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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
DECEMBER 8, 1992
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I . CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 12 : 15 p.m.
Commissioners Present Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Rick Holden X 5 0
Frank Urrutia X 4 1
Chris Van Vliet X 5 0
Wayne Connor X 5 0
Richard O'Donnell X 4 1
Ronald Gregory X 4 1
Staff Present: Steve Smith
Jeff Winklepleck
Steve Buchanan
Donna Bitter
II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner
Gregory, to approve the minutes of the November 23, 1992
meeting as amended. Motion carried 4-0-1, Commissioner
O'Donnell Abstaining.
III . It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by
Commissioner Holden, to approve the following cases by minute
motion. Motion carried 5-0.
A. Final Drawings :
1 . CASE NO. : 4052 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SEAN ABAII for EL PASEO
COLLECTION, 73-190 El Paseo, Suite 3, Palm Desert, CA
92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of sign
location for buildings A and B
LOCATION: Corner of El Paseo, Highway 74- and Ocotillo
ZONE: C-1 S.P.
The applicant, Sean Abaii, presented photographs of both
buildings showing the proposed signage. Chairman Gregory
questioned the location of the building addresses . Mr.
Abaii noted that they would be placed below the actual
signage. Commission approved the signage for buildings
A and B as submitted.
2 . CASE NO. : 376 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : A & S ENGINEERING for TEXACO,
207 W. Alameda Avenue, Suite 202 , Burbank, CA 91502
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NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of remodel
plans for existing service station
Commission felt that the existing service station looked
better than the proposed remodel plans as it looked like
the alterations were just tacked onto the building.
Commission directed the applicant to provide a revised
plan which would look more like it belongs in the desert.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by
Commissioner Connor, to deny the remodel plans as they
felt the existing station looked better than the proposed
remodel plans . Commission felt the remodel plans lacked
design and directed the applicant to examine the
remodeled Texaco station in Palm Springs, noting that it
was more of what the commission was looking for in a
remodel design. Motion carried 5-0 .
3 . CASE NO. : CUP 92-11
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SONTAG & NOVASCONE, INC. for
LOUISE ' S PANTRY, 124 So. Palm Canyon Drive, Palm Springs,
CA 92262
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final
working drawings for patio enclosure
LOCATION: 111 Town Center Way, Suite A
ZONE: P.C. ( 3) S .P.
Commission continued the request as the applicant was not
present with final plans .
4 . CASE NO. : 4060 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMAGE MEDIA GROUP for FIRST
INTERSTATE BANK, 1912 Augusta Court, Ontario, CA 91761
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage
LOCATION: 72-811 Highway 111
ZONE: P.C. ( 3) S.P.
Commission continued the request as the applicant was not
present with additional information requested by staff .
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B. Miscellaneous Cases :
1 . CASE NO. : 329 MF
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : KELVIE KING, 74-126 Chicory
Street, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of
Certificate of Conformance
LOCATION: 45-898/45-902 Lantana
ZONE: R-1
Staff reported that this was an existing duplex that pre-
dates the incorporation of the city noting that it was
city policy to allow the property owner to go before the
commission requesting a Certificate of Conformance if the
property was maintained at the current city' s landscaping
standards . This would allow the property owner to keep
the duplex, as it exists, in the current R-1 zone.
Commissioner Gregory felt the duplex did not conform to
present city landscaping standards . The property owner,
Mr. King, replied that he was before the commission
requesting approval of the Certificate of Conformance in
order to get the financing needed to upgrade the
property. Commissioner Gregory suggested that the
property owner seek professional services to assist him
in preparing an acceptable landscape plan.
Commission continued the request directing the applicant
to provide an adequate landscape plan as they felt it did
not conform to present city standards .
2 . CASE NO. : PP 92-6
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN CO. for CARVER
COMPANIES, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Review and comments
on proposed monument and center identification signs
LOCATION: Northwest corner of Country Club Drive and
Cook Street
ZONE: PD-2 and PR-10
Commission continued the case at the applicant ' s request.
Staff noted that Commissioner Urrutia felt the proposed
signage lacked imagination.
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IV. CASES:
A. Final Drawings :
1 . CASE NO. : CUP 92-10
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : CHARLES L. MARTIN for REDONDO
DONS, 40-840 Thunderbird Road, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of monument
sign
LOCATION: 72-291 Highway 111
ZONE: C-1
Steve Smith presented colored rendering of proposed
signage as well as the site plan. He indicated that a
council member had already approached staff with their
concerns on the proposed signage.
Mr. Charles Martin presented the proposed landscape plan
indicating that the applicant was again requesting
approval of the original building colors instead of the
cool colors requested by commission.
Commissioner Holden noted that the plan shows the patio
addition at 32 feet from the sidewalk and he did not feel
this was correct. He added that the four foot berm
created a look that made the patio look closer to the
street.
Mr. Smith noted that the city limits the menu items to
two with a maximum of three colors . Commissioner Gregory
noted that the proposed sign would have to be toned down.
Commissioner Gregory questioned the location of the
signage as it relates to the city' s setback requirements .
Mr. Smith reported that the proposed location was not in
the right-of-way and noted that typically the city asks
for the signage to be five feet back from the property
line. Commissioner Gregory felt that the corner should
be left open as much as possible. Mr. Martin noted that
the applicant needed to get the location of the signage
approved as soon as possible and proposed that it be
moved north approximately eight feet. He suggested that
he paint various color samples along the fascia within
the next week so that commission can view the proposed
colors of the building for approval at the next meeting.
Commissioner Holden noted that an accurate landscape plan
was needed showing actual plant material and their
locations . Commissioner Connor discussed the maintenance
problems with the lawn area coming right up to the patio
glass .
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by
Commissioner Holden, to continue the request to the
December 22nd meeting, directing the applicant to address
the following:
1 ) Provide accurate and detailed site plan with actual
landscaping design. Commission requested a more
lush landscape plan and outlined the maintenance
problems on the proposed plan;
2 ) Monument sign colors to be more subdue.
Motion carried 4-0 .
2 . CASE NO. : 4025 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN CO. for FUGATE
ENTERPRISE/PIZZA HUT, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA
92201
NATURE OF PROJECT APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of monument
sign
LOCATION: 72-310 Highway 111
ZONE: P.C. ( 3) S.P.
The applicant, Jim Engle, presented pictures of the
signage as well as the building noting that the proposed
location of the monument sign had been approved by the
public works department.
Commissioners Gregory and Van Vliet felt the additional
monument sign location was acceptable as it would sit so
far back from the street. Mr. Engle reported that the
overall height of the sign was 7 ' 3" and Mr. Smith noted
the city' s height limit on signs was 6 feet.
Commissioner Holden would rather see a three title
monument sign for the center and also felt a better
location for the sign would be at the driveway. He felt
that one monument sign at the entry to the center was all
that was necessary.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Gregory, seconded by
Commissioner Van Vliet, to recommend approval of sign
option No. 2, deleting the hat logo, subject to the
monument sign not exceeding 6 feet in height. Commission
also recommended approval of variance. Motion carried 4-
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V. The following case was added to the agenda by a unanimous
vote:
1 . CASE NO. : 4045 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LUMINOUS NEON LIGHTING for
BAGEL BAKERY AND DELI, Post Office Box 2066 , Bell
Gardens, CA 90201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage
LOCATION: 73-155 Highway 11
ZONE: C-1 S.P.
The applicant presented pictures of the building showing
the location of the proposed signage.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by
Commissioner Connor, to approve the signage as submitted.
Motion carried 4-0 .
VI . MISCELLANEOUS :
Commission expressed their disappointment in the city council
over-riding the commission' s decision on the illegally
installed awnings for Bud Johnson Interiors located on E1
Paseo Avenue.
VII . The meeting was adjourned at 2 : 10 p.m.
STEtVE SMITH
ASSOCIATE PLANNER
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