for featuring designations and many different resources
online. The Committee started working off a list they created and continued
adding to it. Committee Member Bob Pitchford is an architect. Mr. Pitchford
has the ability to look at a potential designation and have an idea of who
designed it. The former letter was spruced up and made a little more
informative. Committee Member Don Graybill has been really great about
going out and making contacts that led to designations such as the First
Church. Ms. Housken liked Committee Chair Leslie Deane Roth's idea that
they needed a campaign. This would be an appropriate Work Shop item. More
individual contacts and familiarity with the Ordinance is needed. This
Ordinance is also linked on the web site. Ms. Housken noted that once on
board this Committee, Committee Member K. Gary Olesen noticed how slowly
things can move along. It seems so easy to sign people up, but it really is not.
Committee Member K. Gary Olesen asked if the letter had been sent out yet.
Mr. Grance responded that the letter had not been sent. Everyone will need to
approve the letter. The next step is a campaign, or a new top ten to focus on.
The letter will be sent and we will see what is generated. Committee Chair
Leslie Deane Roth suggested focusing on the exact mechanism of how the
campaign will work. Familiarity with the items on the unofficial list is important
because some things on the list don't exist anymore. Mayor Weber expressed
that she is very grateful to our two new members for agreeing to be on the
Committee. Committee Vice -Chair Don Graybill thought Mayor Weber was the
Committee Liaison. Mayor Weber clarified that she was technically not the
liaison. She noted that she is just a visitor from the City, and she is really
grateful that the Committee changed their meeting hours so she could
participate. Mayor Weber and Committee Vice -Chair Don Graybill are both on
the Board of the Historical Society of Palm Desert. Committee Member Kim
Housken was on the Board and K. Gary Olesen is still going to the Historical
Society. Mayor Weber expressed that we clearly are all very interested in the
history of our City and that she is very grateful and thanked everyone for
working on this. She requested that if there is anything she can do to help, to
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please let her know. Committee Vice -Chair Don Graybill thanked Mayor
Weber.
Committee Member K. Gary Olesen thought that the Committee should focus
on a certain number of designations at a time. If all 150 responded, this
Committee would be overwhelmed. Russell Grance, Director of Building and
Safety concurred. Last time, the top 13 were selected. Assess the feedback.
The best attack is to take it in little bunches. Committee Chair Leslie Deane
Roth wanted the potential designation candidate to know the reason why their
property was selected; it improves the connection to the designation.
X. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. REPORT: DON GRAYBILL — SITE VISIT RESULTS — POSSIBLE FUTURE
DESIGNATIONS
Committee Vice -Chair Don Graybill reported that he stopped by the First
Church/Center for Spiritual Living, Palm Desert to discuss the plaque location.
The plaque is located right above Mr. Henderson's site plaque. It's on a nice
smooth surface. Committee Vice -Chair Don Graybill floated the idea of
considering a potential designation of the Cross. Discussion commenced, but
no application has been filed and no action took place.
Committee Member Kim Housken discovered that the tree at the corner of
Portola and Highway 111, address: 73980 Highway 111 was owned by the
Saini brothers. The address of the owners is listed as the address of the
property. She checked with the City of Palm Desert and the trees are in an
easement. The land owner is in charge of the tree trimming and watering. Ms.
Housken inquired if someone was going to look into the 76 ball at the 76 Gas
Station. Committee Member Don Graybill volunteered to look into it. He
contacted the owner. The current owner's father used to own it. He received a
handsome offer for the property. The owner was deciding whether he would
accept it or not. The sphere would be passed to the new owner. The current
owner did not want a designation of the ball at this time. No information was
available as to whether the property would continue as a gas station.
Discussion commenced about the 76 sphere and touched on how important
landmarks like that can be. Committee Chair Leslie Deane Roth commented
on whether the plaque might be re -designed. She was reminded that quite a lot
of deliberations and discussions commenced during the design of the plaque.
It was a special project designed by our very own Committee Member, Bob
Pitchford. The design was approved by the City Council.
Committee Member Don Graybill mentioned that one can easily look up
information about each of the designations on the City of Palm Desert website.
There is a nice map and many different resources to look at. Discussion
commenced about ideas to provide information at designation locations. Mr.
Graybill noted that there was some discussion by the Arts in Public Places
Commission about the potential of a cell phone application that works with art
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installations to provide information about each piece. Perhaps this might work
with the designation plaques. Information about each designation location
could be provided. Committee Member Kim Housken noted that it goes hand
in hand with the book the City of Palm Desert produced, Palm Desert Art and
Architecture. It features both of the things the Committee considers to be
significant. Some properties have not been designated yet and there is art
work. A great tie in! Russell Grance, Director of Building and Safety
suggested an interactive map, similar to the website. Click on it, another
window could open up and provide a condensed history of the site. Mr.
Grance will check with Deborah Schwartz about the possibilities of tying into
that. Discussion commenced about potential designations, but some property
owners are not quite ready to commit to an application at this time.
Mr. Grance reported on the Miles Bates house located at 73697 Santa Rosa
Way. Martin Alvarez, Economic Development Director, City of Palm Desert,
told him that the property is on the list of properties to be dispersed and sold
by the State of California Department of Finance. The parcel is L shaped.
They would like to create another parcel off of the larger piece, for expansion
of the senior center. A new lot line adjustment will create a parcel which has
the Miles Bates house on it, and existing apartments in back. Staff considered
if the property would be more attractive for purchase if the apartments were
demolished. It was discussed and decided that the demolition of the
apartments would be left to a future owner. Mr. Alvarez mentioned that there
are people associated with the architect of record that may be interested in
purchasing the property. The fate of the property is unknown. The purchaser
will have to be the successful bidder and purchase the property. We will then
have a new owner to discuss a landmark designation with. A discussion
commenced regarding how unique the Miles Bates house is. It has a butterfly
roof and is a very interesting property.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made by Committee Vice Chair Don Graybill to adjourn the
meeting. Committee Member Kim Housken seconded the Motion. Motion
carried by 7-0 vote with Roth, Olesen, Graybill, Housken, Pitchford,
Mortensen and Williams voting AYE; none dissenting.
Committee Chair Don Graybill adjourned the meeting at 9:45 a.m.
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Suzanne Cicchini, Recording Secretary
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