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RtESDAY - AUGUST 23, 1988
12:00 P.M. CCD14NITY SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM
73-510 FRED W RIIW7 DRIVE
I. The meeting was called to order at 12:00 pm.
Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ron Gregory, Chairman X 14 2
Mary Drury X 15 1
Russell McCrea X 11 5
Rick Holden X 13 3
Steve Sullivan X 15 1
Others Present: Steve Smith
Frankie Riddle
Catherine Sass
Phil Drell
It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Commissioner Drury to approve
the minutes of August 9, 1988, with an amendment on Case No. 306 C -
Preliminazy Landscape Plans were approved. Carried 4-0.
II. Moved by Drury, seconded by ssicner Sullivan to approve
the following cases by nunute motion. Carried 4-0.
1. CASE NO: 1476 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): HALLMARK, INC., dba. THE ART COLONY,
74-210 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage.
LOCATION: 74-210 Highway 111, next to the Blueprinter.
7CNE• C-1, S.P.
2. CASE NO: PP 88-2
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): OLIPHANT DESIGN CONCEPTS (FOR ADAGIO
GALLERIES), P.O. Box 522, Whitewater, CA 92282.
NATURE OF PROJECTAITIOVAL SOUGHT: Storefront and signage for
suite in the El Paseo Fashion Plaza (Marvin-David).
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LOCATICN: 73-130 El Paseo, Suites F & G.
ZONE: C-1
3. CASE NO: 342 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DCMINICK MANCUSO'S TRATTORIA, 73-520 E1
Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SO[X3ff: Minor exterior remodel to add
dry storage and walk-in refrigerator.
LOCATICN: 73-520 El Paseo.
ZONE: C-1
4. CASE NO: 1467 SA
APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): GANNON CONSTRUCTION, 46 Jaya Drive, Palm
Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of building
identification sign.
LOCATION: 73-625 Highway 111, Southeast corner of Larkspur and
Highway 111.
ZONE: C-1
5. CASE NO: PP 88-13
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RICHARD OLIPHANT & TONY LIZZA, 77-900
Avenue of the States, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary Approval of
architecture, sign cans and landscape plans for an office
professional building.
LOCATION: Northwest corner of Monterey Avenue and Arboleda Avenue.
ZONE: O.P., S.P.
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III. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: 1477 SA
APPLICANT (AND AMRESS): SWENSEN'S TC WN CENTER, 72-840 Highway
111, Space D-156, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLXM: Approval of additional signage.
IACATICN: North side of Palm Desert Town Center.
ZCNE• PC (3) S.P.
Mr. Smith indicated that Swensen's is proposing pink neon tubing for
their sign, which will read "Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner".
C.amtissioner Drury asked Mr. Simmons how the Town Center felt about
the pink neon. Mr. Sinruns indicated that the Town Center was not
opposed to any type of sign unless it is to garish. They are not
against this sign and are trying to assist the businesses in
attracting more night time business.
Chairman Gregory asked the other camLissioners if they had changed
their minds regarding the sign (Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner). There
was no change of opinion. Cbnudssion felt that another sign could
be proposed that could achieve the same purpose.
Camtissioner Drury felt that a pedestrian sign was needed more than
a drive by sign, because of the theatre being next to door and the
parking area in front.
It was moved by Camiissioner Drury, seconded by Chairman Gregory to
continue this case for restudy of the sign. Carried 4-0.
2. CASE NO: 1473 SA
APPLICAM (AND ADDRESS): WOODY'S/PACIFIC NEON, 1576 Silica Ave.,
Sacramento, CA 95851.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGM Approval of new sign program.
LOC ATIC N: Palm Desert Town Center.
ZONE: P.C. (3) S.P.
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Mr. Smith informed commission that the sign "Bar and Grill" and
racing stripes are now being proposed in turquoise. The racing
stripes will extend 59 feet down the wall.
Mr. Simmons, Manager of Town Center, indicated that the mall sits so
far back that it is hard to advertise that the businesses are open
during the evening.
Commissioner Drury asked how Woody's would feel if the racing
stripes were deleted. Mr. Simmons stated that they would not really
want to delete the racing stripes, but would if directed to do
SO. Mr. Simmons asked if something could be done to at least
approve the Bar and Grill sign.
It was moved by Commissioner Sullivan, seconded by Commissioner
McCrea to continue this case until the next meeting and submittal of
a rendering showing the actual elevation of the wall with the sign
and racing stripes. Carried 4-0.
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: PP 87-26
APPLICMr (AND ADDRESS): TEMPLE CONSTRUCTION, 747 Eugene Road,
Palm Springs, CA 92262.
NATURE OF PIXUBCP/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary nary Approval of the
landscape plans on Desert Falls for Frank Sinatra Drive, Frank
Sinatra entryway, Cook Street entryway and revised tract 23723.
LOCATICN: Northeast corner of Cook Street and Country Club Drive.
ZONE: P.R., 3.5
Commission felt that desert landscaping for Frank Sinatra Drive and
Frank Sinatra entryway was acceptable, but the Cook Street entryway
looks too barren with the desert landscaping. It should be
landscaped in the oasis style landscaping. It was noted that the
council feels that landscaping should be done with the desert style
to eliminate water over-flow into the streets.
The Fred Waring medians have been installed with the desert
landscaping to conserve water and eliminate water over-flow.
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It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea
to approve this case. Carried 2-1-1 (Chairman Gregory abstained and
Commissioner Sullivan opposed).
2. CASE NO: PP 8-9
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): LEVI H. LEHV, M.D., 42-900 Bob Hope
Drive, Suite 102, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270; LEROY MILLER, 1811
Centinela Avenue, Santa Monica, CA 90404.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Conceptual landscape plan,
revised site plan and material board for 23,000 square foot medical
building.
LOCATION: Southeast corner of Fred Waring Dr. and San Pablo Ave.
ZONE: O.P.
Commissioner Drury felt that the window mullions should be the same
color as the balcony railings, which is orange/red.
It was noted that the Mayor Benson suggested that the window glass be
tinted a bronze color.
Chairman Gregory suggested that the 15 gallon trees adjacent to
the streets (San Pablo and Fred Waring Drive) and the parking area
should be changed to 24 inch box trees. The landscaped planters
should be more detailed on the corner of San Pablo and Fred Waring.
Commissioner Sullivan felt that the water fountain should be deleted
or moved to a different location on the site. Commissioner Sullivan
suggest that the corner plan be blown up to an eighth inch scale.
It was moved by Cattmissioner Sullivan, seconded by Chairman Gregory
to give preliminary nary approval of the building subject to the windows
being tinted bronze, window mullions being changed to the same color
as the balcony railings. Carried 4-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Chairman Gregory to
give conceptual approval on the landscape plans with the condition
that more detailing be added to the corner landscaping of San Pablo
and Fred Waring, trees adjacent to San Pablo and Fred Waring and in
the parking area be changed from 15 gallon trees to 24 inch box
trees and the deletion of the water fountain. The corner landscape
plan should be blown up to an eighth inch scale. Carried 4-0.
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IV. MISCELLANEOUS:
1. CASE NO: SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): GEORGE NICHOLAS, JR. , Mesa View
Partners, 74-075 El Paseo, Suite D, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of single family
residence above 15 feet in height.
LOCATION: 48-774 Highway 74.
ZONE: R-1
Mr. Nicholas showed the ccmmission the approved grading plans and
pictures of the wall. He indicated that the grade is very steep
from the top to the bottom, which is deceptive to people. The
grading is at or below that of Highway 74. After discussion, it was
estimated that the Indian Hills hone would be approximately 120
feet away fr m her window.
Conntissioner Drury asked what the purposes of the height was from
the interior. Mr. Nicholas indicated that the interior was designed
to have the cathedrals show the open beamed tiny grouped ceilings.
Without the proposed height the lighting and the overall interior
design would be effected.
Commissioner Sullivan indicated that a pole could be erected at
the same height as the ridge to assist in evaluating the impact on
views. Mr. Nicholas agreed to put up the pole.
Commission agreed to inspect the site after the pole was evaluated.
They will call staff with their reaammendations, at which time staff
is allowed to approve or deny the case.
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Camtissioner Sullivan
to allow staff to approve this case as submitted pending confirmation
fran them after inspecting the site. Carried 4-0.
NOTE: Commission members Sullivan, Gregory, McCrea and Drury met at
the subject site on August 24, 1988, and agreed that the house in
question could remain at the proposed 18 feet in height. It was the
feeling of the ccmnission that the placement of this have would not
impact existing views anymore if it was 15 feet or 18 feet in
height. This conclusion was reached because the existing development
(Indian Hills) was constructed at a much lower elevation than the
subject property-
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V. ORAL CUrTtiNICATIONS:
Commissioner Drury asked what was happening with the Town Center
Apartments in regards to the proposed landscaping and parking area. Mr.
Smith indicated that there is an agreement with the redevelopment agency
to provide the parking in the rear off of Acacia. The change of zone went
to city council and planning camLLssion to create the parking area, and
the front setback areas will be landscaped.
Commissioner Drury also asked what was happening with the landscaping at
the Marriott on the golf course to the south and on Portola. Mr. Smith
informed the commission that the landscape plan was approved for the wrong
location. He will look into this matter again for oc mLission.
Commissioner Drury wanted to know what was wrong with the flood control.
She stated that each time it rains the water floods Monterey and Fred
Waring. Cammmissioner Sullivan asked if they were connected, if not, this
could be causing the problem. Mr. Smith indicated that someone from the
public works department will be invited to attend the next architectural
commission meeting to discuss this issue.
Commissioner Drury asked about the Allison International sign. Mr. Smith
informed commission that he and the lady that runs the shop came to an
agreement whereby the sign will be 37.5 square feet, with the same
letters and placed on the back wall. Basically the top and bottom lines
will be deleted from the sign.
Clo missioner Sullivan wanted to know the status of the Midori Restaurant.
He indicated that they have not removed or modified the trellis work that
was done without approval. Also, they have not resubmitted a revised
design. Mr. Smith indicated that he would speak with the building
department regarding this matter.
Commissioner Drury asked if the Village Lounge obtained a permit for
their sign. She also indicated that Andreino's has built a cage around
their air conditioning, is this the answer to the problem. Commissioner
Sullivan noted that this might solve the problem if they could finish it
off. Mr. Smith indicated that he would try and have answer to these
questions at the next meeting.
VI. .
The meeting adjourned at 2:25 p.m.
ST8PFIEN R. SMITH, AsAociate Planner
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