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MINUTES
PALM DESERT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING
TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 14, 1982
2:00 P.M. CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I. The meeting was called to order at 2:00 p.m., after a one hour study session.
II. MEMBERS PRESENT: Vern Barton
Al Cook (Arrived at 2:10)
Ron Gregory
Rick Holden
Phyllis Jackson
MEMBERS ABSENT: Bernie Leung
Charlie Martin
STAFF PRESENT: Ramon A. Diaz
Steve Smith
Patricia Armitage
III. Mr. Barton asked if staff had studied the matter of satellite dish antenna usage
mentioned in the minutes.
Mr. Diaz replied that the matter was still under study.
On a motion by Mr. Barton, seconded by Ms. Jackson, the minutes of the August 24,
1982, meeting were approved as written.
Motion carried 2-0-2. (Mr. Gregory and Mr. Holden abstaining).
IV. CASES
A. Final drawings or items not requiring planning commission
confirmation:
1. CASE NO: 167C
APPLICANT(AND ADDRESS): J.C. PENNEY COMPANY, INC.,
c/o Mr. George MacNevin, 6131 Orangethorpe Avenue at Valley
View, Buena Park, CA 90624.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
building and landscape plans for a 90,000 square foot department
store.
LOCATION: 72-900 Highway 111 (Palm Desert Town Center)
ZONE: PC-3 (Regional Commercial) S.P.
Mr. Smith indicated that the board had granted the applicant
preliminary approval of building and landscape plans for the 90,000
square foot department store at its meeting of March 23, 1982, at
which time the only revision requested had been that the applicant
replace the Mondale Pines with Canary Island pines. The applicant
had not submitted a final landscape plan but staff would be prepared
to accept the preliminary plan as the final plan with the changes
noted thereon.
Regarding the signs, Mr. Smith indicated that the ones proposed to
the north, south and east exterior walls are to be 5 feet in height and
30 feet long for an area of 150 square feet each. The sign ordinance
limits the sign area on the north wall to 97 square feet, the south
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wall to 93 square feet and the east wall to 117 square feet.
Mr. Smith indicated that the applicant would be required to submit a
separate sign permit showing the actual color and material of the
signs.
The board was in agreement that the final building plans were
acceptable and agreed to accept the preliminary landscape plans as
final ones.
On a motion by Mr. Barton, seconded by Mr. Gregory, the final
building and landscape plans were granted approval subject to the
following condition:
1. That the signs indicated on Page A-13 of said
plans, shall not be included in this approval and
the applicant shall be required to obtain separate
approval for the signs in compliance with the city
sign ordinance.
Motion carried unanimously 4-0.
2. CASE NO: 750 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MORT'S DELICATESSEN, 72-760 El
Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260 and IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY, 46-
120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Sign program for
restaurant.
LOCATION: Palms to Pines Plaza.
ZONE: PC-3 S.P.
Mr. Smith indicated that the applicant is opening a delicatessen
where the Swiss Brasserie was formerly located and would be
retaining the Swiss Bakery as part of their restaurant. He added the
applicant was submitting a new sign program for the formerly
existing restaurant which would include two signs at the entry facing
toward El Paseo, one being a wall mounted single faced internally
illuminated sign with a dark background with yellow and orange
letters having a size of 12 feet by 2'/z feet, reading "MORT'S
DELICATESSEN RESTAURANT". The other sign would be a wall
mounted sign on a walnut background on the south facing wall, 1 foot
by 6 foot redwood, reading "SWISS BAKERY".
The applicant was also proposing a sign over the entry from the
courtyard facing the theatre on the north side of the building. It
would be single faced redwood.
Mr. George Sherwood, representative for Imperial Sign Company was
present. He indicated that the northern facing sign reading "MORT'S
DELICATESSEN" would be yellow and orange letters. The "SWISS
BAKERY" sign installed below will be orange on sandblasted redwood
with a walnut background, this sign will only be temporary. He added
that this restaurant is presently a very successful San Fernando
Valley chain.
On a motion by Mr. Greogry, seconded by Mr. Barton, the board
approved the sign program as submitted.
Motion carried unanimously 4-0.
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B. Preliminary plans (NOTE: Preliminary plan approval requires planning
commission confirmation at its meeting of September 21, 1982):
1. CASE NO: 125 C (AMENDMENT)
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DESERT DESSERT COMPANY, 72-
655 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Addition of a shade
structure for outdoor dining.
LOCATION: Palms to Pines West - South side of Highway 111.
ZONE: PC-3 (S.P.)
Mr. Smith indicated that the applicant had requested that this case
be withdrawn.
2. CASE NO: 175C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): LIVING DESERT RESERVE, 47-900
Portola Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260 and JOHN OUTCAULT,
A.I.A., 74-183 El Paseo, Suite 11, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 6000
square foot workshop and storage building at the Living Desert
Reserve.
LOCATION: East side of Portola, south of Haystack.
ZONE: P (Public Facility) D (Drainage Way)
Mr. Smith indicated that the applicant is proposing a one story
storage building with the structure being color coated cement
plaster. It will not be seen from the street due to the existence of
the earthern berm. Considering the location of the structure, which
will be some 70 feet set back from Portola and the fact that it would
only be 12 to 16 feet high, staff would have no objection to the board
granting approval with the condition that the applicant obtain
approval from the city drainage committee due to it's being in an
A03 flood area.
The board felt the building was acceptable but they were concerned
over the fact that the building was not being placed on a higher
location due to the chance that it could be flooded. They asked what
some of the drainage committee's requirments might be.
Mr. Smith replied that they might require that the building be raised
or that drainage be provided around the building.
Ms. Karen Sausman was present on behalf of the Living Desert
Reserve. She indicated that the structure will be on an elevated pad.
She added that there would be no water coming through it since it is
fully surrounded by levies which will be higher than the building. Part
of the levy that is shown shields it from Portola.
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On a motion by Mr. Barton seconded by Mr. Holden, the preliminary
plans for the 6000 square foot workshop and storage building were
approved subject to the applicant obtaining approval from the city
drainage committee to locate the structure in the location shown on
the plans.
Motion carried unanimously 4-0.
Mr. Cook arrived at this time. (2:10 p.m.)
IV. DISCUSSION ITEMS
1. CASE NO. 90C - JANICE SCHOEN
Mr. Smith indicated that the applicant was requesting a time extension for
this case.
The board was concerned over the number of time extensions this case had
been granted.
Mr. Diaz indicated that if the board felt that a time extension should not be
granted at this time then they should so decide.
After discussing the plans, Mr. Holden moved, and Mr. Gregory seconded to
deny the time extension based on the following reasons:
1. Possible incompatibility with existing developments.
2. New membership of the board.
3. Solar energy concerns.
Motion carried unanimously 5-0.
2. BANK OF INDIO
Mr. Holden asked when the board could expect the removal of the temporary
Bank of Indio building which is sitting empty.
Mr. Diaz indicated that staff would look into the matter.
3. ENTRANCE TO PALM DESERT SIGN:
Mr. Jackson asked if anything was being done regarding the Palm Desert
entrance sign. She asked if staff could get in touch with somebody to have
the sign painted.
Mr. Diaz replied that the sign is on private property and that the matter
should be discussed at the next meeting when Chairman Martin would be
present.
V. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 2:15 p.m.
SnV8 SMITH
ASSOCIATE PLANNER
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