HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-09-23 MINUTES
PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 23, 1986
1:00 P.M. COMMUNITY SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
I. The meeting was called to order at 1 :00 pm after a one hour study session.
Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ron Gregory, Chairman X 18 0
Al Cook X 14 4
Mary Drury X 12 6
Charlie Martin X 17 1
Russell McCrea X 14 4
Rick Holden, Alternate X 14 4
Staff Present: Steve Smith
Phil Drell
Catherine Sass
Ken Weller
Donna Gomez
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Martin to
approve the minutes of September 9, 1986 as written. Carried 4-0-1
(Commissioner Drury abstaining) .
I1. Moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner Drury to approve
the following cases by minute motion. Carried 5-0
1. CASE NO: 254 MF
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): IMPERIAL BANK, Mountain View Falls, P.O.
Box 92991 , Los Angeles, CA 90009.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of revised
landscape plan.
LOCATION: Mountain View Falls
2. CASE NO: 312 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MR. & MRS. WAMBAUGH c/o ROBERT RICCIARDI ,
45-275 Prickly Pear Lane, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of working
drawings and landscaping.
LOCATION: North side of Highway 111 east of Cabrillo.
ZONE: C-1
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 23, 1986
Approval subject to the following condition:
1 . Addition of planter at east front of building and street trees.
II1 . CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: 1133 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ROBERGE JEWELRY, 73-520 El Paseo, Palm
Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage.
LOCATION: Northeast corner San Pablo and El Paseo.
ZONE: C-1 S.P.
Mr. Smith explained that the proposed awning had received conceptual
approval with the colors and signage to be reviewed. Commission, at
study session, discussed whether the awning should be one continuous
awning or broken into sections. Consensus was to have one continuous
awning.
Mr. Larry Grobeck, applicant, explained that the awning would be
black with white lettering and would be 90 feet of actual awning.
He noted that one of the "Roberge" names was deleted from the
original awning proposal .
Commissioner Holden was concerned with how the ends of the awning
would look and how the awning would relate to the wood beams. He
requested a drawing showing what happens at the ends of the awning.
The applicant indicated that some beams would be cut and removed to
provide space for the awning to hang properly.
Commissioner Cook thought that the awning could not be installed as
indicated by the applicant. He questioned if the owner of the
building concurred with the alternations. The applicant indicated
that the owner was in favor of all changes being made.
Commissioner Martin felt that the awning would provide solar
protection and thought it was nice and clean. He suggested a scale
drawing be provided.
2
`w. 140*
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 23, 1986
Commissioner Cook requested additional drawings showing how the
awning would attached to the building.
It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner Holden
to grant approval subject to a scale drawing being reviewed detailing
the ends of the awning. Carried 5-0
B. Preliminary plans:
1. CASE NO: 316 MF
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : DR. G. ROBERT ROGERS for MESA VIEW
PARTNERS, 73-261 Highway 111 , Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of a
residential project consisting of one single family residence, one
duplex structure and one vacant lot for a future R-I type structure.
LOCATION: A triangular shaped parcel directly southeast of the
intersection of Mesa View Drive and Highway 74.
ZONE: R-1 S.P.
Ms. Sass outlined the project and explained that there would have to
be a change to the plan to allow for a meandering bike path.
Commissioner Martin questioned if there would be a wall and suggested
that the wail meander with the sidewalk.
Commissioner Cook was objected to the homes being located to close
to the street. He felt that the most secluded area of the site is
used for the tennis court. He felt that site planning should be
restudied.
Mr. Joe Dunn, architect, explained that the future owners of the
units preferred this location for the tennis court.
Chairman Gregory was concerned with the front setback and suggested
that there be additional space for the bike path.
Commissioner Holden requested that the north corner of the site be
narrowed to provide more open space at the corner.
Mr. Dunn requested some aid in designing the bike path. Ms. Sass
indicated that Mr. Joy could help with this.
3
New
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 23, 1986
Moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Cook to
continue this case so that the above concerns may be addressed.
Carried 5-0.
2. CASE NO: 317 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THOMAS MILLER for Residence Inn, 11753 San
Vicente, Los Angeles, CA 90049.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of a 168
unit Home-tel Style Inn, with restaurant and a service station as
part of concept.
LOCATION: Northeast corner of Highway III and Deep Canyon Road.
ZONE: PR-5, N S.P. and P.C. (4) S.P.
Ms. Sass outlined the changes that had been made since the prior
proposal .
Commissioner Cook stated that the main building did not relate to
the other buildings and felt that several revisions were needed
before architectural approval was granted.
Chairman Gregory felt the architecture deviated from the general
desert feeling. The buildings appear upright rather than low rise.
Mr. Baum indicated that the buildings were within the height limits.
Mr. Smith noted that the front and rear portions of the site are
zoned differently and permit different height limits. The front
portion permits 35 feet and the rear portion permits 30 feet.
Chairman Gregory felt that the deletion of one tennis court improved
the site plan and suggested creating additional open space that was
needed.
Commissioner Martin stated that the layout was fine but requested
that a section drawing running north and south be submitted for
review. He felt that the main building needed revisions and the
west elevation needed to be reviewed.
Mr. Foster indicated that they would berm and landscape the west
elevation to provide screening for the parking lot. He agreed that
the main building was not complete.
4
vrr+
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 23, 1986
Chairman Gregory questioned how the drainage was to work. Mr. Baum
explained that they are working on the possibility of directing the
flow to the northwest corner of the site onto Deep Canyon.
Commissioner Martin felt there were too many medians. Mr. Smith
explained that the department of public works was requiring several
of the the medians.
Commissioner Holden indicated that he had been approached by both
planning commission and city council members who urged that the gas
station have a village style to it. He noted that more detailed
drawings for the hotel were needed and the main building needed
restudied.
It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Drury
to continue the hotel portion of the project. Carried 5-0
The architect for the gas station explained that the architecture of
the station is efficient and represents the Mobil image. He asked
for the commissions concerns so that he could address them.
Chairman Gregory stated that the commission was looking for a
village style station that would tie-in with the hotel project or
that the station be hidden.
Commissioner Holden felt that the station should be unique to our
city or it would be denied by planning commission or city council .
Commissioner Drury was concerned with the mini market and car wash
being located on Highway 111 .
The architect explained that there would be mounding on Deep Canyon
that would cut down the visibility of the car wash building. He
noted that they could provide a gable roof on the mini market
building but felt the canopy should remain as proposed.
Commissioner Holden noted that a gas station might not be appropriate
for this corner site. He suggested that they give the architect
some freedom to design an attractive station.
The architect pointed out that the site grade is three feet below
Highway III and with three feet of additional mounding six feet of
the car wash will be hidden.
5
wr►
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 23, 1986
Chairman Gregory agreed with the use of landscaping to provide
additional screening but felt that more than landscaping was needed.
He suggested a retaining wall and enhanced concrete.
The architect requested that they return to architectural commission
with a new proposal addressing the commission's concerns prior to
planning commission review.
Commissioner Martin felt the architecture shouldn't have to tie-in
with the hotel and stated that he liked the industrial design. He
did feel that city council would be more apt to approve a gas
station that would tie-in architecturally with the hotel .
It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Drury
to continue this case. Carried 5-0
IV. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
1. LANDSCAPE PLANS FOR PARKWAY ON HIGHWAY III BETWEEN LUPINE AND
LARKSPUR.
Mr. Gregory presented plans and asked for discussion. Commissioner
Cook asked why there were no trees in the shopping center parking
lot and suggested that some be provided.
It was moved by Commissioner Cook, seconded by Commissioner Holden
to approve the plans subject to the addition of trees in the eastern
Coco's parking lot. Carried 4-0 (Chairman Gregory abstaining) .
2. PIETRO'S
Mario DelGuidice, owner, explained that the proposed upper awning
for his restaurant was a recessed awning that would be inside the
fascia. Only the valance and 10" of awning will be visible. He
also requested that the commission reconsider the signage proposed
for the small awnings which would be in 6" letters.
Chairman Gregory explained that the commission is trying to be
consistent on this item by not allowing signage other than the
business identification.
It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Cook
to approve the upper awning and deny the request for lettering on
the small awnings. Carried 5-0
6
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 23, 1986
3. CASE NO: 308 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PACIFIC EQUIPMENT, 6171 Wimbledon Drive,
Riverside, CA 92506; HOLDEN & JOHNSON, 73-330 El Paseo #B: Palm
Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of landscaping
equipment warehouse showroom.
LOCATION: Northeast corner of 42nd Avenue and Corporate Way.
ZONE: SI
Mr. Holden explained the changes that had been made to the plans
that were requested at preliminary approval and indicated that the
landscape plan had been previously approved. Commission felt the
changes were acceptable.
It was moved by Commissioner Martin, seconded by Commissioner Drury
to approve the plans as submitted. Carried 4-0-1 (Commissioner
Holden abstaining) .
V. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 3:30 p.m.
i
ST E SMITH, Asso fate Planner
/dlg
7