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I. CALL TO ORDER.
The meeting was called to order at 12:25 p.m.
Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ron Gregory, Chairman X 19 2
Rick Holden X 21 0
Frank Urrutia X 18 3
Russell McCrea X 19 2
Christopher VanVliet X 3 0
Wayne Connor, Alternate X 15 6
Staff Present: Phil Drell
Steve Smith
Jeff Winklepleck
Donna Bitter
Brent Conley
Dean Dunlap
Pat Bedrosian
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner McCrea,
to approve the minutes of the November 13, 1990 meeting as submitted.
Motion carried 5-0.
III.. It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Camtissioner VanVliet,
to approve the follotiving cases by minute m�tic n:
1. CASE NO.: 1865 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SIGN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION for
CHARLES HECHT GALLERIES, 41-421 Jamaica Sands Drive, Bermuda
Dunes, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised signage
LOCATION: 73-375 E1 Paseo, Suite A
ZONE: Cl S.P.
2. CASE NO. : CUP 89-7
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): OLIPHANT, LIZZA AND ASSOCIATES, 77-900
Avenue of the States, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final working
drawings
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LOCATION: Northwest of Monterey and Fred Waring Drive
ZONE: O.P.
Approved by minute motion subject to the parapets extending far
enough to screen the roof mounted equipment.
3. CASE NO.: 1870 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PORTOLA GOLF CENTER, 74-041 Highway
111, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage
LOCATION: 74-041 Highway 111
ZONE: Cl S.P.
4. CASE NO.: 1868 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): TROPICAL SHADE AND AWNING FACTORY for
STEINER AND SONS JEWELRY, 401 Radio Road #B18, Palm Springs, CA
92262
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans
for a 4 unit senior apartment project
LOCATION: 73-260 El Paseo
ZONE: Cl S.P.
5. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): COC HRAN RESIDENCE, 73-110 Deer Grass,
Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Single family home exceeding
15' height limit
LOCATION: 73-110 Deer Grass
Commission approved 17' height by minute motion.
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IV. CASES:
A. Final Drmdngs:
1. CASE NO.• 1857 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALM SPRINGS SHADE for DIAMONDS FOR
KLURE, 5000 Calle San Raphael, Palm Springs, CA 92264
NATURE OF PROOBCT/APPROVAL SOLXM: Approval of revised awning
with signage
LOCATION: 73-375 El Paseo, Suite 0
ZONE: Cl S.P.
The applicant, Gary Owens, presented revised plans showing a more
finished look and how the awnings would be cut back. Commissioner
Urrutia noted that the oc mussion had directed the applicant to
submit something that would be more compatible with the building.
The representative from Diamonds For Klure, Ivan Kalensky, noted
that with such a substantial inventory his insurance agent
requires a number of items to meet their requirements. The store
has to be monitored on a 24-hour basis and the cameras need to be
5 feet from the store in order for the wide angle lenses to work
properly. Mr. Kalensky would like to mount this camera equipment
inside the proposed awning.
Commissioner Holden noted that they were looking for a different
design type and the applicant returned with the same awning
proposal. Mr. Owen reported that with the weight of the equipment
in these awnings, this is the only type of awning that would work
without using score type of posts.
The applicants then asked for approval of the one awning only for
Diamonds For Klure. Chairman Gregory noted that if the applicant
next to this shop canes before commission asking for an additional
awning, they would not grant approval. Steve Smith noted that
technically the city has not received an application from the
adjacent building owner, and therefore the proposal for one awning
would be appropriate.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Commissioner
VanViiet, to approve the single awning only for Diamonds For
Klure. Motion carried 5-0.
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2. CASE NO.: 271 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): COUNTESS VON HULLESSEM, 73-405 El Paseo
#31A, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOU(M: Approval of awning with
signage
LOCATION: 73-405 El Paseo #31A
ZONE: C1 S.P.
Steve Smith reported that this proposal had come before commission
several years ago and was denied. The applicant noted that she
would be using an existing structure, adding a valance.
Commissioner Holden reported that an actual awning was approved
several years ago that had a shape to it. Rather than installing
the approved awning, a banner type of material was installed.
Commission did not like the look of a banner type material hanging
from the existing beam.
Commissioner Urrutia felt the applicant would need to come back
with an alternate solution. Commissioner Holden noted that the
applicant could use larger and different letters on the existing
beam.
Commission directed applicant to work towards an alternate
solution suggesting 12" brass letters placed on the existing 18"
beam.
3. CASE NO.: 1850 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SIGN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION for MELICD
SUITES, 41-421 Jamaica Sands Drive, Bermuda Dunes, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Revised identification
signage
LOCATION: 73-375 E1 Paseo, Colonade Building
ZONE: C-1
Eric Severte with Sign Design and Construction and Dennis Mellili
of Melico Suites presented drawings showing the proposed location
of the revised signage.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner McCrea, seconded by Chairman Gregory,
to approve the revised identification signage as submitted.
Motion carried 4-1, with Commissioner Urrutia opposing.
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4. CASE NO.: CUP 90-17
APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): LOUISE'S PANTRY, 44-491 Town Center
Way, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJBCr/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised proposal
to enclose existing patio dining area
LOCATION: One Eleven Town Center
ZONE: P.C. (3) S.P.
The contractor, Dave Price, noted that the proposed awnings would
be the same color and type as the existing awnings on the
building.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner
McCrea, to grant preliminary approval of the revised patio dining
area enclousre subject to the offset from the northeast corner of
the existing building being 30" to 36" and a new landscape concept
plan be submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
5. CASE NO.: CUP 90-19
APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): SCHMITUANDERSON, Post Office Box 29,
Palm Desert, CA 92261
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOU(WT: Approval of final working
drawings
LOCATION: Five unit senior complex on the east side of San
Rafael Avenue, north of San Gorgonia
ZONE:
Commission discussed the revised landscaping plans with the
applicant.
Action:
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner McCrea,
to grant approval of the final working drawings with landscaping
subject to the following conditions:
1) Jacarandas increased from 15 gallon to 24" box
2) Addition of dwarf oleander in front of front wall
3) Elimination of ground cover behind garages
Motion carried 5-0.
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B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO.: PP/CUP 90-20
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CHRISTIAN LOZANO, 68-245 Marina Road,
Cathedral City, CA 92234
NATURE OF PRWEC,T/APPIiD M SO[XW: Preliminary approval of plans
for a 4 unit senior apartment project
LOCATION: 73-602 Santa Rosa Way
ZONE: R-2 S.O.
ccamission discussed the elevations with applicant. Caimissioner
Urrutia noted that the wood accent wall showing the apartment
signage would be a definite problem in the future as the wood
would not last in the desert weather conditions. The applicant
agreed to use stucco in place of the wood. Comlissioner Urrutia
questioned the need for a window in the laundry roan.
Action:
It was moved by Cannissioner Urrutia, seconded by cc missioner
VanVliet, to grant preliminary approval of the architectural plans
only with the following conditions:
1) Side yard walls to be masonry block with stucco finish
2) Addition of planter area needed to separate parking spaces at
carport
3) Screening of air conditioning equipment
4) Trash enclosure needs to be identified
5) Wood accent wall showing apartment signage changed to stucco
Landscaping plans to be restudied and submitted for approval.
Motion carried 5-0.
2. CASE NO.: PP 90-26
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RAYMOND PATSCHECK c/o ACACIA PARTNERS,
640 No. Tustin Avenue #103, Santa Ana, CA 92705
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of
elevations and landscaping for office project
LOCATION: Southwest corner of Fred Waring Drive and Acacia
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ZONE: R-1 (Proposed O.P. )
Phil Drell reported that the applicant was requesting a variance
on the front setbacks with the 28' parkway. The setback from the
curb will be similar to what occurs in the O.P. zone. Chairman
Gregory noted that the emphasis is now on more water efficient
planting minimizing the lawn area by 1/3% to 1/2% placing more
emphasis on a bubbler type system. Commissioner Urrutia felt that
because of the location, there was no room for lawn. He added
that the parking lot side needs more attention. He felt that the
side of the building where people will be getting out of their
cars and walking into the building should look as nice as the
front of the building.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner McCrea to grant conceptual approval
of the plans. Motion died due to a lack of a second.
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner
VanVliet, to continue the request directing applicant to address
the following issues:
1) More emphasis on water efficient planting, minimizing the
lawn area by 1/3 to 1/2 percent with use of a bubbler type
system.
2) Additional landscaping in the parking area. Trees to be
placed every three spaces to comply with city requirements.
Diamond cut-outs acceptable.
3) Relocate trash enclosure area to a location where people
aren't constantly walking by.
4) Need for continuity along entire building.
5) Balconies to be redesigned to restrict their view to the
residential area on the south.
Motion carried 4-1, Commissioner Holden abstaining.
3. CASE NO.: PP 90-25
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SMITH PARTNERS, 28924 Front Street
#103, Temecula, CA 92390
NATURE OF PROJECP/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans
for four concrete tilt up industrial buildings
LOCATION: East side of Beacon Hill at Mayfair Drive
ZONE: S.I.
chairman Gregory noted that the honeysuckle in lieu of lawn would
not work.
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner
McCrea, to grant preliminary approval of the architectural plans
only with the following conditions:
1) A more water efficient plan needed in lieu of the mass of
honeysuckle.
2) Provide sun protection with the use of some type of trellis
work or overhangs.
3) Use of different tones of color for each individual building.
Applicant to return with color samples for commission
approval.
4) Screening of roof mounted equipment.
5) Trash enclosure does not reflect proper size to meet city's
recycling requirement.
Landscaping and site plans to be restudied and submitted to
oc mtission for approval. Motion carried 5-0.
C. Cases Added to Agenda:
1. CASE NO.: 1881 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THE CHILDREN'S SHOP, 73-100 El Paseo,
Suite 3, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of store frontage
business identification signage
LOCATION: 73-100 El Paseo, Suite 3
Material would be stucco on a structural cantilever awning.
Commissioner Urrutia liked what the applicant had done. He did,
however, have some concerns with the cantilever and how far it had
gone out.
Action:
It was moved by CmYnissioner Holden, seconded by CamLissioner
Urrutia to approve the awning subject to cutting the main awning
back to the property line and the adjacent awnings to step back
from that point. Motion carried 5-0.
2. CASE NO.: 1882 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): FISC HER ARCHITECTURE CONSTRUCTION for
CHICO'S, 75-140 St. Charles Place, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage
LOCATION: 73-100 El Paseo, Suite 4
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Frontage would be a glass pop out with a vinyl covered canvas
awning, teal in color.
Action:
It was moved Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner
VanVliet, to approve the awning as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
V. MISCELLANEUUS:
Phil Drell discussed questions from the landscaping staff regarding
final approval of landscaping in the public right-of-ways. Chairman
Gregory would like to have the final look at these plans and give staff
input. Commissioner Holden thought that Eric Johnson's and Frank
Gonzalez's decisions could be challenged as they are not licensed.
Commissioner Urrutia felt that the idea is to have guidelines that are
compatible that both commission and staff could work with. Mr. Drell
noted that the city had hired an organization to put together a
landscaping manual. Chairman Gregory requested to see this manual
before final publications are made.
Commissioner Urrutia asked about the city's views on requiring licensed
architects when submitting plans. He noted that commission looks at
work from both unlicensed and licensed architects. Mr. Drell replied
that all final structural drawings must be prepared by a licensed
architect or structural engineer. He added that staff follows the
guidelines provided by the state.
Commissioner Holden rued that after the first of the year all plans
will have to be stamped showing the expiration date of the license.
Commissioner Holden felt the city should adopt an ordinance stating
that only licensed architects are to be used. Mr. Drell suggested that
if commission felt strongly about the issue they could adopt a
resolution and staff take it to council.
Commissioner Holden requested that the architectural firm be shown on
all plans when they came before the commission. He also felt the name
of the designer be added to the actual application. Commission asked
that this item be placed on the December 11, 1990 agenda for further
discussion.
VII. ADJOURNMEM
The meeting adjourned at 3:10 p.m.
SMITH
ASSOCIATE PLANNER
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