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Home My WebLink About1991-01-08 , �rr+✓ �..r+ NII1�lI'ES PAT3�! DE�T �T�IISSIQ�I T[lmlAY, JAN[�IRX 8, 1991 ��**�***�t�r*��r�r**��tir�r�r•x��*�r�r****�rir�r�r�t*�t�t*��x�r*****�r�r�t�r�r*�rx*�r**��r* I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12:20 p.m. Co�rgnission Members Ct.Lrrent Meeti.ng Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregozy, Chairman X 1 0 Rick Holden X 1 0 F`rank Urrutia X 1 0 Russell McCxea X 1 p Christopher VanVliet x 1 0 Wayne Conr�r, Alternate 1 0 1 Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith Jeff Winklepleck Pat Bedrosian Pat Conlon Donna Bitter II. APPRIC7VAL OF MINttPFS: It was moved by C�anissioner Holden, seconded by Conmissioner Urrutia, to approve the minutes of the December 11, 1990 meeting as sub�nitted. Motion carried 6-0. III. It was mavea t�y ao�[missioner Md�p.a, seo� b�i C�ni.ssiorier vanvliet, to ap�av+e tt�e folluairrl ca,ses by misnite motion. 1. CASE 1V0.: 1894 SA APPLICANP (1°SID ADDRESS): T� IDGE, 73-735 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 1�'I[JftE OF PRQ7E7GT/AP�'ROVAL SO[x�3'P: Approval of neon blue sign with neon pink underline reading "Computers, Etc." I�OCATi�i: 73-735 Highway 111 Approval subject to existing signage reading "The Edge" being removed fran the parapet. Vote Carried 4-1, with C�issioner Holden voting No. 2. CASE I�.' PP 90-9 APPLICAI�i' (AND ADDRESS): WAYNE (JONNOR AND ASSOCIATES for MIC�iAEL HOi�, 44-267 Monterey Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260 1�12URE OF PR0.7�CP/APPI�VAL SaUC��T: Landscape plan approval for two office buildings , �r `r�` NLLIVItPES AR(�IITE�Cft]RAL REVIEW ��SSI�i JAN�IRY 8, 1991 LOCATIO�T: East side of Monterey Avenue at end of Catalina Way ZONE: O.P. Landscape plan approved with the noted comments fran the public works departrnent being considered advisory. 3. CASE 1vC).: 1899 SA APPLICAN'P (AND ADDRFS.S): MARK PALMER DESIGN for ROADRUNNER ESCROW, 41-995 Boardwalk, Suite A-1, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECr/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification sign with logo I�CX'ATIO�i: 44-200 Monterey Avenue, Suite B ZONE: O.P. 4. C'ASE IVC).• 362 C APPLICANP (At� ADDRFSS): NUi' KETI'LE c/o HAF2DY FINANCIAL, 4909 Lakewood Blvd., Lakev,�od, CA 90712 1�7.URE OF PROJflC,T/APPR�JVAL SOUC�P: Storefront rerriodel IACATI�i: 44-489 Taan Center Way, Suite E 7�iE: PC-3 Case was continued because the applicant was not present with proposed plans. 5. CASE ND.• PP 89-32 APPLICAI�fP (Ai�ID ADDRESS): LEVI LII�V c/o �IS MILLS, 121 So. Palm Canyon Drive, Suite 222, Palm Springs, CA 92262 1�1�[)Rg pF pRCh7�C,T/AppI�OVAL SOUC,��: Final approval of working drawings for 4760 square foot medical building LOCATIC�i: South side of FYed Waring Drive between San Anselmo and Nbnterey Avenue ZO�: O.P. Final approval was for architectural plans only. 2 � � � p,R(HITflCiURAL REVI�W ��SSIOI�i JAN[]ARY 8, 1991 6. CASE NO.- 1896 SA 1.1ppLIrANP (AI�ID ADDRES.S): SIC�1S BY MEL for BOARDWALK BUSINESS CENTER, 945 Boardwalk, Suite B, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECP/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of building identification manwnent sign LOCATI�i: 41-910 Boardwalk, Suite A & B 7�: S.I. Approval subject to the base of the sign being concrete with a maximum height of 18" and confirmation of the letter size. 7. CASE NO.• PP 90-27 APPLICANP (AI�ID ADDRF�S): PORTOLA DEVELOPMENT, Maurice Johns, 41- 865 Boardwalk, Suite 12, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJ�C,T/APPRO�TAL SQX��: Preli m�nary approval for single family detached home c�►ponent of Ranaho Portola Countzy Club L(X'ATIO�i: Northeast corner of FY�ank Sinatra and Portola Z�IE• PR-5, RIM Motion carried on a 4-0-1 vote, with Commissioner Urrutia abstaining. 1V. CASES• A. Final n*'��: 1. CASE ND.• 1884 SA APPLIC',ANT (A� A�RFSS): AMERICAN AWNING �ANY for GRETA, 44- 489 Tawn Center Way #194 Palm Desert, Ca 92260 1�,`IURE OF PROJF�C,T/APPROVAI. SOUC�P: Approval of awning with signs L�(XX`.`ATI�i: 73-130 El Paseo Z�• C1 S.P. Steve Smith rioted that the revised awning proposed shawed it being cut back so that the face would be 10' fran the curb. The total awnirig projection would be 128". The name "Greta" to be placed on either side of the awning with a 10" logo in front. There are existi.ng awnings on either side of the proposed awning. 3 "�r�r' �,�.✓ MLN[fPFS AR(�iIT�CI[A2AL REVIEW aNNLISSI�i JANITARY 8, 1991 Coinmissioner VanVliet asked what the planter boxes w�uld be made out of. The applicant was r�ot definite on the size or material of the boxes but thought they would be made out of the same stucco finish as the existing planter boxes. Co�nissioner Holden was concerned with the actual size left for a planting area once the concrete blocks and rims of the planter boxes were in place. Action� It was moved by Caimissioner Urrutia, seconded by C�ssioner McGrea, to grant conceptual appraval of the awning directing the applicant to pravide details on how the awning is to be extended and the actual size of the planter boxes. Staff to review revised plans that conform to the commissions direction for final approval. Materials to match existing awnings and planters. Motion carried 5-0. 2. CASE NO.' 1895 SA APPLICANr (AI�ID ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES THEATRES, 72-755 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260; SIGNTEQ�i, Jerry Murdock, 6618 Federal Blvd., Lemon Grove, CA 91945 1�,ZURE OF PROJ�C.T/APPRO�L SC7UC�P: Replace existing freestanding sign with new freestanding sign LCX'ATI�T: 72-755 Highway 111 7,aNE: PC (3) S.P. The applicant, Jerry Murdock, noted that the problem with lowering the sign w�uld be vandalism. The zip lock letters are stolen off the sign when they are lo�w to the ground. Co�nissioner Urrutia asked haw this sign relates to the existing sign and Mr. Murdock replied that it had been reduced by 250. Comnissioner Urrutia w�ould like to see the white color toned down a bit to a more ivory color; but other than that, thought it was a great improvement. C�anissioner Holden liked the design, but would like to see the size cut down. Mr. Murdock noted that the sign would be internally lit with fluorescent lights and the letters shaaing the movie names would be lit by the lights of the oncani.ng vehicles. Staff noted that vehicle lights would not hit this sign where it is located. Cannission was still not clear on haw the lightirig would vaork and directed the applicant to prepare a revised profile giving all the details. 4 � � �I'F� ARCHITE7CI[JRAL REVI�+i �T�SSI�1 JAN[TARY 8, 1991 Action: It was moved by CorYmissioner Holden, seconded by Conanissioner Urrutia, to rer,ogrLize that the sign was not consistent with the city's ordinance; however, found it to be an improvement over the existing sign. Ca�anission rioted that if approved by city council, the sign should come back to A.R.C. for final approval. Comnission will need to see canplete details as well as the landscaping plan for the base of the sign. Nbtion carried 5-0. 3. CASE NO.: 1897 SA APPLICANP (ArID ADDRESS): SIGNS BY MEL for SOiJTf�iLAND FINANCIAL, 945 Boardwalk, Suite B, Palm Desert, CA 92260 I�,7.[JRE OF PROJ�CT/APPRCIVAL SOUC�fP: Business identification sign LOCATI�i: 74-350 Alessandro Jeff Wi.nklepleck reported that staff felt the proposed monument sign was crawded in it's location. Comnissioner Holden asked about the previously appraved sign program for this building. Mr. Drell n�ted that there is one tenant for the entire building, and he was r�w requestirig this wall sign in addition to the appraved pedestrian signage. CaYmissioner Holden felt the sign should be lowered. Conmissioner Urrutia th�ought the color of the letters shr�uld be changed, as they would be lost against the gray buildirig. Action• It was moved by Camlissioner Holden, seconded by Cannissioner Urrutia, to approve the sign based on it bei.ng moved dawn on the building to align with the existing nlunbers. Applicant was cautioned on the use of silver letters on the gray building. Motion carried 5-0. B. PZ�limina�ry P1ail.S: 1. CASE NO.: PP 90-26 p�ppLICANp (p�i�ID A�S): RAYNNlOND PATSC�Q{ for ACACIA PARTNERS, 640 No. Tustin Avenue #103, Santa Ana, CA 92705 NAZ'tJRE OF PROJECP/APPROVAL SQ��: Preliminazy approval of revised elevations LOCATIO�i: Southwest corner of Fred Waring and Acacia ZONE: R-1 (Proposed O.P. ) 5 � �r,.r, `"�''` NILr][A'FS ARC,�LIT�CIUR�L REVIE�t �M�SSI�i JAN[TARY 8, 1991 Mr. Drell rioted that the main revision was to the color of the building and the continuation of the curved fascia along the back of the building. Landscapirig plan sY�wed trees added along the south side of the building. The plan riow conforms to city parking lot shade tree requirements. Mr. Drell asked the applicant about the decreased lawn area. Mr. Patscheck replied that the lawn was removed on the east end of the property, replacing it with ground cover. N�. Gregozy r�ted that the landscaping plans were extremely conceptual adding that the addition of trees have been addressed but could not move to the next step of the approval process without a more detailed landscapi.ng plan. Mr. Drell n�ted that the plans were sufficient until the applicant received appraval fran the planning connni.ssion and city council. Mr. Urrutia did not feel that there were many changes fr�► the original plan. He r�oted the minimal amount of space between the building and parking lot adding that the ccxmtission would like to see more trees and islands in the parking lot area. Nh�. Urrutia also felt that the architecture looked too jamned in and the metal roofs occasionally tacked on did not seem to have any definition. He thought a more desert contemporary look would be more appropriate for this location, and that the proposed building was something that would be found in an industrial park. Coimtission discussed preferred examples of other buildings along �ed Waring Drive. Ca►�nissioner Holden noted his concerns with the lack of horizontal relief. Chairman Gregory added that the consnission was looking for some articulation. Mr. Patscheck asked if the concern was with the building or the roof itself. Commissioner Urrutia replied that it was a combination of both. Mr. Drell noted that the refuse area sh�m did not comply with the city's requirements. He will give the information on the required trash enclosures to Mr. Patscheck. Chairman Gregory asked if sanething could be done to the roof line that would create sane undulations. He also asked about the possibility of roof mountirx� the equipnent. Mr. Patscheck replied that he would have to create a deeper setback on Acacia. Chairman Gregory suggested that the applicant address the items discussed for Architectural Review Comnission approval prior to going before planning ca�nission. 6 . '�✓ �rr`" NIIl�[tPF� ARQ-uTTf77CIURAL REVIEW aCrT�SSI�i JAN[IARY 8, 1991 Action• It was maved by Cannissioner Urrutia, seconded by Caranissioner McC,Yea, to continue the case directing the applicant to address the fol laaing conc;erns. These aa►unents to be fonaarded to the planning co�nission: 1) Restudy elevations as discussed with carmission in order to achieve more undulation on the �`red VJaring side of build.ing. 2) In order to accommodate the square footage needed, ca�ission w�ould not have a problem with a larger two- story building. 3) Undulation of roof line 4) Ca�anission would like to see scenething other than an industxial look for this location. 5) Trash enclosure area to meet city requirements. 6) Restudy area where balcony extends out aver the parking lot in relation to the tree wells on the landscaping plan at that location. 7) Mechanical equipnerit to be screened. Motion carried 5-0. V. ITIIKS ADDID TO A�IDA: 1. (�SE N0.• PP 90-29 APPLICANr (AI� ADDRFSS): TRIAD PACIFIC DEVELOPNIENT C70RP. for HOVLEY CORPORATE CENTRE, 74-923 Hovley Lane, Suite 130, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJEG�/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Conceptual approval of commercial project LOC'ATI�T: Northeast corner of Hovley Lane and Cook Street ZO�: G1 Mr. Drell reported that the applicant was claimi�,c� to use a special glass for the solar protection on the building. Conmissioner Urrutia rioted that co�anission would need to see the specifications on the glass as they had a building codne back to them, on the same street, requesting to add an awning because of the serious solar problem. The awning, therefore, was not integrated into the architecture of the building. The applicant noted that the glass was a heat mirrored 55 glass which would cut out the ultra violet rays. Conmissioner Urrutia noted that this glass would reduce the heat but vaould not reduce the glare. Chairnian Gregory asked about pulling the windaws in a bit or to provide sane type of overhangs. 7 ` � � NIIN[�FS ARQiITECI[lI2AL RE�T�T �NMISSI�i JAN[7ARY 8, 1991 Commissioner Urrutia requested that the applicant provide samething 3-d�mensional on the project. Mr. Drell reported that although there is a 25 foot height limitation, it was designed for buildings that are right on the street. He thought the applicant could change the roof line and justify it with its unique nature versus the buildings right on the street. Action: It was maved by Gamlissioner Urrutia, seconded by Co�tissioner Holden, to oontinue the case, directing the applicant to address the following: 1) Provide deeper averhangs 2) Color board to shaw an additional one or two colors for the buildings to avoid the look of one massive structure 3) Detailed elevations needed on all one-story buildings located at the front of the project 4) Cook Street elevations needed Nbtion carried 5-0. Mr. Orr asked about the left tzarn lane situation on Cook Street. Cannission noted that this would be handled by the public works depa�nt. 2. CASE 1�.: pppLlC� (AI�ID A�RF�S); pALM,S TO PINES CANVAS for BON APETIT, Pinyon Pine, Box 69, Nbuntain Center, CA 92361 NATURE OF PROJECP/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of retracting awning, entry awning and modesty panel along wrought iron fence Applicant requested approval of a 10'2" dark forest green awning with a 10" valance. 'Phe same green fabric will be placed behind the wrought iron fence around the patio. Co�issioner Urrutia thought the idea was good but would need to see haw the actual awning would look when extended. The applicant, Ernie Brooks, noted that the support azms w�ould fold back in when the awning rolled up and they would be stored under the cover. Co�nissioner Urrutia asked why a fixed awning was not bei.ng proposed. Mr. Brooks noted that the owner requested the retractable awning. Chai.nnan Gregory preferred a more permanent awning. 8 , , � �: NLf1VU�ES ARQiITF7CIURAL RE.UIE�T ��SSI�i JANt]ARY 8, 1991 Action• It was moved by Catmissioner Holden, seconded by Camnissioner VanVliet, to approve the entry awning as well as the insert of the forest green material along the wrought iron fence surrounding the outside patio. Ccnmission instructed applicant to resubmit retractable awning shaaing actual details stating that they would prefer a more pezmanent type awning. Motion carried 5-0. VI. The meeti.ng was adjourned at 2:35 p.m. ,., � �� _. , � � ST SMI ASSOCIATE PL�ANNEE2 SS/db 9