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Z[�llAY - F�RY 28, 1989
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I. The meeting was called to order at 12:00 pn.
Catmission M�ibers C'�arrent Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ron Gregory, C�aizman X 4 0
Mazy Dnzry X 4 0
Russell McCrea X 4 0
Rick Holden X 4 0
Steve Sullivan X 4 0
Others Present: Pat Bed.rosian
Frankie Riddle
Catherine Sass
Steve Smith
Phil Drell
Phil Jc7y
Ken Weller
It was moved by Commissioner Sullivan, seconded by Commissioner Drury to
approve the minutes of Februazy 14, 1989, meeting were appraved as submitted.
Carried 5-0.
II. Moved by CYmn;s5�aner Sulliva�n, seo�or�rled by DnuY -bo ap�ve
the follo�w:ing cases by mimrte mc�ticn. Carried 5-0.
1. C�1SE 1�U• PP 86-28
APPLICANr (ArD A�RFSS): AfIl�1F�NSON CCNff'ANY, 1123 Parkview Drive,
Suite 360, Covina, CA 91724.
NATURE OF Pf�7F]C,T/APPI�7VAL SQ]Q-�; Final Approval of landscape
plans for pad 8.
IACATI�T: To�wn Center Way and Highway 111.
7�' P.C. (3), S.P.
C�airman Gregozy abstained.
2. C'ASE IVC): 1562 SA
APPLICANP (A1�D ADDRESS): ALIBABA FARZANEfi, 40-345 Sagewood Drive,
Palm Desert, CA 92260; DAVID FL�'I'C'�iIIt, 73-061 El Paseo, Palm Desert,
CA 92260.
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I�TURE OF PRO►7F]CP/A�PRUVAL SOUC,��: Signage of restaurant.
IACATIoIv: Southeast corner of Highway 74 and El Paseo.
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3. CASE 1�A' SF
APPLIC�NP (Al�ID ADDRFSS): B.G. JONASSON & ASSOCIATES, 44-655 San
BerLito Circle, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
I�7VRE OF PRUJ�C,T/APPROVAL SOUC3�I': Single family height review.
IACATIQIv: 73-637 Pinyr�n Street, Palm Desert.
7�• R-1 (20)
Chairnlan Gregory abstained.
III. C�1SFS•
A. Fir�31 Dra�wing5:
1. CASE NO• 1485 SA
APPLIC�NP (AI�D ADDRESS): D & A SHADE �ANY, (For Pacific Spa &
Bath), P.O. Box 417, Palm Springs, CA 92262.
I�,ZURE OF PRQ7FJCT/APPRQVAL 90[X��: Reconsideration of instructions
to correct installation error.
I,OCATIO[�i: 73-446 Highway 111.
7.0[�iE: C-1, S.P.
The applicant infornted the cannission that the installed awning is
not what they had previously approved. The framer who built and
installed e�isting awnirig felt that having the awning attached to the
under side of the aver-harig would not be sturdy enough. Applicant is
requesting appraval of the existing awning as is.
CamLissioner Holden indicated that the awning was approved as under
the existing over-hang for a better aesthetic architectural look and
so that it was more compatible with the building architecture.
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It was moved by Commissioner Sullivan, sec;onded by Carmissioner
McCrea to de.ny this case for restudy, because it does rr�t conform to
the original appraval. Carried 5-0.
Mr. Bedrosian asked the carm.ission if the awning was allowed to
r�nain until it has b�az appealed to city council. The canni.ssion
agreed that the awnuzg c�ld r�nain until the case was appealed to
city council, but an appeal must be filed within 15 days or it must
cane dav,nz.
2. CASE IVC)• 1555 SA
APP'LICANP (ArD ADDRFSS): PALMS TO PINES C`.ANVAS, (Midori's), Pinyon
Pines, P.O. Box 69, Nbuntain Center, CA 92361.
I�IZURE OF P�CT/APPROVAL SO[]Q�: Approval of sideyard trellis and
awning with signage.
I�OCATIC�T: 73-759 Highway 111.
7.O1�• Gl, (S.P. )
Mr. Weller indicated that the applicant is proposing to cut the
txellis, on the east side of the building, back to within 3 feet of
the property line and cut the rafters off at the property line.
s��;lding and Safety cloes not have any problem with this action and
will issue a permit if approved.
Catmissioner Sullivan indicated that here again there is probl�ns
with the awnirig graphically. He suggested that both ends of the
awrLing be continued from one end of the building front to the other.
Comnissioner Holden felt that all awriings an arie building should
be constructed to wr�rk as one element.
Commissioner Dnzzy felt that the green of the old trellis vaould not
match that of the new awnings. She feels that the colors and fabric
of the awning and the trellis sh�ould match. She does not have a
problem with the triangular drop as opposed to the box drop.
Camtissioner Holden preferred the box drop. Also, asked if the
parapet sign was aaning �i.
It was maved by Caimissioner Druzy, seconded by Cotmtissioner McCYea
to apprave this case, subject to the follawing conditions: Removal
of the parapet sign; side windaw awning to be box shape and be the
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same fabric and color as the awning fronting on Highway 111; and that
the frna�t awning be a solid box shape, excluding the scallops and
white braiduzg at tl� bottan. It should also return at both end.s
where the stoa�e is to the fascia; lettering to be 8 inches; and
supports for the trellis to be 2 x 6 plant-o�.s. Clarification of
con�ditions are list belaw. Carried 4-1 (Commissioner Sullivan
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Qannissi�r Holden clarified the conditions as follaws: That all
it�ns abave be corirpleted and installed at the same time. The
applicant is to sutrnit a signed approval fran the building owner of
the catmissions approval and required modificatian, if ariy changes
are requested.
3. (�SE ND• 1533 SA
APPLICANP (A1�ID ADDRESS): D & A SHADE 0�'lPANY, (For David of
London), 68-704 Perez Road, Cathedral City, CA 92236.
I�LATURE OF PROJH7C,T/APPROVAL SO[JC�iT: Consic�ration of revised signage
on awning.
IAC'ATI�I: 73-700 Highway 111.
Z.�: Gl, S.P.
Mr. Drell indicated that this is the awnuig with the 30 inch letters
that the aannissi� did r�t apprave. The awriing design is similar
to th�e previous propos� awni.rig.
The applicant indicated that the existing awni.ng was installed
incorrectly because of a miscanrnu�icatian between them and the sign
company. The current request is for 12 inch lettering for the
signage. The existing awning is cavered per c�tmissiaris directian.
A representative for the buildirig awner addressed the caimissi� to
request, per cx�mers wishes, that the e,xisting awning be res�ved as
soon as possible, since it needs to be renioved anyway. The awner
approved the prior proposed awning, but riot the one on the building
no�w.
The applicant stated that the current awning cloes allaw them sane
kind of identification and a lanc�trnark for people to locate the
business. If the awning was removed, there would be no
identification and no sun protection for the products that are
displayed in the front winday.
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Camtissioa�er Drury asked if the neon sign in the wiridaw was going to
be renx7ved. The applicant stated that it would be renioved if the
caamissian requested.
It was moved by CamLissioner Dn�ry, seconded Cptm.issioner McCYea to
cantinue this case for 30 days to allaw the applicant to bring back a
scaled drawing of the awning with signage and a signed approval by
the building awner of the proposal. The awning is to remain covered
until another awning has been appraved. Carried 5-0.
4. C�,SE N0: 1559 SA
APPLIC?►NP (Al�D ADiDRESS): PAL�N1 DESERT REALTY, 74-280 Highway 111,
Palm Desert, CA 92260.
NATURF OF PRQJF7CP/APPI�VAL, 9QX��T: Approval of an awning with
signage an the face of the building.
IACATIQ�i: 74-280 Highway 111.
ZOI�' C-1, S.P.
Ms. Sass indicated that the request is for an 18 inch, viriyl sign on
an alwninum frame, 12 inch lettering in white. The proposed signage
is 19 feet long, extending across t,he front of the building, which is
25 feet long and facing Highway 111.
The applicant noted that the neighboririg business projects out
appraximately 5-7 feet and people travelirig Highway 111 canr�ot see
PaLn Desert Realty because of this.
Caimissioner I�olden felt that signs should not be designed and
installed to gain the attenti� of drivers traveling � Highway 111.
It was maved by Comni.ssioner Dnary, seconded by Cortnu.ssioner McCxea
to continue this case for submittal of a scaled drawim� of the
proposed awning and signage. Carried 5-0.
5. C�.SE NU� 1561 SA
APPLI(�►NP (AI�ID AD�RES.S): COLUMBIA SAVINGS & LOAN, 8900 Wilshire
Blvd., Second Floor, Beverly Hills, CA 90211.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPRQVAL S(x�; Replacemerit of center I.D.
monument sign.
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LOQ1TI�i: Southv,rest corner of Highway 111 and Highway 74.
7�: PC-3, S.P.
Mr. Drell stated that the center identification mQnwn�nt sign is
being proposed as reading "Columbia Center and underneath that
Ebans' Interiors". This sign is located at the corner of Highway
111 and Highway 74. Nothing is proposed for the E1 Paseo sign.
Commissioner Holden stated that the camtission has denied this
request before or� the grounds that a m�nument sign should only
list the complex name or teriant name. Also, fran an aesthetic point
of view a horizontal sign vs. a vertical is preferred.
It was moved by Catmissioner Divey, seconded by Ccamissioner Sullivan
to cantinue this case until the standard guidelines have been
established for awnings, signs and signage. C��rried 5-0.
6. (�SE N�D: 1529 SA (Amer�.nt 1)
APPLICANP (A1�D AD�RFSS): MIC�-1AII, GRAY, (Saint John Knits), 17422
Derian Ave., Irvine, CA 94713.
I�,Z[JRE OF PROJDC,T/APPRCx7AL SOUC�iT: Revision of awning approval
with signage.
I�1TI�i: Southeast corner of El Paseo and Highway 74.
ZOI�• Gl
Mr. Drell stated that the original approval was for a 5 inch logo at
the base. The current request is for the addition of the word
"Boutique" in 2 inch letters between the logos, in bold script
lettering. The w�ord "Boutique" and th�e logo are proposed one time at
each end of the awning and 8 times across the front of the awning for
a total of 10 times.
It was maved by Caimissioner Drux.y, seconded by Caimissioner McCYea
to approve this case as submitted. Carried 4-1 (Commissioner
Sullivan opposed).
7. CASE I�U• 1560 SA
A�'PLIC� (Ai�ID A�RF�.S): RON OLIPH�IV'I', (Century 21 Flnery). P.O.
Box 522, Whitewater, CA 92282.
I�i2[JRE OF PRp.7�GT/APPROVAL StXX�iT: Awning and wall signage.
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IACATI�I: 73-130 El Paseo (rear).
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Mr. Drell stated that the proposed signage is aver the allawed
signage area, therefore, caim.ission will not be able to approve it.
He felt that out of the twn can signs and the awning he preferred the
awning.
Chairnian Gregory felt that the awning with signage should be adequate
for this bui.lding and that the ttiao can signs could be deleted.
It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Catmissioner
Sullivan to apprave the awnuzg, only, and signage with a maxim�un
letter size of 18 in,ches and illuminated material. If the applicant
feels that the two can signs are needed for signage, he may file an
appeal to city council. Carried 5-0.
B. Fl�li mi nary P13T1S:
1. CASE 1�A: PP 88-10 (Amer�nent 2)
APPLIC�NP (At�D ADDRF�.S): RAY LACERTE, 72-880 Fred Waring Drive
Suite 14, Palm Desert, CA 92260; C��ARLES MARTIN, 40-840 Thunderbird
Road, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270.
I�,ZURE OF p1�7EX,T/APPI�OVAL 90[��: Prel�minary plans of a 19,263
square foot office ca�lex.
IAC�TI�i: Sauthwest of Fred Waring Drive and San Luis Drive.
ZC�� Request for O.P.
Mr. Jay gave the salient points of the project.
Mr. Martin addressed the concerns express by oannission duririg the
study session. The berm on the southerly portion of the project;
screening of roof equipnent; west building elevation of the building
facirig Fred Waring Drive; and the proposed building colors.
Mr. Martin r�oted that the benn�d area facing San Luis Drive has a
setback of 20 feet, and that the building sets back 90-100 feet
from Fred Waring Drive. The southerly beYm can rap around the
corner and trail off; a swale at the bottom of the berm will allow
drainage to San Luis Drive. The roof equipmP,nt will be screened and
the buildirig colors will actually be a clarker braam than what is
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shawn in the drawirigs. Additio�al architectural detailing will be
adclecl to the north builclirig elevation of the western most building.
Chazen will be adding carports in front of the west elevati�. Also,
all the compact parking spaces have been changed to full size parking
spaces. Between the pilasters logs will extend across the top and
have sand blasted, cu�oden signs hanging fran them for signage.
(�ai�z Gregory asked why a parking easement between this project
and the (�azen Developnerit was ryot imple.�nented. Mr. Jc7y noted that
Chazen would lose 5 parkirig spaces, which would have to be picked-up
by the adjacent p�operty cxaner. Also, why isn't the block wall
qoiryg to be remav�ed. The block wall beloaigs to at�other property
awner.
Catmissioner Drury asked if all three bu.ildings would be built at
the same time. Mr. Martin responded that all three buildings w�uld
be built at the same time.
It was maved by CamLissioner Holden, seconded by Conm.issioner McC,'Y�ea
to approve this case � a conceptual basis, subject to the follawing
conditiar�s: Additional architectural detailing on the nQrth building
elevation on the western most building; proper screeriing of roof
equipnent; and that the southerly berm rap around the corner and
trail off. Carried 5-0.
IV. MISC�:
l. CASE I�A• PP 85-5
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CHARTER CONIl�IUNITIES, (Hacienda De
Nbnterey), 3940 Old Tawn Ave., San Diego, CA 92110.
I�,'IURE OF PRUJ�CP/APPROVAL SOIJC�: Approval of inet,t�od.s to cover
roof top equipnerit.
LOCATIQI: East side of Nbnterey Ave., 600 feet north of San
Gorgonio Way.
7.Ol�lE• S.O.
Mr. Reynolds suhni.tted elevation plans for the screening of the roof
equipment and stucco coated styrnfoam material proposed to screen
the roof equip�t�ent with sane typ� of design. The architect suggested
that the elevations facing Manterey, Royal Palms and San Anselmo
Intersections and both of those entire court yard buildings be
screened with the submitted material. He suggested that the air
conditiorLirig units an the first floor elevations be painted.
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Comnissit�er Holden felt that tY�e proposed material would be adequate
for the sec�d-story areas, but not for the ane-story areas. He was
concerned that the catmissioa� does not have the authority to approve
the painting of the units and should not apprave it. Mr. Drell
indicated that he would check into having the city council go
out and inspect the painted air conditi� units. If they did not
apprave the painted units on the lo�wer elevations, then thase units
w�uld also have to be screened.
Mr. Drell asked if the height of the builduzg was confirn�ed per
requirement. N�. Reyn�olds stated that the lx.�ilding height does
conform to height requir�ts.
Ca�missianer Holden asked if elevatioa�s facing streets or backyards
are to be revietived. Elevatiar�s facing adjacent properties are to be
reviewed. Also, the parapets are not cantinuous and look as thpugh
they are anly located at the end.s. Mr. Reyrx�lds indicated that the
parapets were only added to the two court yards. Calmissioner Holden
tYwught that at the adjourned meeting ccnm.ission had discussed the
rx�t having the lawer side elevations screened because the line of
site would be screened when vi� fran the higher side of the
project, which is the south side elevation.
Ca�missioner Dnazy asked if the stucco material can be appraved as
being used an all the elevations. Mr. Reynolds n�ted that he can
screen the sauth, east and west elevations.
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Comnissioner
Sullivan to apprave the stucco coated, styrofoam material parapets
around all second-story elevations; city council to apprave the
painted air conditioning units on the one-story elevations. If
council does not approve painted units, they will also have to be
screened. Carried 4-0-1 (C�airn�z Gregory abstained).
Mr. Reynolds also requested approval for the r�val of the existing
vaood fence and the construction of a block wall in its place. Block
wall to be painted the same color as the block wall on Monterey.
Charter Cannunities will be responsible for the maintenance of the
wall. Comnission stated that this could be approved by staff.
V. ORAL �IIVICATIQZS:
Ms. Sass updated the catmissian an the median landscaping an Hovley Lane
at the Marriott golf course. The reason n� median landscapi.ng plan was
included was because public w�orks tY�ught they could use the money that
would be received f�an Marriott to pay for the construction of the street,
and as there was developmerit on the south that money could be used to
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install the med.ian. This way there vx�uld be four travel lanes rx�w instead
of two travel lanes and half of a median.
Mr. Drell infonned the camtissian that because city council is having
scme probl�ns with scme of the awnings, signs and signage that has bee,n
approved, one of the councilme�nbers suggested that the architectural
comni.ssi� rx�t apprave any of the aforementioazed until a standard guide
line has been established and approved by city council.
The cami,ission felt that in sane cases they could rx�t put off approval
until a standard guideline has been established, but aontraversial
cases will be postponed until the guidelines have been approved.
VI. .
The meeting adjourned at 2:45 p.m.
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