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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OOM IISSION
TUESDAY, JULY 9, 1991
I. CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
C nyni.ssion Members Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ron Gregory, Chairman X 12 1
Rick Holden X 12 1
Frank Urrutia X 10 3
Chris Van Vliet X 11 2
Wayne Connor, Alternate X 7 6
Staff Present: Phil Drell
Steve Smith
Jeff Winklepleck
Joe Gaugush
Daisy Garcia
Paul Shillcock
Donna Bitter
II. APPROVAL OF MCN[TrrES:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by C mnissioner
Connor, to approve the minutes of June 25, 1991 as amended. Motion
carried 3-0.
III. It was moved by Connor, seconded by Van
Vliet, to approve the followuig cases by minute motion. Motion carried
3-0.
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO.: PP 90-20
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): NELCON, INC., 78-060 Calle Estado, La
Quinta, CA 92253
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final landscape
plans
LOCATION: Northeast corner of Abronia Trail and Sunset Lane
ZONE: R-3
Commission continued final landscape plans, by minute motion,
directing staff to route revised plans through the public works
landscaping staff for continents.
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2. CASE NO.: TT 24287
APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): T.R.A. ARCHITECTS, 1900 E. Tahquitz
Canyon, Palm Springs, CA 92263
NATURE OF PROJEMAPPROVAL SCUM: Approval of revised final
landscape
LOCATION: Deep Canyon Road, north of Fred Waring Drive
ZONE: PR-5
Case was continued, by minute motion, as the revised landscape
plans were not received from the applicant.
3. CASE NO.: TT 24603
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): UP DEVELOPMENT CORP., 1925 Palomar Oaks
Way, Suite 203, Carlsbad, CA 92008
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGUr: South side of Hovley Lane,
330 feet east of Monterey
ZONE: PR-5
Case was continued, by minute motion, as the revised landscape
plans were not received from the applicant.
B. Miscellaneous Plans:
1. CASE NO.: 891 SF
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SAM PALERMO, 72-715 Skyward Way, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGRT; Approval of a 17' high single
family residence
LOCATION: 72-715 Skyward Way
ZONE: R-1, 20,000
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C. Added Items to Agenda:
1. CASE NO.. 92 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): EVA SLOAN c/o CRHO INC. ARCHITECTS for
OLIVE GARDEN RESTAURANT, 195 So. "C" Street, Tustin, CA 92681
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
architecture and landscape plans
LOCATICN: Painters Path north of Fred Waring Drive
ZCNE: PC-4
IV. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND A IESS): RON GREGORY for BROTHERS CONSTRUCI'ION-
JOINT VENTURE BUILDING, 73-960 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOMM Amendments to landscape
plan/reconsideration of stairway from parking lot to the park
LOCATICN: 73-710 Fred Waring Drive
ZONE: P
Paul Shillcock indicated that a recom endation came through the
Art-In-Public-Places Catmittee that a stairway be provided in the
retaining wall that surrounds the parking lot for the building
currently under construction. It was the intention that Art-In-
Public-Places would then run a path that would lead to a future
placement of a public art piece. When the stairway was designed
and the cost was investigated, they came up with a cost of
approximately $15, 000.00 to install the stairway. The
recommendation now was to ask that this stairway be eliminated, as
it did not serve the purpose that it was originally intended, and
that the Art-In-Public-Places Committee was not overly
enthusiastic about spending this money to continue the walkway on
up to the proposed future location.
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Mr. Shillcock added that there was also a potential tenant that
might go into the building that would require the building be
extended somewhat to the east. This would then place the stairway
behind the building, and it would not have direct access to the
parking lot.
commissioner Connor noted that he sits on the Art-In-Public-Places
Comittee and did not recall any conversation of the ccnumttee not
willing to pay for a path to the stairway. He noted that he would
need further clarification from the art committees, as he did not
recall anything discussed on deleting this connecting walkway.
Commissioner Connor asked when the applicant would know if the
tenant requesting the additional space would be confirming his
lease. Mr. Shillcock replied that a confirmation should be made
within two or three weeks. Commissioner Connor asked that this
item be continued until the tenant situation is confirmed.
Mr. Drell added that there now was questions on the landscape plan
inside the courtyard. He noted that the split-face, concrete
planters were to be tables for every other planter. Chairman
Gregory noted that these planters were designed by the artist.
The applicant was now asking to turn all the planters into
planters, not tables or benches. Mr. Drell noted that the tables,
as designed, did not function as tables. Mr. Drell suggested that
all the planters be removed and flush with the ground, and install
actual seats that people could sit on comfortably. Commissioner
Connor felt that the planters should be left the way they are and
to simply plant them. He also felt that raised planters would be
better than flush planters. Mr. Drell noted that the applicant
was also asking that the walls to the planters be lowered to a
maximum of 18". Commissioner Connor agreed to this change.
Action:
Commission continued the request for deletion of the proposed
stairway until clarification is made with the Art-In-Public-Places
Committee. Commission agreed with recommendation to lower the
planter walls to 18" and placing a cap on top of the planters to
make them a more functional seat.
2. CASE NO.. 1987 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): TRISTAR ELECTRICAL DISPLAY for ARBY`S,
7742 Densmore Avenue, Van Nuys, CA 91406
NATURE OF PROJECP/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage on existing parapet and on front wall
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LOCATION: 72-795 Highway 111, Suite G
ZONE: PC-3 (S.P. )
Jeff winklepleck noted that the applicant will be requesting an
exception to the sign code for the roof sign as indicated on the
plan. Commissioner Connor felt that the two wall signs were
redundant in the proposed location. Steve Smith indicated that
the sign code had changed in the last 18 months that identifies or
defines signs on parapets as being roof signs, and over time the
goal is that they will disappear. The applicant, Howard Levin,
noted that he was aware of the conmission's feelings on the roof
mounted sign, but felt there was no visibility from the parking
lot without the sign on the roof. Chairman Gregory informed the
applicant that comLission did not have the authority to approve
the roof sign, but personally did not have any problem with it.
Mr. Levin indicated that the hat symbol was the Arby's trademark.
Chairman Gregory had no problem with one of the hat signs, but not
two of them. Commissioner Connor was concerned with the upper
(roof) sign, noting that the intent of the code was to eventually
eliminate these roof signs and cleaning up the architecture. He
did; however, realize the identity problem at this location.
Commissioner Van Vliet did not have a problem with the upper sign,
as long as it is not any taller than the adjacent Penguin's sign.
He also felt that there should only be one hat sign, and it should
be reduced in size.
Action:
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Cc missioner Van
Met, to make a recommendation to the appropriate authority that
Arby's be allowed to have the fascia mounted signage as proposed,
the right most wall mounted sign be installed as proposed, and the
red color be changed to a rust or burgundy color. Color to be
presented to staff for final approval. Motion carried 2-1,
Commissioner Connor voting No.
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO.: CUP 91-11
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MAPLE LEAF PLUMBING, HEATING & AIR
CONDITIONING, INC., Post Office Box 3653, Palm Desert, CA 92261
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of
architecture only for remodel
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LOCATION: 44-865 Santa Ynez
ZONE: R-3
Commissioner Van Vliet questioned the upper roof structure, asking
if anything could be done to try to blend in with the adjacent
architecture. He added that the parapet should continue around
the building. Chairman Gregory noted that commission usually
requires a planter along the parking area.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Ccommissioner
Connor, to continue the plans directing the applicant to address
the following:
1) Upper roof structure to be more compatible with adjacent
architecture.
2) Parapet to be continued around remainder of building.
3) Sidewalk on west side to be replaced with a planter and curb.
Motion carried 3-0.
2. CASE NO.: TT 25161
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): WESTINGHOUSE DESERT CCMMUNITIES, INC.,
73-101 Highway 111, Suite 2, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of
architectural and landscape plans for clubhouse at Bighorn Golf
Club
LOCATION: Lot 48, Tract 25161
The applicants, Mr. George Auld and Mr. Mark Felp, presented land
use summary showing the site of the Westinghouse clubhouse. Mr.
Felp also presented color sample board on material to be used.
Chairman Gregory felt that it was a very attractive building, and
thought it would look very attractive from Highway 74. He asked
if all the tennis courts are to be illuminated. Mr. Auld
indicated that at this point, the lights are planned.
Commissioner Van Vliet's only comment was that the fireplace flues
blend in with the roof structure. Commissioner Connor liked the
color tones presented; however, asked if the applicant anticipated
any glare off the roof during the first year from Highway 74. Mr.
Auld noted that they will probably chemically treat the roof
immediately to achieve a uniform medium brown color.
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner
Connor, to grant preliminary approval of the architectural plans
only for the club house. Landscaping plans to be submitted for
approval. Notion carried 3-0.
3. CASE NO.: PP 91-7
APPLICANT (AMID ADDRESS): ECONO LUBE 'N' TUNE, INC., 4911 Birch
Street, Newport Beach, CA 92660
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of
architectural, landscape plans and signage for an auto service
facility
LOCATION: La Posada Center, Northeast corner of Fred Waring
Drive and Highway 111
ZONE: P.C. (3)
Jeff Winklepleck noted that the proposed building would be located
on the remaining pad near Toys R Us on Fred Waring Drive. Staff
noted their concerns with the visual effect of the automotive bays
on Fred Waring Drive. They also felt that the requested signage
was too excessive. They noted that the free standing sign to the
left of the driveway would not be allowed as there is an existing
monument sign on the site for their signage. Chairman Gregory
felt that the Fred Waring elevations were too weak. Commissioner
Connor stated his concerns with the garages opening along Fred
Waring Drive, and felt it would be better to turn the bays into
the parking lot area. The applicant, Mr. Fred Vecta, noted that
they were depending on the bays being visual for quick service.
Chairman Gregory felt that some heavy planting of trees was needed
to screen the bays.
Mr. Smith noted that the minimum setback from the street at this
location was 32 feet, and the plans presented show a 20 foot
setback. Commissioner Van Vliet asked about the side yard
setback, and Mr. Smith did not feel there was a problem with the
setback along the wash. Chairman Gregory asked Mr. Vecta if the
building could be pulled back 12 feet. Mr. Vecta indicated that
he would have to restudy this. Chairman Gregory noted that if the
building could work with a 32 foot setback, the applicant would
have to keep in mind the signage allowed at this location.
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Action:
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Connor,
to continue the plans directing the applicant to address the
following concerns:
1) Amount of proposed signage would not be allowed, noting that
a monument sign already exists on Highway 111 side of
property for this building pad. Staff noted previous
concerns from the adjacent residents on signage for proposed
project on the northwest corner of Fred Waring and Highway
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2) Fred Waring Drive elevations are too weak. Landscaping would
need to be beefed up along this side.
3) Camtission concerned with garages opening along Fred Waring
Drive. They suggested either turning the bays into the
parking lot or heavy planting of trees to screen the bays.
4) Minimum setback from the street is 32 feet. Proposed plan
shows setback of only 20 feet.
Notion carried 3-0
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The meeting adjourned at 2:00 p.m.
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