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12:00 P.M. CCR4]NITY SERVICES OCNFERENCE ROCM
73-510 FM) WARIM DRIVE
I. The meeting was called to order at 12:00 pm.
Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ran Gregory, Chairman X 9 2
Mary Drury X 10 1
Russell McCrea X 8 3
Rick Holden X 9 2
Steve Sullivan X 10 1
Others Present: Catherine Sass
FYankie Riddle
Steve Smith
Ken Weller
Phil Drell
Brent Conley
It was moved by Commissioner Sullivan, seconded by Commissioner Holden to
approve the minutes of May 24, 1988, subject to amendment on Case No. 1460 SA
- That -the case was denied, because of incompatibility in shape and color with
the adjacent awning; Case No. PP 87-20 - clarify that the reduction of glazing
was on the ocnmercial building. Carried 3-0-1 (Chairman Gregory abstaining).
II. Moved by t',lrnrni i nrwr Dniry, seOaided by tflr i�i . Sullivan to approve
the following cases by minute motion. Carried 4-0.
1. CASE NO: 1341 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): TCBY YOGURT, 44-491 Town Center Way, Unit
B, Palm Desert, CA 92260; JEFF WARD, 28764 Live Oak Rd., High Land,
CA 92346.
NATURE OF PRWECP/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Change in approved color scheme
for Center Sign Program.
LOCATION: Pad 5, 111 Town Center.
ZONE: Pc (3) S.P.
Approved with the condition that the quotation marks around Tr-BY be
deleted.
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2. CASE ND: PP 87-11
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): NELSON DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, INC., P.O.
Box 300, La Quinta, CA 92253.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of materials and
colors.
LOCATIONi: Magnesia Falls Drive, approximately 700 feet east of
Portola Avenue.
ZONE: PR-7
3. CASE NO: PP 88-1
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): LAKES COUNTRY CLUB, C/O ASL CONSULTING
ENGINEERS, 960 E. Tahguitz Way, Suite 204, Palm Springs, CA 92262.
NATURE OF PROJBCr/APPROVAL SOU(3HT: Golf Course Attendant
buildings (Gazebo, restroans, starter shack, pump house).
LOCATICN: New 9 hole golf course at the Lakes Country Club.
ZONE: PR-4
4. CASE NO: 306 C - PAD 9
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOHN ASH A. I .A. ASSOCIATES, 3600
Wilshire Blvd., Suite 420, Los Angeles, CA 90010.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUC3iT: Preliminary Approval for Pad
9 at 111 Town Center.
LOCATION: Highway 111 and Town Center Way.
ZONE: PC-3
(Chairman Gregory abstained. )
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III. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO- 306 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): L' ECLAIR, 44-491 Town Center Way, Palm
Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJE)CT/APPROVAL SOLXW: Request to approve a door in
east elevation facing Town Center Way.
LOCATION: Suite E, Pad 5.
ZONE: PC (3) S.P.
Mr. Smith indicated that staff recommends denial of the second door,
because it is not an emergency fire exit and a second exit is not
required.
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner
Sullivan to deny this case. Carried 4-0.
2. CASE NO- 339 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MIDORI RESTAURANT, 73-759 Hwy 111,
Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of blue tile
parapet roof and wood trellis structure on east elevation.
LOCATION: South side of Frontage Road west of Union 76.
ZONE: C-1
The commission was concerned the color (blue mansard tile) of the
parapet and that it is only extending half the length of the roof.
The representative indicated that the owner liked the blue used on
the Great American building, which he is proposing and that the
owner is extending the parapet to his boundary. The existing
over-hang is being proposed as part of the wood trellis.
Commissioner Sullivan and Chairman Gregory were opposed to the
trellis as proposed. Commissioner Sullivan was concerned that it was
built before it was approved by the commission.
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Mr. Weller indicated that the building department's concern is that
the trellis is to close to the property line.
It was moved by Catmissicner Drury, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan
to continue this case for redesign on the parapet structure to show
that it can carry the weight being proposed, applicant to meet with
the building department to study the setback and fire code
requirements on the trellis, and submit plans showing the change to
the front of the building with the implementation of the side entry
doors. Carried 4-0.
3. CASE NO: 340 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PAT & BOB BONNETT CONSTRUCTION CO.,
145 Dillon Ave., Campbell, CA 95008.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Exterior remodel of existing
building including awning and mansard with planters, landscape
upgrade and paint.
LOCATION: 73-965 and 955 Highway 111.
ZONE: C-1, S.P.
Camrtussianer Sullivan indicated that the renderings and the working
drawings are different. He also wanted to know what was being done
to the store front. He liked the drawings showing the series of
awnings and columns.
The applicant stated that the one with the series of awnings is the
existing design and the plan showing one continuous awning is the one
he is proposing. He feels that this will fit better with the
existing awnings and signage.
It was moved by Commissioner Sullivan, seconded by Commissioner
Drury to give preliminary approval with the direction that the
working drawings be restudied and show the proposed awnings on the
front and back elevations, show changes to the store front and a
sample of the proposed colors and materials for the awnings and
building be submitted. Carried 3-0-1 (Commissioner Holden
abstained).
4. CASE NO: PP 86-4
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MANOR CARE, INC. , 1940 Old Tustin
Ave., Santa Ana, CA 92701.
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NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Revision of approved
landscape plans.
LOCATION: Country Club Drive.
ZONE: PR-5
Mr. Smith indicated that because of the changes they will be starting
from the preliminary nary stage.
Chairman Gregory felt that additional plant materials were needed in
the large open areas.
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Ccmnissioner Drury to
continue this case for restudy of on site water retention areas,
either change sloe material to a ground cover that can retain the 2
to 1 slope, or re-engineer so that the area can retain a 3 to 1 slope
and additional tree planting should be provided adjacent to the side
roads and rear. Carried 4-0.
B. preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: CUP 88-2
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SCHMITZ ENTERPRISES, INC., P.O. Box
3992, Palm Desert, CA 92261.
NATURE OF PROTECT/APPROVAL SC LXM: Preliminary nary Approval of a 17
unit senior apartment project.
LOCATION: South side of Santa Rosa, 200 feet east of San
Pascual Ave.
ZONE: R-2, S.O.
Commissioner Sullivan asked what the surrounding development was in
this area. Ms. Sass indicated that it is R-2 units that are mostly
deteriorating.
Camussioner Holden felt that there should be windows on the street
elevation and Chairman Gregory felt that the site plan can be
better arranged.
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Ms. Sass indicated that the entrance area will need to be widened by
7 feet and will result in the deletion of some of the landscaping.
Chairman Gregory felt that by retaining the existing structure and
the density that they want seems excessive and makes the site
croweded.
It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded. by Commissioner Sullivan
to continue this case for restudy of the site plan for a more
practical and appealing use of the site and that something be done on
the north elevation possibly with the addition of windows. Carried
4-0.
The recommendation of the architectural commission will be taken
to the planning commission on this case.
2. CASE NO: PP 86-1
APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): JOSEPH SQUEO, 190 E. Arenas Road, Palm
Springs, CA 92262.
NATURE OF PROJEC,T/APPRWAL SCUM: Preliminary Approval for 10
unit apartment project.
LOCATICN: South side of Fred Waring Drive - 125 ft. west of San
Pascual.
ZC NE: R-3. S.O.
Concerns of the commission were the entry being to far over to the
west and the landscape median in the middle of the entrance lane
partially blocking access to the first two unit garages.
Commissioner Sullivan indicated that while there was plenty of open
area on the east side of the project, there was very little on the
west side for backyard area. He further indicated that he did not
understand the motive for the walkway on the west side. The
applicant indicated that there was no real purpose for it, but
another entrance into the project and is 5 feet wide. The applicant
indicated that it could be reduce to 3 feet or eliminated to create
additional open space area on the west.
Another concern of the commission was that once inside the project
all people will see is asphalt and garages. There is plenty of
landscaping, but it is all in the open area located on the outside
of the project. It was felt that there should be a break somewhere
to implement additional landscaping on the inside of the project.
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It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Drury to
continue this case to restudy three areas: 1) The moving of the
entrance and first two units to the east; 2) The entrance landscape
median either be reduced or eliminated;m;noted; and 3) Pull the project out
some to implement additional landscaping on the inside of the
project. Carried 4-0.
Commissioner Holden questioned Mr. King's licensure. It was his
understanding that only an architect could prepare plans for a 10
unit development. He noted that the title block did not include the
name of the licensed architect.
Mr. King assured commission that he is working under the direct
supervision of a licensed person.
3. CASE NO: PP 86-22 (Amendment)
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): USA FAIRFIELD REALTY FUND, 3179 Temple
Ave., Suite 170, Pomona, CA 91768.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPFDVAL SOLXW: Preliminary Approval for a
150 unit senior housing project.
LOCATICN: 7.25 ac. south side of Country Club, 1600 east of
Monterey Ave.
7.CNE: PR-5, S.O.
It was noted that the design of the club house was different than
that of the apartment units and there is an addition of a pool.
Commissioner Sullivan felt that the club house did not provide
architectural continuity with the apartment units.
Commissioner Drury asked if another pool could be added to the
common open space area and if a barbecue area and shaded areas were
contained in the plans. The applicant indicated that a barbecue
area and shade areas have not been added to the plans at this time.
The applicant indicated that when they designed the project they
incorporated the recreational facilities they thought were needed.
He further indicated that another pool could be added, but it might
not be economically feasible. He noted that the current pool is a
lap pool. Additional open space areas have been allowed for more
facilities.
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It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Chairman Gregory to
give preliminary approval with the condition that the recreational
building and recreational area be changed to match that of the
apartment units. If their market study shows that they do not need
additional recreational facilities, or they have the room to add
those items at a latter date then this flexibility can be given on a
senior project. Carried 3-1 (Commissioner Holden opposed).
4. CASE NO: PP 88-3
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MARVIN-DAVID INVESTMENTS, 345 E1
Portal, Palm Springs, CA 92262.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary Approval for
15,450 sq. ft. retail building.
LOCATION: Southwest comer of E1 Paseo and Sage.
ZONE: C-1
Mr. Drell indicated that a new building is being proposed, with an
identical site plan as the one originally approved.
The new building will have a 12 foot wide light brown tile paver
walkway between the buildings. A darker color of brown was
suggested.
Commissioner Drury asked how the building elevation on the new
building is different in the new building from the old building. Mr.
Clemente indicated that all building elevation would have 6" steps,
but all the changes will occur on the inside of the building.
Mr. Grotbeck of the E1 Paseo Business Association expressed his
opposition to this building. He felt that the building is not
compatible with the existing development at this location. He will
be making a formal recommendation to the E1 Paseo Business
Association on his position to the project.
It was noted that Mr. Grotbeck is representing himself at this time.
The El Paseo Business Association has not seen the new plans on this
project.
Commissioner Drury felt that people like to see a diversity in
building design and architecture when they shop. She does not have a
problem with the buildings architecture or its location.
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Chairman Gregory indicated that buildings can be joined together
by similar landscaping and sidewalk paving.
It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Ccmmissioner Gregory
to give preliminary approval with the condition that a continuous
theme be implemented to tie this building in with the adjacent
development. Carried 4-0.
IV. .
V. ORAL CXYM4MC ATICNS:
Commissioner Drury indicated that the anonymous letter the commission
received should be looked into.
It was recommended that staff be directed to look into the concerns
addressed in the letter.
It was recommended that Commissioner Cook be presented with a plaque
for his service to the Architectural Review CamLission.
Also noted was that Mr. Goodman needs to submit the plans on his carport
to the comtission.
Mr. Weller advised the commission that the matter was in hand and he
would report back at next meeting.
VI. .
The meeting adjourned at 2:50 p.m.
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