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Home My WebLink About1988-07-12 MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHrrELVURAL CCr44LsSION ZUESDAY - JULY 12, 1988 12:00 P.M. CITY SERVICES DONFERENCE ROOM 73-510 FRED WARDG DRIVE I. The meeting was called to order at 12:00 pm. Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, Chairman x 11 2 Mary Drury x 12 1 Russell McCrea x 9 4 Rick Holden x 11 2 Steve Sullivan x 12 1 Others Present: Catherine Sass Frankie Riddle Steve Smith Ken Weller Brent Conley It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan to approve the minutes of June 28, 1988 with an amendment on page 3, paragraph 1 - Change from Commissioner Holden to Sullivan. Carried 4-0-1 (Commissioner McCrea abstaining). II. Moved by McCrea, seconded by Clammissicner Sullivan to approve the following cases by minute motion. Carried 5-0. 1. CASE NO: 1468 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CHUCK SHAW REALTY, C/O PALMS TO PINES CANVAS, Pinyon Pines, P.O. Box 69, Mountain Center, CA 92361. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awing with signage. LOCATION: 73-520 El Paseo. 7.CNE: C-1 (S.P. ) Condition - only one fluorescent tube for each section of the L-shape. 2. CASE NO: PP 87-14 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RAY-AL ENTERPRISES, 73-170 Ramon Road, Thousand Palms, 0, 92276. °rrn✓ DU29 ES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION JULY 12, 1988 NATURE OF PROJECP/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of carports for office building. LOCATION• 72-800 Fred Waring. ZONE: O.P. Conditions - Posts are to remain steal in lieu of the plaster and be painted, and the fascia plaster is to wrap around to the underside. Commissioner Sullivan abstained. 3. CASE NO: PP 86-4 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MANOR CARE INC., 1940 Old Tustin Ave., Santa Ana, CA 92701. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SCUGM: Revision of landscape plans. LOCATION: Country Club Drive. ZONE: PR-5 4. CASE NO: CUP/PP 87-16 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DENNIS GODECKE, 71-650 Sahara Road, Suite 1, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLXW: Amendment to preliminary approval for office building. LOCATION: Northwest corner of Alessandro and Deep Canyon. ZONE: R-3 Commissioner Holden abstained. 5. CASE NO: PP 86-1 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOSEPH SQUEO, 190 E. Arenas Road, Palm Springs, CA 92262. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary Approval for 10 unit apartment project. 2 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL 00 MIISSICN JULY 12, 1988 LOCATION: South side of Fred Waring Drive - 125 ft. west of San Pascual. ZONE: R-3. 5.0. Commissioner Drury opposed and CbnT issioner Holden abstained. 6. CASE NO: PP 88-11 APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): OTRA III, A LIMITED PARTNERSHIP, 27-252 Calle Arroyo, San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675. INURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of architecture and landscape plan for a 17 unit apartment project. LOCATION: 3 lots on the east side of Sunset Lane between Abronia Trail and El Camino. ZCNE: R-3 Catmissioner Sullivan abstained. 7. CASE NO: 306 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AHMANSON DEVELOPMENT, 1001 Camerce Drive, Building E2, Irwindale, CA 91706. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Amendment to approved sign program-delete orange 2119 and replace with green 2030. LOCATIONI: Northwest corner of Town Center Way and Highway 111. ZONE. PC 3 III. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: CUP 87-10 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ARCO, C/O CRAIG YAMASAKI, 17315 Studebaker Road, Cerritos, CA 90701-1488. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUG": Final working drawings and color board. 3 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL CCTTIISSION JULY 12, 1988 LOCATION: Northwest corner of Highway 111 and Portola Ave. ZONE: C-1 The applicant proposed that the screen wall be masonry instead of stucco so that it can be tied in with the other masonry used on the building. Their main materials are ceramic, stucco and masonry. The ceramic tile stripes will be underneath the overhang. Also, instead of installing a sign perpendicular to each street there will be one at the corner at an angle. State law requires that gas prices be on a sign and visible to the public. As part of the conditional use permit by city council, a water feature was to be added to the project. Because of a lack of space the water feature was placed at the corner as part of the sign. The water feature was approved by Civic Arts Committee, unanimously. Commissioner Drury asked what would happen to the frontage road once Highway 111 is widened. The applicant indicated that the frontage road will be eliminated, and they have had to have Caltrans and City's Public Works Department review their plans, which have been designed with the Highway 111 widening included. It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to approved this case as submitted. Carried 4-0-1 (Chairman Gregory abstained). 2. CASE NO: PP 87-8 APPLICANT (AND ADOFESS): CHAZEN CONSTRUCTION, 72-624 E1 Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of changes to landscape plan for seven unit apartment complex. LOCATION: Portola Ave. at San Jacinto - south of De Anza Way. ZONE: R-2 - 5,000 Ms. Denise Moore informed the commission that because of the addition of the wall and sidewalk this section has not been approved and it is holding up the project. A letter was requested from Ms. Sass indicating exactly what she wanted regarding landscaping improvements to the project, but it was not specific in describing what was wanted. 4 MINUTES ARCHITE 'IURAL OCt4-�IISSION JULY 12, 1988 Commission informed Ms. Moore that it is the project landscape architects responsibility to provide the landscape design and not this commission's or staff's. Ms. Sass indicated that a serpentine wall and a sidewalk have been added to the project since the plans were approved. The landscaping has also changed since the plans have been approved. Mr. Smith asked if the wall was approved before it was constructed. Ms. Sass stated that the wall was not approved prior to construction. Commissioner Holden commented that the commission thought that the landscape plans were barely adequate before. Chairman Gregory indicated that if revised plans were done he would be willing to review then and sign them off and reccmnend staff approval if it was agreeable to commission. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Drury to approve this case subject to Chairman Gregory's and staff approval with the condition that the revised final landscape plans be submitted and the landscaping be at least equivalent in intensity and size of materials to the prior approved plans. Carried 5-0. 3. CASE NO- 1467 SA APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): GANNON CONSTRUCTION, 46 Joya Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of sign program for commercial building. LOCATION: 73-625 Highway 111, Southeast corner of Larkspur and Highway 111. ZONE: C-1 Mr. Smith noted that the applicant is proposing electrical sign cans on the fascia with 8' lettering and three colors. There is no specific signs being requested. The applicant indicated that the drawing is wrong because the signs will fit flush and 'J' boxes are already installed. He stated that there would be zero clearance, they will be right on the beams. 5 DUNLNES ARCI-1ITECIURAL OOMMISSICN JULY 12, 1988 Commissioner Sullivan felt that signs would look added on, because they are being proposed as lighted. Chairman Gregory felt that this type of lighting will emphasize the massiveness of the building and it doesn't need to be emphasized. He would like to see the signs more refined. It was suggested that the signs should fit more with the architecture of the building. It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan to refer this case back to the applicant for further study with a view to the ccmmmmission's concerns, and the submittal of plans that show the actual proposed signage. Carried 5-0. B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO: CUP 88-2 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SCHMITZ EN=PRISES, INC., P.O. Box 3992, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLXM: Preliminary Approval of redesign of a 17 unit senior apartment project. LOCATION: South side of Santa Rosa, 200 feet east of San Pascual Ave. ZONE: R-2, S.O. Commissioner Sullivan would like to see more articulation on the north elevation. The commission commented that second proposed site plan is better than the first one. It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by C m mmissioner Drury to give preliminary approval on the site plan and re-affirm its comments regarding the north elevation described in the June 14, 1988, approved minutes. Carried 5-0. 6 r4 NtT ES ARCHITECTURAL CU44ISSION JULY 12, 1988 IV. WSCELLANBOUS: 1. FENCE AMID WALL STANDARDS. Cam issioner Sullivan felt that there might be a problem with the pallets. He indicated that this section should be expanded to include everything that is acceptable or to state specifically what is not acceptable. There could be a problem when something is submitted that doesn't fit legally into that focus. The commission indicated that nice fences could be done with all materials. It was unanimously agreed by the commission that Item V - Option 1 - i.e. appeals should cane through the Architectural Review Commission. V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: VI. . The meeting adjourned at 2:00 p.m. S R. SMITH, As late P er /fr 7