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Home My WebLink About1990-12-11 4 rrrr' MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION TUESDAY, DEC943ER 11, 1990 I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12:20 p.m. Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, Chairman X 20 2 Rick Holden X 22 0 Frank Urrutia X 19 3 Russell McCrea X 20 2 Christopher VanVliet X 4 0 Wayne Connor, Alternate X 15 7 Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith Jeff Winklepleck Pat Bedrosian Donna Bitter II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner VanVliet, to approve the minutes of the November 27, 1990 meeting as amended. Motion carried 5-0. III. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner McCrea, to approve the following cases by minute motion: 1. CASE NO. : 1878 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CAROLINE GARCIA for CAROLINE FOR NAILS AND HAIR, 73-981 1/2 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PFQIF7Cr/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of valance with signage LOCATION: 73-981 1/2 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 The commission approved the valance as submitted with 10" caps and 6" letters. 2. CASE NO. : 1880 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AMERICAN AWNING for SUNSHINE TRAVEL, 44-489 Town Center Way, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NRNtTPEs ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW C 144ISSION DECEMBER 11, 1990 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPRWAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage LOCATION: 73-660 E1 Paseo, Suite 4 ZONE: C-1 S.P. The commission approved the awning with the following conditions: 1) The awning meet building code requirements on clearance 2) Deletion of existing signage 3) Retention of palm trees 3. CASE NO. . 1814 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AD/ART for AMERICAN SAVINGS BANK, 5107 E. Telegraph Road, Los Angeles, CA 90022 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLXW: Approval of revisions to new sign program LOCATION: 72-625 Highway 111 ZONE: PC (3) S.P. The commission approved the sign program contingent on the west facing sign not showing on a raceway if at all possible. 4. CASE NO. : 1886 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): OASIS CRUISE AND TRAVEL, 71-854 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 73-660 Highway 111 #2, Palm Desert, CA 92260 ZONE: C-1 S.P. The commission approved the signage with the following conditions: 1) The sign be pulled in 24" from the face of the overhang 2) Relocate the sign to the second bay 2 a■.r MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW 0CN1MISSION DECEMBER 11, 1990 5. CASE NO. : 1673 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): IMPERIAL SIGN for MAURIE SYMONDS, 46- 120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised business identification signage LOCATION: 73-640 E1 Paseo ZONE: C1 6. CASE NO.: PP 90-25 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SMITH PARTNERS, 28924 Front Street #103, Temecula, CA 92390 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUCW: Preliminary approval of landscape plans for industrial building LOCATION: East side of Beacon Hill at Mayfair Drive ZONE: S.I. The commission granted preliminary approval of landscape plans. IV. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO. . 1884 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AMERICAN AWNING COMPANY for GRETA, 44- 489 Town Center Way #194, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signs LOCATION: 73-130 El Paseo ZONE: Cl S.P. Conn-tissioner Urrutia felt the awning was not much different than what was proposed initially and did not look like it would work. Chairman Gregory suggested that the awning be approved if it were pulled back 15" and the posts be placed in a landscaped planters. Conmiissioner Urrutia noted the liability factor involved. 3 "Wo °Yn►01 i 1'J.LN( 1 s ARCHLITECIURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DBC943M 11, 1990 Steve Smith discussed the use of brass chains on top of the awning attaching it to the top of the building. Chairman Gregory again stated that a solution could be to push the awning back 15" and pull the brass posts toward the curb for more separation between the buildings with the addition of planters to support the posts. Commissioner VanVliet asked if the awning could be supported on the wall without the posts as he did not know if the planters would be a solution. Action: It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Ccnvdssioner Urrutia to continue the request providing the applicant time to comply with the commissions suggestions. Notion carried 5-0. 2. CASE NO.: PP 90-27 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PORTOLA DEVELOPMENT, Maurice Johns, 41- 865 Boardwalk, Suite 12, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGH: Preliminary approval of residential golf country club/hotel LOCATION: Northeast corner of Frank Sinatra and Portola ZONE: PR-5, RIM Phil Drell presented the elevations and floor plans for the attached units in the project noting that the development would be going to public hearing in March. The applicant discussed the preliminary landscape plans for the 420 acre project. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Cmmissioner McCrea, to grant conceptual approval of the villas. Notion died. Chairman Gregory indicated that a landscape plan for the villas was not available and directed applicant to pay close attention to the city's water efficient planting. He added that more detail was needed on the shrub palette. Commissioner Holden was concerned with the parking for the landscape and maintenance personnel. He informed the applicant that he will have to insure that these employees will not be parking on the streets outside the project. Chairman Gregory asked about the one (1) maintenance facility. The applicant replied that this was correct. Chairman Gregory suggested that the applicant discuss the different maintenance operations, as it 4 MINL)TES ARCRITECIURAL REVIEW 0CMMIISSION DEM4BER 11, 1990 could cause a conflict with the use of one facility. Chairman Gregory felt the entry design was very nice. Commissioner Holden noted that his concerns with solar protection. Action: It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Commissioner VanVliet, to grant conceptual approval of the overall project excluding the detached housing. Commission directed applicant to provide detailed landscaping plans showing shrub palette, working towards the city's water efficient planting. Motion carried 4-0- 1, Commissioner Urrutia abstaining. B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO.: PP 90-26 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RAYMOND PATSCHECK c/o ACACIA PARTNERS, 640 North Tustin Avenue #103, Santa Ana, CA 92705 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of revised elevations and landscaping for office project LOCATION: Southwest corner of Fred Waring Drive and Acacia ZONE: P-1 (Proposed O.P. ) Case was continued at applicant's request. 2. CASE NO.: PP 90-23 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ENJOY DEVELOPMENT, 22750 Hawthorne Blvd. , Torrance, CA 90505 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of revised landscape plans LOCATION: Southeast corner of Fred Waring Drive and Town Center Way ZONE: PC (3) S.P. Commissioner Holden questioned the drive into the project leading to a block wall. The applicant noted that the landscaping that would screen the trash enclosure and adjoining wall to the fire station was omitted on the plans in error. 5 8 V*AW �r 3 ]MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECIIMBER 11, 1990 Phil Drell noted that the planning corimission stated that the landscaping on the Fairway Drive side of the project was not to impact on the resident's view. Commissioner Urrutia felt that palms could be placed at this location, but did not have a problem with the trees the way they were shown. The applicant discussed his landscaping requirements with the meandering sidewalk along Fred Waring Drive. Mr. Drell noted that existing sidewalk and suggested that commission give him credit for landscaped area if he put in a meandering sidewalk. Commissioner Holden asked about the meandering sidewalk on Town Center Way. Mr. Drell noted that the buildings along Town Center Way are fronting the street and therefore the sidewalk would be more like a commercial frontage. Action: It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to grant conceptual approval of the plans directing applicant to address the following: 1) Provide landscaped area at south property line and along trash enclosure wall. 2) Sidewalks along driveways changed to planters 3) Additional landscaping around buildings with something other than just palm trees. Canopy trees needed. 4) Meet city shade tree requirements in the parking lot area. 5) Addition of finger landscape bay for every 10 spaces where not shown. 6) Plans to show all sizes of plant material for resubmittal. Notion carried 5-0. 3. CASE NO.: PP 90-28 • APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PEGGY ANES, 82-500 Highway 111 #3, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGM: Preliminary approval of building elevations for 6,450 square foot office building LOCATION: Southeast corner of Acacia and Fred Waring 6 .... ' MINVIES ARC HITECIURAL REVIEW C(INMISSION DECKER 11, 1990 ZONE: R-1 (Proposed O.P. ) Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner McCrea, to grant conceptual approval of the building elevations only. Motion carried 5-0. V. MISCELLANEOUS CASES: 1. CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THOMAS WEEMS, 73-880 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of a 5 foot high redwood fence in front yard with 8' setback from curb LOCATION: 73-880 Fred Waring Drive ZONE: R-1 Steve Smith reported that code requires fences 48" or higher to be a minimum of 15 feet from curb unless approved by Architectural Review Commission. He noted that Fred Waring Drive is a high volume street and recommended approval of fence with appropriate landscaping. Mr. Smith added that the property line is 9 feet in back of the curb and so the applicant is one foot onto city property. Commissioner Holden did not feel the commission could approve something that is on the city's property and felt the line of site from the driveway was a problem. Mr. Bedrosian discussed the safety issues in the ordinance which require the fence to be back 15' . Commission found that because of the heavy traffic on Fred Waring Drive and that the adjacent neighbors with existing 5 foot fences, they could approve the fence with certain conditions. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner McCrea, to approve the fence contingent on the applicant receiving encroachment permit from public works department and the following condition: Truncate two ends of main fence (5' ) and move the easterly fence section back to minimum 12' setback. Notion carried 5-0. 7 1400001, MINUTES ARa-aTECrURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DBCE BER 11, 1990 2. APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): DENNIS KLEINMAN for DESIGNER CONCRETE PRODUCTS, INC. , Post Office Box 3973, Gardena, CA 90247 NATURE OF REQUEST: Presentation for approval of woodcrete and brickcrete for future fence material Mr. Kleinman presented the fence material alternative to block wall and wood fences made out of concrete. Coinnissioner Urrutia's concern was with the application. Catmission stated that the fencing qualifies as a decorative material under the city's ordinance. VI. ADDED ITEMS: 1. CASE NO. : 1894 SA APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): THE EDGE, 73-735 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of neon blue sign with neon pink underline reading "Computers, Etc." LOCATION: 73-735 Highway 111 Applicant was not present. Chairman Gregory asked the name of the business. Mr. Winklepleck replied that the business name was "The Edge". Action: It was moved by Cc mLissioner VanVliet, seconded by Catmissioner McCrea, to deny the request of the non-conforming sign. Motion carried 5-0. 2. CASE NO.: 1836-1 SA APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): EL PASEO COLLECTION NORTH, 73-061 El Paseo #205, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGH: Awning design for offices behind El Paseo Collection North LOCATION: 73-100 El Paseo, Suites 7, 8, 9 and 10 Applicant, David Fletcher, requested approval of an awning program on the back, east side of building using 8" letters. 8 MINVPES ARC HITECIURAL REVIEW (UMISSION DECE BER 11, 1990 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet to approve the awning program with the condition that the exposed end of the awning be enclosed. Notion carried 5-0. Commission disc use the procedures on submittal of landscaping plans with staff. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Chairman Gregory, to approve the following procedure: 1) Eric Johnson and Frank Gonzalez to review all future landscaping/irrigation plans prior to the project going to the Architectural Review Commission. Their comments and recommendations are to be included in the staff reports. 2) Either Eric or Frank attend all future A.R.C. meetings for their input on landscaping/irrigation plans. 3) All future working drawing to include irrigation plans. Notion carried 5-0. VII. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting adjourned at 3:25 p.m. S SMITH ASSOCIATE PLANNER /db 9