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PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
TUESDAY - JUNE 10, 1986
1:00 P.M. COMMUNITY SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
I. The meeting was called to order at 1 :00 pm after a one hour study session.
Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ron Gregory, Chairman X 11 0
Al Cook X 9 2
Mary Drury X 8 3
Charlie Martin X 11 0
Russell McCrea X 9 2
Rick Holden, Alternate X 8 3
Staff Present: Steve Smith
Phil Drell
Ken Weller
Donna Gomez
It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to
approve the minutes of May 27, 1986 as submitted. Carried 4-0-1
(Commissioner Drury abstaining) .
Il. Moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner Drury to approve
the following case by minute motion. Carried 5-0
1. CASE NO: 952 SA (Amendment)
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MARBLES c/o Marylyn Platz, 1127 Niagara,
Burbank, CA 91505.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identif-
ication sign.
LOCATION: 72-624 El Paseo (One El Paseo Building)
ZONE: PC (3) S.P.
III. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: 1190 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AMERICAN FINANCIAL MORTGAGE CORPORATION,
73-540 Highway III, Suite 5 & 6, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
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NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identifi-
cation sign.
LOCATION: North side of Highway III east of San Pablo.
ZONE: C-1 S.P.
Mr. Smith indicated that the applicant wished the sign to be roof
mounted which code does not permit. He suggested that the sign be
placed at position similar to the Sunrise TV sign.
Moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to
approve the proposed sign with the position to be similar to the
Sunrise TV sign. Carried 5-0
2. CASE NO:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SORRENTINO'S, 73-725 E1 Paseo, Palm
Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revision to awning
and business identification sign.
LOCATION: 73-725 El Paseo
ZONE: C-1
Commissioner Drury felt that the "Sorrentino's Restaurant" on the
awning was fine but thought that the names should be removed.
Commissioner Cook agreed and stated that the scallops did not
compliment the awning and made it appear cluttered.
Commissioner Martin suggested that a straight pink valance be used in
place of the scallops.
Mr. Renslo Valet indicated that the awning needed to have the first
names on it to separate it from the Palm Springs restaurant. He
noted that it was the full legal name of the restaurant.
Chairman Gregory suggested having the names on the front of the
awning and not on the sides.
The applicants explained that the names have to appear with the
restaurant name for legal purposes.
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Commissioner Cook suggested that the front lettering be 4" for the
names and 10" for Sorrentino's and that the sides be 3" and 8". The
applicant agreed and felt that the scallops should be left on the
awning.
Moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to
approve as submitted with "Bob & Manon" to be 4" letters and
"Sorrent i no's" to be 10" letters on the front of the awning. On the
side of the awning the letters are to be 8" and 3". The "Bob &
Manon" are to be straight on the awning. Approval includes a
straight valance. Carried 5-0
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: 301 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOE SEITZ, Santa Anita Development, 363
San Miguel Drive, Newport Beach, CA 92660.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 90,836 square foot
commercial development.
LOCATION: Northwest corner of Fred Waring Drive and Highway Ill .
ZONE: PC (4)
Mr. Bruce Greene, architect, reviewed the plans, outlined the
salient points and addressed some previous concerns.
Chairman Gregory had no concerns with the service station location as
long as it is well landscaped. He was concerned with the walkway
around the facility being oriented toward people. He thought that
it should be a pleasant place to walk with nice surroundings. He
suggested strips with additional landscaping in the parking area and
questioned the use of an overhead shade structure.
Mr. Greene explained that the shade structure had two breaks in it
where it would not provide shade.
Commissioner Drury questioned the amount of signage the service
station would be allowed and the location being changed to the
restaurant site to the north. The only concern she would have with
the service station on the restaurant site would be the materials
that usually clutter the rear of a service station being visible.
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Mr. Smith explained that the state controls the signage for service
stations which requires them to have a price sign visible to the
street.
Mr. Greene felt that a service station located next to a restaurant
would lose the ambience that the two restaurants together create.
He noted that the service station would not do any repairs or
service therefore, would not have the materials most service stations
have.
Chairman Gregory thought that the two restaurants should relate more
to each other. He suggested having a courtyard type of setting that
would make this area appealing to visitors coming from the hotel .
Commissioner Martin suggested have hardscape islands with trees in
the parking lots so that they are not planted with shrubs that would
be walked through. Mr. Greene explained that the parking lot
islands are basically grass and trees.
Commissioner Martin thought that drive-thru restaurants should be
allowed in the city. He noted that there are drive-thru banks. He
felt that if it were in the right location and with a proper design
and landscape plan a drive-thru restaurant would be appropriate for
the city.
Commissioner Cook indicated that he did not want the service station
to appear as the one located on Country Club and Monterey. He felt
that the plans before the commission would need to be resubmitted to
show architectural accents and details that are proposed.
Chairman Gregory thought that the landscape should concentrate more
on evergreen trees and less on deciduous.
Commissioner Cook felt that the service station did not relate with
the architecture of the rest of the project. Chairman Gregory
suggested that the roof over the service station dispensers be
painted to match the stucco on the other buildings. He noted that
he would need to see a landscape plan and also a site plan.
It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Cook
to grant preliminary approval with the above discussion to be
addressed. Carried 5-0
Mr. Smith recommended that any time there is a change to the plans
that they return to this commission for review.
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Commissioner Cook felt that drive-thru restaurants, with proper
integration could work in the city and noted that not every lot
could handle a drive-thru restaurant.
It was moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner Martin
that the commission feels that it would not be inappropriate to have
a drive-thru restaurant on this site which had good architecture and
landscaping. Motion carried 4-1 (Chairman Gregory opposed) .
It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Drury
to note the commission's endorsement of the location of the service
station on the corner. Carried 5-0.
2. CASE NO: 305 MF
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ROB COTY, 2005 Noya, Palos Verdes Estates,
CA 90274.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval for a five
unit apartment project.
LOCATION: Northeast corner of San Pascual Avenue and Santa Rosa Way.
ZONE: R-3
Mr. Drell explained that the applicant had made some changes that
the commission had requested and that he would be requesting a
variance for one parking space.
Commissioner Cook felt that the plan had improved but thought that
the parking problem could be worked out without asking for a
variance.
Mr. Drell made a suggestion that the wall be replaced with posts
which would give extra space to provide additional parking.
It was moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner Drury to
grant preliminary approval subject to the following conditions.
1 . Consideration for the reduced widths of the main building to
provide for the required setbacks.
2. The parking lot layout to be changed to provide spaces required.
Motion carried 5-0
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V. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 2: 18 p.m.
STEVE SMITH, Associate Planner
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