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Home My WebLink About1990-03-13 ' � � � � NII.N[�I.'ES PAIM D�Q2T �NMISSICN �OAY, NF�RQi 13, 1990 �t�t***�r I. The meeting was called to order at 12:15 p.m. Comnission Members Gtiarrent Nleeting Year to Date Present Absent Fresent 1�bsent Ron Gregory, Chaizman X 5 0 Rick Holden X 5 0 Russell McCxea X 4 1 Mazy Drury X 3 2 FY�ank Urrutia X 3 2 Wayne Coru�or X 5 0 Others Present: Steve Smith Phil Drell Catherine Sass Pat Bedrosian Brent Conley Donna Bitter It was maved by CaYmissioner Holden, seconded by Camlissioner Conr�or, to apprave the minutes of March 13, 1990, as submitted. Carried 3-0-2, Conmissioners Urrutia and Druxy abstaining. II. Moved by Conenissioner Holden, seocr�c3ed by (X�r�, to appmove the follawiryg ca.9es by misurt-,e motiori, Carried 5-0. 1. C.I�,SE NU.• 1713 SA APPLIC�INP (AI�D ADDRF�S): PHANrASIE LIFESTYLE, 73-655 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260 1�ZURE OF PRQ.7�7C,T/APPROVAL SQ�iT: Appraval of nan-illwninated flat cote silver ai�od.ized alwninLun letters I�OCATI�i: 73-655 El Paseo ZO[�: Cl 2. C�SE NO.: APPLICANP (AI�ID ADDRFSS): ORR 00[�ANY (for Image Ccamunications), 41-905 Boardwalk, Suite X, Palm Desert, CA 92260 I�ZURE OF PRQ7F]GT/APP�CX�L S(7(]C�1T: Approval for sign program w�rr,�' ±�rr� N�tI�S ARCFIITflC,7.URAL �T�SSI�i N�It�I 13, 1990 IACZ�ITIO[�i: 41-865 Boardwalk 7,�1E• SI Appraved by minute motion with the conditian that signage rwt be placed abave 20 feet. 3. CASE NO.: 1714 SA APPLIC;�INP (AI�ID A�S): DR. NORMAN F2EEVE.S, 44-740 Nbnterey Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260 I�ZURE OF PRUJ�GT/APPI�C7VAL SO�P: Approval of m�nument sign I�OC.�TIOI�T: 44-740 Mazterey Avenue 7.a1�• OP Approved by minute moti� with the condition that the existing signs be re�noved. 4. CASE NO.• 1717 SA APPLICANP (ArID A�RESS): SICNS BY BULL (for Master Pools and Spas), 83-480 Avenue 45, Unit 15, Indio, California 92201 NATURF OF PROJECr/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identificatian sign 7�: Cl 5. CASE IVC).• C�JP 90-4 p,ppLlCAI� (At�D ADDRFSS): WEBC�O PACIFIC (The Puebl�), 73-020 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJEGT/APPRaVAL ��: Approval of preliminazy architecture and landscape plans for a fifteen unit senior project I,OCATIo[�i: 73-695 Santa Rosa Way 2 . , «� � NII1V[T1�S ARCfIITE�CAlR11L C�T�SSI�i �R�i 13, 1990 7.0[�: R2 S.O. Approved the prel�mir�ary architecture and landscape plans with the following conditions: 1) Plantirig be provided in side patio area on the west property line to pravide sane typ� of screeriing between this and adjacent property. This plantirig should also provide shading for this area. 2) Replace gamolepis with euryops viridis 3) Some type of architectural approach mitigating solar protection probl�n on west side facing the sliding glass c3r�ors III. C�15FS: 1. (�SE NO.: 1712 SA APPLICANP (ArD ADDRESS): DAD'S DOG HOLJSE, 72-695 Highway 111, Suite A-7, Palm Desert, CA 92260 I�IZURE OF P1�DJF�C.T/APPRWAL SO[]Q�P: Approval of existing business identification sign I�0C�1TIo[�i: 72-695 Highway 111, Suite A-7 Z�lE- C2 Applicant was riot present. It was m�ved by C.amiissioner Urrutia, seconded by Ca�missianer Coru�or, to deny the request for appraval of existirig sign. Carried 3-0 2. CASE ND.: 1711 SA p�ppLICANP (Ai�D A�RF�S): PAL�MS TO PINES CANVAS (for Sunrise ��;lding), Pinyari Pines, Box 69, Nbuntain Center, CA 92301 1�7.URE OF P1�Ck7�C,'T/APPR�WAL SO[X�i'P: Approval of awning I�OG'ATION' 42-600 Cook Street ZC�VE: SI Commissioner Urrutia's concern was that the awn.ing was not in keeping with the building. The bui.lding is a very contemporary building and he does not feel the awning c3oes it any justice. 3 � � NII1VItPF� ARQ-IITflCIUItAL CXI�T�SSI�i Ng1RCH 13, 1990 The applicant replied that the awruxig would be secured with posts r�t attached to the buildirx�. The material has a five year guarantee so it would not be fading. It was moved by Calmissioner Urrutia, seconded by Catmissioner Connor, to cantinue the request rwting that the catmission felt the awning was rx�t appropriate for the design of the building, asking the applicant to resubmi.t new plans at the March 27, 1990 meeting. Carried 4-0-1, Catmissioner Druiy abstainir�r. Ccnmissioner Connor added that if it truly was the canvas type of awning it might be too light for the structure of the building. 3. C�SE N0. p�P'pLICANp (AI�ID A�RFSS): SAWYER OONSTRUCPION, 68-416 Perez Road, Suite E, Cathedral City, CA 92234 NATURE OF PROJECP/APPROVAL SO[�P: Approval of remodel to existing sirigle family residence IACATIaI�i: 44-694 Nbnterey Avenue 7��: Mr. Smith reported that the applicant is asking for approval of a remodel of the existing residence to an office professional use. Ca�m.issioner Holden comnented that he does r�t like to see too much money put into redevelopi.ng Manterey Avenue until it can be dr�ne correctly. Applicant, Gene Sawyer, stated that the awner is trying to establish his business, making this building presentable and eventually de�nolish the existirig builduzg and construct a new office canplex. Catmissioner Urrutia was concerned with the fact that the applicant intend.s to eventually replace the complex in the future, and even though it may be a few years off, the cannission still has an obligation to the canrnanity to make sure that the building has sane aesthetic quality. Doing very little may not be the best service. 4 wrr "�. N1I1VIT1'ES ARC�IITF7CIURP►I� �T�SSI(�I N�,RQ3 13, 1990 CamLissioner Urrutia added that he thr�ught more work should be d�one oa� the ba�ilding to make it look more like an office building, i.e. landscaping in fr�t area, signage, etc. It was maved by CaYmissioner Urrutia, seconded by CaYmissioner Connor to aontinue the request havi.ng the applicant review the follawing cancerns: 1) Comprehensive landscaping plans be pravided 2) Sign pz�ogz'am 3) ScreerLing of roof m�unted equipmealt 4) Addition of landscaping in front and rear of building 5) Architectural addition to front of structur�, i.e. wall Nbtion carried 5-0. 4. C�1SE 1�.• 352C APPLICANP (At�D At�RFS.S): MAY 00., c/o Doug Simnons, PaLn Desert Tavn Center, 77-840 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 I�ZURE OF PRQ►7E�CT/APPI�7VAL S(7UC�iT: Approval of revised plans for 21,000 square foot expansion of May Co. I+OCATIOI�T: 72-840 Highway 111 ZO[�: PC-3 Mr. Drell presented the tw�o options given by the applicant for the entrance extensian on the renbdeled west entry of May Co. The applicant noted that the addition of a trellis type canopy structure would just obscure the entrance and w�ld look like it was just added oa�to the building for no real functional purpose except to provide shade. He discu.ssed the secand opti� of adding a cantilev�ex extensi� �n the west side during the reconstxuctio�, but would not be able to provide this extension o� the existirig south side entrance as this would mean major reoonstruction closing the entrance for an extensive period of time. Catmissioner Urrutia asked if the west entrance w�ld be the main entrance. The applicant replied that it was rx�t, as the south side would remain the main entrance. Caimissianer Connor asked if the canopy trees would remain. The applicant noted that they w�uld, Yxxaever, they w�uld be pulled in closer to the building. Chainnan Gregory remirvded applicant that a more thc�rough landscape plan would still have to be submitted. 5 � � N�UI�S ARCf�TflCiURAL �T�SSI�i r+�,RC�t 13, 1990 It was moved by Ca�tissioner Drt�y, seconded by Cnainnan GregorY to apprave the 16' cantilever structural design car�opy ari the west entxy only. Nbti� was defeated � a 2-3 wte with Catmissioners Urrutia, Connor and Holden voting No. Cannissioner Urrutia felt the two entrances shauld be cba�e in the same fashion so the identification would be the same. Aesthetically the � entrances sh�ould be the same. It was maved by C17airman C�YegozY, sec�d bY CamLissioner DrurY, to leave the west entxy as it was originally presented wit.lx�ut the cantilever matchi.rig the existing r�orth and south entrance. Nbtion was defeated on a 2-3 wte with Catmissioners Urrutia, Canr�or and Holden voting N0. It was maved by Camiissioner Urrutia, seconded by Ga►missioner Cont�or to approve request for 16' cantilever structural design carwpy with the aondition that the exact same carx�py be done on the south side entrance. Carried 3-2, Chairman Gregory and Catmissioner Dnuy voting N0. Carmissioner Drury ryoted that she was not opposed to the expansion, but simply to requiring the south side enixance be the same an the west side. Cannissioner Urrutia added that it w�uld not necessarily be a cantilever design, that a colonnade design would be fine also, as lorig as both entries match. 5. CASE NO.: PP 89-21 A�LICANP (At�D ADDRF�S): TOYS R US, 461 FY�cm Road, Paramu.s, New Jersey, 07652 I�Il��[JRE pF pRU7F7GT/ApPROVAL SO[X��P; Approval of final landscape plan with signage IAC'ATIoI�I: Highway 111 at F`red Waring Drive ZOt�• PC (3) Ms. Sass presented the landscape and signage plans noting that the architectural working drawings had already been approved. Applicant, Jay Singer, was present. (�airman Gregory asked if the signs as proposed meet the city's aode requir�nents. Mr. Smith replied that the entxy sign w�uld; hawever, the signs at either end of the t�uilding ck� not, and explained to the applicant that the wall signs w�uld have to be reduced to a total of 104 square feet per side. 6 � � MI1�AtP�S ARQ�TF7CiURAL CX.M�IISSI�I N�RCH 13, 1990 Commissioner Drury asked about Geoffrey on the building. Mr. SirLger replied that it was to be a piece of art vu�rk as opposed to an illimtinated sign. He stated that they are proposing sane sort of stained glass el�nent for Geoffrey. Ca�missioner Drury noted that this piece projects out 16' shading the parking area. Mr. Singer added that landscaping will be placed around the added e�osed transformer. Cannissioner Connor noted that the mexican fan palms did riot se�n to meet the city's shade requirements. He also felt that the interior landscapirig (using mostly gravel and trees) w�uld not be appropriate. Mr. Singer asked commission for their input on the sign requirements in regards to the monument sign as well as the five colors the are shawing. Mr. Smi.th reminded cannission of the new ordinance limiting the maximum number of color to three. Catmissioner Urrutia suggested that the applicant use two colors an the sign with the "R" being a different color. Chairman Gregory reported that the entry and exit signs in black and white vaould be fine. It was moved by Commissioner Druzy, seconded by Comnissioner Urrutia, to �tinue the request with applicant to review the follawing concerns: 1) Return with plans srx7wing appropriate signage 2) Signage brought c3a�nz to code 3) Beef up landscaping 4) Meet city's parking lot shade tree requirements 5) Work on improving Geoffrey if it is to be part of the sign program 6) Nbnwnent sign will have to match e�sting sign Motion carried 5-0. Applicant asked if the exit and entxy signs are considered part of the square footage for signage. Mr. Smith noted that they were not. They are directional signs as long as they are 3 square feet or less. 6. CASE ND.• PP 90-4 APPLIC�TP (AI�ID AI�RESS): SC�lITZ/AI�IDERSON, Post Office Box 3992, Palm Desert, CA 92261 NATIJRS OF PROJECP/APPRaVAL SQX��: Preliminary approval of architectural and landscape plan for a 16 unit senior apaz-tment canplex 7 . ' � � NiI1V�E5 ARQ�TF�CtURAL �T�SSI�i NF�RCH 13, 1990 IrOCATIoI�T: San Rafael Avenue 7�• R-3 S.O. Mr. Schmitz and Mr. Al Cook presented the plans for the 16 unit senior aparbnPazt aomplex. Chairman Gregory asked where the air conditioning equi�ment w�uld be m�unted. Mr. Cook replied that they all are being m�unted in the side yards. CamLissioner Urrutia felt the elevations shaw that the buildings are very awkward. He also stated that the height of the building was 22'6" to the top of the buildirig. (�ainnan Gr�gory asked who would be mai.ntaining the side yards. The applicants replied that there will be trees planted along with concrete patios allawing the residents to landscape. Cannissioner Urrutia did rx�t like the idea of having guests walk through the parking lot to get to the units, and felt there was a need to screen off the cars fran the property. The applicant was willing to add a law 3-1/2' wall in front of the project and a walkway through the center of the parkirig lot enteririg the cornplex. It was moved by Catm.issioner Urrutia, seconded by CamLissioner Conn�or, to cantinue the request allawing the applicant to provide the followirig: 1) A detailed prel�minary landscape plan shawing adequate screen.ing added to the front of the property 2) Addition of entry sidewalk through parking lot with landscaping 3) Look at expanding the fascia of the project 4) Suggest the use of vertical trees (i.e. evergreen foliage) 5) Addition of low wall with landscaping i.n front of proj ect 6) Front of builduzg be studied as aancnission felt the emphasis is on the vertical el�nents having the walls . blank as stx�ni. Catmission w�.ild like to see sa[tething to break up the vertical appearance. Nbtion carried 3-0. 7. C�SE NO.• PP 89-34 APPLICANP (ArID ADDRESS): RAY PATSC�QC/BILL ROSSWI�RN, 640 No. Tustin #103, Santa Ana, CA 92705 8 . . � � MII�AtI'ES ARQ�Tf77CIIURAL �T�SSI�i N�tt�I 13, 1990 NAT[JRL OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SC�X��T: Preli.minazy approval of revised architectural and landscape plans IACATI�i: 44-211 and 44-213 San Pasqual 7,�: R2 S.O. Case was originally continued when it came before conm.issian as applicant was nr�t present. Applicants arrived at 1:50 p.m. with their revised plans. Ca�missioner Urrutia informed ap�licant that the oonditions the plannirig commission made offered a great deal of concern to the architectural cam�ission. He felt the entire calmissiari needed to be available to discuss the project again. C'hairmari �ozy r�oted that he would have to get with the planning caYmission to discuss their c�cerns in greater detail. 1V. The meetirig adjourned at 2:45 p.m. ^ � 'I'H �'_� _ ASSOCIATE PLF�NNER SS/db 9