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Home My WebLink About2013-07-08 CSC Regular Meeting Agenda PacketCITY OF PALM DESERT CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEEE AGENDA MONDAY, JULY 8, 2013 — 2:00 P.M. ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCE ROOM 73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM DESERT, CA 92260 I. CALL TO ORDER 11. ROLL CALL III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Any person wishing to discuss any item not otherwise on the Agenda may address the Citizens' Sustainability Committee at this point by giving his/her name and address for the record. Remarks shall be limited to a maximum of five minutes unless additional time is authorized by the Committee. Because the Brown Act does not allow the Citizens' Sustainability Committee to take action on items not on the Agenda, members will not enter into discussion with speakers but briefly respond or instead refer the matter to staff for report and recommendation at a future Citizen's Sustainability Committee meeting. This is also the time and place for any person who wishes to comment on Agenda items. It should be noted that at Citizen's Sustainability Committee discretion, these comments may be deferred until such time on the agenda as the item is discussed. Remarks shall be limited to a maximum of five minutes unless additional time is authorized by the Citizens' Sustainability Committee. Reports and documents relating to each of the following items listed on the agenda, including those received following posting/distribution, are on file in the Office of the Department of Community Development and are available for public inspection during normal business hours, Monday-Friday, 8:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m., 73-510 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260, telephone (760) 346-0611, Ext. 484. IV. CONSENT CALENDAR ALL MATTERS LISTED ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE ROLL CALL VOTE. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE OR AUDIENCE REQUEST ITEMS BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND ACTION UNDER SECTION V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER, OF THE AGENDA. POSTED AGENDA CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE JULY 8, 2013 A. MINUTES of the Citizens' Sustainability Committee meeting of April 29, 2013. Rec: Approve as presented. Action: V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER None VI. NEW BUSINESS None VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS None VIII. OLD BUSINESS A. UPDATE ON SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAGS Rec: Receive and file. Action: B. UPDATE ON DE-ASPHALTIFICATION Rec: Receive and file. Action: IX. REPORTS AND REMARKS A. Economic Development Director 1. Desert Cities Energy Partnership Update B. Committee Members 2 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013V1genda\7-8-13 a.docx POSTED AGENDA CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE X. ADJOURNMENT JULY 8, 2013 I hereby certify under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California, that the foregoing agenda for the Citizens' Sustainability Committee was posted on the City Hall bulletin board not less than 72 hours prior to the meeting. Dated on this 3ra day of July, 2013. . �` 4..�-.ku.- Monica O'Reilly, Recording Secr ry Please contact the Planning Department, 73510 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260, (760) 346-0611, for assistance with access to any of the agenda, materials, or participation at the meeting. 3 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013WgendaV-8-13 a.docx CITY OF PALM DESERT CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMITTEEE PRELIMINARY MINUTES MONDAY, APRIL 29, 2013 — 2:00 P.M. ADMININSTRATIVE CONFERENCE ROOM 73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM L}ESERT, CA 92260 I. CALL TO ORDER Chair Robert Leo called the meeting to 0 II. ROLL CALL Present: Member Tommy Edwards Member Eric Freed Member Dean Gatons Member Gregory Gritters at 2: Member Bruce K��i� Member David 1VC�irhes� ti; Member Sus�� tosenbe� � Member RaI��Raya ,£ � Vice Chair Cf�^�� an�fi� � ,;. Chair R�bert Le` .._.: 4.�` � �' p.m. mber David Koller �ber Luke Taylor V�n Tanner, Court��memh�� John Wohlmuth, Cit��Manager Laur��laian, Dire��d�� of Community Development Mark Gr�e�wood, l?i�ector of Public Works Ruth Ann�N%pr��„�ionomic Development Manager Tony Bagato,�`;P��ricipal Planner Missy Nale, Assistant Planner Lisa Ream, Recycling Technician Monica O'Reilly, Recording Secretary III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS None PRELIMINARY MINUTES CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE APRIL 29, 2013 IV. CONSENT CALENDAR A. MINUTES of the Citizens' Sustainability Committee meeting of March 20, 2013. Rec: Approve as presented. Member Dean Gatons noted that the change of inember on both subcommittees was not mentioned in the minutes. �� Upon a motion by Gatons, Sustainability Committee, the Co Members Koller and Taylor ABSENT. V. VI. NEW BUSINESS ELECTION of Vice Chai vote of the Citizens' i as amended with By Minute Motion, motion carried unanima� VII. VIII. TTEE ON SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAGS Ms (�tissy Nale, As�istant Planner, reported that the subcommittee decided to meet �tu` h the Pla�#ic Bag Subcommittee of the Palm Springs Sustainability , ,� � Commi�si€��. Sh� ��id Palm Springs suggested an agreement on terms of a proposed ordir�ar�ce. She explained that if the subcommittees of the two cities can get togeth�t and come to terms with what they would like proposed; the two cities could then introduce a model ordinance to the Coachella Valley Association of Governments (CVAG) as a valley-wide approach. Ms. Nale mentioned that Member Freed sent a survey to Ms. Kate Castle, Chair of the Palm Springs subcommittee, and they have requested a meeting. She noted representatives from the two cities are meeting April 30 at 3:00 p.m. in Palm Springs. On May 1 at 9:00 a.m., the two cities will give a presentation to CVAG staff inembers in Palm Springs. as Vice Chairperson. The 2 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013\Minutes\4-29-13 min.docx second by Raya, an , � � nsent Calendar v►�� ` a�� : E PRELIMINARY MINUTES CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE APRIL 29, 2013 Member Gatons inquired if the Citizens' Sustainability Committee would receive a copy of the Committee's position statement regarding single-use plastic bags as mentioned in the previous meeting. Ms. Nale replied that she would email the statement to the Committee. Member Gatons commented that they discussed Assembly Bill 158 (AB 158). Now there is Senate Bill 405 (SB 405), and asked staff if they know the difference between the two bills. Ms. Nale responded that she has not researched Member Gatons also commented that potentially goes into effect in 2015. Member Eric Freed communicated; �Ftat California that are covered by plastic �rag guarantee that a bill will pass. For that re< on themselves, which is what Palm Desert Member Freed stated that th�, decision points, with the poli�� subcommittee me�t� they higt � information to �"�� :'n Palrr policy that bc�t;�� ies cot�. '� hare Member Ra��sked if czt�`r cities we T ed that last week, and there aK� 72 cities ir� the State of ordina�c��. He said thaf t�iey cannot st�t�� rr��ny cities have taken the issue s dt��rig. ittee r€��li�ed all 72 cities had eight � .-, li�� the same. He said that at the tc��' ei�,ht points, and forwarded the m an ef��irt to work together to draft a ; valley-wide. to the April 30t" meeting. invited CVAG staff and other cities to SUBCOMMITTEE ON DE-ASPHALTIFICATION M��Fa�e reported ��t the subcommittee met and recommended revised parking ratios " thousan ;��quare feet of building area, using maximums rather than �� minimurr "tc2 fo��l to the Cit Council Zonin U date Stud Session in Ma . She said�t�'�� I��'ony Bagato,�Principal Planner, would take the information o the May stuel}� session to find out if the City Council wants to include the recommendations with the Zoning Ordinance update. Member Bruce Kassler noted that he did the parking counts for the area where Red Lobster is located, and that those counts were done before they opened. Ms. Nale said that she went back to do parking counts after Red Lobster opened. 3 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013\Minutes\4-29-13 min.docx PRELIMINARY MINUTES CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE APRIL 29, 2013 Member Kassler added that the counts were also done before the Tilted Kilt re- opened. Ms. Nale stated that the parking lot subcommittee asked the Citizens' Sustainability Committee to take action on the following items to determine recommendations to the City Council. The first item is whether to require at least 50 percent of the parking lot be paved with impervious surfaces, having a solar reflective index (SRI) of 29 or higher, and/or an open-grid paving system. She noted that impervious areas under open cover such as„�ri�e-thrus are included in the overall calculation. Chair Leo asked if they are putting d disadvantage. Ms. Nale said drive-thrus are allowed Councilmember Van Tanner commenf pharmacies; however, the requirement Mr. John Wohlmuth, City M Ms. Nale responded that it rel surface; it is an in.,n tion of heat. �" r�� . , .�;. Mr. Wohl Ms. Nale con�r�t�: : WohlmutF blic Works, to of ma��ial used on an impervious h� �naterial is of sun energy and if i�,�t�cludes cc�lflt�red asphalt. number that allows for the use of N� ale if they met with Mr. Mark Greenwood, Director of out t the cost increase would be. Ms ylaian respo ° d that by the time the issue gets to the City Council, staff will b��i� a couple �%�recommendations. One recommendation would come from the Su�t��abilit�°�;Committee based on sustainability concerns. Another recommen�a�t��;�tiould come from merchants and developers, who might have opposing interests. Member Freed said the subcommittee aimed to establish a prescriptive method. He stated basically a developer could use any material, as long as the SRI is 29 or higher. Mr. Wohlmuth asked what the SRI of asphalt is. the freeway at a the�'��e drive-thrus ��banks and h�v��no impact. ked what:t�� SRI 29 relates to. 4 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013\Minutes\4-29-13 min.docx PRELIMINARY MINUTES CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMIlTEE APRIL 29, 2013 Member Freed replied the SRI for asphalt is 6. A mirror is 100 and polished concrete is approximately 39. Mr. Bagato asked Member Freed if he is familiar with any other jurisdictions that are using SRI ratings. Member Freed responded that it is part of the voluntary measures for CALGreen Building Code. w�:� Mr. Bagato clarified that they are only voluntary ;��`��ures and not required measures. ,,, , Mr. Freed replied they are not required Francisco has mandatory measures. _ Mr. Wohlmuth asked if there is a Member Freed replied yes, and the man shows Mr. Wohlmuth commented th� �"��'�,, thinking different materials. _ ��` � W. Chair Leo comr which is going they should altc years? Is th�t plans? He s��E how to get tl enu�rc��ent. C City cou res, ar�� entioned that San �� '�� . � �� , �� l�the SRIs �� .� �� so have that information. �intenance and higher costs for iuni,c�ted that th� �� re ��"°`�� ng�' a perception and outlook, ,o tsf�� while �, ;;,.� ,�'�he su��r`nmittee discussed how long ry people t�move � rds this. Will it be a period of three or five u6: ity going �t� require �, nges as soon as the developer submits d it is irn �rtant for tt�fr � it to move in this direction, and asked � . ,� � Y ��> m��ck��nf� �� und � tand that this is beneficial for the �a��.�o��express�c� �t�t�t��this is where education comes in, but he �. ; Cif�t 5hould have a goal. The recommendations are goals that M"ernber Kassler cc�rl�mente�t° that the same types of questions were asked years ag� k�e;#ore there w�� requirements for dual pane glazing, and thicker insulation for w�l��nd attics�;�e said most of the materials had a price tag associated with them with �;benef��',�ince everything was complied with. He stated he thinks of it as furtherm� d��relopment requirements that are in place today. Member Gatons inquired if there are changes being made to the Whole Foods parking lot. Mr. Wohlmuth stated that there are, but that currently there is no ordinance requiring the developer to change the materials used for the parking lot. 5 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013\Minutes\4•29•13 min.docx PRELIMINARY MINUTES CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE APRIL 29, 2013 Mr. Bagato added that the developer is reconfiguring the parking lot and driveways to current requirements. He noted that staff worked with the developer to change the perimeter landscaping from grass to desertscape. In addition, the developer will be required to add a water retention chamber as part of the Water Quality Management Plan (WQMP) under State law, which was not a requirement before. Member Gritters asked if trees would help increase the Member Freed responded that the way it is written or more) would need to be either SRI 29 (or ;�� .A . shaded by trees or by overhangs. He said th��ti ended as possible to achieve cooling down th� siie. Mr. Wohlmuth asked how shade is cal Ms. Nale replied that is currently pro�+ trees or carports covering part of the calculation. _..__ Member Freed stated that if t��y faflo� baseline at a certain time of day�� He be pruned back pr�,�t�far and the�°no Following dis�u�i�on ak Ms. Nale � ��#inued w proposed b� „ �velope basis She st��.th�� s iz��t��ap riateC�:�� r�� :�t �e��t� 50 igher, ane� � � ing spaces �ri�� or grouping d �r� provide moi o�� provid� ard, it is calculated from a vith trees is that they can �i��'athe tree��rid surfacing materials used in parking lots, t,: �� er prese�i#ation. She stated that a design layout ��c�uld still be; reviewed by staff on as case-by-case ��`� �tte�� discussed that parking lots should be ay-to-day��and not seasonal use. As they mentioned �nt of the onsite parking spaces must have an SRI of 29 �,�de requirements for one shade tree for every three Id b��r�moved. (This allows for landscape design flexibility �hade ��ees in larger planter areas where they can grow `.hade, and require less pruning. It also allows for the use of de cover). Member E��ioted that trees in parking lots do not grow well. However, this approach woi:[I�allow for the professionals to encourage new innovations. Councilmember Tanner commented that there must be some trees that grow well in a parking lot. Member Gritters interjected that City's landscape staff is very knowledgeable. Staff also established a manual and guidelines for the type of tree and size of the tree planter that promotes healthy growth. � alf the site (50 percent permeable pavers, or write it to be as open as ��arate category: ff you have `al�; F'�.=is not included in the overall 6 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013\Minutes\4-29-13 min.docx PRELIMINARY MINUTES CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE APRIL 29, 2013 Ms. Nale continued that the subcommittee also discussed infill space. She said if a center has 50 percent of parking spaces underutilized, the property owner would be able to infill unused parking spaces with 20-30 percent leasable space, depending on proposed use and parking requirements. Staff would evaluate proposed infill and parking requirements on a case-by-case basis. Member Gritters asked if the situation normally is where the developer designs less parking, but the ordinance requires the developer to �dd more. Ms. Nale replied that is not typically the case. Member Gritters clarified that typically the Ms. Nale said yes. ore parking spaces. Ms. Aylaian mentioned that some oi t�i�e big dev�lopments, sucf� as Walmart, wanted more parking than what was r��uired. Ht�wever, on a day-fi� day basis for people that are doing small projects; .t�teya waxnt to be required to have less parking when they expand or.�dd on. � Ms. Moore stated that it is irrip�rtan� �o talk ta� ��arious developers about the concept. She noted that some o��the an��tenar�ts in bigger centers own their own parking field , � �� Member Ray�.'�ommen��.d that h� Francisco, �nd�they do nc��have lari cities utilize �rnaller parkir�g lots, and lots. _ ' ��d,.'' ` .. spent time in San Diego and San rking lots with a lot of space. The two do it very creatively to achieve smaller �` Itil�oor� m;e�tion�c�;that it has a lot to do with the scale and density of the a, property �ralues,' "ar�d the return on investment. Larger urban cities look at perties differ�rit;l�r and jump through more hoops. M�m4��r Raya inter��ted that he thinks the developers in Palm Desert should jump'thrc�ugh hoop� tcio. Ms. Moor��'r�m��t�ed that she is not arguing and that these are good ideas; however, sh�' i� the person that advocates for and talks about businesses. She stated she is not a fan of asphalt, but feels that it is important to hear from all impacted parties when making a major decision. � Member Gritters commented that it seems the City would be in a good balance with businesses in having an ordinance for the maximum amount of parking and not the minimum. 7 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Commiriee�2013\Minutes\4•29•13 min.docx PRELIMINARY MINUTES CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE � e�`��£ � inion of ffi E�;�\ .. � ��:� � ��` beli�� s�:�� alre Ms. Nale stated that during the May study session, staff will discuss changing the minimums to maximums with an exceptions clause. The developer would have to prove their case that they need more parking for their business by providing some type of parking study. Member Freed mentioned that he has learned over the years that certain retailers like Walmart and Home Depot buy more area than they need. They will take 15 to 20 acres for their site, the store itself will k� three acres, and the remaining acres are paved over to eliminate any ma,�. "� nce headaches. The stores know they are over parking the site, but �� hey want is the future opportunity to lease out. He said that it is�� ng what the Citizens' : � �� Sustainability Committee is discussing, sudder� ' ey a��' aying Palm Desert is a pro-development City. The City wants m„ usiness��ere, and we rather have more business than more asphalt q�5� , =°�"�� Ms. Nale conveyed that the parkin��;1��ordinance� ould allow��ting parking lots to stay in place. She said gen�I��y in „P�� Desert, an� emodel or renovation of 50 percent or less can st��s ��50 percent or more is being remodeled, it has to be brou�� up to currer'�� _� . Ms. Nale asked the Com� landscaping should affect the Chair Leo Member Fr.�ed'added the sun. Merrt�� ritters tit�t� tr��s' He s�tggeste� r�commendatian on �n C�i��r Leo asked t�� C to "�it� Council for t�i�;i Membe� � review an� 10-0 vote. APRIL 29, 2013 , shade covers, and rt of the recommendation. halt u�€�r cover would be cooler than surfaces in that the �ity'�` landscape book gives canopy sizes for that planning staff ask landscape staff to give a ,�; trees should be used. ;omrrrif�ee if there is a motion to take the recommendations r review and discussion. I to take the recommendations to the City Council for their Motion was seconded by Member Freed and carried by a Member Raya inquired if the recommendations for parking lots would go to the Planning Commission. Ms. Aylaian responded portions that involve changes to the zoning ordinance would go to the Planning Commission for their recommendation. 8 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013\Minutes\4-29-13 min.docx PRELIMINARY MINUTES CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE C. UPDATE ON OUTDOOR LIGHTING APRIL 29, 2013 Member Raya reported that he met with Ms. Nale, and he plans on giving a presentation at the next meeting. He asked if anyone wanted to go on a field trip to look at lights at four to five different sites. Member Kassler mentioned that he and John Greenwood took photographs of different centers in the City during the evening hours. He, said they gave Ms. Nale a spreadsheet with all the information. �� :. � �. Chair Leo and Vice Chair Langford volu Member Raya on May 16 at 7:30. Chair Leo asked Ms. Nale to send out like to go. IX. REPORTS AND REMARKS A. COMMITTEE MEMB Member Gatons thanked th� :�ify'� Desert. He mentioned his kids �i�d a to encourage kids ��oung age fic�,r Vice Cha�r Lan,c�ft�rd disc(��d that needed to �h��C temperat�'��s of d on the field trip with to find out ne else would ling te�,rr�. and the teachers of Palm '�able recy�ling project. It is wonderful s access to a thermal imaging camera, if t surfaces. Member Mourf��re�� k��,w t�e movie Bag It, which had a real impact on him� H�� spread�r��he wor� ��-�� , � �,�� Nk�imber Rosenb+�r� inq f; d what the Citizens' Sustainability Committee means ��,the City and t��City �� cil. What are their goals and what should they be f6��ng on? She �,,_ aske� what the difference between code, ordinance, and polic��i�_. Is the Corr�� tee making recommendations on policy or code changes? Ms. Nal� ` to the cod the recommendations for parking lots would be changes Ms. Aylaian added that staff uses the terms "code" and "ordinance" interchangeably. She said an ordinance passes, and then the language of the ordinance is inserted into the municipal code. She stated that policy is not as formal, and that policies can be institutionalized by the City Manager or by the City Council. 9 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013\Minutes\429•13 min.docx PRELIMINARY MINUTES CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE APRIL 29, 2013 Councilmember Tanner stated that the Citizens' Sustainability Committee is an important group for carrying forward items that they are discussing today and saving the planet. Chair Leo announced that Cal State San Bernardino Palm Desert is hosting an Environmental and Sustainability Exposition on May 10 from 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Ms. Lisa Ream also announced that the City is ha 3 and 4. ing event on May Ms. Nale informed the Committee that she subrnif�`�� h�� signation. Her last day is Friday, May 3. She stated that the Committ�� hias been gr�at to work with. The parking lot and plastic bag subcommittee�';c��ne up with so�'f�. excellent ideas.� She wished everyone luck, and said tha� there will be a new sfafF liaison working with the Committee in the future. �r � _ ce is. Ms. Aylaian replied Mr. Bag X. ADJOURNMENT Upon a unani adjourned the meetir ility Committee, Chair Leo Monica O'Reilly, Recording Secretary 10 G:\Planning\Monica OReilly\Sustainability Committee�2013\Minutes\449-13 min.docx Chair Leo asked who the new contact in M��',�la��`�b