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Home My WebLink About1988-01-12 � � � PAIM DFSF�T �SSICN 7I�AY - JAN[�4RX 12, 1988 1:00 P.M. �M�II'PY S�TI(ES � RQCM 73-510 FItID T�RIl�G DRIVE �e � �c � * * �e * �c * �c �c � �c * � � * � �c � � � �c * � * �c �c � �c �c � � * � * �c � I. The meeting was called to order at 1:00 pm after a one h�ur study session. Cannission M�nbers Glaxxent Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron G`r'egorY, Chai-rman X 1 0 Al Cook, Alternate X 0 1 MarY Dru�Y X 1 0 Russell McC`rea X 1 0 Rick Holden X 1 0 Steve Sullivan X 1 0 Others Present: Steve Smith Phil Drell Catherine Sass Ken Weller Donna Ganez It was maved by Camtissioner Sullivan, seconded by Catm.issioner McCrea to approve the minutes of December 22, 1987 as written. Carried 4-0-1 (CaYmissioner Druzy abstaining). II. Nbved by Holden, �[3ed by C}mn;�;rnAT- Bn�nr {�p �� the following cages by mi�ut�e m�tion. (Ca�missione,r S�llivan absta.ined ori Case No. 1421 SA) 1. CASE Nl�• PP 87-24 APPLIC�fr (Ai�ID ADDRESS): N�N'I'ER�'Y INVES'INIENT GROiTP, 77-900 Avenue of the States, Palm Desert, CA 92260; JOHI�i OUTCAULT, 74-133 E1 Paseo #11, Palm Desert, CA 92260. i�ZURE OF PROQF7CP/APP1t�7AL SOUC�iT• Final approval of plans for two story office project. I�OC�TIo[�T: Southwest corner of Nlonterey Avenue and Fred Waring Dr. 7�: O.P. 2. CASE I�U• PP 86-13 ApPLICANP (AI�ID Ai�RESS): JOHI�11 DELLA, 265 N. Saturmiiw Drive, Palm Springs, CA 92262. �' � � ARCHITEG`I.[JLtAL QM�IISSI�T JAN[IARY 12, 1988 I�12[7FtE OF PR�Ck7DGT/APP�L SOUC�iT: Approval of addition of winclow area in the south portion of loft area. LUCATI�i: DriftHn�od Avenue 7AlVE: R-3 3. C�,SE NO• 1398 SA APPLIC�ANP (At�ID ADDRF�S): DEANS � C�ITER, 73-195 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260. I�ZURE OF PROJ�LT/APPROVAL SO[7C��: Approval of identification signs on building fascia. IACATI�i: 73-195 Highway 111 ZOI�• Gl S.P. 4. CASE IVC)• 1421 SA l�1PPLI(�1NP (AI�ID ADDRFSS): ST. MARGAREr'S EPISOOPAL C�iURC�i, 47-535 Highway 74, Palm Desert, CA 92260. l�Z[lRE OF PROJF�C.T/APPRaVAL SOUC�iT: Approval of sign which includes rendering of new church. I�OCATI�i: 47-535 Highway 74 �� Approval subject to sign rei�x-sval up�n final inspection of building improvements. 5. CASE IVI�: 1423 SA APPLIC�INP (AI�ID ADDRFSS): CARVER C�MPANY, 555 S. Palm Canyon #207, Palm Springs, CA 92262. 1�12Uf2E OF PRQ.7F]GT/APPROVI�L SOUC�-1T; Approval of signs for Art Plaza. I�OCATI�T: Palms to Pines Art Plaza 2 '�rrr+ �wrr� � ARC��TECIURAL �T�SSI�T J�ARY 12, 1988 6. C�1SE IaU: PP 87-20 APPLICANP (AI�ID A�RF�S): C�-iUQC STRO`I'f�iER/TRIAD PACIFIC DEVELOPNIENT, P.O. Box 1514, Palm Desert, CA 92261. I�ZURE OF P1�0�7�]GT/APPRaTAL SOIX��T: Preliminazy approval of archi- tectural design and landscape plan for a mixed-use professional office/multi family residential developnent. I+OCATIC7[�T: Northeast corner of Cook Street and Hovley Lane. Z�0[�: PR-5 S.P. (zone charzge request to 9 acres O.P. and 25 acres PR-9 S.P. III. Q1SFS: A. Final Dra�v�rirx�5: 1. (�1.SE Nl�• HPD 87-1 APP'LIC�P (AI�ID ADDRFSS): BILL & DORO'I�iY OLINGER, 46 Country Club Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260. I�ZURE OF PROJ�CP/APPRaVAL SOIIQ�: Appraval of e.xterior color of unit as built and landscapirig. LOCATION: 72-315 Upper Way West (hillside opposite end of Haystack). 7�• HPR-8 Mr. Smith explained there has been c�cern expressed by tw�o city council men►bers regarding the color of the residence. He noted that a final landscape plan is still required for approval. Camu.ssioner Druxy felt that once the landscaping is canpleted it will improve the appearance. Chairman Gregory recommended that the disturbed slope areas be stained and renaturalized so that the scar is re.�naved. He also suggested that sane native materials be planted on the slope area. It was moved by Cannissioner Drury, seconded by C,a�tissioner McCrea to grant appraval of the color of the residence as painted and grant prel�minary landscape approval subject to the follawing condition. Carried 5-0 3 �` � � AR�IIT�C�7E2�1L �T�SSI�i JAN(]ARY 12, 1988 1. Any disturbed slope area be stained and renaturalized so that the scar is remaved. 2. (�SE N�• 1341 SA APPLICANP (AND ADDRESS): SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IDISON, 74-000 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NAT[JRE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SQX��: Amenc3�lent to approved color scheme at One Eleven Tcx�m Center. IACATIo[�T: 44-425 Tcx�m Center Way #8 7�0[�• Mr. Kermit Martin explained this was the corporate logo and if this could r�ot be used they w�uld have to go to black and white. Cannissioner Drury had only one c5oncern reyarding the deviatian from the approved sign program for the center. N�. Drell explained the purpose for sign programs is so that staff may apprave any future sign requested that falls into the sign program. If a sign deviates fran the approved sign program then the aam�ission reviews it for acceptability. It was moved by Comnissioner Drury, seconded by Catmissioner McCrea to grant approval as su�nitted. Carried 4-1 (Catmissioner Holden ��)• 3. (�SE N0: 1412 SA APPLI(�NP (ArID ADDRF�S): D & A SHADE AI�ID AWNING QONlPANY, P.O. Box 417, Palm Spririgs, CA 92263 for AI�IDREINOS, King of Fettucini. 1�,2[7RE OF PROJ�GT/APPR�TAL SOU�: Approval of awrLi.rlg with signage and addition to storage area. I.00ATi�v: 73-098 Highway 111 ZC�: C-1 S.P. Mr. Smith indicated commission had reviewed the plans in study session and were questioning what happ�x�s on the west end of the building. 4 �` � NIINUI'FS ARQ�ITflCZ[JRAL �T�IISSI�i JAlVIJARY 12, 1988 The applicant explained that they are required to have covered storage area and this is the reason for enclosing this area. He ru�ted that the awnuzg could continue aver the storage area if the commission requested. Catmissioner Sullivan wanted to see haw the covering of the storage area w�uld relate to the back of the builcling. Commissioner Drury requested that this item come back to the cannission as a package shawing colors of the building and proposed changes. She requested for the next meeting the previous appraval be pulled by staff so that they may review the changes granted at that t�me. It was maved by Comnissioner Dnary, seconded by Caimissioner McCrea to continue this case to allcxa for resuUmittal. Carried 5-0 4. (�1SE NO• 1413 SA APPLICANP (AI�ID ADDRFSS): D & A SHADE ArID AWNING CJC��ANY, P.O. Box 417, Palm Springs, CA 92263 for GIFTS FOR OOLFERS. I�1Z[7RE OF PR0.7ECP/APPRC7VAL SOUC��P: Approval of awning with signage. I�(X'ATI�i: 73-260 El Paseo ZONE' G1 S.P. Mr. Smi.th explained the proposal and indicated he had a concern with the awning, if approved, blocking any exposure afforded the business to the east (Ellen's). He recannended that if cannissian wished to approve this it�n, written approval fran the property awner should be obtained aclaxxaledging that the unit to the east may be negatively impacted by this awnirig. Commissioner Sullivan was opposed to the banner portion of the awn.ing and agreed that the awning would obstruct the entry to the adjacent business. CarnLissioner Holden felt the architecture of the builduzg was being hidden with the awning. The applicant indicated he was trying to enhance the architecture rather than hide it. 5 '� � � ARCHIT�7CI[]RAL ��SSIC1rI JAN��RY 12, 1988 Chairman GY�egory noted that there is usually concern when clashing colors are located adjacent to each other and generally the caYmissian opposes banners and hiding of architectural style of a building. It was moved by Catmissioner Druzy, seconded by Comnissioner Sullivan to grant approval of the caraopy awning with deletion of the valance portion and subject to approval from the property awner. Ca.rried 4-1 (Catmissioner Holden opposed). 5. C�SE NO• 1420 SA APPLICATfP (At�ID Ai�RFSS): HOWARD JOHNSON'S, 74-675 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260. 1�1TURE OF Pf�0,7E7CT/APPRC7VAL SOUC�iT: Approval of new wall and monLm�erit sign for hotel. I�OC�TIo[�i: 74-675 Highway 111 7.0�� PC-4 Mr. Drell explained the proposal is for a mon�unent and wall sign. The request is to replace the face only of the sign and the wall sign will be no higher than the existing Continental Inn sign. He rwted that in study session c�nmission confirnled that the stripe was included as p�rt of the sign, therefore, the sign area exceeds what is allavable by code. Chairman Gregory felt the sign witYx�ut the stripe would not be attxactive and suggested that the stripe only be counted as 50-°s of its actual area. Cannissioner Holden requested that the sign be sh�z on the building to show the proportion and location. It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Catmissioner Sullivan to continue the wall sign so that it may be brought into sign canpliance and approve the mont.mient sign as submitted. If the applicant can bring the proposed wall sign within what is allawed by code, staff may grant appraval. Cazried 5-0 6. (�1SE N0: Project No. 91688 APPLIQ�Nr (ArID ADDRESS): CITY OF PALM DESERT REDEVEI�OPf'lENT AGEIVCY. 6 �„�,; �,�,,,,,. NID�ATrES ARQ�TEC;'IUR�L QNMISSI�i JANI)�1RY 12, 1988 I�ZURE OF PI�OJ�C,T/APPRpVAL SOUC�iT: Appx�oval of landscape plan for Tawn Center Aparhilent parkuzg lot. LOCATION: Northwest corner of FY�ed Waring Drive and Nbnterey Avenue. 7�: R-2 S.P. and R-1 12,000 It was moved by Commissioner Sullivan, seconded by Catmissioner Drury to continue this case. C2rried 5-0 7. C�SE IVC)' PP 87-1 APPLIC�INP (AI� ADDRFSS): MARRIO'IT'S DESERT SPRINGS RESORT, 74-555 Countxy Club Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPRChT�1L S(XX��: Final approval of perimeter landscape plans. LOCATION: 158 acres bounded by Cook Street, Havley Lane and Portola Avenue, directly south of the existing Marriott developnent. 7�VE' PR-4 and O.S. Ms. Sass recommended that an eight foot sidewalk and additional pyracantha be used. She noted that the applicant did not intend to add any trees in the parkway area. Calmissioner Holden felt that the land.scaping inside the wall did not makeup for bad landscapirig outside of the wall. Camtissioner Drury felt that if the 3' wide strip wasn't wide exx�ugh for trees scme other type of landscaping should be provided. It was maved by CamLissioner Drury, seconded by C.onmissioner Sullivan to c�ntinue this case so that the applicant may restudy the proposal. Carried 5-0 8. C�1SE 1�U• 1419 SA APPLICAN'P (AI�ID ADDRF�S): ALBERT VARC-�AS, (El Jacal), 74-155 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. 7 �rr` ''w�` NLLIVtTPF� ARQ�TE7CiURAL �T�SSI�i JAN�IRY 12, 1988 I�ZURE OF PROJEX,'T/APPROVAL SOUC��: Approval of sign program for new restaurant. LOC�TIO[�i: 74-155 El Paseo (fonner Fort restaurant) ZO[�' Gl Mr. Smith explained that catmission, in study session, rer.am�ended that the red be changed to rust. The applicant indicated that the sign sits back f�m the highway and they wished to have a bright color so that it is visible. It was moved by Catmissioner Dru�ry, seconded by Ca�missioner McC,Yea to approve the proposed signs subject to staff approving revised colors (ie: ivory background and brick red lettering). C2rried 5-0 9. C�1SE ND• 1416 SA APPLIC,11Nr (AI�ID ADDRFS.S): Q-TET'S APPLIANC�, 73-540 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260. 1��JRE OF PROJ�CT/APPR[NAL SOUC�iT: Approval of awning with signage. IAC,�ITI�T: 73-540 Highway 111 ZONE' Gl Commissioner McCrea had an objection to the bright blue color. Catmissioner Sullivan felt the awning was too large and felt that ��Maytag" should be rern�ved. Chairman Gregory felt this was a clo�th sign rather than an awnirzg and that sanething that covers the whole length of the building is riot desirable. He thought that the catmission should direct the applicant to take a different approach. Camtissioner Holden noted the sign lacked design and should tie-in with the building architecture. The applicant indicated that there were similar signs located near this business. He suggested breaking the awnisig into tw�o pieces. Cannission felt this may caork and reca�mended the awning tie-in with the buildi.ng and a softer color be proposed. $ z� � � AR(I�TECiURAL �T�SSI�i JAN[IARY 12, 19$8 It was moved by Camtissioner Drury, seconded by Camtissioner McCYea to continue this case to allaw for restudy. Carried 5-0 10. C�SE IVt�' 1417 SA APPLICANP (AI�ID Ai�RFSS): NEWPORTER TRAVEL, 73-160 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. I�12UItE OF PR�7�C,T/APP�L SCJU(�iT: Appraval of awning with signage. ILX'ATI�T: 73-160 El Paseo ZOI�• Gl Commissioner Druzy asked if the proposed awning was framed or free hangirig. The applicant explained it is to be framed and it will project 24". He noted that the sign was for �t�ro separate businesses. Caimissioner Sullivan felt the tw� businesses should have separate awnirigs rather than one awn-uzg for both. Catmissioner Holden objected less to the proposed color on this particular building. Ccmnissioner Sullivan agreed noting that this awni.rig w�uld be located in a shaded area. It was moved by Catmissioner Holden, seconded by Catmissioner McGYea to aontinue this case for restudy. C�rried 5-0 11. C�SE I�A• PP 87-22 APPLICAI�P (ArID ADDRFSS): EL PASEO C70LLEGTION, 73-061 El Paseo, Suite 5B, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECP/APPROVAL SQJC��: Approval of landscaping and lighting plans. LOCATIO�i: Southeast corner of Highway 74 and E1 Paseo. 7ANE• Gl Mr. Drell presented the proposed landscape plans and indicated that the corner planter had been removed. 9 � � NIINUrFS ARCHIT�CIURIIL �NNIISSI�i � JAN�RX 12, 1988 Cann.issioner Sullivan felt the landscaping along El Paseo should be increased and suggested that the lightirig standards alternate with trees and lights. He reacmmended that the planting area along the east elevation be m�ximized. C�airman Gregozy explained that usually retail buildings will prefer to leave the wind�w areas open and free of landscaping for visibility purposes. N�. Jim Fo�, applicant, indicated that they were txying to create a rhythm and also pravide additianal lighting for safety purposes by havirig the light fixtures. Commissioner Sullivan felt there were other lighting alternatives available. Catmissioner Dnzzy thr�ught that lighting vs. landscaping may not be the answer. She noted that we need to make E1 Paseo successful as a retail strip. CaTmissioner Sullivan felt that with the lack of landscaping proposed it will appear harsh. Calmissioner Drury asked if landscape pots could be pravided on the second floor. Mr. Fo� explained that they had intended to pravide potted trees in the arches on the second story. He rioted that the architect for this project felt the lighting was an integral part of the architectural design. Coimlissioner McC�ea agreed that there were alternatives to lighti.ng. Camtissioner Sullivan suggested using a variety of sizes and �,yp�s of pa]ms in the planter areas. He noted that the planting around the sculpture area was mi ni mal, (�airman GY�egor�r ;nr�;cated they wanted to make this area simple so not to take away f�xn the sculpture. Mr. Fo� info�ied the camtission that he wished to utilize strips of neon lighting on the tvwer roof elements. He explained that they explored several possibilities and the neon seemed to be the most effective. Chairman Gregozy questioned this looking like Christmas lighting. Mr. Fo� felt that it would not appear as Christmas lighting and wr�uld nr�t be very visible to pedestrians. Ca�tissioner Holden had concerns with neon because of its brightness and intensity. He explained that this type of lighting can project light that can block views. 10 - ---- '�rw' w� NIIINUI'ES AR�iITF7C7.URAL �T�SSI�i JANIT�IRY 12, 1988 Mr. Fo� indicated that neon di.umiers are available which he would be willing to use. CamLissioner Drury had no opposition to the lighting of the arches. Calrnissioner McCrea suggested that the tivoly lighti.ng be utilized at the tawers also. Cc�missioner Holden noted that the main concern with this builclirig is the lieight and felt that the lighting on the roof would only accentuate it. Mr. Fo� indicated that he would not object to deleting the lighting. It was maved by Camtiissianer Sullivan, seconded by Commissioner McCxea to grant appraval of landscape plan subject to the alternating of trees and light fixtures. Carried 2-1-2 (Commissioner Drury opposed, C�airman Gregory and CarRdssioner Holden abstaining). It was moved by Cannissioner Dzury, seconded by Camtissioner Sullivan to approve the tivoly lighting on the arches but denying any roof lighting. Carried 2-1-2 (Commissioner McCrea opposed, Chairman Gregory and CaYmissioner Holden abstainiizg). B. P.L�21i mi nans P1aT3S: None IV. NlISCELLAI�IDO[JS: None V. ORAL �T�NiC�TI(�VS: None VI. . The meeting was adjourned at 3:00 p.m. , � A �,^-" � �, r �a :� c.��r ....e.- i.F✓,;�/ � � ��.�l �t/�,� s'1'E�E SNu'1'H, A5 �`' 1Stie t�1c3I1iZP.r' /�g 11