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Home My WebLink About1985-09-10 ter+ MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 2:00 P.M. COMMUNITY SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM 73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE I. The meeting was called to order at 2:00 pm after a one hour study session. Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, Chj i rman X 1 0 Rick. Holden X 1 0 Bernie Leung X 1 0 Charlie Martin X 0 1 Al Cook X 0 l Staff Present: Ray Diaz Steve Smith Stan Sawa Phil Joy Ken Weller Donna Gomez Commission concurred that the minutes of August 13, 1985 should be held over for discussion with Commissioner Martin regarding his comments. II. Moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Leung to approve the following cases by minute motion. Carried 3-0. (Commissioner Leung abstained from Case No. 285 MF) 1 . CASE NO: 1036 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BILL HOWLETT, Box 312, Palm Springs, CA 92263 for Prestige Delivery. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of non-illuminated wall mounted business identification sign. LOCATION: 75-081 Mediterranean ZONE: S. I . S.P. 2. CASE NO: 1032 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): YAMAHA GOLF CARTS, 74-855 Joni Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260; IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY, 46-120 Calhoun St. , Indio, CA 92201 . 'fir►' 1*001' MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification sign. LOCATION: 74-220 Highway III ZONE: C-2 S.P. Approval subject to the following condition: 1 . That the sign be reduced by a total of 8 inches, 4" on the top of the sign and 4" on the bottom. 3. CASE NO: 285 MF APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AL JOHNSON, 2560 Blaine Avenue, Salt Lake City, UT; BERNIE LEUNG, 73--960 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans for three unit apartment complex. LOCATION: East side of Ocotillo, approximately 125 feet north of Verba Santa. ZONE: R-2 (20,000) (3) S.P. Chairman Gregory indicated that the final landscape plan should show ground cover materials to be a minimum of 5 gallon and the trees to be larger. Approval is subject to conditions contained in the staff report. 4. CASE NO: 287 MF APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LEPAN/LEVY, 72-956 Bursera Way, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans for a 28 units single story apartment project. LOCATION: South of Verba Santa between Frontage Road and Ocotillo. ZONE: R-3 ( 18,000) (3) S.P. Mr. Weller, building and safety department, informed the applicant of the new handicap standards and sprinkler ordinance that will be required by the building department. Approval subject to conditions contained in the staff report. 2 qr *r' MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 5. CASE NO: 260 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): VIP ADOBE & SHAHIN IKEZAWA, INC. , c/o Catherine May and Associates, 200 Pacific Coast Highway, ##314, Hermosa Beach, CA 90254; PETER WURZBURGER & ALBERT WURZBURGER, 8008 W. Third St. , Los Angeles, CA 90048. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans for a 248 room hotel with two restaurants and health club. LOCATION: One hundred feet south of El Paseo, between Highway 74 and Ocotillo Drive. ZONE: PC (4) S.P. Approval subject to conditions contained in staff report. II1. CASES: A. Final! Drawings: 1. CASE NO: 290 MF APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SANBORN & RYLEE, 250 Newport Center Drive ##200, Newport Beach, CA 92660. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of plans for a 20 unit residential project. LOCATION: East side San Luis Rey between Shadow Mountain and Larrea. ZONE: R-3 20,000 (3) Mr. Smith outlined the case and noted that the roof mounted equipment should be reviewed and that a formal lighting plan should be done by a lighting engineer. Mr. Diaz noted that a condition should be added so that the roof mounted equipment be reviewed by the planning staff at the time of inspection to determine if additional screening is necessary. The applicants concurred with this suggestion. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Leung to approve this case subject to the conditions stated in the staff report and the condition below. Carried 2-0- 1 (Chairman Gregory abstaining) 3 *M01 VOW MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 1 . That staff review the roof mounted equipment at the time of inspection to determine if additional screening is necessary. 2. CASE NO: 1030 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201 . NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of freestanding sign for hotel . (Continental Inn) LOCATION: South side Highway III east of Shadow Hills Road. ZONE: PC (4) S.P. Mr. Smith indicated that the proposed sign is not permitted by code and informed the applicant that city council must determine if the freestanding sign is to be permitted. Commission agreed that the marquee should be deleted and that it would not like to see a lolli-pop type of sign. Commission thought that the sign should be scaled down and that there should be an attempt by Continental Inn and Vacation Inn to work together in making the two signs compatible. Moved by Commissioner Leung, seconded by Commissioner Holden to continue this case. Carried 3-0 3. CASE NO: 239 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): VACATION INN NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Sign plan approval for hotel . LOCATION: South side Highway 111 , east of Shadow Hills Road. Mr. Smith indicated that the proposed sign is not permitted by code and informed the applicant that city council must determine if the freestanding sign is to be permitted. Commission noted that they would not like to see a lolli-pop type of sign. Commission thought that the sign should be scaled down and that there should be an attempt by Continental Inn and Vacation Inn to work together in making the two signs compatible. 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 Moved by Commissioner Leung, seconded by Commissioner Holden to continue this case. Carried 3-0 4. CASE NO: 62 C amendment APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PALMS TO PINES, Draperies & Canvas for Michael 's Restaurant., 73-111 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of a freestanding awning with signage. LOCATION: South side E1 Paseo east of Ocotillo. ZONE: C-1 S.P. Commissioner Leung indicated that he had no objection to t_he architecture of the awning. Commissioner Holden stated that the freestanding awning was not connected in any way nor did if relate to the building(s) in any way. Moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Chairman Gregory to deny this request. Carried 2- 1 (Commissioner Leung opposed) 5. CASE NO: 1038 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : THOMAS NOWLAN, 68-780 Olancha ##A, Cathedral City, CA 92234. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signs. (Domino's Pizza) LOCATION: 73-711 Highway III - south side Hwy 11 east of Larkspur. ZONE: C- 1 S.P. Moved by Commissioner Leung, seconded by Commissioner Holden to approve this case as submitted. Carried 3-0 6. CASE NO: 289 ME APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ROYCE CONNOR, 74-935 Highway 111 , Indian Wells, CA 92210; C.W. MAXWELL, 1109 Mesquite Avenue, Palm Springs, CA 92264. 5 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of a 8 unit single story apartment project. LOCATION: Northeast corner of Alessandro and Santa Ynez. ZONE: R-3 Commissioner Leung indicated that the commission would need to see a site plan showing sidewalks. Mr. Diaz stated that curbs, gutters and sidewalks will be required for this site. Chairman Gregory felt that the landscape materials should be increased and upgraded. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Chairman Gregory to grant preliminary approval subject to the staff report condition and the following: 1 . That a site plan indicating curbs, gutters and sidewalks be submitted. 2. That a revised landscape plan be submitted. Carried 3-0 7. CASE NO: 262 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ROBERT S. RICHEY, 45-120 San Pablo 2d, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans for office/warehouse/restaurant. LOCATION: North west corner Eclectic and Lennon. ZONE: S. I . Mr. Diaz pointed out that sidewalks may be required for this site. Chairman Gregory indicated that there was a lack of trees in the parking area and requested that additional trees be planted. 6 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 Mr. Joy noted that planning commission added a condition that. would require 4-5 additional trees in that area. Moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Leung to grant preliminary approval . Carried 3-0 IV. DISCUSSION ITEMS: 1. CASE NO: 167 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): WISE ATHLETIC CLUB, 45-675 Williams Road, Indian Wells, CA 92262. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of satellite dish and use of wrought iron around pool area. LOCATION: Northeast corner of San Carlos and Alessandro Drive. The applicant was requesting approval of a satellite dish which had already been installed on the roof. He also was requesting that he have the option of using wrought iron fencing instead of glass around the proposed pool area. Mr. Diaz concurred with the idea of wrought iron as long as persons would not be able to climb over the fence. Commissioner Holden was concerned that the visibility for vehicular traffic would be reduced at the corner if wrought iron fencing was used. Commissioner Leung was concerned with the liability aspect. Mr. Wise indicated that he would be willing to paint the satellite dish to match the building. Chairman Gregory questioned if the dish could be moved closer to the center of the building so that it would be less visible from the street. Mr. Wise noted that he could move it approximately 4 feet to the east and farther south. Moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Holden to approve this case with the following conditions to apply: 1 . If applicant chooses to utilize wrought iron, a sample should be submitted to staff so that it may review the visibility factor. 7 e ° 00 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 2. That the sate 1 1 i to d i sh be re 1 ocated south east of the current position to the center of the building and that it be painted to match the building. Carried 2-1 (Commissioner Leung opposed) 2. CASE NO: 1039 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SPORTS FEVER, 72-624 E1 Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification sign. LOCATION: 72-624 El Paseo Mr. Smith explained that this sign would be located in the Chazan Center which has a sign program approved. He did note that there has been variances of the program previously. Commissioner Holden thought that the commission should try to carry out the original sign program that is previously approved. Commissioner Leung suggested substituting ivory for the white. Moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Holden to approve this case subject to the white being changed to ivory. Carried 3-0 3. BUFF'S PETS N' MORE Mr. Diaz indicated that the applicant was requesting a 24 square foot wooden sign which is permitted by code. It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Holden to approve this case subject to the following condition. 1 . That the sign not protrude below the fascia nor above the parapet. Carried 2-1 (Commissioner Leung opposed) 4. CASE NO: 1028 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MOSS CENTER INVESTMENT, 54 San Sebastian, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270. 8 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Review of monument sign for Fred Waring Professional Building. Mr. Smith indicated that the monument sign on the north west corner did not meet the required setbacks for traffic visibility and could not be approved. Commission felt the sign concept for the building was acceptable. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Leung to approve the concept of the sign program for the Fred Waring Professional Building. Carried 3-0 5. CASE NO: 1033 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): EVE OWNBEY, REALTOR 73-470 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification sign. LOCATION: 73-470 E1 Paseo Mr. Smith indicated that the size of the sign was allowable by code. Commission felt that the applicant did not occupy enough space in order to have this size of a sign. Moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Leung to deny this case. Carried 3-0 6. CASE NO: 288 MF APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : NICK JORGENSEN, 48-596 Oakwood Way, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of landscape plan. LOCATION: South side of Driftwood, west of Deep Canyon. ZONE: R-3 (3) Staff indicated that this project received final approval but needed a final landscape approval . 9 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 Chairman Gregory noted that the plan could use additional trees that should be up-sized. He felt that the plan was not acceptable as a final landscape plan. Moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Holden to return the plan to the applicant for restudy. Carried 3-0 7. ATTENDANCE Mr. Diaz pointed out to the commission that there has been four times this year that the commission has had to meet with only two commissioner's present. This is in addition to having to cancel the last meeting. He indicated that this could not continue to happen. He asked if there was a problem with the meeting time, which could be changed if necessary. The commission concurred that the time was not a problem and that they would be sure that the architectural meetings will be their first responsibility. V. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 3:35 p.m. STEVE SMITH, Associate Planner /dlg 10 JOSEPH N. CICCHINI CONSULTING CIVIL, ENGINEER 72-811 Highway III, Suite 207 Palm Desert, CA 92260-3316 619-341-2273 September 19, 1985 Mr . Steve Smith Planning Department City of Palm Desert 73510 Fred Waring Drive Palm Desert , California 92260 Subject : Architectural Advisory Committee Case No . 289 MF Applicant : Royce Conner/C.W. Maxwell Dear Mr . Smith: I would like to respond to remarks made by Mr . C .W. Maxwell , the subject applicant , at a recently held meeting of the Architectural Advisory Committee . My remarks are stated in the enclosed letter , which has been prepared for the members of the Committee , and members of the Planning Department of the City of Palm Desert . I would like to request that you coordinate the distribution of these letters to their recipients at your earliest convenience . Since , in my opinion, the comments made by the subject applicant are potentially damaging to myself , efforts on your part to expedite this matter would be appreciated . Thank you for your assistance . Sincerely , ,��, ///? et e6 'l OSEP N . CICCHINI , P.E. JNC/sel Enclosures cc: Mr . C.W. Maxwell JOSEPH N. CICC INI CONSULTING CIVIL ENGINEER 72-811 Highway III, Suite 207 Palm Desert, CA 92260-3316 619-341-2273 September 19 , 1985 Mr . Steve Smith City of Palm Desert 73510 Fred Waring Drive Palm Desert , California 92260 Subject : Case No . 289 MF Applicant: Royce Conner/C.W. Maxwell Apartment Complex , Alessandro and Santa Ynez Dear Mr . Smith: It has been brought to my attention that at a recent meeting of the Architectural Advisory Committee , the applicant , C.W. Maxwell , acting in reply to a committee member ' s question , stated that the architectural building plans for his proposed project were being prepared by , and would be signed by , Joseph Cicchini . I would like to respond to Mr . Maxwell ' s remarks by stating that they are entirely false , and have never been true . I do not prepare , nor have I ever offered to prepare architectural building plans for anyone , including, Mr . Maxwell . I do not perform, nor have I ever offered to perform, any architectural design services for anyone , including Mr . Maxwell , and I do not offer to , nor have I ever "signed" architectural building plans prepared by others when requested to do so . My services , as a Civil Engineer , continue to be , as they always have been , in the areas of civil engineering, and structural calculations . Mr . Steve Smith September 19, 1985 Page two In view of the inaccuracies of the response given by Mr . Maxwell , I would like to request that you, and your fellow members of the Committee , take the appropriate action to remove his remarks from the record. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding of this situation. gincerel ,y I SEE N. CCICCHINI , P.E. JNC/sel cc: Mr . Ramon Diaz , Director of Environmental Services Mr . Alfred Cook , A. I .A. Mr . Phillip Drell Mr . Ronald Gregory, A.S .L.A. , Chairman Mr . Richard Holden, A.I .A. Mr . Phillip Joy Mr . Bernard Lueng , A.I .A. Mr . Charles Martin Mr . C.W. Maxwell Mr . Stanley Sawa Mr . Ken Weller