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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-07-08 'orl e MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION TUESDAY - JULY 8, 1986 1:00 P.M. COIMIUNITY SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM 73-SIO FRED HARING DRIVE I. The meeting was called to order at 1 :00 pm after a one hour study session. Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, Chairman X 13 0 Al Cook X 10 3 Mary Drury X 9 4 Charlie Martin X 13 0 Russell McCrea X 11 2 Rick Holden, Alternate X 10 3 Staff Present: Ramon Diaz Phil Drell Phil Joy Catherine Sass Ken Weller Donna Gomez It was moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner Drury to approve the minutes of June 24, 1986 as amended. Carried 4-0 II. Moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to approve the following cases by minute motion. Carried 4-0 1. CASE NO: 288 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): FRANK & AGNES MANCUSO, 72-281 Highway 111 , Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of working drawing and landscape plan. LOCATION: Palms to Pines Village (Carl 's Jr. Center) . ZONE: C-1 2. CASE NO: 310 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): LIVING DESERT RESERVE, 47-900 Portola Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260; JOHN OUTCAULT, 74-133 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of a 6500 square foot educational facility. MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMRI I SS I ON JULY 8, 1986 LOCATION: Within the site on the east side of Portola. ZONE: Public Institution III. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE : 308 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SHIP-N-POST, 74-140 E1 Paseo #3, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Sign and wall mural approval . LOCATION: 74-140 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 Mr. Drell indicated that the applicant was requesting approval of a business identification sign and wall mural . Commissioner Martin had no problem with the proposed sign but felt that the mural colors and size were not appropriate for the wall of the building. Chairman Gregory felt the sign was rather small and appeared cluttered. He recommended that the letters be smaller or the mailman be deleted. Commissioner Holden thought that the mailman should be deleted from the sign. Commissioner McCrea felt that the flag portion of the sign should be removed and the letters be larger and centered on the sign. Commissioner McCrea made a motion to deny the wall mural and to approve the proposed sign with the deletion of the flag portion. Motion died for lack of a second. Chairman Gregory made a motion to deny the wail mural and approve the sign as submitted, seconded by Commissioner Martin. Vote 2-2. Motion did not carry. The applicant indicated that she wished to give her building some identity by painting it a different color. 2 %W MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION JULY 8, 1966 Commissioner Martin noted that there must be a sign program for this building since there was an existing can. Mr. Diaz indicated that sign programs seem to always be deviated from. Commissioner Holden felt that if it were one tenant and one building the colors could be changed. Commissioner Martin questioned the amount of frontage the applicant had available. Mr. Drell indicated it was approximately 20 feet. Commissioner Martin suggested that the existing can be removed and replaced with a larger sign which would provide better visibility. It was moved by Commissioner McCrea to continue this case to allow the applicant to restudy the option of a larger sign and eliminating the flag portion with the wall mural being denied. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Martin. Carried 3-1 (Commissioner Holden opposed) . 2. CASE NO: 296 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DESERT CITIES BAPTIST CHURCH, P.O. Box 2215, Palm Desert, CA 92261 . NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of landscape plan. LOCATION: East side of Portola, north of Country Club Drive. ZONE: PR-5 It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Commissioner Martin to continue this case upon the request of the applicant. Carried 4-0 3. CASE NO: 305 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DEMETRIOU/BERNIE LEUNG, 73-550 Alessandro, Suite 2, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of 7,000 square foot commercial building. LOCATION: North side of Frontage Road, west of San Marcos. ZONE: C-1 3 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION JULY 8, 1966 Commissioner Martin questioned the location of poles that were to be placed in the area of the building and the sign program. Mr. Leung indicated that the poles did not apply to this project and that a sign program would be submitted at a later date. He noted that he did need a final landscape plan. Mr. Diaz indicated that planning commission will require shade trees In the parking area. It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Holden to approve this case subject to the following conditions. 1. Final landscape plan to be approved by this commission. 2. Sign program for the building to be reviewed and approved by this commission. Carried 4-0 4. CASE NO: 265 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BILL ALEXANDER, 483 E. Via Escuela, Palm Springs, CA 92262. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of plans for 48,000 square foot two story office warehouse. LOCATION: West side of Corporate Way. ZONE: S. I . It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to continue this case upon the request of the applicant. Carried 4-0 B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO: 307 MF APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALM DESERT VILLAS INC. , P.O. Box 1942, Palm Desert, CA 92261 . MATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval for a 113 unit senior housing apartment project. 4 wr•' �yrr. MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION JULY 8, 1986 LOCATION: South side of Country Club 1600 feet east of Monterey. ZONE: Propose PR-5 Senior Housing Overlay Mr. Drell indicated that the project is to be 15 units per acre on a 7- 1/2 acre site. He noted that the plans submitted were very preliminary and asked for comments. Chairman Gregory felt that the straight alley way, the roof line and the layout of the site plan were not very appealing. Commissioner Martin thought that there should be additional landscaping around the perimeter of the site. Commissioner Holden was concerned with the lack of solar protection on all elevations and indicated that it should be required. He felt that the project could be further developed showing some variation in the site plan. Chairman Gregory felt that the northern elevation roof line should be further studied. It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to continue this case with the above discussion to be addressed at next submittal . Carried 4-0 2. CASE NO: 314 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): FRANZ TIRRE, 74-133 E1 Paseo, Suite K, • Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of a 12,600 square foot office warehouse. LOCATION: North side of Lennon, 330 feet west of Eclectic. ZONE: S. I . Mr. Joy explained that staff was requiring a joint access easement between this project and the adjacent Bermuda Partners project to eliminate dead-end parking. Commissioner Martin questioned the need for the joint access. Mr. Joy explained that the fire marshal requires a 40' radius turn around on a parking lot over 150 feet deep. Mr. Tirre stated that he did not want the joint access and felt it would present a liability problem and provided no benefits to his project. He indicated that there was adequate space for a fire 5 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION .ALLY 8, 1986 truck to turn around on the existing plan. He stated that he could provide a crash gate at the rear of the parking lot it necessary. Commissioner Martin noted that the building is to have a fire sprinkler system which seems to provide some mitigation to the problem. Mr. Diaz explained that staff attempts to eliminate dead-end parking isles whenever possible. Commissioner Martin questioned the amount of back up space allowed at the west elevation parking area. The applicant indicated that there was 26 feet between the buildings. Chairman Gregory was concerned with the trash area butting up to the property line and with the three foot wide planter area. He felt that the planter should be increased to five feet. Mr. Joy indicated that the gate could be relocated closer to the rear of the property when the joint access is put in. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Chairman Gregory to grant preliminary approval subject to revised landscape plan and joint access easement. Carried 2-1-1 (Commissioner Martin opposed, Commissioner McCrea abstaining) . 3. CASE NO: 311 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BERMUDA PARTNERS, 33-255 Date Palm Drive, Cathedral City, CA 92234. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans for a 9500 square foot office/warehouse. LOCATION: North side of Lennon Place between Eclectic and Corporate. ZONE: S. I . Mr. Joy indicated that the city requires 24 feet of back up space. Chairman Gregory suggested eliminating the planter and putting it against the building. Mr. Myers, applicant, indicated that he would be willing to add the additional two feet of landscape planter and put a 6" curb at the building. 6 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION JULY 8, 1986 Commissioner Martin felt the fire marshal condition should not be required. Commissioner Holden questioned the need for additional turn around space when the amount provided is adequate for fire truck turn around. Mr. Myers suggested that the wall between the two projects be removed which the fire marshal felt was acceptable. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Chairman Gregory to grant preliminary approval subject to the following: 1 . Review of revised landscape plan. 2. That a joint access easement between this project and adjacent Franz Tirre project be required. Carried 2-1-1 (Commissioner Martin opposed, Commissioner McCrea abstaining) . IV. DISCUSSION ITEMS: 1. CHARTER COMMUNITIES Mr. Drell explained that commission had already granted preliminary approval and that the applicant was submitting colored drawings for commissions review. Commissioner Martin questioned the amount of overhang provided for solar protection. Mr. Peter Givas, architect, explained that the overhang went from three feet to four feet and that the large lower level windows were provided with trellis's for additional shade. Mr. Givas stated that the current plans show one to one parking which they would like to change to 3/4 to one. He indicated that studies show the 3/4 to one to be adequate for this type of project. Mr. Drell explained that the parking ratio would have to be deter- mined by the planning commission. He questioned the number of employees that would work there and the use of three color tile for the roof as at San Tropez Villas. Mr. Norm Reynolds indicated that there would be approximately 40 employees which would not all work at the same time. 7 Nw�' MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION JUL.Y 8, 1986 It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to approve the colors as submitted with the addition of the three color the roof. Carried 3-0-1 (Chairman Gregory abstaining) . 2. MANOR CARE Mr. Diaz explained that the project has planning commission approval and the applicant is requesting preliminary approval from architectural commission. Conceptual landscape plan was submitted for review. Mr. Lofton Moore of Manor Care indicated that there would be 64 parking spaces provided with a signed covenant stating that additional spaces would be provided if needed. Commissioner Holden pointed out the problem of access to the court- yards for maintenance equipment. Chairman Gregory noted that the ground cover selected was not appropriate and suggested replacing with African daisy. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Chairman Gregory to grant preliminary approval . Carried 4-0 V. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 2:25 p.m. RAMON A. DIAZ /dig 8