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Home My WebLink About1989-09-12 i NDTATTFS UEMAY - SEPrEMMt 12, 1989 12:00 P.M. AEMBUSTRATIW SERVICES CCNFERENCE ROC14 73-510 FR® W RING DRIVE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I. The meeting was called to order at 12:00 pm. Catmission Members Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Rai Gregory, Chairman X 16 0 Mary Dreary X 15 1 Russell McCrea X 15 1 Rick Holden X 16 0 Steve Sullivan X 13 3 Others Present: Ray Diaz Phil Drell Phil Joy Steve Smith Pat Bedrosian Frankie Riddle Brent Conley It was moved by Camui.ssia-er Drury, secalded by Camdssiazer McCrea to approve the minutes of the August 8, 1989, as submitted. Carried 5-0. II. moved by C m i ssircnes Sullivan, seconded by Comffdssicner NbCiea to approve the following cases by mimrbe motion. Carried 5-0. 1. CASE NO: 1612 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PUCCI'S OF PALM DESERT N MW OF PRWECT/APPROVAL SOUNT• Awning sign. T :5mON: 75-725 El Paseo 7CNE• C-1 2. CASE NO: 1616 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): FRED FERN, 73-061 El Paseo, Suite 205, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NLs►M= OF PRDJWr/APPRUM SOUGHT: Approval of center I.D. monument sign and fountain. t **Mow N401001 MMAYIES O34IISSICN SMYrEMM 12, 1989 LOCATICN: Southeast corner of E1 Paseo and Highway 74 qM.- C-1 3. CASE NO: PP 89-15 APPLICANT (AND ADUFMS): HARVEY MILLER, 74-818 Joni Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLXW: Final approval of working drawings. LOCATION: Southeast of Cook Street and Sheryl Avenue. 7ANE: S.I. Continued this case to the next meeting. 4. CASE NO: Tr 23929 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): nMPLE CONSTRUC.TICN/RCN1 GRWORY, 747 Eugene Road, Palm Springs, CA 922620. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of landscape plans. I,OC MCN: Desert Falls 7.CNE: PR 3.5 Case was granted conceptual approval. Chairman Gregory abstained and Commissioner Drury opposed. 5. CASE NO: TT 226906 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MIPI E CCNSTR CrICN/RON GREOORY, 747 Eugene Road, Palm Springs, CA 92262. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of landscape plans. 2 w"r e MINUFTES ARCHITECTURAL 0.'FrIIS.SICN SEPTR43E t 12, 1989 I=TICN: Desert Falls ZONE: PR 3.5 Case was granted conceptual approval. Chairman Gregory abstained and Commissioner Drury opposed. 6. CASE NO: 348 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOSEPH BRAN T, 14 Mt. Holyoke, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270. NATURE OF PF0JEX,T/APPRC1TAL SOU(W: Preliminary and final approval for minor commercial remodel and painting. LOCATICN: 73-677 Highway 111 ZOM: C-1 Approved by minute motion subject to the window trim being dark red. III. ORAL CO MEdICATIC S: Commissioner Drury indicated that the Marriott's has put up a temporary sign for the employment center, which is located where the Sun Vision TV Station was previously located. She noted that a permanent sign approved by the city should be put up or there should be no sign at all. Mr. Bedrosian will go out and inspect this matter. IV. CASTS: A. Final Drawings: 1. C A= NO: 1611 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): HAMBURGER HAMLET/Lmperial Sign Co., 46-170 Calhoun St., Indio, CA 92201. PWURE OF P11X 1RC,T/APpg0yAL SOUGHT: Approving of sign program. LOCATION: Palm Desert Town Center 3 MMAYrES SSICN SMY1'EMM 12, 1989 ZCNE: PC (3), S.P. Mr. Smith advised came scion that the applicant was requesting a wall mounted, individual charnel letter sign with red neon tubing. The plex face to be red (#211). In addition, the applicant requested identification on the existing monument sign. Chairman Gregory suggested that this case be split into two parts for approval. Commissioner Holden felt that the red neon would be too bright. Commissioner Drury asked why neon was being proposed. Mr. Ross indicated that the neon cuts the plex better than other colors and that a dinner could be put on the neon. It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to approve the color red, number 207, for the signage on the building, the aeon to be placed cn a dimmer, the applicant is to work with the co mmissicn. on the intensity of the neon lighting and that the signage be reduced to 70 feet. Carried 4-1 (Commission Holden posed). Commissioner Sullivan felt that the monument sign is not in good condition at this time and that the proposed patch job should not be allowed. Mr. Ross indicated that the signage will only replace the existing signage. Mr. Paul Brockman, owner of Hamburger Hamlet, indicated that he would be willing to have the signage in white instead of red. It was mowed by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by CamLissioner Drury to approve the manment signage "Hamburger Hamlet Bar & (Fill" in red. Carried 3-2 (Commissioner's Sullivan and Holden opposed). 2. CASE NO: 1604 SA APPLIC NU (AND AMFWS): PANAC BE (Bobby C upples), 73-241 Highway ill, Suite 2-A NATURE OF p 7g,r/APPROVAL SOUGM: Approval of window mountain teal neon sign. ID ►TICK: 73-241 Highway 111 E 4 COMMISSION SEP rEMEM 12, 1989 7CNE: Cl-S.P. Mr. Smith outlined the proposal and indicated that the commission needs to determine whether or not the signage is one sign or two. If the signage is considered one sign, then it exceeds allowed signage area. Commissioner Drury asked the applicant if he could not delete "The Desert's Best". Applicant did not want to delete this because it is his logo. He noted that the signage could be moved up into the 2 large windows, but the signage would be 16' up from the ground. Commissioner Drury noted that they could not approve the neon tubing as proposed; the applicant carrot move it back because he will loose 2 work stations. Chairman Gregory asked if "Beauty Salon" was placed 3 feet back, how much signage would applicant have. Mr. Smith stated that if the signage was moved back 3 feet, it would not be considered signage. Commission noted that the neon sign is too large and too close to the window. It was stated that the applicant was sited by Code Enforcement and was informed to remove the sign, but Mr. Smith agreed to allow applicant to leave up sign until it could be reviewed by this Commission. Commission felt that signage was all one sign and that signage exceeded the allowed sign area. Moved by Commmissia'ner Drury, seccrmded by Commissioner Sullivan to deny request for window sign, and allow applicant to leave up signage until the September 28, 1989 City Council meeting; but neon must be unlit, at which time applicant may appeal to City Council. Carried 5-0. If applicant does not appeal to City Council, sign must be removed. 3. CASE NO: CLIP 89-4 APPLICANT (AND AM tESS): FRED FERN, 73-061 El Paseo, Suite 205, Palm Desert, CA 92260. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGRr: Approval of final working drawings and canter I.D. sign for commercial complex 5 yr.r Nftvloe MEA ES ARCHITECTURAL COMKESSIC N SEPTII43ER 12, 1989 LOCATICN: North side E1 Paseo, 200 feet east of Hwy 74. ZCNE: C-1 Moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Drury to approve final working drawings and continue center I.D. sign. Carried 5-0. B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE ND: CUP89-6 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): TLC, INC., 121 So. Palm Canyon Drive, Palm Springs, CA 92262. NATURE CIF PRDJECr/APPROVAL SOLXW: Preliminary approval for child care facility. IrOC7MCN: Southwest corner Portola and Santa Rosa Way. ZOM: R-2 S.O. Mr. Drell outlined the salient points of the project. After discussion it was moved by Drury, seconded by McCrea, to grant pare-approval with the notation that front elevation does not reflect the ridge line, but mom on hip lime. Also, clay roof top should be used. Carried 5-0. 2. CASE NO: SF 89-1 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): X\JGEL H. VIERA, 7348 Van Alden Ave., Reseda, CA 91335. NATURE OF PFG3BCr/APPROVAL SOLX i': Preliminary approval of a 23' high single family home. 6 b.. 1%09. MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL CXSSICN SM?TEM R 12, 1989 LOCATICN: 73-121 Santa Rosa Way Z,CNE• R-2 (7) Mr. Drell indicated that City Council referred this back to this Caumissicn for review, with the notation that they felt that two-story hones might be acceptable in a PR Zane, but not in an existing residential area. Commission discussed two-story hones over looking into neighboring residences, which is not acceptable. CmTnissicner Holden indicated that the two-story hone would be right on property line. This, put together with the view looking into neighbors yards, makes it unacceptable. Moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan, to direct applicant to restudy the height of hone to a single story height. This can be achieved by proposed one-story home, subter- anian style, or making home appear as a single story hone. Carried 5-0. V. . 1. C&SE NO: TT 23681 APPLIC NR (AND AMFESS): CHUM CCNISTRUCTIC N NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of a perimeter wall LOCATION: Homestead Drive east of Alamo ZAP• R-1 10,000 Mr. Drell indicated that an 11' block wall is being proposed. The proposed wall will vary fran 11' to 13' . The existing wall needs to be deleted because the footings would have been next to proposed wall. This results from construction of a lot that is substan- tially lower than the wall in grading. The new wall needs to be constxvcted and landscaping to be placed in front of the wall. Chairman Gregory will call Mr. Diaz regarding landscaping of the existing or proposed wall. 7 **Mo- . NBIV[fl�'S ARCHITECTURAL C OMMISSIC N SEPTE BER 12, 1989 2. APPLICANP (AMID AMRESS): BETTY'S SHOE BOUTIQUE, 72-785 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 Moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to place this item on the agenda for consideration. Carried 4-1 (Holden opposed). Chairman Gregory asked if the signage complied with the allowable signage area. Mr. Drell indicated that signage did meet allowed signage. C numssioner Drury indicated that the signage program for this complex was lost long before this sign was installed. Commissioner Holden felt that if a signage program was estab- lished, then it should be complied with. Moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Commissioner Drury to approve the sign. Carried 3-2 (Commissioners Sullivan and Holden opposed). VI. . The meeting adjourned at 2:30 p.m. Ste;Ve Smith, Assooi a Plariier /fr 8