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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-09-22 MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 22, 1987 1 :00 P.M. COMMUNITY SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM 73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE I. The meeting was called to order at 1 :00 pm after a one hour study session. Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, Chairman X 13 3 Al Cook, Alternate X 10 6 Mary Drury X 11 5 Russell McCrea X 16 0 Rick Holden X 15 1 Steve Sullivan X (as of 9/8/87) 2 0 Others Present: Ray Diaz Steve Smith Catherine Sass Joe Pudis Donna Gomez It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to approve the minutes of September 8, 1987 as written. Carried 5-0 II. Moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Commissioner Drury to approve the following cases by minute motion. Carried 5-0 (Chairman Gregory abstaining on Case No. PP 87-12). 1 . CASE NO: 1349 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for WARREN'S GIFTS LTD, Pinyon Pines Box 69, Mountain Center, CA 92361 . NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage. LOCATION: 73-390 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 2. CASE NO: 335 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : HOWIE HOWINGTON, Ocotillo Plaza, 2457 E. Tropicana Avenue, Las Vegas, NV 89109. MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 22, 1987 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of exterior remodel of business location for Penguins Yogurt. LOCATION: 72-795 Highway 111 , Palms to Pines West. ZONE: Pr_ (3) S.P. 3. CASE NO: 1350 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : INDUSTRIAL WEST, 41-945 Boardwalk, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of sign program - for commercial center. LOCATION: 74-260 Highway III ZONE: C-1 4. CASE NO: PP 87-12 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DAVE MANOOKIAN, P.O. Box 2060, Sun Valley, ID, 83353. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of plans for 34 unit apartment project. LOCATION: Northeast corner of San Pablo and Catalina Way. ZONE: R-3 S.O. III . CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: 1348 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): STANLEY & ASSOCIATES, 73-622 Highway 111 , Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of stained glass sign. LOCATION: 73-622 Highway III ZONE: C-1 2 *NEW MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 22. 1987 Ms. Sass explained that the applicant wished to replace the existing sign with a stained glass sign. A colored drawing and samples were provided. Commission asked if the sign was to be can or individual letters. The applicant indicated it would be a can sign 90" X 20-112". It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan to grant approval . Carried 5-0 2. CASE NO: 322 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THE PLAZA ON EL PASEO, 73-061 El Paseo, Suite 58, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of remodel plans including landscaping. LOCATION: Northwest corner of El Paseo and Sage. ZONE: C-1 Commissioner Sullivan explained that the proposed plans were not prepared by a licensed person therefore the commission should not even review the plans. Mr. Chris Clark, representative, explained the proposed changes to the plaza area and noted that the restaurant located in the courtyard is trying to obtain some exposure. They are requesting approval of color changes for the building and awnings. S1gnage is to be submitted at a later date. Commissioner Drury questioned the reason for the "future gates" listed on the plans. Mr. Clark explained that gates may be provided in the future to allow for security of outside seating. Chairman Gregory indicated that a encroachment permit would be needed for the planters protruding into the sidewalk. He noted that if the gates are installed in the future they will open into the right-of-way. He suggested the building be pulled back to eliminate the encroachment. Commissioner Sullivan felt that there was a lack of details provided and noted that the architectural elements did not integrate with each other. 3 NNW ^qw` MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 22, 1987 It was moved by Commissioner Sullivan, seconded by Commissioner Drury to continue this case and request a restudy of the following items: 1 . Proposed improvements to integrate with existing architecture. 2. Encroachment of right-of-way by planters and gates. 3. Provide color elevations. Carried 5-0 3. CASE NO: 1341 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ONE ELEVEN TOWN CENTER/GRIFFIN CENTERS, INC. , 1123 S. Parkview Drive, Suite 300, Covina, CA 91724. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Project identification signage. LOCATION: Northwest corner of Highway III and Town Center Drive. It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to continue this item until the applicant is present. Carried 5-0 4. CASE NO: 1351 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LE PAON RESTAURANT, 45-640 Highway 74, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of an awning with signage. LOCATION: 45-640 Highway 74 ZONE: PC (4) S.P. Mr. Smith explained that the awning has been installed without benefit of permit. Applicant is replacing an existing awning with a new color and the addition of signage on the awning. The awning is brightly lit. The applicant indicated that they are adding a layer of canvas on the bottom of the awning to lessen the brightness. 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 22, 1987 Commissioner Drury felt it was an improvement over the previous awning. Chairman Gregory's only concern was with the light but felt that it would be mitigated with the addition of the canvas on the bottom of the awning. It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to grant approval . Carried 5-0 B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO: PP 87-29 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DOVELAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, 135 Columbia Drive, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary and final approval of architectural and landscape plans. LOCATION: South side of El Paseo, approximately 180 feet east of San Luis Rey. ZONE: C-1 Ms. Sass noted that the plans had changed substantially. They are only utilizing one lot, have added a loft area and additional landscaping has been provided. She explained that the applicant does not have access to the western site, therefore they are providing a hammerhead turn around. Chairman Gregory recommended that the Rapholepis be deleted and suggested that the location of the Brazilian Pepper trees be switched with the location of the ficus because the peppers don't do well in parking areas. He explained that the lawn on the north elevation would not get much light and therefore would not do well . He asked that the Mediterranean Fan Palms be up-sized from 15 gallon to 24" box. Commissioner Drury asked if there was access to the center unit. Mr. Troncoso explained that there may only be two tenants and if there are more they will provided doors to the center unit. 5 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 22, 1987 Commissioner Holden expressed concern over the variation of the fascia width on the working drawings. He noted that the applicant will need to receive property owners association approval . Mr. Winegar indicated they were concerned with the time limitations they have on this project and asked what they would need to receive approval . Commissioner Holden explained that the only thing he is requesting is accurate plans showing correct elevations and fascia. Chairman Gregory advised that the difference in fascia width can change the appearance of the building considerably. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan to grant conceptual approval subject to the following. 1 . Accurate elevation/fascia drawings to be provided. 2. Provide drawings showing awning type and locations. 3. Property owner association approval to be obtained. Carried 5-0 IV. MISCELLANEOUS: Chairman Gregory felt that there should be some form of punishment when people fail to receive approval and/or obtain permits. Mr. Pudis explained that they only way you can charge them a fee is if you can prove you had to make a "special investigation". Commissioner Holden noted that people hire someone that isn't qualified and then have a licensed person sign the plans. The commission should not approve plans that are prepared by an unlicensed person. Commissioner Drury asked if the planning department would be able to inform the applicants at the time of submittal of the requirement. The requirement should be enforced from the beginning. 6 low I-Ave MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 22, 1987 V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None VI. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 2: 13 p.m. STEVE SMITH, Associate Planner /dig 7