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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1990-08-14 PALM PARCHITECIURALcommimim TUESDAY, AUGUST 14, 1990 I. The meeting was called to order at 12:20 p.m. Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, Chairman X 13 2 Rick Holden X 15 0 Russell McCrea X 14 1 Mary Drury X 10 5 Frank Urrutia X 12 3 Wayne Connor X 13 2 Others Present: Steve Smith Pat Bedrosian Donna Bitter II. ORAL OCNM]NICATIONS None III. It was moved by Commissioner Dray, secaided by Camdssimer M Qcea, to approve the following cases by minute motion. A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO.: 1797 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SERGIO ALVEREZ, 27-555 Zachary Court, Palm Springs, CA 92262 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with sign LOCATION: 73-375 E1 Paseo, Unit J ZONE: Cl S.P. 2. CASE NO.: CUP 90-16 APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): TUITI GUSTI, c/o Joe Brandt, 14 Mt. Holyoke, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of building addition at restaurant LOCATION: Columbia Center Dula= ARCHITECTURAL OCrTIISSION AUGUST 14, 1990 ZONE: PC (3) S.P. Commission approved architectural design only for building addition by minute motion. 3. CASE NO.: _.�C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ROD MURPHY, G.J. MURPHY CONSTRUCTION, 72-764 Arboleda, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUCM: Archway addition to rear LOCATION: El Paseo/Jensen's Center ZONE: C-1 4. CASE NO.: 1801 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ULTRANEON SIGN CO. for H & H CRAFT AND FLORAL SUPPLY, 5474 Conplex Street, Suite 501, San Diego, CA 93123 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLKW: Business identification sign LOCATION: 72-885 Highway 111 Commission approved to continue the request, by minute motion, directing staff to inform applicant of recommendations listed on staff report. 5. CASE NO.: 1802 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): COAST SIGN DISPLAY, INC. for CARL'S, JR., 1345 South Allec Street, Anaheim, CA 92805 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: New signage LOCATICN: 73-125 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 6. CASE NO.: 1798 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MAPLE LEAF PLUMBING & AIR CONDITIONING, . INC. 74-160 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLXW: Identification sign 2 MINUTES ARCdIITECIURAL CLIMIIISSICN AUGUST 14, 1990 LOCATION: 74-160 Highway 111 ZCNE: C-1 Commission approved signage only by minute motion. 7. CASE NO.: 360 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOSEPH BRANDT, 14 Mt. Holyoke, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of roof equipment screen design for commercial building LOCATION: 73-705 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 8. CASE NO.: 1805 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): LORAN LORAN, 73-080 E1 Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGRT: Sign and entry design LOCATION: 73-080 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 B. Preliminary Cases: 1. CASE NO.: CUP 90-14 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS); LAKSHAM WIaKRE ESINGHE, 2792 Flyer Place, Los Angeles, CA 90065 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval for remodel/conversion of single family house into a preschool LCCATICN: 73-925 Fred Waring Drive ZONE: R-3 3 NIIlVUT�S ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION AUGUST 14, 1990 IV. CASES: A. Final Drawing's: 1. CASE NO.: 1792 SA APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): BILLY B'S, 73-403 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of new sign face in freestanding sign (formerly Swensen's) and wall sign LOCATION: Lucky Center at San Pablo and Highway 111 ZONE: Cl S.P. Commissioner Drury asked if the applicant would be willing to change the colors of the sign to ivory and brown instead of yellow and brown. The applicant indicated that he would prefer the yellow noting haw this color stands out along Highway 111. Commissioner Drury noted that ccm nission had a problem with the yellow color on the monument sign. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea, to approve the sign request with the condition that both the monument and the building signs be consistent using a brown background with ivory letters. Staff to review colors for final approval. Motion carried 4-0. 2. CASE NO.: 1800 SA APPLICANP (AND ADDS): IMPERIAL SIGN for STATE FARM INSURANCE, 46-120 Calhoun, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PFWBCr/APPROVAL SO[XW: Approval of monument sign and directional sign for State Farm Insurance LOCATION: Northwest corner Monterey and Arboleda ZONE: O.P. Steve Smith discussed the various signs presented by applicant showing their locations an the building noting that the client still had not received an occupancy permit for the location. Chairman Gregory instructed applicant to remove the directional sign on Arboleda Street and placing it (without the arrow) low on 4 err e ARCIIITECIURAL COMMISSION AUGUST 14, 1990 the back side of the building. Action: It was moved by Camnissia-ier Holden, seconded by Chairman Gregory, to approve signs subject to a 4" reveal at base of monument sign and deletion of the arrow. Applicant to confirm type style with staff for final approval. Notion carried 4-0. 3. CASE NO.: PP 88-2 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SC[ MITZ ENTERPRISES, P.O. Box 3992, Palm Desert, Ca 92261 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLXW: Preliminary and final approval of landscape plan for a 17 unit senior apartment project LOCATION: South side of Santa Rosa, 200 feet east of San Pascual ZCNE• R-2, S.O. Chairman Gregory discussed changes made on plans with the applicant, Harry Schmitz. Action: It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Camuissioner McCrea, to grant final approval of landscape subject to the following conditions: 1) Addition of two each 5-gallon vines to the north wall adjacent to the spa. 2) Fichus trees to be relocated, aligning with the stripes in parking area. Notion carried 4-0. 3. CASE NO.: 1804 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SIGNS By MEL for NRS OF PALM DESERT, 945 Boardwalk, Suite B, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGU: Business identification sign LOCATION: 44-250 Monterey Avenue 5 Nftmkol NOW, MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL 00MMISSION AUGUST 14, 1990 ZONE: O.P. Cammissioner Drury was concerned with the prominent blue color noting that with letters at 20" in height, this blue will really stand out. She added that there is nothing in the building that is conducive to that color. The applicant stated that when driving by this building, the blue letters don't have the force that the sample has. He added that the color was also the company trademark color. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea, to approve the business identification signage with the following conditions: 1) Monterey Avenue frontage signs be 20" high letters for "NRS" and "National Real Estate Service" being 8-1/2" high. 2) The parking lot sign would read "NRS" at 15" letters and "Of Palm Desert" being 8". 3) Parking lot sign to be moved dawn closer to the top of the inset above the door (1/3 of the way up from the fascia). 4) The blue color to be changed to a teal with staff reviewing the color prior to final approval. Motion carried 4-0. 4. CASE NO.: 882 SF APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOHN SIPOS, 73-237 Rod Laver Lane, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PRi0JWr/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final working drawings for 17 foot height on single family hone LOCATION: Lot 38, Blazing Star Lane ZONE: R-1 12,000 Steve Smith advised commission that this case was brought before them because the house, while it did not exceed the maximum height limit allowed, it was in excess of 15 feet. All homes between 15 to 18 feet must receive A.R.C. approval to assure neighborhood compatibility. 6 M 24UTES ARCHIITEU URAL OC44ISSION AUGUST 14, 1990 Commissioner Drury asked if the 25' front setback was the requirement for this lot. Mr. Smith noted that the minimum setback required was 201 . Commissioner Drury noted that the elevations now show 1614" for the height of the home. The applicant, John Sipos, informed canmission that the hones on this particular street are not much less than 18' in height and are all setback 201 . Cammissioner Holden informed Mr. Sipos that some of the things the commission will look at when reviewing height situations are the possibility of hipping the ends of the roof so that the highest point is not running at the closest point to the neighbors property, how far setbacks are, etc. Mr. Sipos noted that an adjacent neighbor, Bill and Anne Wallace, had asked that he set the house back 251 . Mr. Sipos noted that he has setback the front corner of the house that the Wallace's was concerned about to 22' from the property line. Mr. Sipos also agreed to dropping the height of the hone to 1614% Mrs. Wallace reported that she had looked at the plans originally submitted to the city showing a 25' setback and the applicant is now stating that the house will be setback 211 . Chairman Gregory asked staff if the sub mmitter was bound to what is submitted. Mr. Smith noted that these plans were for review only and that nothing has been given preliminary approval. Commissioner Holden asked if Mr. Sipos would be willing to setback his hone 251 . Mr. Sipos replied that he would not be willing to do this as he felt this would cause his view to be taken away by the garage on the left of his property. Mr. Smith noted that the commission is to try to establish neighborhood compatibility, not to determine views and/or setback variations. Chairman Gregory suggested that Mr. and Mrs. Wallace would have to find another forum to discuss the setbacks as this issue was something the architectural commission did not get involved with as long as the plans complied with the minimum 20' setback requirements. Commissioner Holden was concerned with approving the height of the house without a grading plan; however, assuming that the grading is where it is now, he had no problem approving it. Mr. Sipos guaranteed the commission that the grading will be the exact same as it is now. 7 NIIN(tt�S ARCFIITECIURAL OLM-IISSIC N AUGUST 14, 1990 Action: It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Commissioner Drury, to approve the submitted 16'4" height on the single family hone based on the existing grading. Motion carried 4-0. B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO.. PP 90-16 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): J & P DEVELOPMENT, 881 Dover #14, Newport Beach, CA 92263 NATURE OF PRUJEC.r/APPROML SQUGiP: Preliminary approval of mixed use commercial project LOCATION: 2.1 acres southeast of R.B. Furniture ZONE: C-1 Commissioner Holden informed applicants present, Bruce Jordon and John Pettichini, that the major concerns with the proposed project was the overall lack of landscaping. He added that another concern was how the buildings backed up against the wash noting that as you drive up Highway 111, you will look at the back of the buildings along the wash. In the past the commission approved zero setbacks if the applicant received an agreement with the C.V. Water District to landscape on the water district property to help screen the back of the buildings, however Mr. Smith noted that this has been quite difficult to acquire in the past. Mr. Jordon indicated that 16% of. the parking lot area was designated for landscaping. Mr. Pettichini felt that once the alley way is placed and with the curvature of the buildings and the mountain, you will not be able to see the area where commission was requesting additional landscaping. Mr. Pettichini asked if the placement of vines on the back side of the buildings would be sufficient. Chairman Gregory did not feel this would solve the problem. Chairman Gregory suggested that the applicant review projects such as the 111 Town Center Way showing the placement of landscaping and additional fascia elements to the back of the buildings. Mr. Gregory saw the need for softening noting that the trellis work would not be sufficient. Commission noted that Building A was located too close to Highway 111. It would have to be moved back allowing for additional landscaping. 8 MINUTES ARC HITECIURAL CJCMMIISSIC N AUGUST 14, 1990 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Ctnudssioner McCrea, to continue the request for preliminary approval directing the applicant to address the following: 1) Restudy the landscaping area along the Magnesia Falls wash and in front of Buildings A, B and C. 2) Meet all city standards in the Master Parking Lot Tree Plan. 3) Pay close attention to the screening of any roof mounted equipment. 4) Continuation of architecture along the channel either through landscaping or making the back of the building look like the front. 5) Preparation of a line of site to present to council. Motion carried 4-0. 2. CASE NO.: PP 90-13 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS); DSL SERVICE CO. , 3501 Jamboree Road,Suite 500, North Tower, Newport Beach, CA 92658-6030 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans for a retail shopping center LOMTICN: East side Highway 111 between Fred Waring and Parkview Drive 7.CNE: P.C. (4) to be changed to P.C. (3) (regional rcial) Applicant, Jeff Simons, was present. Steve Smith reported that the landscaping plans were conceptual. Mr. Smith noted that staff was concerned with two of the pads being proposed at 2-story developments, adding that the only 2-story developments in the P.C. zone was the hotel which is setback considerably more. Mr. Smith reported that at this point the major building in the project is a supermarket with the loading dock at rear. Staff was not sure how this can work with the adjacent residential properties. Commissioner Drury asked what the maximum height would be for this zone. Mr. Smith replied that the maximum height would be 35' , which is what the applicant was asking for. 9 ARCHITECTURAL COMTISSION AUGUST 14, 1990 Commissioner Holden was concerned with the plans showing nice overhangs and columns noting that commission has no guarantee that buildings will be placed on the pads exactly as the plans show which could eliminate the column work shoran. Commissioner Drury asked about the placement of the median along Fred Waring. Mr. Simon replied that he had been instructed by city staff to line up the entrance with the Toys R Us entry stating that there would possibly be a traffic signal at this point. Mr. Smith indicated to commission the staffs concern with the landscaped area along the residential area adjacent to the project. It is essentially an 8' planter bordered by a 6' wall. His other concern was with the transition around the end satellite building at Joshua Road. Commissioner Holden felt the buffer along the residential area should be as broad as possible. Commissioner Drury felt the residents will have a problem with the lighting and trash areas along the side of the project. Mr. Smith noted the amount of complaints received on the diesel trucks constantly running along loading docks. Cc m issioner McCrea felt that conceptual approval would be more appropriate than preliminary approval at this point. Mr. Smith asked commission for their input on the 2-story buildings. Ccmmissioner Drury did not have any problem with a 2-story building on Highway 111, however Commissioner Holden felt the 2- story buildings should be shifted to be consolidated. Commissioner Drury felt that some berming could be done along Highway 111 to offset the height of the 2-story building. Mr. Smith also pointed out that the applicant was seeking a 10% parking reduction. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea, to grant conceptual approval of the preliminary plans directing the applicant to address the following conditions: 1) Freeing up the corner of Fred Waring and Highway 111 and adding some studying the buffer on the area behind the market, adjacent to the residential area. 2) The 24' high satellite building at the corner of Joshua Road, as the adjacent residential homes are limited to a height of 18' . 10 %ftno+ MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION AUGUST 14, 1990 Motion carried 3-0-1, with Chairman Gregory abstaining. Commissioner Drury directed applic ant to meet with staff to understand what concerns have been raised in the transition between commercial to residential and make an effort to mitigate these issues. 3. CASE NO.: TT 25711 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BIRTCHER DUNHAM, 72-010 Varner Road, Thousand Palms, CA 92276 NATURE OF PROJBCr/APPfffVAL SOUGHT: Resub ittal of preliminary house plans LOCATION: West of Eldorado - 1/2 mile south of Country Club ZONE: PR-5 Applicants, Curt Dunham, Sr., Carey Norwalk, Clark Wardle and Dick Palmer were present. Mr. Norwalk addressed the commission's concerns regarding the lack of window treatments on the project. Commissioner Holden noted that the major concerns were with the large sliding glass doors. Mr. Norwalk noted that they have done a lot of work under Title 24. Commission indicated that compliance of Title 24 was not an appropriate minimum for the desert area. Mr. Norwalk discussed the combination of overhangs and trellis works done throughout the plans. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Drury, seconded by Commissioner McCrea, to grant preliminary mi nary approval of the working drawings noting their concern with each elevation showing the same trellis regardless of the style or architecture of the actual home. Applicant will need to show the three various rear elevations on final detailed plans. Notion carried 3-1, Commissioner Holden opposing. 4. CASE NO.. PP 89-12 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): GEORGE METSOVAS, Post Office Box 5132, Orange, CA 92667 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLKW: Revised landscaping plans LOCATION: 72-918 Highway 111 11 MAN1JTES ARCHITECTURAL CESSION AUGUST 14, 1990 ZONE: C-1 Mr. Metsovas discussed with co -mission the problems he was having in locating some of the items indicated on his approved landscaping plans. Chairman Gregory agreed to try to locate the eight 10' and five 12' Washington Filafers and six 36" African Sumac for the applicant. If Chairman Gregory cannot locate the Washington Filafers, commission will allow them to be replaced by hybrids. V. It was passed by a unanimous vote to add the following item to the CASE NO.: 1799 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS: LOCAL NEON for 3 DAY BLINDS, 1660 Stanford Street, Santa Monica, CA 90404 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Business identification sign LOCATION: 44-489 Town Center Way, Suite B Steve Smith reported that the building is located in the 111 Town Center Way plaza where there is an approved sign program for non- illuminated letters. The applicant in this case is requesting approval of an illuminated sign. Connissioner Holden noted the concerns council had with the glare of the signage at night. He would have not problem approving the sign if ccamission was assured the sign would not produce glare. Action: It was passed by a unanimous vote to approve the signage as submitted with the condition that the illuminated letters not produce glare. Motion carried 4-0. VI. The meeting adjourned at 3:40 p.m. `-9TEVESMITH ASSOCIATE PLANNER SS/db 12