HomeMy WebLinkAbout1990-06-26 MINUTES
PRIM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
ZUESDAY, JUKE 26, 1990
I. The meeting was called to order at 12:10 p.m.
Cornnission Members Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ron Gregory, Chairman X 10 2
Rick Holden X 12 0
Russell McCrea X 11 1
Mary Drury X 7 5
Frank Urrutia X 10 2
Wayne Connor X 11 1
Others Present: Phil Drell
Pat Bedrosian
Donna Bitter
It was moved by Conanissioner Holden, seconded by CCmmissioner McCrea,
to approve the minutes of the June 12, 1990 meeting as submitted.
Carried 3-1, Commissioner Urrutia abstaining.
II. Moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner McCrea, to
approve the following cases by minute motion. Carried 4-0.
1. CASE NO.: 1773 SA
APPLICANT (APED ADDRESS): TRIPLE A. NEON CO. for COAST FEDERAL
BANK, 11015 Cumpston Street, No. Hollywood, CA 91601
NATURE OF PlUXICT/APPRUVAL Ste: Change existing signs to
Coast Federal Bank
LOCATION: Palms to Pines West, Phase II
ZONE: PC 3 S.P.
Commission approved, by minute motion, one (1) individual channel
letter sign (maximum 15" in height) to read "Coast Federal Bank"
on each of the north, south and west wood fascias in white. Logos
were approved as requested.
2. CASE NO. : CUP 84-10
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MAMA GINAS, 73-705 El Paseo, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOLKW: Approval of removable glass
patio enclosure
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LOCATION: 73-705 E1 Paseo
ZONE: Cl S.P.
0cmmission approved the removable glass patio enclosure, by minute
motion, subject to the glass being tinted and the applicant
receiving all other necessary agency approvals.
3. CASE NO.: 1776 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): TENNYSON'S COLLECTION, 73-655 G E1
Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Business identification
signage
LOCATION: 73-655 G El Paseo
ZONE: C-1
4. CASE NO.: 1774 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): NANCY BLUE DESIGN, 73-290 El Paseo,
Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGE: Wall and awning signage
LOCATION: 73-290 El Paseo
ZONE: Cl
5. CASE NO.: PP 90-14
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MICHAEL HOMME, Post Office Box 258, Palm
Desert, CA 92261
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGF]T: Preliminary approval for
8,600 square foot office building
LOCATION: Westside of Monterey Avenue, south of Parkview
ZONE: O.P.
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Cammission granted preliminary approval of architectural plans, by
minute motion, with the following conditions:
1) Move trash enclosure across to the north side of parking lot
2) Restudy location of scuppers
3) Air conditioning equipment to be screened
4) Landscaping plans to be submitted for approval
6. CASE NO.: 882 SF
APPLICANT (AND AMFESS): TRUDI L. AGUILAR, 73-081 San Gorgonio,
Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PFO=/APPRWAL SOUGHT: Fence ordinance exception
allowing cedar fence on street side of yard
LOCATICN: 73-081 San Gorgonio
ZONE: R-1
Commission approved, by minute motion, installation of new
vertical cedar fence.
III. CASES:
1. CASE NO.: PP 89-22
APPLICANT (AND AMFMS): MELANIE PLACE PARTNERS, 73-441 Mariposa
Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PFOJEC,'T/APPROVAL, SOUGHT: Final approval of building and
landscape plans for 16,688 square foot industrial building
LOCATICN: East side Melanie Place, north of Sheryl Avenue
ZGNE: S.I.
Catmisqjoner Holden noted that the parapets are not high enough to
screen the air oondi.tioning equipment and would need to be raised.
Mr. Drell noted that the parking lot landscaping plan does not
ocnform to the city's standards.
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It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner
Connor, to grant final approval of building and landscaping plans
with the following conditions to be reviewed by staff for final
approval:
1) Parapets to be raised to screen air conditioning
equipment
2) Parking lot landscaping plan to conform to city's
ordinance
Notion carried 4-0.
2. CASE NO.: 356 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RON ODEKIRK c/o V & V ARCHITECTURE,
3814 Crocus Lane, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Facade remodel and new
sidewalk
LOCATION: 73-956 El Paseo
ZONE: Cl S.P.
Applicant requested approval of two (2) different types of
awnings. One being a canvas awning with brass trim and the other
a glass and brass canopy. Glass would be tinted with the sides
open for a natural ventilation system. Mr. Odekirk felt the glass
awning would be more appropriate being next to the Troy building.
He indicated that the reason for requesting approval for both
awnings was that he was not sure the glass panels would be
available in time for his opening, and therefore would want to
install the canvas awning in its place.
Commissioner Holden reminded applicant that with the wind storms
here in the desert it is a lot of upkeep trying to keep the tinted
glass windows clean, and if any moisture gets under the brass, it
will deteriorate it. Commissioner Urrutia suggested that the
applicant look into a clear lacquer finish for the brass.
It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Commissioner
Urrutia, to approve the tinted glass awning stating that if the
applicant cannot receive the specially made glass panels in time
for his opening, the commission will allow the canvas awning in
place of the glass. Motion carried 4-0.
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3. CASE NO.: TT 25711
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BIRTCHER DUNHAM, 72-010 Varner Road,
Thousand Palms, CA 92276
NATURE OF PIDJh1WAPPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary architectural
elevations for a 108 unit single family subdivision
LOCATION: West of El Dorado Drive, 1/2 mile south of Country
Club
ZONE: PR-5
Commissioner McCrea asked the size of the lots. Applicant, Curt
Dunham, Sr., noted that the average size was 14,400 square feet.
Commissioner Urrutia asked if there were any intentions to use
different materials for the roofing. Mr. Dunham noted that all
roofs would be barrel tiles in various colors. He added that
there would be a total of nine (9) elevations. These first three
elevations were brought for preliminary approval so that they may
begin on the working drawings.
Commissioner Holden felt a study should be done on the solar
protection, especially the larger glass areas as there were no
overhangs. Commissioner Urrutia also wanted to see some study
given to solar protection as there are not enough overhangs on the
east and west exposures. Mr. Drell noted that the floor plan did
show covered patios on each. Commissioner Urrutia noted that
Phase 1 did not indicate any overhangs except on the back. He
would like to see the architectural treatment here.
Commissioner Urrutia asked that when the remainder of the
elevations are presented, the applicant show the different colors
on the tile roofs along with color samples for both the roof tiles
and the buildings. Mr. Dunham noted that there would be 8 or 10
different colors.
Commissioner Urrutia requested to see site plans with the typical
landscaping. It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by
Commissioner Holden, to grant conceptual approval with a study
being placed on the solar protection as noted to applicant by
commission. Motion carried 4-0.
4. CASE NO.: PP 90-12
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BILL WILSON, 70-500 Thunderbird Road,
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
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NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SO[JGRr: Preliminary approval for
9,026 square foot design showroom building
LOCATICN: Northeast corner of Boardwalk and Mediterranean
ZONE: S.I.
Mr. Drell reported that the building had been shortened and the
parking lot was redesigned. He noted that curb stops were needed
and the trash enclosure area be redesigned.
Commissioner Urrutia noted that the east elevations still showed
large blank walls. Mr. Drell noted that the applicant would have
to relocate the columns in the parking spaces. The spaces would
have to be 20' in length or 18' with a 2' overhang of hardscape or
landscaping.
After further discussion with applicant, it was moved by
Commissioner Holden, seconded by Cmmissioner McCrea, to grant
preliminary approval. Motion died on a 2-2 vote. Commissioner
Connor felt that the site plans needed work before granting
preliminary approval. Commissioner Urrutia was concerned with
approving the project as applicant seems to be trying to place too
much on the site and the parking lot was very tight. Mr. Drell
noted that the applicant had discussed the idea of installing a
trellis over the parking spaces on the north side of the parking
lot.
It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner
Urrutia, to continue the request directing applicant to address
the following:
1) Trash area to be redesigned
2) Relocate columns in the parking spaces. The spaces are
to be 20' in length or 18' with a minimum 2' overhang of
hardscape or landscaping in front of each
3) Installation of trellis over parking spaces on north
side of parking lot
4) Additional landscaping needed in parking lot
Motion carried 4-0.
5. CASE NO.: 1751 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): TILDIE ANN FERGUSON for KWIK KOPY
PRINTING, 74-304 Highway ill, Palm Desert, CA 92260
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NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Referred back to A.R.C. from
City Council to review applicant's suggestions for color
substitutions for business identification sign
LOCATION: 74-304 Highway 111
ZONE: Cl S.P.
Applicant, Tildie Ferguson, was instructed by City Council to give
her color suggestions to commission for reconsideration. She
proposed a deeper red, deeper blue and an ivory. After further
discussion, it was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by
Commissioner Holden, to approve the proposed sign using Color No.
PMS 280C for blue, No. PMS 200C for red, and an ivory. Sign is to
be in proportion to existing signs on building. The sign on the
parking lot side of building to be ivory with the blue lettering.
Notion carried 4-0.
6. CASE NO.: 1745 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): HARV'S c/o Rick Durham, 83-480 Avenue
45, No. 15, Indio, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised
landscaping plans and wall and monument sign
LOCATION: Southeast corner of Cook and Sheryl
ZONE: S.I.
Applicant was requesting monument sign to read "Haze's Car Wash
and Detail Center" without the fountain. Commissioner Urrutia was
still concerned that traffic coming from the south would not be
able to see the sign. Applicant noted that the sign is proposed
at 27' back from the curb line. Commissioner Urrutia rued that
if the applicant was elevating this monument sign so that all
traffic could see it, this is a problem.
Commissioner Urrutia asked about the height of the sign. The
applicant noted that it would be 6' to the top of the sign.
Commissioner Connor felt the applicant should try for something
dynamic taking advantage of the slope instead of trying to fight
it. He added that if the monument sign could be integrated into
the slope, this could act as a retaining wall. He felt this would
be much more eye catching.
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Commissioner Urrutia noted that as submitted, you will be able to
look through the letters seeing the back of the lettering on the
other side. After further discussions with the applicants, it was
moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to
approve the signage and landscaping plan with the following
conditions:
1) Monument sign be integrated with the slope and the
maximum point be no higher than 6' above the slope on
the west side.
2) The grade be elevated at the center portion of the sign
(the "V" section) to 2' at top of sign and landscaping
be placed in the "V" section.
3) The name on the monument sign be limited to "Auto Care
Center" or "Car Care Center".
Motion carried 3-1, Commissioner McCrea opposing. Staff noted
that applicant is allowed 3 sq. ft. of directional signs on
building identifying what that particular building is.
IV. .
It moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor,
tc adjo the meeting at 2:25 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
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