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Home My WebLink About1990-05-08 � � NIIIV[tP�S PAi.M D�P �NNIISSI�i �AY, Ng�Y 8, 1990 �r�r*��r�t*�r**�r�-x�rx�r��r**�r**�r�t***�r�r�x�r��r�r*�r�� r��r I. The meeting was called to order at 12:20 p.m. Comnission Members C�rrent Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, Chairnlan X 8 1 Rick Holden X 9 0 Russell McCYea X 8 1 Mazy Drury X 5 4 �ank Urrutia X 7 2 Wayne Coruzor X 9 0 Others Present: Steve Smith Phil Drell Catherine Sass Pat Bedrosian Brent Conley Donna Bitter It was moved by Conmissioner Holden, seconded by Cc�missioner Urrutia, to approve the minutes of the April 18, 1990 meeting as amended. Carried 4-0- l, Commissioner McC�rea abstaining. It was moved by Comnissioner Holden, seconded by Caranissioner Urrutia, to approve the minutes of the April 24, 1990 meeting as subnitted. Carried 4- 0-1, Commissioner Connor abstainirx�. II. Moved by Conenissioner McX'..rea, s� by Commissirner Holc3e�n, -bo ap�ve the follawir�g cas�s by minute motiori. C�Yried 5-0. 1. CASE N0.• 1747 SA APPLICANP (ArID A�.S): NEmLEPOINT JOINT, 73-851 Highway 111, Palm Desext, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification sign LCXATI�1: 73-851 Highway 111 7.0[�: C1 Co�nission appraved frant sign using 9" letters and rear sign with 6" letters subject to the background being changed to ivory in color. � �.r� NIINUPES ARCHITE7C'ItJRAL R�TIII�T N�Y 8, 1990 2. CASE NO.: 1748 SA APPLICANP (AND ADDRESS): DAHI�ALDA PROPERTIES, c/o Lobelar�d Waring, 73-350 E1 Paseo, Suite 207, Palm Desert, CA 92260 I�IZURE OF P1�OJ�GT/APPROVAL� SO[J�P: Apprwal of awning with �Lzao signs IACATIoI�I: 73-280 El Paseo Y�tE• Cl Approved by minute motion with the condition that the vinyl background be charx�ed from white to ivory. Applicant will need to provide staff with detailed lighting for final approval. 3. CASE 1�A.• 2 SF WALL APPLICANP (p,t�ID AD�S): ZAC�CC I-�NSLEY, 74-370 Covered Wagon Trail, Palm Desert, CA 92260 i�ZURE OF PI�DJDC,T/APPROVAL SO[X�P: Approval of six (6) foot high wall with 12' setback fran curb LOCATI�i: 74-370 Covered Wagon Trail Z�: Rl 4. CASE N0.• PP 89-21 APPLICANP (ArID ADDRFSS): TOYS R US, 461 PYom Road, Paramus, New Jersey 07652 1�17.[JRE OF PROJF7C.T/APP1�Cn7AL SdUC��P: Approval of final landscape plans LOCATI�i: Highway 111 at Fred Waring Drive ZONE- PC (3) Approved by minute motion with the condition that the 23 trees be added in order to meet the city's shade tree parking lot requirements. Chairman Gregory abstained. . 2 � � � ARQiITflGI[)RAL R�7IET�T N�,Y 8, 1990 5. CASE N0.• PP 90-7 APPLI(�NP (ArID ADDRFS.S): U.S.A. PROPERTIES, 3179 Temple Avenue, Suite 170, Panona, CA 91768-3241 NAT[JRE OF PROJE�CP/APPRaVAL gQX�fP: Pr'el;m;narl appx'Oval fOr revised plans on a 28 unit conc�ominium project LOCATI�i: Southwest corner of Santa Rosa/Portola ZO[�: R-2 S.O. Preliminary architectural plans were approved by minute motion. Hawever, Cannissioner Urrutia noted that the project was very tight and could be opened up with internal planning. Minute motion carried 4-0-1, with Chaizman Gregory abstainin�. 6. CASE NCJ.: PP 89-19 APPLICAN'P (AND ADDRESS): OLIPHANP/LIZZA ASSOCIATES, 77-990 Avenue of the States, Palm Desert, CA 92260 I�,7.URE OF PRQTEX,T/APPRaTAL SO[�1T: Approval of final vaorking drawi.ngs IACATIOI�i: Northeast corner of Portola and Highway 111 ZOI�: C-1 O.P. Note: Final landscape working drawings were previously approved. Approval of the architectural final working drawings was given by minute motion with the condition that all mechanical equignent not exceed the 3-1/2' equipment well parapet walls and visual screening is pravided for the second story balcony. Minute motion carried 4-0-1, with Chairman Gregory abstair�ing. 7. CASE NO.: 354 C APPLICAN`P (AND ADDRESS): GEORGE BUONO-MARK BEMILLE, c/o Ceramari, Post Office Box 12920, Palm Desert, CA 92255 NATURE OF PROJEGT/APPRWAL SQX��: Preliminary approval of revised plans for major remodel and second story addition to industrial building I�OCATIo[�T: Southwest corner of Cook Street and 42nd Avenue 3 . � � NII1V[tI�S ARQiITF�CIURAI� RE�TI�T N�Y 8, 1990 7�IE: S.I. Approved my minute motion to cantinue the case at the applicant's request. III. ORAL �NMJNICATIOlVS Steve Smith announced the joint meeting with A.R.C. , Planning CaYmission and the City Council on F`riday, June 15th. The location of the meeting will be deterniined at a later date. Mr. Smith asked camiissian to give any suggested items they want placed on this agenda. 1V. C�SF�: 1. CASE ND.: 1749 SA APPLIC�fP (ArID ADDRESS); BALLROOM IMAGES DANC:'E STUDIO, 73-290 El Paseo, Suite 3, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECP/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signs (2) IAQ1TIOlv: 73-290 El Paseo, Suite 3 7A�• C1 S.P. Steve Smith presented pictures of building location. Applicant, F`rederick Connor, was requesti.ng to install 18" �x�od sign in front and rear of building. Staff rec�nended that cannission only approve sign for rear of building. Mr. Connor rvoted that the proposed signs would be lined up with the adjoining e.xisting signs. Cannissioner Urrutia rioted that there is an existi.ng building that presently has two awnings placed on either end. Camiission felt the sign beirig proposed for the breezeway would not fit in with what was already there. Gannissioner Urrutia did want to see the same type of awning in the breezeway instead of the proposed wood sign. CamLissioner Urrutia added that it should be more in keeping with what was existing. He felt the rear sign vaould be r�o probl�n. It was mrved by Carnussioner Urrutia, seconded by Conm.issioner MrCrea, to apprave the request for signage based on the front sign being an awning to match the existing awnings with the same typ� of letter application presently existi.ng. The rear sign was acceptable as submitted. Ca.rried 5-0. 4 � � � ARQiITF)L�i[IRAL RE�TIEW N�Y 8, 1990 2. CASE NO.: 1743 SA APPLICANT (AI�ID ADDRESS): PALM DESERT ANTIQUE MALL, 73-983 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 P�,7.URE OF PRC?J�C,T/APPROVAL SOUC�iT: Reconsideration of additional business identification sign IACATIC�T: 73-9$3 Highway 111 7�• Gl Steve Smith reported that the request was to install the caord "antiques" on the east end of the building. Staff was concerned with the height of the sign. Mr. Smith presented pl�otos shawing existi.ng lettering on the same wall. It was moved by Cannissioner McCrea, seconded by Comnissio�er Connor to apprave the sign to read "antique mall" on the east wall. Nbtion carried 5-0. 3. CASE N0.' PP 88-10 APPLIC�INP (AI�ID ADDRFSS): RAY LAC�RTE, 72-880 F`red Waring Drive #14, Palm Desert, CA 92260; C��ARLES MARTIN, 40-840 Thunderbird Road, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJEGT/APPR(7VAL SOUCC�iT: Sign program for office c�nplex I,OCATI�t: Southwest corner of FYed Waring Drive and San Luis Rey ZAi�: O-P Steve Smith reported that the program would consist of redwe�d sandblasted signs and would range fran 18" x 8' to 18" x 12' depending on the tenant space. He added that the applicant is allawed three (3) colors for the entire project r�ot including the background which w�ould be gray. It was maved by Coimlissioner McCY�ea, seconded by Commissioner Connor to approve the sign program subject to the follawing conditions: 1) Colors to be used would be teal, rust and black with a gray background. 5 � °,�. `� NIDVUI�'S ARC;f�'1'E7CI'[7fiAL� RE�7IE�T N�Y 8, 1990 2) If a logo is requested by the tenant, applicant c�ould use one color from the logo along with tv� of the approved colors listed. Motion carried 5-0. 4. C�SE ND.' PP 88-23 APPLICANT (Ai�ID ADDRESS): GEORGE A. FISC�R, 46-241 Papagio, Indian Wells, CA 92210 1�12URE OF PR�0�7F7CT/APPROVAL SOIXaETP: Approval of final w�rking drawings for a 3,755 square foot general co�►nercial building LOCATI�i: Palm Desert Drive South, 3 lots east of Portola ZO[�: C-1 S.P. Applicant, Bob Riccardi, was present. Catherine Sass felt the project w�ould have to have a curb added to the w�rking drawings as the adj oi ni rx�-�r property owner was refusi.ng to share parking and access to the property. Chairman Gregory was concerned with the planting on the north side of the project. He felt the landscapirig proposed we�uld riot graw in this shaded area notirx� that the gazanias would not work for ground cover in this area. It was moved by CaYmissioner Conr�or, seconded by Catmissioner McC,Yea, to approve the final wr�rkirig drawings with the follawing conditions: 1) Meet the city's parking lot shade tree requirements 2) Upgrade irrigation system 3) Relocate landscapi.ng finger and pravide shade tree 4) Increase mexican fan palms to 10' of brawn trunk 5) Ground cover on the north side of building should be more shade tolerant 6) Addition of curb on east side of property Motion carried 4-0-1, Commissioner Urrutia absta;n�n�. 5. CASE NO.• 1712 SA APPLIC�,NP (A�ID ADDRFSS): DAD'S DOG HOUSE, 72-695 Highway 111, Suite A-7, Palm Desert, CA 92260 6 � � � NII1�AtI'F.S ARQ-IITF7CI[JFiAL REVIET�T Ng1Y 8, 1990 I�,ZURE OF PRU7�CT/APPROVAL SOUG�P: Approval of revised business identification sign I+OCATIOI�T: 72-695 Highway 111, Sui.te A-7 7�• G2 Applicant, Neil Patler, proposed three (3) different graphic designs. It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner McC`rea to approve the revised business sign shaaing "hot c3ogs, cold beer and wann friends" printed on the dog h�use graphic with the condition that the background be changed to ivozy with black, Style No. 4 FYontier lettering. Motion carried 5-0. 6. C�SE Nl�.• 1745 SA APPLIC�,NP (ArID AI�RF�S): HARV'S c/o Rick Durham, 83-480 Avenue 45, No. 15, Indio, CA 92201 1�1ZURE OF PRUJF7C,T/APPRiWAL SOUC��: Approval of revised wall and monuntent sign LOCATI0�11: Southeast corner of Cook and Sheryl ZO[�• S.I. Phil Drell presented revised monwnerit and landscaping plans. Ca�m.issioner Holden was concerned that the proposed retaining wall extended out to the sidewalk with no landscaping buffer. He also felt that when driving by this sign it would be difficult to see the sign as proposed as it caould sit 9' high on the 3' retairLn� wall. Applicant addressed cannission stating that the building is not a car care center. He felt a car care center offers much more than his facility woould, and it caould be misleading to the canrn�ity if his monument sign read "car care center" instead of what he is proposing it to read "car wash, detail center, oil, lube and snog inspection". CcYnmissioner Holden informed the applicant that a morn.unent sign can stx7w one business name only or the name of the business center itself. He felt the proposed sign was still considered a menu sign and added that the more information placed on a sign the harder it is to read for people drivi.ng by. 7 � �. NiIl�A7I�S AR(�IITF7Cft.1RP►L RES7I�W I�1Y 8, 1990 The applicant addressed the fountain flaw concern stating that he wanted people to notice the sign reading Harv's, not attract attention to a large water fall. Chairman Gregory requested to see the plans showing haw the wall will be pulled back with the addition of the landscaping. Caimissioner Urrutia r�ted that the applicant still did not address the suggestion of breaking up the water flo�w in the fountain. Cannissioner Holden indicated that the cornnissian wr�uld need more accurate drawings. It was maved by Camiissioner Urrutia, seconded by CamLissioner McCrea, to deny the requested monument sign stating the following cancerns: 1) Contnission needs site plan shawing locatian of sign structure as it relates to the wall at the rx�rthwest corner of the lot and haa it will effect the landscaping and grading. 2) "Car Wash, Detail Center, Oil, Lube and Smog Inspection" con.sidered to be a menu sign. Catmission would approve "Car Care Center" 3) Concerns with the fountain working. CamLission felt it looked too small to function properly. 4) Possibly breaking up the water flaw 5) Sign to be externally lit Nbtion carried 5-0. 7. CASE ND.• PP 89-12 APPLICANP (AI�ID AD�DRESS): GEORGE 1�TSOVAS, Post Office Box 5132, Orange, CA 92667 1�1ZURE OF PROJF7GT/APPROVAL SOUC��T: Business sign Arogram I,OCATIO�i: 72-918 Highway 111 7ANE• G1 Applicant proposed a dark blue and a light blue color with an off- white background. Com�nission required the background to be opaque matching the color of the building. Letters to be lit fran behind. The applicant n�ted that he was trying to achieve light for the parking lot with these lit signs. Chairman G`regory replied that sign lighting should riot be used for lighting of the parki.ng lot and recannended that considerable attention be paid to additional parking lot lighting. 8 . � w� � NII1V[�FS ARQ�IIT�G'IURAL REVIE�t N�,Y 8, 1990 It was moved by Camtissioner Holden, seoonded by Cann.issioner McCrea, to approve the requested business sign using color Na. 2051 (dark blue) and No. 2324 (light blue) with the background being opaque matching the color of the building. Individual letters to be lit fran behisid consistent with Section 25.68.490 of the City Qrdinance. Nbtion carried 5-0. 8. CASE rA.: PP 90-1 AppI,IC�NP (Ai�ID p,DDgESS): F�E'1'�I OOI�LLEY, Post Office Box 971, Solaryo Beach, CA 92075 NATURE OF PROJ�CP/APPRUVAL SQX�i�: Prel�m�na� approval for 11,304 square foot office building i.ncluding landscaping LOG�TIoI�T: 73-330 Highway 111 7.0�: G1 Phil Drell suggested that three palms be placed at the adjoining property lines varyirig in height. C�airman Gregory noted that the courtyard planting needed to be restudied. After further discussion, it was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to grant preliminary appraval with the follaaing conditions: 1) Relocate the trash enclosure to the back parking lot allawing space for additional palms 2) Back wall in parking lot to be jogged back 2 or 3 feet to allaw access to the rear 2 parkirig spaces 3) Resolve the location of the air conditioning equipment outside the buildirig (cooling taaer) 4) Change the one lobby stairway dawn to the parking area 5) Placement of taller, grouped palm trees in front of the buildisig 6) Meet city's parking lot shade tree requirements 7) The english ivy, Oregon grape and marathon sod clo not do well in the desert and w�ould need to be replaced 8) The second floor landscape plan needs much more detail. Cannission felt the depth w�ould not caork. Nbtion carried 5-0. 9. CASE 1V�.: PP 90-8 p,ppI,ICANr (p�t�ID AI�RESS); TOWNGATE FINANCIAL, c/o Ray Fox, 2650 Camir� de Rio North, Suite 200, San Diego, CA 92108 9 . • � �: r�IIIVt7I�.'S ARQiITF]CiURAI, REVIEL�T Ng1Y 8, 1990 NATURE OF PRU7F](,T/APPRC7VVAI, SO[X��P: Preliminary approval for 49,600 square foot office building including landscaping LOCATIoIv: Southwest corner of Fred Wari.ng and San Pablo ZC�IE: O.P. Phil Drell presented the preliminary plans to commission. Commissioner Urrutia wauld like to see more landscaping around the building and was concerned with the air conditioning mechanical equipnerit facilities. He also stated that he felt the building could clo without the vaood inserts over the windaws. Applicant noted that the hard corners could be rounded to soften the building if camtission requested. Chairman Gregozy would like to see the building brought back fran Fred Waring n4ting that he felt it was too close to the street. It was moved by Ccnmissioner Urrutia, seconded by Camt.issioner Connor, to c�ntinue the prel�minary plan,s directing the applicant to address the follawi.ng: 1) Restudy the architectural plans 2) Areas require softening with landscapirig, including ramp area 3) Restudy loading area 4) Dead end isles need to be studied 5) Landscapirig should be added around center parking area 6) Air conditioning equipnent facilities need to be noted 7) Bus tzirn out shelter to be investigated 8) Screen walls r�ot necessary 9) Concerned with massiveness of the building 10) Restudy plant pallet, as 1/3 of plants rx�ted will not work in desert area 11) Large tree wells over parking lot Motion carried 4-0, rioting the Comnissioner McC`rea left meeting prior to this case. V. AU7CJURI�N�VT: The meeting adjourned at 3:45 p.m. :, , �- ;' _� � '"��_ k,� .� SMITH ASSOCIATE PLANNER SS/db 10