HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-09-26 MINUTES
PALM DESERT OSTKIISSION
9UMM - SE'i'MM 26, 1989
12:00 P.M. ADMUNISTRATIVE SERVICES ROOM
73-510 FRED WARM DRIVE
I. The meeting was called to order at 12:20 p.m.
C.atmission Members Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ron Gregory, Chairman X 17 0
Mazy Drury % 16 1
Russell McCrea X 16 1
Rick Holden X 17 0
Steve Sullivan X 14 3
Others Present: Steve Smith
Catherine Sass
Phil Joy
Pat Bedrosian
Brent Conley
Donna Bitter
It was moved by C,omnissioner Dreary, seconded by Cantussioner Holden to approve
the minutes of September 12, 1989, as submitted. Carried 5-0.
II. Moved by Holden, seconded by Oomniss_icner McCrea to approve
the following cases by nnz rte motion. Carried 5-0.
1. CASE NO.; 1618 SA
APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): D'CRNRLES, 73-151 El Paseo, Palm Desert,
CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL Sp[X,M: Approval of awnings with signage
LOCATICNt: South side of E1 Paseo
ZCNE: Cl S.P.
2. CASE NO.: 881-SF
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MARY LOU GROUSE, 16 Leon Way, Rancho
Mirage, CA 92270
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of single family
home over 15' height w/landscaping
LOCATION: Edgehill Drive
ZONE: R-1
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3. CASE NO.; PP89-15
APPLICANT (AND ADDEM.S): HARVEY MILLER, 74-818 Joni Drive, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of working
drawings
UOXATIC N: Southeast of Crook Street and Sheryl Avenue
ZONE: S.I.
Approved with the conditions that the parapet be raised or the roof
system be lowered to conceal roof mounted equipment, and that the
landscape plans be adjusted as pallet contains plants that are not
desert oriented.
4. CASE No.; TT 24591
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SAM ALACANO, 2015 Terrace Circle, Elko, NV
89801
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of 16 single
family hones, architecture without landscaping.
LOCATION: Hovley Lane
ZONE: PR-5
5. CASE NO.; TT 23929
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): TEMPLE CONSTRUCTION, 747 Eugene Road, Palm
Springs, CA 92262
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of landscape
plans
LOCATICN: Desert Falls
ZONE: PR 3.5
6. CASE NO.; TT 22690
APPLICANT (AND A ECESS): TEMPLE CONSTRUCTION, 747 Eugene Road, Palm
Springs, CA 92262
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NATURE OF PRWECP/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of landscape
plans
LOCATION• Desert Falls
ZONE: PR 3.5
Chairman Gregory abstained on Items 5 and 6
III. CASES:
A. Final Drawings
1. CASE ND.;- 1623 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ELIZABETH PIERCE, 73-330 El Paseo, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
INURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SO[XW: Approval of awning with signs
LOCATION: 73-330 El Paseo
ZONE: C1 S.P.
Applicant was not present. Commission felt the awning was
unappropriate for the building. It was moved by Commissioner
Sullivan, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to deny the request.
Carried 5-0.
2. CASE NO.: PP88-10
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CHARLES MARTIN, 40-840 Thunderbird Rd.,
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of landscape plans
for a 19,000 sq. ft. office project
LOCATION: S/W of Fred Waring and San Luis Drive
ZC NE• O-P
Chairman Gregory felt the plans were magnificent. It was moved by
Commissioner Holden, seconded by Comnissioner Sullivan to approve the
landscape plans as submitted. Carried 5-0.
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3. CASE NO.; 1624 SA
APPLICANT (AM AMRESS): AMERICAN HAIRLINES, 73-640 E1 Paseo, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PRUJEC,T/APPFWAL SO[ W: Approval of awning and sign
LOCATION: Parking lot side of Grapevine
ZONE: Cl S.P.
Applicant was requesting permission to install a terracotta colored
awning with 8" white lettering which had been previously installed
at another location. Laura Landgrebe, owner of American Hairlines,
informed cannission that this awning is in excellent condition, being
stored at another location until approval is received.
Mr. Smith noted that the color of the building was a light beige.
Commissioner Drury felt that the awning would actually become a
flat sign, not an awning, and would not conform with the architecture
of current building.
Chairman Gregory asked applicant to present an accurate and current
drawing redesigning the awning to conform with the architecture of
building. He would like to see a return, or wings, on the new
proposed awning. Applicant noted there would be no place for the
returns, as the windows continue up the entire building. Chairman
Gregory also stated that if the awning was widened, it would fit in
more with the building.
Mr. Smith asked to continue the case to the next meeting, and asked
applicant to bring pictures of existing awnings on the building. It
was moved by Ccmnissioner Drury, seconded by Ctmuissioner McRea to
continue the case to the next meeting. Carried 5-0.
4. CASE NO.; 1212 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RENZO'S BISTRO, 73-725 E1 Paseo, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PFKXJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of additional signage on
existing awning
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I=TICN: 73-725 El Paseo
ZONE: Cl S.P.
Ms. Mi.ncn Sorrentino, owner of Renzo's Bistro, felt that the existing
sign on the awning is not visible enough, and would like it to stand
out more. Chairman Gregory felt the existing sign was very tasteful,
and explained to applicant haw the city is trying to avoid large
signs.
Ms. Sorrentino asked commission if she could have a sign inside the
window, as well as the existing awning. Ccmmission told her there
would be no problem with that, as long as it stayed in the perimeters
allowed, or is set back at least 3' from the window.
Commissioner Drury felt the sign was very visible, day or night.
Moved by Ccmmissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea to
direct applicant to review additional sign proposals with Mr. Smith.
Carried 5-0. Ms. Sorrentino withdrew her request for additional
signs on the awning.
5. CASE NO.: 1625 SA
APPLICAw (AMID ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS, Pinyon Pine, Box 69,
Mountain Center, CA 92301
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPFDVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage
LOCATION: 73-468 Highway 111
ZONE: Cl S.P.
Mr. Smith advised commission that the applicant, Ernie Brooks, was
requesting an 8' high awning in burgundy and ivory. Commissioner
Drury asked the applicant if the awning was to be lighted and if it
had a false bottom. Applicant advised that is was lighted and did
have a false bottom.
Chairman Gregory asked if the awning had to be the full 8 feet high.
The applicant replied that it could be reduced to a 6' awning by
leaving a 2' blank space at the bottom of the awning along the
fascia. He explained the 8' high awning would be necessary if they
wanted the awning to reach from the fascia extending up to cover the
roof mounted equipment.
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Chairman Gregory inquired .as to what will happen with the fabric
awning once it starts to deteriorate. Applicant stated that the
fabric was guaranteed by the manufacturer (DuPont) for five (5) years
against fading, rotting, etc. He also rooted that the fabric was very
easy to clean.
Commissioner Sullivan noted that as presented, the awning would
cross the west property line. The applicant noted that the current
owner owns the property adjacent to this location. Commissioner
Sullivan noted that the owner would have to go through the long,
involving process of removing the property line if this awning was
approved as proposed. Applicant indicated he could adjust the return
to stay inside the property line.
Commissioner Drury stated that she had a problem with this awning,
because it would be located on the lower side of Highway 111, and she
didn't really like the height and the actual look itself. She
recoamended that the applicant maybe speak to the council members
individually, but assured him that the council would be shocked if
this awning were presented to them as submitted.
Mr. Smith felt that if the commission was not comfortable with the
proposed awning, they should so state and deny the request. The
applicant could then appeal the denial and bring it before the
council.
It was moved by Chairman Gregory to approve the request as submitted.
Motion died for lack of second. It was moved by Commissioner McCrea,
seconded by Ccmmissioner Drury, to deny the proposal as presented
with the reasons being that the awning was too large and the fact
that it would be lit up too much from underneath. Conm_-ission felt
the proposed awning would be excessive and overpowering. In addi-
tion, they felt that a structure of this size was no longer an
awning, but rather a major architectural feature. Carried 4-1
(Chairman Gregory opposing).
6. CASE NO.; PP-89-5
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): NARENDRA PATEL for S.W. Plaza, 69-730
Highway 111, Suite 118, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
NATURE OF P1OJEX.r/APP1VVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary architectural and
landscape plan approval
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LOCATIGI: Southwest corner Highway 111 and Lupine Lane
ZONE: C1 S.P.
Mr. Smith briefly outlined the proposed office building proposal.
Connission expressed concern with the site plan as approved by
planning commission. Commissioner Holden noted that if the slip ramp
was closed, the only way people using E1 Doroado Bank and Baskin
Robins could exit would be out of the applicants parking lot.
Mr. Smith advised commission that the site plan represented a
compromise of the city's goal to implement the super block concept,
the business owner next door and the applicant.
Chairman Gregory thought the applicant should enlarge the trees in
front of the building.
Commissioner Drury was concerned about how the signage would be
handled as new tenants moved in. She felt this issue should be paid
close attention to before approving final plans. Mr. Patel felt
that since the entire bottom floor would be one medical office, the
only concern would be for the second floor.
Chairman Gregory felt that if the building was pulled back three feet
on the south and east side, access to the building would be more
feasible and landscaping could be added in that the present areas
are too small to allow the installation of the material shown.
It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan
to send the case back to the applicant to restudy it with attention
to the landscaping on the east side of the building, signage concerns
that the oc mission has, and pedestrian circulation. Carried 5-0.
7. CASE NO.; ADJ 89-5
APPLICANT (AND AMRESS): ROBERTA HALL, Post Office Box 4061. Palm
Desert, CA 92260
INURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGU: Variance to the front yard set
back of 6' to provide for carport/shade structure
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ARCHITECTURAL COMISSICN
SEP'I MER 26, 1989
LOCATION: 74-443 Driftwood Drive
ZCNE. R-3 (3)
Catherine Sass informed commission that Mr. Diaz had asked to bring
this case before the commission to receive its recommendation on
the carport structure.
Cammissioner Holden informed applicant that all carport cases brought
before the commission have been instructed to have some type of wood
border or beefing it up in some way. The applicant suggested that
she might install slunpstone around the columns to conform to the
building. Commissioner Sullivan noted that she would not have enough
roan in the car spaces to add slummpstone to the posts, and added that
she would have maintenance problems, as the cars would constantly be
hitting the poles.
Commissioner Drury stated that the city policy has always been that
these carports be treated with wood to make them more substantial.
It was moved by Commission Drury, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan,
to approve the request with the conditions that the applicant uses
a more finished material wrapped around the horizontal elements, and
the depth for the fascia would be a minimum of 8" and painted
compatible to the building. Carried 5-0.
IV. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 2:45 p.m.
Ste e Smith, Associate Planner
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