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SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
PALM DESERT MARKETING COMMITTEE
MINUTES
Tuesday, February 5, 2019 — 3:00 p.m.
Administrative Conference Room
73-510 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260
I. CALL TO ORDER
Rolf Hoehn called the meeting to order at 3:02 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Rolf Hoehn, Chair
Bruce Nation
Jeffrey Norman
Ray Rodriguez
Erin Scott
Members Absent:
Franchesca Forrer
Staff /Others Present:
Thomas Soule, Tourism & Marketing Manager
Martin Alvarez, Economic Development Director
Barbara Blythe, Tourism & Marketing Specialist
Vanessa Mager, Management Analyst
Heather Chernicki, Office Specialist 1
Ed Cohen, IdeaPeddler
Andrea Foertsch, IdeaPeddler
Maggie Montez, Lee & Associates
Jan Hulahan, JW Marriott Desert Springs
Jane Stanley, Recording Secretary
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF MAY 22, 2018
Jeffrey Norman moved, by Minute Motion, to approve the minutes of the May 22, 2018,
meeting as presented. The motion was seconded by Ray Rodriguez and carried by a 5-0
vote. (AYES: Nation, Norman, Rodriguez, Scott and Hoehn; NOES: None; ABSENT: Forrer)
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B. MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 5, 2017
Jeffrey Norman moved, by Minute Motion, to approve the minutes of the December 5, 2017,
meeting as presented. The motion was seconded by Bruce Nation and carried by a 5-0 vote.
(AYES: Nation, Norman, Rodriguez, Scott and Hoehn; NOES: None; ABSENT: Forrer)
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. SELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE -CHAIR FOR 2019
Jeffrey Norman moved, by Minute Motion, to select Rolf Hoehn as Chair for 2019. The motion
was seconded by Bruce Nation and carried by a 4-0-1 vote. (AYES: Nation, Norman,
Rodriguez and Scott; NOES: None; ABSENT: Forrer, ABSTAIN: Hoehn)
Rolf Hoehn moved, by Minute Motion, to select Franchesca Forrer as Vice -Chair for 2019.
The motion was seconded by Ray Rodriguez and carried by a 5-0 vote. (AYES: Nation,
Norman, Rodriguez, Scott and Hoehn; NOES: None; ABSENT: Forrer)
B. CONSIDERATION OF THE MARKETING COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULE
Thomas Soule noted that this item was discussed previously but there was not
a quorum to have a vote. He would like the Committee to meet more regularly
because there is more business to conduct with the new agency and new ad
campaign. If approved, the rest of the meetings this year would be in April,
June, August, October and December.
Ray Rodriguez asked if there would be a meeting in August, to which Mr. Soule
replied that the meeting would be cancelled that month if there isn't a quorum.
Meetings would still be at 3:00 p.m. the first Tuesday of the meeting month.
Erin Scott moved, by Minute Motion, to amend the Marketing Committee Bylaws to reflect
that henceforth the Committee will meet on the first Tuesday of every second month of the
fiscal year. The motion was seconded by Jeffrey Norman and carried by a 5-0 vote. (AYES:
Nation, Norman, Rodriguez, Scott and Hoehn; NOES: None; ABSENT: Forrer)
C. PRESENTATION OF PRELIMINARY MARKETING BUDGET
(This item was discussed after Item V. D. of the agenda.)
Mr. Soule introduced Ed Cohen from IdeaPeddler to discuss the plan for the
upcoming year.
Mr. Cohen reminded the Committee that IdeaPeddler's strategy was to listen to
what is going on, revise the "So Worth It" campaign, which has been done with
a gentler tone, and now it's time for research. He and Andrea met with the CVB
today and were able to get the research they have done. Combining that with
the data Cimin just presented, they will hand that off to their researcher to go do
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focus groups. In early spring they will package it together and present it to the
Committee. The researcher will also create the creative brief before starting on
next year's creative. Around the beginning of summer, they will have two
different options that fit where we're headed. The reveal will be towards the end
of summer, with photo shooting in November, and deliverables out in January
and February. They want to make sure the creative aligns properly and layers
with the CVB's dollars where appropriate.
Mr. Soule noted that the projected cost is included in the preliminary budget,
which is the only addition. Some of the research cost will be covered by extra
dollars from this year's budget. The net increase for next year is about $51,000.
Everything else will remain pretty much the same. The major shift will be this
project for the first half of the year. IdeaPeddler proposed and additional
$35,000 for four seasonal photography shoots. There is no funding for market
research next year, but there is funding for Arrivalist tracking.
Mr. Hoehn asked about ad or concept testing. Mr. Cohen responded that there
is no plan for that, but an addendum to the proposal would be for the same
researcher to do that. So the new creative would be based on the upfront
research and their expertise.
Mr. Hoehn said the City should consider doing additional research to confirm
the assumptions since so much money is being spent up front.
Mr. Cohen said that they want to drill down the CVB's research and see how it
affects Palm Desert to prioritize the right assets.
Ray Rodriguez was surprised that the golf web page came in lower than
restaurants, so he is supportive of doing the research.
Erin Scott agreed that the City should spend money where people are best
served. Mr. Hoehn added that we can see how Palm Desert fits in or is
distinguished from the rest of the Valley.
Mr. Cohen stated the goal for next year as far a creative is appropriately
layering the media budget to the CVB's budget. The CVB will do the heavy
lifting in certain areas, and we will drill down to make conversions to make
every dollar move more efficiently, tied to some piece of data. Right now we are
setting up the infrastructure with the creative on top.
Mr. Hoehn asked the difference between the local co-op and the hotel co-op
funds. Mr. Soule answered by saying the hotel co-op funds have a very specific
purpose. They are used to help hotels acquire group business during the off-
season. There is more leeway in the local co-ops, such as helping someone get
an ad in a target market to extend their marketing budget, and it includes the
CVB co-ops.
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Jeffrey Norman moved, by Minute Motion, to recommend approval of the Preliminary
2019/2020 Marketing Budget to the City Council as presented. The motion was seconded by
Erin Scott and carried by a 5-0 vote. (AYES: Nation, Norman, Rodriguez, Scott and Hoehn;
NOES: None; ABSENT: Forrer)
D. QUARTERLY UPDATE ON AD CAMPAIGN PERFORMANCE BY
IDEAPEDDLER
(This item was discussed after Item V. B. of the agenda.)
Cimin Cohen joined the meeting by phone. Mr. Soule reminded the Committee
that the Arrivalist program is now being used to track the effectiveness of the
campaign. Cimin will report on the initial batch of data.
Cimin stated that the methodology is to pixel an impression from the paid and
owned media channels, such as the website, emails and social network. This is
the starting point to track. The next point is movement of the person into the
City of Palm Desert. If they stay for a period of two hours or more it is counted
as an arrival. Starting at the end of October there is an average of 12.2 daily
arrivals in October and November, and 18.3 in December. Outbrain was the
content seeding partner and they were flooding the market with a lot of
impressions to get more clicks. IdeaPeddler has moved to another content
seeding partner, which has been much better. Overall, Arrivalist has tracked
15M impressions, 1,260 arrivals, and a .08 arrivals per thousand. Arrivals per
thousand means the number of people who arrive based on a thousand points
of exposure or impressions. Removing Outbrain's spikes we are at a .21
arrivals per thousand. The benchmark is .09 for a blended look at all categories,
so we are greatly exceeding the benchmark. Fifty-one percent of the arrivals
were first attributed to an Adara pixel, so it is the most efficient partner.
Adara was originally targeting nationwide markets because they wanted to give
a wide a range of possibilities for the most likely converter. All other media
targeted California. Based on results, Adara has been scaled back to California.
Some interesting data is that Seattle, San Francisco and Portland were 9
percent of the impressions but 24 percent of the arrivals, so those are markets
to be explored in the future. Our target markets have not yet reached saturation.
We are still exceeding the arrivals per thousand benchmark for the drive
markets with Los Angeles being the largest percentage.
Next was data for the point in the planning process in which consumers engage
with different media outlets. For Adara, the days out from arrival time people are
engaging with media is much greater than Trip Advisor. Adara is sourcing 98%
of the leads 60 to 1 day out from arrival, with 26% being 31 to 60 days out. That
means we are more likely converting someone who would not have otherwise
traveled to the destination. For Trip Advisor 40% of those reached arrived
between 1 to 7 days later, indicating they decided to travel to Palm Desert
specifically and are looking for more service -oriented content, such as places to
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eat and things to do. Thomas and Cimin have discussed changing some of the
creative to have a wide variety of activities for Trip Advisor because they have
already made the decision to come here.
Mr. Soule added that this is valuable information because he didn't know where
people were being hit in the planning funnel. To be much more strategic visitors
can be pinpointed, depending on which channel they use.
With relatively small numbers, people are not relying on our site for hotel
information. Golf, Top 10 Things to Do, Activities and Shopping are website
entry points that are converting to arrivals.
Mr. Hoehn commented that this is great data. Mr. Soule added that the
research assisted in getting out of Outbrain quickly so that funds will not be
wasted on useless impressions.
With Committee concurrence, the Ad Campaign Update was received and filed.
VI. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None.
VII. OLD BUSINESS
None.
VIII. REPORTS FROM CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS
No report.
IX. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Chair
Mr. Hoehn reported that the CVB has had some great accomplishments over the last
three years, including a new website that is producing good results.
Regarding the Airport Commission, he stated that a record was set last year with 2.3M
passengers going in and out of the airport. There are new airlines, services and
destinations. The ticketing area will be enlarged and renovated, and will completed
next season. Following that, the rental car facility will be expanded and will include a
new building and garage so they can move out of the baggage claim area. New chairs
will be installed in the Bono concourse.
At the Tennis Gardens, the National Pickleball Championship was very successful last
October. It was the first of a five-year run at the facility. There were 2,200 participants
over 9 days and several thousand matches. The purpose of moving the Championship
from Arizona was to build the sport for the participants as well as for spectators.
The big event, the BNP Paribas, is in a few weeks.
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This Saturday the Dr. George Car Show will be on the east side of the Tennis Gardens
campus. Over 1,000 cars are registered.
B. Committee Members
Erin Scott reported that the new entrance for The Living Desert is open. Attendance is
flat year -over -year. WildLights was successful, but there were traffic issues on Portola.
Brew At The Zoo is this Saturday and will include food trucks and thirty beer and wine
vendors. The annual gala is on March 2. Groundbreaking for the Australia habitat will
be after spring break and should be done by the end of the year.
Jeffrey Norman reported that the Gerald R. Ford Founders Room has reopened and is
absolutely stunning. The Women's Leadership Council recently raised over $285,000
for the education division. The Jersey Boys continue to set records, but the Wizard of
Oz did not. There is lots of variety at the McCallum.
Ray Rodriguez reported that there are a lot of restaurants in town. The Cafe's
expansion is working out well and the Cork Tree is doing well for upscale dining.
Bruce Nation reported that Desert Willow has a record several months. They have sold
over 1,000 Platinum Cards and have stopped selling them. Average Daily Rate (ADR)
for golf is up almost $8.00 over last year. Music and Dining events are selling out and
the outing business is ahead of last year. The course is in amazing shape. The new
Superintendent has cleaned up a lot of the desert waste areas.
C. Staff
Martin Alvarez is looking at 2019 as a transformative year. There won't be large
construction projects, but several resort/mixed use projects will be coming through the
planning process. Four properties on El Paseo will undergo large-scale
redevelopment. The 350-room resort hotel, 50 timeshare villas and a large resort surf
amenity is under review for the Desert Willow pads. It will take the remainder of this
year to get through the planning process. The US Post Office on El Paseo and Portola
will be relocating. The City would like to keep them in that corridor.
The former Rosewood Hotel project location entitlements have expired and the owner
has full control of the site after a legal dispute with the developer. A new developer is
interested in the site.
X. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
A. Visitor Services Reports
Mr. Hoehn noted that the Social Media engagement rates are up. One of the CVB's
goals is to focus more on the engagement rate as opposed to the number of
impressions.
B. Maggie Montez, Lee & Associates
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Mr. Soule invited Maggie to update the Committee on her area of expertise.
Maggie started by saying she will give an overview of the commercial real estate in
Palm Desert. It has been an interesting slog for ten to eleven years. The past three to
four years it has been getting continually stronger. There is great news in some
sectors and still moving along in others. The different components are industrial, office
and retail. The strongest sector is the industrial sector, which has less than a four
percent vacancy factor. There isn't much available when there is a five percent
vacancy factor. In Palm Desert proper there are about 2.6M square feet of industrial,
103,000 square feet is vacant. It is interesting because no one has built for ten years
and there are not a lot of plans to build. The cost to build is high. Until we can get
industrial rents to about $1.15 it doesn't make sense to build. Right now we're at about
$0.85 - $0.90. Over the next year or two we'll probably see some developers realizing
that if they start to entitle projects now by the time they came out of the ground in two
years there will probably be a lot of demand. A lot of this is at the Monterey and Dinah
Shore area. Most of the vacancy is at Desert Business Park, which is across from the
entrance to Del Webb Sun City on Washington Street. This is one of the few areas that
has space left. They are big spaces, 5,000 square feet, which doesn't work for the
small business. That's the kind of space (small) that we're struggling with.
Then there is the office world. Before the recession we had about 500,000 square feet
of office built in the Palm Desert/Rancho Mirage area. During the good years that
same area absorbed about 50,000 square feet a year. We had financing available,
buildings started going up not following the old rule of having to be 50 percent pre -
leased. We were leasing at $2.25 per square foot, triple net, and giving maybe $10 per
square foot in tenant improvements. That world has changed. We are at a thirteen
percent vacancy factor so we have about a 2.6M square feet of office. In Palm Desert
that means about 340,000 square feet is vacant. We have also been hit with
technology, allowing people to work from home. Real estate companies and banks
that used to take 4,000 to 6,000 square feet are now fine with 3,000 square feet. So
that complicates things a little more. Our average rent is $1.60 modified gross, which
means combining the base rent and triple net. Our base rent before the recession was
about $2.25, and we're at about $1.10 - $1.15 now. Spaces stay on the market an
average of 12.8 months. Our smart landlords realize that, and when they have a good
size tenant who is expiring there are concessions still being thrown in order to keep
them. There are a couple of things that have been really good for office in Palm
Desert. Eisenhower Hospital has moved all of their administrative services off of their
Rancho Mirage campus, and about 90 percent has landed at Point Monterey Business
Park, on Monterey near Dinah Shore. With healthcare rules now, the hospital can
charge a facilities fee. Every time you go to the doctor's office on campus your bill will
contain an $85 facilities fee. That's the reason the hospitals are taking all the
administrative off of the campus and filling it all with doctor's offices. Point Monterey
Business Park and Village at University Park is the retail center at Cook and Gerald
Ford that was a condo project that was built as we collapsed. A number of the
buildings sat vacant for a long period of time. A company by the name of AFMA, an
insurance company that insures our veterans and their family based out of Reston,
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Virginia, came in and bought both the retail project and the office project. They also
bought Point Monterey Business Park. They will only buy concrete tilt up buildings
because they are long-term holders. The other thing they are able to do that other
office landlords aren't able to do is that they don't look at a deal just based on the five-
year lease term. For instance, another building they own is Desert Business Park and
Las Montanas by the entrance to Del Webb, where an advertising agency is going into
the Canyon Bank branch that's been vacant since 2008. It has to be gutted and the
vault removed. He has a five-year deal. Asking rents are $1.35 modified gross, and
they will do tenant improvement packages at that kind of rent where they're really not
making a return in their first five years because they have this long-term hold. For the
other office landlords in Palm Desert, that space needs to be absorbed and they need
to be off the market. We are close to it; we have two suites left at Village at University
Park. We have a total of 6,000 square feet and we're close to getting that filled and off
the market. AFMA has been hugely aggressive, purchasing a lot of square footage in
Palm Desert.
Then there is the retail world — that's the good, bad, and ugly. We have a 7.25 percent
vacancy factor, but we have 6.3M square feet of retail, which means we have 460,000
square feet vacant. We've had basically no net absorption in 2018. While we have
filled 60,000 square feet over at Desert Crossing with Bob's Furniture and Five Below,
Golfsmith vacated the old Home Depot, so we've just had a tradeoff. Our grocery re -
anchored neighborhood centers are good and stable. We're at about that five percent
healthy vacancy factor and our rents are at or ten percent below what they were in
2008.
El Paseo has a number of things going on. Some big retailers are migrating from the
west end of the street to The Gardens. We are strengthening the middle of the street,
which is good for the east end. We used to do no leasing during the season at all, but
for the last two years some retailers are willing to take the risk. We gave them some
abated rent for summer, because it they haven't see the whole season, we want to
make sure they survive the summer. A container brewpub would like to put a truck
container on El Paseo, maybe on the Union Bank site on a pop-up basis during
Coachella. This is a trend in San Diego and Berkeley and other cities. This has been a
fast overview.
Mr. Hoehn asked Mr. Rodriguez about the restaurant world and a sign for "86 Kitchen
and Pub" at the Wolfgang Puck site on El Paseo, to which he responded that he heard
it's a relatively inexperienced operator that is well financed. He added that he and his
colleagues have a concern with the amount of restaurant space. The waits we used to
enjoy during the peak periods are gone, which is not good for the operators. Country
clubs are doing a much better job of keeping their members on campus. Hotels also
do this. Additionally, supermarkets have created deli atmospheres and take-outs. All
this has impacted freestanding restaurateurs. It's not an extremely healthy industry. He
gets worried that at some point we're going to lose a lot of good people because they
will sell and leave.
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Ms. Montez added that the Wolfgang Puck location was vacant for a long time
because it's expensive and a big space. The Colonnade has small suites, where New
Balance and Savory Spice Shop are located. The suites are 1,200 — 1,300 square
feet. She was getting $3.25 per square foot plus triple nets, and asking rent is now
$2.45. They do the deals for about $2.25. The west end has not incorporated that
philosophy.
Mr. Rodriguez said his thinking on El Paseo is that you either need something small
that you can charge a lot for, or something very small that you can do volume on.
Mr. Norman said he gets asks all the time where someone might go for dinner after a
show.
Responding to a question, Ms. Montez said the most exciting thing is downtown Palm
Springs, where they have done a phenomenal job in retail regeneration. The lease for
the first Chick-Fil-A was signed this week at another project at Monterey and 1-10
called Monterey Crossing. The River in Rancho Mirage is a big challenge. It was
purchased by investors who just wanted to get their visas. They made the mistake of
playing tough when things fell apart and not working with the tenants.
The grocery business now is Whole Foods/Amazon, and Walmart. No one else is
expanding. There are some big entertainment and fun players looking at the Portola
interchange, something like bowling or golf.
XI. NEXT MEETING DATE — April 2, 2019
XII. ADJOURNMENT
With Committee concurrence, the meeting adjourned at 4:26 p.m.
Jane Stanley, Recording Secretary
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