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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985-10-22 r err MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION TUESDAY - OCTOBER 22. 1985 2:00 P.M. COMMUNITY SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM 73-510 FRED HARING DRIVE I. The meetina was called to order at 2:00 om after a one hour study session. Commission Members Current Meetina Year to Date(9/10/85) Present Absent Present. Absent Ron Grea_ory. Chairman X 3 1 Al Cook X 3 1 Rick Holden X 4 0 Bernie Leuna X. 2 2 Charlie Martin X 2 2 Staff Present: Stan Sawa Steve Smith Phil Joy Ken Weller Donna Gomez It was moved by Commissioner Holden. seconded by Commissioner Martin to approve the minutes of October' 8. 1985 as amended. Carried 4-0-1 (Commissioner Leuna abstained) I1 . Moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Cook to aaarove the followina cases by minute motion. Carried 5-0 (Commissioner Holden abstaining on Case No's 280 C and 281 C and Commissioner Leuna abstaining on Case No. 1045 SA). 1. CASE NO: 1045 SA APPLICANT_(AND_ADDRESS)_: CARVER COMPANY. 559 S. Palm Canyon. Palm Sorinas. CA 92262:� GOLDEN STATE SIGN SYSTEMS. 1111 B. Montalvo Way. Palm Springs. CA 92262. NATURE OF PROJECT APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of sign color for retail stores in commercial complex and center sign. LOCATION: Southeast corner of Monterey and Country Club Drive. ZONE: PC (2) MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 22. 1985 2. CASE NO: 262 C AP_PLICA_NT (AND ADDRESS): BOB RITCHEY. 45-120 San Pablo 2D. Palm Desert. CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT_ Final approval of plans for 27.000 square foot office/warehouse/restaurant. LOCATION: Northwest corner Eclectic and Lennon. ZONE: S. I . Subiect to the conditions listed in the staff report. 3. CASE NO: 291 MF APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): OTRA I . 27252 Calle Arrovo, San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675; BILL WRIGHT, 68-619 Perez Rd. Cathedral City, CA 92234. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary and final approval of plans for covered parking. LOCATION: Area bounded by Panorama Drive. El Camino, Sunset Lane and Abronia Trail . ZONE: R-3 1 . Approval of plan #tl with the end space cover being deleted from the four corners of the site. 4. CASE NO: 280 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS):_ I . HAROLD HOUSLEY. 74-091 Larrea Street, Palm Desert. CA 92260; HOLDEN & JOHNSON. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary plans for two story office buildina. LOCATION: West side of Monterev, 90 feet south of Sonora Drive. ZONE: O.P. S.P. Commission indicated that it would like to see the copper element remain on the building. 2 1%W 1W MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 22. 1985 5. CASE NO: 281 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MONTEREY DESIGN PARTNERSHIP c / o R IC K HOLDEN. 73-330 El Paseo. Suite B. Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans for two story office building. LOCATION: Southwest corner of Sonora Drive and Monterey Avenue. ZONE: R-2 S.P. (change of zone to U.P. S.P. pending) Commission indicated that it would like to see the copper element remain on the buildina. III . CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: 1057 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JACOUES STAMATON. 73-030 El Paseo. Palm Desert. CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of new sign program. LOCATION: Columbia Center, southwest corner Highway Ill and Highway 74. ZONE: PC (3) S.P. Mr. Smith indicated that staff had concern with the neon in the sign. Commissioner Cook thought that the sign was placed too high on the building and suggested that it be lowered or the size of the sign reduced. He indicated that the rectanales around the smaller letters should be deleted. Commission questioned the location of the sign. The applicant indicated that is was to be mounted on the fascia. Moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner Holden to aonrove the sign oroaram sub.iect to the followina conditions. Carried 5-0 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 22. 1985 1 . That the secondary araohics be deleted leaving letters only. 2. That the easterly sign be mounted lower on the wall . 2. CASE NO: 278 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS_) : NANCO DESIGN INC. , ELEPHANT BAR, 800 Miramonte Drive. Santa Barbara. CA 93109. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary conceptual approval Of plans to remodel existing commercial buildina. LOCATION: Southeast corner Hiahwav III and San Luis Rev. ZONE: C-1 S.P. Mr. Smith explained that the applicant had received approval of city council and Plannina commission but that the plans had been chanaed since that approval . He indicated that it was now before this commission for conceptual approval only and that he must return to city council for approval of the changes. Application for aoorovai of a monument sign was also submitted. Commissioner Cook auestioned the other signs that appear on the Plans. Mr. Smith indicated that only the monument sign was being submitted at this time. Commissioner Leung noted that the Pronertv Owner's Association had approved the plans and that he had no comments. It was moved by Commissioner Holden. seconded by Commissioner Cook to arant conceptual approval subiect to the following conditions.. 1 . That no more than one monument sign be Permitted, and that it be located alona the Frontage Road. Carried 4-0-1 (Commissioner Martin abstaining) 3. CASE NO: 279 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : TRIAD DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, c/o Strother Construction Comoanv Inc. . 74-990 Velie Way, Palm Desert. CA 92.260. 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 22, 1985 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of architectural plans for an industrial/office complex. LOCATION: Southwest corner Cook Street and Hovley Lane. ZONE: S. I . S.P. Mr. Smith indicated that staff was concerned with the extensive use of black glass in this environment. Commissioner Martin indicated concern with the roof mounted mechanical equipment being visible and suggested that the glass be extended to screen the equipment. He also questioned the type of glass material being used. Daniela Bogdan, applicant, stated that she could send a sample of the material for the commission's review. Commissioner Cook thought that the lot was low and that would make the roof mounted equipment even more visible from Cook Street. Mr. Harold Housley indicated that thev were going to be bringing in extra dirt to raise the pad site. Commissioner Cook stated that he would like to see a site plan. Moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner Martin to grant preliminary approval subject to the conditions in the staff report and the following. Carried 4-0-1 (Chairman Gregory abstaining) 1 . That a section through the building from the Cook Street and Hovley Lane intersection be provided along with a line of sight drawing assuring that roof mounted equipment will not be visible. 4. CASE NO: 270 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : BOB SANDIFER. P.O. Box 1008. Rancho Miraae. CA 92270. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of a 13.000 square foot industrial building. LOCATION: Southwest corner Mediterranean and Beacon Hill . ZONE: S. I . 5 *4W Nee MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 22. 1985 Commissioner Martin noted that he did not see any type of screening for roof mounted equipment. Commissioner Leung felt that the plans were incomplete. Chairman Gregory felt that there should be additional landscaping provided between the two industrial parks. He suggested that the trees be doubled and changed to a vertical growing tree. Commissioner Martin thought that each property owner should be required to provide trees every 20 feet on center or clusters. Chairman Gregory suggested that the individual parking space be deleted and that additional landscape be added. Moved by Commissioner Leung, seconded by Commissioner Martin to continue this case with the following conditions to apply to future submittal . 1 . Restudy of landscape plan on the south property line and eastern exposure. 2. Section drawing including line of site showing screening of roof mounted equipment. 3. Samples of block cap and tiles to be used. Carried 5-0 5. CASE NO: 282 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : RICHARD AYRES, 73-445 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260; CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATES, 1000 S. Palm Canyon, Palm Sprinqs, CA 92262. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Exterior modifications in connection with Cedar Creek Inn expansion (preliminary) . LOCATION: Southwest corner of San Pablo and El Paseo. ZONE: C-1 Mr. Joy indicated that the applicant has received city council approval for the expansion. 6 VOW MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 22. 1985 Commissioner Holden indicated that since they were taking what was previously open space he thought that they should provide additional landscaping outside of the wall . Commissioner Martin noted that the columns around the exterior dining area should be increased in height and size to match the existing columns on the building. It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Cook to approve Case No. 282 C subject to the following conditions. 1 . That the columns supporting the gazebo be increased to match the existing columns on the building. 2. That landscaping be added to the public side of the exterior wall . Carried 5-0 6. CASE NO: 260 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): VIP ADOBE & SHAHIN IKEZAWA INC, c/o CATHERINE MAY & ASSOC. , 2200 Pacific Coast Highway 0314, Hermosa Beach, CA 90254; WURZBURGER & ALBERT. 8008 W. Third Street. Los Anaeles. CA 90048. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of plans for a 248 room hotel with two restaurants and health club. LOCATION: One hundred feet south of El Paseo, between Highway 74 and Ocotillo. ZONE: PC (4) S.P. Mr. Sawa outlined the case and indicated that the La Paon restaurant was not aoing to be remodeled as previously planned. Mr. Sawa also noted that the applicant has received preliminary property owner's association approval and that final approval will be necessary before building permit issuance. There was some question as to what was going to happen to the existing trees. Mr. Wurzburger indicated that 105 of the existing trees were to be replanted into the design. He stated that he could compose a letter 7 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 22, 1985 indicating the number and types of trees that are to be replanted. Mr. Sawa noted that it would be a good idea. Commissioner Cook questioned the building to property line setback. Mr. Wurzburger indicated that it is 10 feet. Moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner Leung to grant final approval on the building and preliminary approval on landscape plan subiect to the following conditions. Carried 5-0 1 . That a final landscape plan be approved prior to building permit issuance. 2. That the Tristania be deleted from the landscape plan. 7. CASE NO: 1058 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): FRANK URRUTIA, 73-550 Alessandro. Suite 1 , Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of sign. LOCATION: 73-550 Alessandro ZONE: R-3 Mr. Smith indicated that the sign is to be a typical tenant sign 18" by 3' with 6" and 2" letters. Moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Martin to approved the proposed sign. Carried 5-0 8. CASE NO: 269 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): 1ST BANK OF PALM DESERT. 10403 W. Colfax Avenue, Lakewood, CO 80215; HOLDEN & JOHNSON. 73-330 El Paseo ##B, Palm Desert. CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT. Final approval of plans for permanent bank and preliminary and final approval of plans for temporary bank. LOCATION: Northeast corner of Monterey Avenue and Highway Ill . ZONE: C-1 S.P. 8 *60' MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 22, 1985 Mr. Holden indicated that along with approval of permanent and temporary banks he would like conceptual approval of a sign. He noted that the location of the sign was to be above the height limit that code permits and that it would have to be approved by planning commission. The proposed sign was to be solid metal , baked-on car enamel being back-lit and the preferred color being fleetwood green. Mr. Sawa asked the commission if it would be in favor of amending the code pertaining to height limits for signs. Commission was in favor of amending code for sign height limits. Commissioner Martin questioned the need for the temporary bank when final approval of the permanent bank has already been received. Mr. Holden explained that approval from Caltrans was needed prior to construction of the permanent building. Moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Cook to grant final and preliminary approval on temporary building, final approval on permanent building and conceptual approval of sign program. Carried 4-0-1 (Commissioner Holden abstaining) . IV. DISCUSSION ITEMS: 1. CONTINENTAL AND VACATION INN'S Mr. Smith explained that city council had concurred that each hotel should be allowed 35 square feet in sign area. Chairman Gregory stated that he had concerns with the colors of Continental Inn and with the slump stone on the base of the signs. Commissioner Cook questioned how the signs relate to the buildings. The applicant indicated that the stucco on the base of the sign would match the stucco on the buildings. Mr. Smith noted that the location of the Vacation Inn sign was fine but there is concern with the location of the Continental Inn sign. He also noted that the future restaurant will not be allowed a freestanding sign. 9 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 22, 1985 Commission felt that the Continental Inn sign would be a traffic hazard in its current position. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Martin to approve Vacation Inn sign as submitted. Carried 5-0 It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Martin to approve the Continental Inn sign with the following condition. 1 . That the sign location be submitted to staff for approval pertaining to the safety of the sign. Carried 5-0 2. AGRICULTURAL COMMISSION LETTER Chairman Greaory indicated that he had received a letter from the agricultural commission stating that all landscape plans must be approved by them. The commission thought that this was an impracticable requirement and as such they did not wish to formally respond to the letter. 3. HIROKO'S AWNING - Case No. 213 C Amendment #1 Portals submitted a blue and pink 6 foot dome front awning. Commissioner Cook questioned if the awning would oxidize. Mr. Beatty indicated that it would a little. Moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Cook to approve the awning as submitted. Carried 5-0 4. REQUIREMENTS FOR SUBMITTALS Mr. Mark Beatty, Portals, questioned the requirements for submit:tincl awnings for review. He felt that he has worked hard to meet the city standards and that other applicants for awnings have received approval with inadequate information. 10 NW "me MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION 0CTOBER 22, 1985 Commission felt that there should be some auide) inoe net on whet information is required for reviewing awnings. The followin( is what the commission directed staff to require at the time of submittal , 1 . Polaroid photos of the existing building. 2. Scale drawings. 3. Actual material and color samples with specifications on the materials. 4. Graphics design, V. : The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m. ---- ��'05 6TEVE-5M��H. Amsooia.� . Inner /d)g