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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-08-11 I } MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 11, 1992 I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12: 15 P.m. Commission Members Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Gregory, Chairman X 11 3 Rick Holden X 14 0 Frank Urrutia X 12 2 Chris VanVliet X 13 1 Wayne Connor, Alternate X 9 5 Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith Jeff Winklepleck Steve Buchanan Donna Bitter II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the minutes of the July 28, 1992 meeting as amended. Motion carried 3-0. III. It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the following cases by minute motion. Motion carried 3-0. A. Final Drawings: 1 . CASE NO.: 384 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): WAYNE SHARP for BON APPETIT RESTAURANT , 73-920 Grapevine Street, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of patio extension LOCATION: 73-340 El Paseo ZONE: C-- 1 S.P. The applicant, Mr. Wayne Sharp, requested approval of plans to extend the existing outdoor seating area to the property line and lengthening the green awning to be uniform with proposed patio expansion. Mr. Drell noted that the awning would be flush with the top of the fascia and indicated that the existing green material would remain inside the wrought iron surrounding the patio area. Mr. Sharp indicated that the awning would be 8 feet from the sidewalk. 14.+ MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 11, 1992 Commissioner Urrutia noted that the applicant was trying to create the ambience of an outdoor cafe; however felt the proposed plan did not feel complete yet. He felt that some introduction of plant material or pots would enhance the patio area. The applicant discussed how he had planned to install flower baskets on top of the wrought iron fencing with plants hanging over the railing around the entire patio area. Commission approved patio extension subject to staff approval of landscape concept and fencing. B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO. : TT 26123 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SUNRISE DESERT PARTNERS for INDIAN RIDGE COUNTRY CLUB, 42-600 Cook Street, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of sports club, grille pavilion, starter pavailion and temporary golf clubhouse LOCATION: Country Club Drive between 42nd Avenue, El Dorado and Oasis Country Club ZONE: PR-5 Steve Smith presented site plans for the above mentioned buildings and colored elevations on the sports facility noting that the sports facility was a continuation of the architecture of the overall project. Steve Buchanan noted that plans had not been submitted for the sports facility with the temporary golf clubhouse. Commission granted preliminary approval to the grille pavilion, starter pavilion and croquet pavilion. Commission noted that they could not approve the temporary golf clubhouse and the sports club as the plans were not. submitted. 2. CASE NO. : 383 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOSEPH BRANDT, 14 Mt. Holyoke, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of remodel plans LOCATION: 77-030 El Paseo 2 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 11, 1992 ZONE: Phil Drell reported that the applicant was requesting approval to eliminate the wood diagonal siding throughout the remainder of the center. All of the existing buildings would be stucco to match the new building being constructed. Stucco would be ivory with a teal trim. The fascia would still be teal painted wood with anodized windows. Chairman Gregory felt that overall the teal would be too intense while Commissioner Holden noted that the proposed teal colored wood would not be compatible next to the existing red tile roof. Chairman Gregory felt that the applicant should submit an actual color pallette with Commissioner Holden noting that a lighter color should be proposed in place of the proposed bright teal color. Commission approved the plans, including the french doors and windows, with the following conditions: 1 ) Stucco changed to La Habra No. 48; 2) Applicant to return for approval of fascia color and lighting details. The following item was added to the agenda, and approved by minute motion, by a unanimous vote: 1. CASE NO.: 3088 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for BON APPETIT RESTAURANT, 69 Pinyon Pines, Mountain Center, CA 92561 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of canvas with signage LOCATION: 73-040 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 S.P. Commission approved the awning with the following conditions: 1 ) Reduce number of "Bon Appetit" signs to two locations on awning; 2) Applicant to provide detailed structural Plan for final approval . 3 `0W MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 11, 1992 IV. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO.: 3075 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN CO. for HOLIDAY INN, 46- 120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised business identification signage LOCATION: 74-675 Highway III ZONE: PC-4 The applicant, Jim Engle, presented the revised plans for the proposed signage. Steve Smith noted his concerns with the ordinance allowing for that large of a sign at its proposed location. Phil Drell noted that the allowable signage would have to be split between the wall sign and the monument sign. Commissioner Holden felt that it was difficult to approve the signage without some type of elevation plan showing exactly where the signage would be placed noting that the wall sign could not extend over the allowable 20 height limit. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to grant conceptual approval to the business signs directing the applicant to address the following: 1 ) Provide detailed plan showing actual sizes; 2) Provide exterior elevations showing where signs would be placed; 3) Show how much light would be shown through on the free standing sign; 4) Wall mounted sign at a maximum height of 20 feet. Motion carried 3-0. 2. CASE NO. : 3077 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): YOUNG ELECTRIC CO. for TANPOPO, 1413 E. Philadelphia Street, Ontario, CA 91761 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 11, 1992 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised business identification signage LOCATION: 72-221 Highway III , Suite A-9-13 ZONE: P.C. -- 4 Jeff Winklepleck reported that commission was concerned with the size of the proposed signage. The revised signage now showed two menu signs (Sushi and Tempura) in ivory with pale red neon. Commissioner Holden was not concerned with the color of the neon; however, felt the lettering for Sushi and Tempura needed to be reduced. Chairman Gregory asked how the submittal conformed to the maximum square footage allowed at this location and Mr. Drell indicated that the applicant was allowed up to 50 square feet of signage. He noted that the proposed signage was approximately 33 square feet. Commissioner Urrutia was also concerned with the size of the letters. Commissioner Holden was concerned with both the color of the neon and the size of the letters. Chairman Gregory suggested leaving the name "Tampopo" in neon, changing the menu signs to smaller letters that would not be neon. The applicant, Mr. John Heemstra, felt that 11" letters would be much to small for this building sign. Commissioner Urrutia agreed with Chairman Gregory in feeling that the "Tampopo" sign should be illuminated with the menu signage non-illuminated. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the signage subject to the following conditions: 1 ) Letters to be white halo lit; 2) Letter face to be bronze in color; 3) Size of letters approved as proposed; 4) Maximum intensity of 4500. Motion carried 3-0. 0. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO. : PP 92-6 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : COOK PARTNERS LIMITED PARTNERSHIP, 110 West. Las Lunas Drive, Suite B, San Gabriel , CA 91776 5 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 11, 1992 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of landscape and architectural plans for district commercial center LOCATION: Northwest corner of Country Club and Cook Street ZONE: PD-2 and PR-10 Project Coordinator, Ken Feinstra, outlined the proposed project noting that the major section of the center would be in the back of the project with Ralphs and Payless as the major tenants. The main entry would be between Desert Springs Road and Cook Street. He reported that they were trying to develop this project in phases, as they are still working on tenants for portions of the center. Mr. Feinstra noted that the developer is still working on a proposed service station and antique car center in this center. He intends on submiting elevations for approval of the pads along Country Club and for the gas station at a later date. Mr. Drell indicated that the service station would be part of the precise plan approval , and therefore the request would have be amended once a specific design is completed. Ms. Susan Quan discussed the concept of the openess at the corners with plaza treatments noting their intentions of trying to bring pedestrians into the center from the Marriott Desert Springs directly across the street . She discussed the proposed architectual features and enhancements along the sidewalk in front of the major tenants. Mr. Kevin Mequet showed how they were trying to break up the shop elevations. Commissioner Holden felt that the plazas and country club effect had a lot going for it. but seemed that the major tenants showed a lot less design. He specifically noted that there was nothing in front of Ralphs in the way of a shade structure or interest for this major tenant compared to the rest of the center. He felt it was unfortunate that the entry to the main structure was so plain. Mr. Mequet noted that they have been working with Ralphs on this issue and they have some constraints and criteria that are very important to them. They perceive the visibility into their stores as being paramount. Mr. Carver felt the commissions concern with the plain entry to Ralphs and Payless was a conciencious concern, and will re-study this issue. Chairman Gregory asked about the signage for Ralphs and Payless and felt that it did not fit in with the characther and style of the remaining center. Commissioner Urrutia agreed in that the character of the Ralphs signage did not fit with the color variations of the center, but thought the graphics of the other signage fit more with the character of the architecture. 6 NOW MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 11, 1992 Commissioner Urrutia added that he felt the boldness of the Ralphs building seemed out of character with what was being done with the remainder of the center and had mixed feelings with the use of angles. Mr. Mequet replied that they were trying to open up the view of the center some by use of the angles. Commissioner Holden felt that the center looses the feeling of the plaza look on the actual cornea of Country Club and Cook Street, but noted that it did work nicely on the end across from the Marriott. Mr. Feinstra noted that this particular corner was not designed as yet, and that the leasing would determine how this corner would be designed. Commissioner Holden felt the project was very nice overall . Commissioner Urrutia appreciated the source boards provided, however, was concerned that these examples would be incorporated in the design of the center. Steve Smith discussed parking lot shade structures and Commissioner Holden noted that he would prefer a majority of pedestrian shade than parking lot shade structures. Action?_ It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to grant conceptual approval to the plans subject to their concerns rioted above. Motion carried 3-0. 2. CASE NO.: PP 92-7 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : NOGLE ONUFER ASSOCIATES for COACHELLA VALLEY WATER DISTRICT, 2398 San Diego Avenue, San Diego, CA 92110 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of satellite offices, service station, and warehouse LOCATION: Northeast corner of water reclamation plan property- Hovley Lane east of Cook Street ZONE: P The applicant, Gary Nogle, explained how Palm Desert was at the center of their service area and how the C.V.W.D. was now planning on moving their service facility from Coachella to Palm Desert, adjacent to their waste treatment plant off Cook Street. Mr. Nogle outlined the proposed plans noting that the project is planned in two phases with the first phase being 33,000 square feet and the final project consisting of approximately 90,000 square feet. He outlined how the service area would be well removed from the public right-of--way. 7 %%W ''errâ–º MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 11, 1992 Mr. Gregory discussed the concerns noted by Commissioner Connor noting that the C.V.W.D. would like to retain the mature existing tamarack trees. He added that the entire project would be irrigated with a drip system and the plant material chosen for the demonstration area would consist of desert climate plants showing people which plants work well in our desert climate with minimal water. Commissioner Connor suggested under story planting along the buildings and Mr. Gregory felt this could be added. Commissioner Holden agreed with the C.V.W.D. in leaving the existing tamarack trees. Commissioner Urrutia discussed his concerns with the entry noting that it seemed to get lost in the project. He suggested eliminating some of the parking spaces in front of the entry and adding some type of pavers to show the actual entry. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to grant preliminary approval to the plans subject to the deletion of 3 or 4 parking spaces at the entry, providing for enhanced pavement in this area. Motion carried 2-0-1 , Chairman Gregory abstaining. 3. CASE NO. : PP 92-5 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : MANSUR-WILMOT PARTNERS for DESERT CROSSING, 4530 Regents Court, Westlake Village, CA 91361 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Report on updated revisions LOCATION: Southeast corner of Fred Waring Drive and Highway III ZONE: PC-3 Mr. Drell noted that the applicant was before the commission to update them on the latest revisions. Mr. Ned Wilmot discussed the berming along Highway III and the sidewalk areas allowing for pedestrian seating areas. Commissioner Urrutia noted that when this commission originally reviewed the plans for this center they found the presentation acceptable. Mr. Drell noted that he felt the city council was concerned with the tenant uses. Commissioner Urrutia found the architecture to be acceptable. Commissioner Holden discussed his concerns with the lack of detail on the proposed pavilion entries. H MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 11, 1992 Commissioner Urrutia felt that the round columns seemed to be foreign to the remainder of the center. Mr. Wilmot replied that the columns were a real contrast to the building and that is what he was trying to create. Commissioner Urrutia added that the columns d i d not t i e into the buildings and appeared to be added on. He suggested using the same material on the columns as used in others areas of the center. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the colors of the buildings were very important. Commission thanked Mr. Wilmot for his update and presentation. V. ADJOURNMENT: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to adjourn the meeting at 2:50 p.m. Motion carried 3-0. QE SMITH ASSOCIATE PLANNER S S/db 9