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Home My WebLink About1987-10-13 MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION TUESDAY - OCTOBER 13, 1987 1:00 P.M. COMMUNITY SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM 73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE I. The meeting was called to order at 1 :00 pm after a one hour study session. Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, Chairman X 14 3 Al Cook, Alternate X 10 7 Mary Drury X 12 5 Russell McCrea X 16 1 Rick Holden X 16 1 Steve Sullivan X (as of 9/8/87) 3 0 Others Present: Ray Diaz Steve Smith Catherine Sass Phil Drell Ken Weller Donna Gomez It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan to approve the minutes of September 22, 1987 as written. Carried 4-0 I. Moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan to approve the following cases by minute nation. Carried 4-0 1. CASE NO: 1356 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CHIEF SIGN CRAFTS for POSTAL BOX, 73-640 Highway III , Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of single face illuminated business identification sign. LOCATION: 73-640 Highway III ZONE: C-1 S.P. 2. CASE NO: 1355 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PORTALS for SUNDANCE CLEANERS, 73-280 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 13, 1967 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage. LOCATION: Northwest corner of E1 Paseo and Lupine. ZONE: C-1 S.P. 3. CASE NO: 278 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY for ELEPHANT BAR, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201 . NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of signage for Elephant Bar. LOCATION: Southeast corner of San Luis Rey and Highway Ill . ZONE: C-1 S.P. Approval subject to the white being changed to ivory. 4. CASE NO: 1353 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PORTALS for COMERFORDS 8 HIROKO'S, 73-280 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage for two adjacent businesses. LOCATION: 73-896 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 S.P. 5. CASE NO: PP 87-27 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): GERMAIN DEVELOPMENT, 40751 Meadow Lane, Palm Desert, CA 92260; VTN CONSULTANTS, 74947 Highway Ill , Indian Wells, CA 92210. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of wall for a 20 unit subdivision. LOCATION: North side of Hovley Lane east of Monterey Avenue. 2 NOW **Ate MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 13, 1987 ZONE: PR-5 Approval is subject to fewer pilasters and deletion of one bend in the wall . 6. CASE NO: PP 87-29 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DOVELAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, 135 Columbia Drive, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary and final approval of architectural and landscape plans. LOCATION: South side of E1 Paseo, approximately 180 feet east of San Luis Rey. ZONE: C-1 Commission continued this case by minute motion. 7. CASE NO: 1341 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ONE ELEVEN TOWN CENTER/GRIFFIN CENTERS, INC. , 1123 S. Parkview Drive, Suite 300, Covina, CA 91724. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Project identification signage. LOCATION: Northwest corner of Highway III and Town Center Drive. 8. CASE NO: APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): COST PLUS NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identifi- cation. LOCATION: Northwest corner of Highway III and Town Center Drive. ZONE: This item was continued on a minute motion basis. 3 NW 14W MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 13, 1967 9. CASE NO: 337 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CHEVRON USA C/O TAIT AND ASSOCIATES, 900 Orangefair Lane, P.O. Box 4425, Anaheim, CA 92803. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval for minor remodel , signage and landscaping for gas station. LOCATION: Southeast corner Highway III and Plaza Way. ZONE: PC-3 Approval subject to revised landscape plan being submitted for approval , relocation of swamp coolers and the signs being revised to comply with code requirements. III. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: 1354 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for T. BARRY KNICKER COMPANY, Pinyon Pines Box 69, Mountain Center, CA 92361 . NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning and signage. LOCATION: 74-420 Highway III ZONE: C-1 S.P. Mr. Smith indicated that the sign is an existing sign located on El Paseo and to be relocated to the Todd building on Highway Ill . Commissioner Sullivan was concerned with the combination of the awning and the building. He questioned how the awning related to the building and requested more detailed information. He felt that if the awning was placed over the adjacent tenants space it would be a mistake. Mr. Brooks, representative, explained that the awning would cover the complete wall . Commissioner Drury explained that a new tenant could locate in the adjacent space and not want the awning over their space. She asked 4 y*N rro` MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 13, 1987 if the awning could be reworked to eliminate the awning being placed over the adjacent tenants space. Mr. Brooks indicated that his client wanted to spend the least amount of money possible. Mr. Smith indicated that they should have approval from the building owner if the awning is to be located over the adjacent tenants space. It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan to continue this case. Carried 4-0 2. CASE NO: 1349 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for WARREN'S GIFTS LTD, Pinyon Pines Box 69, Mountain Center, CA 92361 . NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Resubmittal of awning to extend an additional two feet from fascia - five feet total . LOCATION: 73-390 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 Mr. Smith explained that the commission, at study session, felt that the additional two feet requested was unwarranted and indicated that all awnings in this general location would be kept to the same. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Drury to reaffirm the previous approval and deny above request. Carried 4-0. 3. CASE NO: 1359 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : D & A SHADE COMPANY for SPECTACULAR SHADES, P.O. Box 417, Palm Springs, CA 92263. NATURE OF _PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of an awning with signage for new business. LOCATION: 73-260 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 S.P. Commissioner Drury indicated that this was a canvas sign rather than an awning and she felt the sign was too busy and recommended the 5 yrw � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 13, 1967 glasses be deleted. Commissioner Sullivan thought the sign was too large. Mr. Smith noted that the sign is to be limited to a total of 23 square feet. It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan to continue this case to allow for restudy of sign size and graphics. Carried 4-0 4. CASE NO: 1360 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : D & A SHADE COMPANY for OUR PLACE RESTAURANT, P.O. Box 417, Palm Springs, CA 92263. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning for installation over outdoor seating areas. LOCATION: 73-910 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 S.P. Ms. Sass explained that the proposal is for an awning without signage. Commissioner Drury felt the scallops and white trim should be removed. Chairman Gregory agreed. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Drury to approve this case. Carried 3-1 (Commissioner Sullivan opposed) . B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO: PP 87-32 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CHARLES MARTIN/MIRALESTE INVESTMENTS, 40-840 Thunderbird Road, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of architecture of office building. LOCATION: Highway III at Cabrillo. ZONE: C-1 S.P. 6 *4W MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION OCTOBER 13, 1987 Mr. Martin, architect, explained that the lot was unusual in shape and that he lost a lot of building by providing for the line-of- sight. He noted he was providing a stepped up effect that allowed solar protection. Commissioner Drury liked the building architecture. Commissioner Sullivan had concerns with the right-of-way and overhang of the fascia. Mr. Smith indicated that all buildings must have a five foot setback when located on a public street. Mr. Martin explained that the overhang would be decreased some. It was moved by Commissioner Sullivan, seconded by Commissioner Drury to grant preliminary approval subject to the above concerns being addressed at final approval . Carried 4-0 IV. MISCELLANEOUS: V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None VI. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 1 :45 p.m. STEVE SMITH, Ass2561 to Planner /dig 7