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Home My WebLink About1989-03-14 �' � N�V[T1�S PAi�i DF�T QNMISSIQ�i �AY - N�i 14, 1989 12:00 P.M. SIIZVICF� �E I�Cl�4 73-510 FRID T�RIl� DRIVE � � * �t �r � � � � � �c �t � * �c �c �c * �c � �c �c * �c � � �t * � * � � * � * � � � �c I. The meeting was called to order at 12:00 pn. Camtission M�nbers Gtarrent Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, ChaiYman X 5 0 M�y Drury X 5 0 Russell McCrea X 5 0 Rick Holden X 5 0 Steve Sullivan X 5 0 Others Present: Pat Bedrosian F`rankie Riddle Catherine Sass Ken Weller Brent Conley It was moved by Catmissioner Drury, seconded by Comnissioner McCY�ea to approve the minutes of the February 28, 1989, meeting as amended. Carried 5-0. II. Moved by I�Dlde31, seo❑nded bY Dru�Y � appmov� -the follawing ca.ses by mir�oute m�tiori. Carried 5-0. 1. CASE NO• PP 86-28 APPLICANP (AI� ADDRFSS): AHIKANSON OUI��'ANY, 1123 Parkview Drive, Suite 360, Covina, CA 91724. NATURE OF PR0�7�(,T/APP�L SQ��: Revised building elevations resulting fran city council call up on pad 8. I�OCATI�i: Tawn Center Way and Highway 111. 7ANE' P.C. (3), S.P. Chainnan Gregory abstained. 2. CASE NO• PP 89-4 APPLICANP (ArID ADDR�'S.S): OTRA III, LTD., 27-252 Calle Arroyo, San Juan Capistrar�o, CA 92675. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary Approval of architectural and landscape plans for an 11 unit apar�nP.nt project. '�+a" `�rr N�PF� ARQIIT�CIUR�IL QM4IISSI�T N�RQ3 14, 1989 I,OC�TI(�I: Bounded be El Camino, Sunset Lane and Abronia Trail. 7.O1�• R-3 Camtissioner Sullivan abstained. III. C�►SFS• •A. Final Drawings: l. CASE NO• 1563 SA APPLIC'ANP (ArD ADDRFS.S): TAE KWON-DO CII�PER, 72-695 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260. I�ZURE OF PRU7�CT/APPRC�TAL SO[X�iT: Business identification sign. I�OCATIO[�t: 72-695 Highway 111, Suite A6 (Van's Center). ZO[�: PC (3) Ms. Sass indicated that the sign has already been installed and is a red on yellau color. The applicant's business is part of a corporatiari, which app�aves signs and colors for the business. CaYmission info�ned the applicant that the policy requ.ires that signs be appraved by the architectural comnission prior to installation. It was asked if the applicant received the building awners appraval. Ms. Sass indicated that the application was signed. CaYmission noted that application could have been signed by the leasing agent. Caimissioner Drury felt t,hat the sign should be covered until another sign has been approved. She recarmerid�d that the sign colors be changed to be more compatible with the existing signs (i.e. bra�m or rust on ivory background). C�airnlan Gregory asked the other catmissioners if they were opposed to the design or signage of the sign. Commissioners were not opposed to the design or signage of the sign. Chairman Gregory was in accord with Catmissioners Druzy's in regards recatunended sign colors. Ms. Sass indicated that the cannission also needed to review the tw� action pictures, which are installed on the i.nside of the glass in the windows. The pictures will be considered art w�ork unless otherwise detexmi.ried by catmission. Commissioner Sullivan felt 2 � � NIINUPFS ARCHITF7CI[)I2AL CCNT�SSI�i N�RC�i 14, 1989 since the signage reflected what Tae Kwon-Do is it should be considered a form of signage and should be removed. Chairman Gregory was rx�t as opposed to the pictures as he was the signage on the winc�cxas. As stated in the staff report, windaw signage and t�rary grand opening banner must be remaved no later than April 1, 1989. It was m�ved by Caimissioner Dnazy, seconded by Catmissioner McCYea to retunz this case to the applicant for restudy of the sign colors to be canpatible (bravn or rust lettering with ivory background) with the existing signs. Revisions to the sign must be brought back before the caTmissian for approval prior to installation and within 30 days or the present sign must be r�aved. Ca.rried 5-0. It was moved by Commissioner Sullivan, seconded by Cannissioner Holden to deny the Tae Kwon-Do action pictures in the window. Carried 4-1 (Catmissioner McGYea opposed). B. Preliminary P1alI]S: 1�i01�1E IV. MLS(�GI,Al�i�XJS: l. CASE NO• 1561 SA APPLICANP (AI�ID ADDRFS.S): COLUN�IA SAVINGS & LOAN, 8900 Wilshire Blvd., Second Floor, Beverly Hills, CA 90211. NATURE OF PROJEGT/APPl�7VAL SOUC��P: Replacement of center I.D. monument sign. LOG�TIo[�T: Southwest corner of Highway 111 and Highway 74. ZOI�: PC-3, S.P. It was moved by CaYmissioner DruYy, seconded by Calmissioner Sullivan to place Coltunbia Center an the agenda for general discussion. Ca.rried 5-0. The applicant outlined the new proposal for the Highway 111/Highway 74 mon�nt sign and the E1 Paseo directory sign. The request for the Highway 111\Highway 74 is that cam�ission apprave a manument sign that will read "Coliunbia Center and a tenant name underneath", and that they approve it with unl�xxan tenant name, to be decided on at a 3 � � N1I1VITrFS ARC�IIZ�7CIUfiAL C�T�IISSIC�T N�RQ-I 14, 1989 later date. The signage will advertise interior businesses that due not have stxeet visibility. The El Paseo Sign directory sign will read "Colwnbia Center and three interior tenant names", which do riot have street visibility. Catmissioner Holden felt that moniunent signs should be installed. per ordinance requirements as established by the city. The ordinance basically reads that monument signs may have either the center name or a major tenant n�ne, but rx�t both. Camtissioner DruYy felt that the Highway 111/Highway 74 monument sign shQuld have Colwnbia Center anly. The El Paseo directory sign could list three interior tenarit names but not Coltmibia Center. Colors for the signs could be discussed at a later date. Commission felt that having t� monument signs reading "Coli.unbia Center" and one menu sign � the inside of the parking lot area listing 6 or 7 of the tenants (such as the Von's Center) would be acceptable. A representative fran The George Elki.r�s CJa�pany, present to support sign proposal, suggested that entrance an E1 Paseo be placed on the Highway 111/Highway 74 monuanent sign. V. ORAL ��CATI�S: Mr. Bedrosian asked for clarification an whether the awning on Randy's Cafe was approved with signage or if signage was approved on the building fascia. Cannission could riot remember exactly haw they had approved the signage. Commission stated that the owner of the cafe will have to present ck�cwnents showing architectural catmissi�'s approval of signage on the building fascia. Until then it will be ass�uned that signage was not approved on the building. Ms. Sass submitted an interim policy for awnings for the calm.issions review. Commissianer Sullivan felt that sane of the wr�rds in the report were ambiguous. The report should be more specific. Mr. Weller indicated that he has received requests approving smaller letteririg height for commercial address signage, but the ordinance requires 7 inch letters for aamlercial. 4 � �� NII1V[tI� ARQIITF]CI�7RAi, �2'�SSIC�i N�RC�i 14, 1989 The policy allaws 8 inch maxim�ml letter height rx�t to exceed one-thir'd of awning height for signage, and 4 inches in height for addresses. Mr. Bedrosian rr�ted that signs and awnings proposed with 8 inch letters for signage with 4 inch letters req�.Lired for address might make the sign look disproportianate. He felt that in these situation the signage �uld be reviewed on an individual basis. VI. . The meeting adjourned at 2:00 p.m. � P 'lip D 11, Senior Planner /fr 5