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PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION
OCTOBER 8, 1991
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I. CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 12:25 p.m.
Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ron Gregory, Chairman X 17 2
Rick Holden X 17 2
Frank Urrutia X 15 4
Chris Van Vliet X 16 3
Kirby Warner X 2 0
Wayne Connor, Alternate X 12 7
Staff Present: Phil Drell
Steve Smith
Steve Buchanan
Daisy Garcia
Donna Bitter
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van
Vliet, to approve the minutes of the September 24, 1991 meeting as
submitted. Motion carried 4-0-1, Commissioner Connor abstaining.
III. It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor,
to approve the following cases by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0.
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO.: 2031 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for SUZANNE M,
Pinyon Pines, Box 69, Mountain Center, CA 92361
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of illuminated
awning with signage
LOCATION: 73-100 E1 Paseo, Suite 4
ZONE: C-1 S.P.
The awning was approved, by minute motion, with the condition that
the awning only extend to the same length and height of the
adjoining awning.
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2. CASE NO.: PP 90-13
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DSL SERVICE CO. , 3501 Jamboree Road,
Suite 5000, North Tower, Newport Beach, CA 92658-6030
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of sign program
LOCATION: Fred Waring Drive and Highway III
ZONE: P.C. (3) S.P.
Commission continued the request for signage approval at the
applicants request.
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MOSER ASSOCIATES for DAVIS RESIDENCE,
75355 Santa Fe Trail , Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 17 foot height on
single family home
LOCATION: 47295 Rose Sage Court
ZONE: R-1 , 12,000
Commission approved the height as submitted subject to the
following conditions:
1) Applicant to receive the adjacent neighbors approval in
writing.
2) Addition of two canopy trees, one each at the front of the
property.
3) Placement of some form of paving that would allow for
landscaping in front of the recreational vehicle garage, i .e.
grass crete pavers.
2. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RAM DEVELOPMENT & CONSTRUCTION CO. ,
Post Office Box 2608, Palm Desert, CA 92261
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 17 foot height on
single family house
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LOCATION: 38-741 Desert Mirage Drive
IV. CASES:
A. Final Orawings:
1. CASE NO.: 2031 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SIGNS BY MEL for MUSICIANS OUTLET, 945
Boardwalk, Suite B, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of internally
illuminated cabinet sign
LOCATION: 44-850 San Pablo
Steve Smith reported that the applicant was requesting that the
south wall sign on the fascia be changed to an illuminated sign.
Commissioner Urrutia asked about the status of the small corner
business "Gourmet Foods". Mr. Smith indicated that the approval
would be conditioned that existing signage at this location be
removed. Commissioner Urrutia was concerned with the size of the
sign on the south wall , as it filled the entire fascia.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Warner, seconded by Commissioner
Urrutia, to approve the signage subject to painting both cans to
match the existing wall color. Motion carried 4-0-1 , Commissioner
Holden abstaining.
2. CASE NO.: 368 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): STUDIO FIVE ARCHITECTS & DESIGN for
LUCKY STORES, 31511-A Camino Capistrano, San Juan Capistrano, CA
92675
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of landscaping plan
for outdoor storage area
LOCATION: E1 Paseo and Lupine Avenue
ZONE: C-1 S.P.
Steve Smith noted that the proposed revised landscaping plan was
along Lupine Avenue at the driveway to the Lucky store.
Commission approved the architectural plans only on August 13th
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requesting that the landscaping plan be restudied and submitted
for approval .
Commissioner Connor did not see the need for the lawn area and
felt the landscaping needed to be more substantial . He felt the
grass area should be replaced with a drought tolerant plan.
Commissioner Urrutia did not see a problem with the background
shrubs, however was concerned with the area between the shrubs and
the street. He felt that by eliminating the existing lawn area
the applicant could be more creative with the landscaping.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner
Connor, to continue the landscaping plan to allow the applicant to
restudy the plan with regards to the comments made by commission
on eliminating the existing lawn area. Motion carried 5-0.
3. CASE NO.: PP 89-3
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RONALD GREGORY ASSOCIATES, INC. for EL
PASEO FINANCIAL CENTER/L.G. 'S STEAKHOUSE, 74-020 Alessandro, Suite
E, Palm Desert, CA 92260
MATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final landscape
plans for L.G.'s Steakhouse
LOCATION: El Paseo Financial Center/Southeast corner of El Paseo
and Highway III
ZONE: C-1 S.P.
Staff reported that Eric Johnson was concerned with the massive
amount of material being proposed.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner
Urrutia, to approve the final landscape plan as submitted. Motion
carried 5-0.
4. CASE NO.: CUP 87-9
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PAPA DAN'S PIZZA AND PASTA, 73-131
Country Club Drive, Building C-9, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised plans for
remodel of front patio area
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LOCATION: 73-131 Country Club Drive, Building C-9
ZONE: P.C.
Steve Smith reported that he and Steve Buchanan went to the
proposed site and measured the existing parking spaces noting that
the spaces on the north side of the restaurant were 22' long at an
angle. He noted that large cars would overhang into the sidewalk
as much as 3 feet. Mr. Smith felt that it could be conceivable to
place the bumpers in the parking spaces, however the cars would
then extend out into this busy traffic area. He added that there
would be enough room on the east side of the business for the
requested additional seating as the parking spaces were 22' long
straight on.
Mr. Smith suggested that the wall be placed on the east side of
the restaurant, 30" back from the curb with added landscaping,
leaving the two existing trees and eliminating the tables in front
of the restaurant. Commissioner Warner felt that without the use
of bumpers, the cars would overhang onto the landscaping and
eventually destroy it.
The applicant, Dan Facela, described the proposed lattice work
explaining that one of the existing trees would need to be removed
In order to place this lattice. The lattice would be added in
order to install a mist system. He also felt that the existing
tree was blocking his signage. Commissioner Warner felt that this
tree did not impact the view of the restaurant signage.
Commissioner Warner felt that both existing trees should remain by
cutting the lattice around the one tree.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Warner, seconded by Commissioner Van
Vliet, to grant preliminary approval of the plans for remodel
based on the following conditions:
1) Wall along sidewalk on north side of business be eliminated.
2) Bumper curbs on the east side of business placed at the 18'
level .
3) Keep the two existing trees, or replace one of them at
another location.
4) Wall on east side of business moved back a total of 30" from
the curb.
5) Provide detailed landscaping plan.
Motion carried 5-0.
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B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO.: PP 91-9
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AVIS RENT-A-CAR, 3400 Tahquitz Canyon
Way, Palm Springs, CA 92262
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of plans
for a rental car facility (office, open storage and car wash)
LOCATION: 74-881 Hovley Lane
ZONE: S. I .
Steve Smith noted the extensive landscaping comments from Eric
Johnson on the proposed plan. Commissioner Urrutia discussed with
the applicant, Dick Crane, how he would like to see the south
elevation changed to reflect the north elevation. He also noted
that he would like to see perimeter trees placed around the lot.
Mr. Crane explained how the adjacent building was against the east
side wall and therefore the landscaping requested by Commissioner
Urrutia would not be seen. Commissioner Van Vliet asked about the
mechanical equipment. Mr. Crane replied that all the air
conditioning mechanical equipment would be placed behind the wall ,
which is not open to the public. Commissioner Urrutia noted the
mechanical platform on the roof would not work as proposed. He
stated that the parapet was not high enough to cover it. Mr.
Crane saw no problem with deleting this pad or raising the
parapet.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner
Urrutia, to grant preliminary approval of the plans for the rental
car facility with the following conditions:
1) South elevation changed to reflect the north elevation as
discussed with Mr. Crane.
2) Upper part of the parapets on both the north and south
elevations curved to match the lower part.
3) Restudy trash enclosure to comply with city standards.
4) Building color changed to an off-white or ivory.
5) Restudy landscaping plan as noted by Eric Johnson.
6) Add planter in front of building as discussed.
7) Extend end parking space to a minimum of 11 feet in width.
Motion carried 5-0.
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C. Miscellaneous Cases:
1. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JUNE HANE-MULLENEUX for BON APPETIT,
Post Office Box 1797, Palm Desert, CA 92261
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of green tivlli
lights on edge of existing roof tile
LOCATION: 73-640 E1 Paseo
ZONE: C-1
Steve Smith presented the plans and photographs showing the
placement of the proposed green tivlli lights. Ms. Hane-Mulleneux
explained how the lights would be placed directly under the roof
line. Commission discussed the color of the proposed lights.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner
Warner, to approve the lights in white subject to the lights not
flashing. Motion carried 5-0.
The following items were added to the agenda by a unanimous vote:
1. CASE NO. : 2033 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MICKEY'S, 73-655 E1 Paseo, Unit G, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
NATURE Of PROJECT APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
Identification signage
LOCATION: 73-655 El Paseo, Unit
ZONE:
Mr. Smith reported that the request was for 12" gold face foam
letters matching the adjoining business.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner
Warner, to approve the requested signage as submitted. Motion
carried 5-0.
Commissioner Holden left meeting at 2:00 p.m.
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2. CASE NO.: VAR 91-3
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): FOXX DEVELOPMENT CORP. for ESCADA, 74-
818 Velie Way, Suite 12, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised final
working drawings for storefront remodel
LOCATION: 73-811 El Paseo
ZONE: C-1
The applicant, Jim Foxx, presented the revised final working
drawings. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the approval should be
based on the city receiving a hold harmless agreement which would
be executed with the encroachment permit.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van
Vliet, to approve the revised plans subject to the city receiving
a hold harmless agreement executed with the encroachment permit
and the following conditions:
1) Rear awning not approved with this approval .
2) Applicant to provide color board and detailed landscaping
plan.
Motion carried 4-0-1, Commissioner Holden abstaining.
3. CASE NO.: 1990 SA-1
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY for THE GATHERING
PLACE, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised business
identification signage
LOCATION: 73-405 Highway III
Steve Smith presented the revised signage plans reading "The
Gathering Place Bible Bookstore". Commissioner Holden felt that
the darker blue would be the better color. Commissioner Urrutia
asked if the sign would be illuminated. Mr. Smith replied that it
would be illuminated in the existing can sign. Commissioner
Urrutia felt that the blue color would be very loud.
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner
Urrutia, to approve the revised signage with the following
conditions:
1) Maximum letter height at 12".
2) Background changed to ivory in color.
3) Approved red with the proposed darker blue color.
Motion carried 4-0.
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Commissioner Urrutia asked about the new Brothers building now under
construction and questioned why the project was not reviewed by the
commission. He was told by Councilmember Crites that all city projects
were to be reviewed by commission. He felt that in order to consistent
he assumed that the landscaping plan would be brought before
commission. Mr. Smith noted that the project was not being processed
through the planning department, but rather by the economic development
department. Commissioner Urrutia felt that all the new buildings being
added to the civic center should also be brought before commission,
i .e. restrooms, etc.
Commissioner Urrutia asked what the process was which allowed College
of the Desert to create the recently established oiled parking lots.
Staff responded that the city did not review, or approve, the parking
lots in question.
VI. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 2:20 p.m.
STEVE SMITH
ASSOCIATE PLANNER
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