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Home My WebLink About1992-05-12 � �.rr' `i�r► MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMIS5ION1 MAY 12, 1992 •��;....f...;.:....•......f.....*.•.....�.....�.*..*..*.....�..........�.�.. I. CALL TO ORDER: The meetinn was called to order at 12:20 �.m. Commission Members Current Meeti�g Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron Greyory. Chairman X 7 1 Rick Holden X 8 0 Frank Urrutia X 6 2 Chris Van Vliet X 8 0 Wavne Connor. Alternate X 6 2 Staff Present: Phill Drell Steve Smith Jeff Winklepleck Steve Buchanan Donna Bitter !I. APPROVAL OF MiNUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Holden. to approve the minutes of the Aprii 28, 1992 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 4-0. ItI. ]t Mas moved by Caimissioner Urrutia, seco�ded by Commissioner Van Vliet. to a�rove the follotiri►x,� cases by minute nation. Motion carried 4-0. A. Final Draaings 1. CASE NO.: 3055 SA APPLICANT (ANO AD�RESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for EL JACAL. Pinvon Pines. Box 69, Mountain Center, CA 92361 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGNT: Approvai of awning with siUna4e LOCATION: 74-155 E1 Paseo Z01�: C-1 S.P. Jeff Winklepleck presented the proposed marquis type awning extendiny 6 feet from the building. Signacae would be 8 inch btack letters on all three sides. Commissioner Urrutia noted that the buildiny was set back and not seen from El Paseo. Cammission a�proved the awning as submitted. • � ,� M[I�1TES ARCHITECTURAL. REVEIN COMMISSION MAY 12. 1992 2. CpSE NO.: 3053 SA APPLICANT (AND ADORESS): SIGNS BY MEL for PEGGY AMES/STATE FARM INSURANCE. 41-945 Boardwaik, Suite B, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification sign and sign program for the building LOCATION: 72-925 Fred Waring Drive Z01�: 0.P. Jeff Winklepleck presented proposed signage noting that the applicant was reyuestiny approval of the Peggy Ames/State Farm Insurance sign as well as an approved sign program for the building. The applicant is also asking for approval of a 28" x 28" State Farm logo. The sign criteria would be 1 inch gator foam letters with an 18" maximum height timit. The letters wo�id be instalied flat to the fascia. Mr. Winklepleck noted that Peggy Ames would be occupyiny the bottom fioor suites along the frontage on Fred Waring Drive. Commission approved the business identification siynage for Peggy Ames/State Farm Insurance, as well as the sign proyram for the building, as submitted. State Farm logo to be non-illuminated. 3. �p� t�lp.: PP 90-24 APPLICANT (ANO A�DRESS)s DENNIS MELILLI for ROBIN PLAZA. 73-375 E1 Paseo, Suite U. Palm Desert, CA 92260; JUNE CATALDO c/o AVANT GARDENS, 1155 So. Miileken, Suite E. Ontario, CA 91761 NpTURE OF F�RO.)ECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of irrigation system �OCATION: Southeast corner of E1 Paseo and Sage ZONE: C-1 Commissian continued the request as the ap�licant was not present. 2 � � M I I�1TES ARCHITECTURAL REVEIW COMMISSION MAY 12. 1992 IV. CASES: A. Final Draaings: i. CASE NO.: 3052 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS)z CHINA GARDEN RESTAURANT, 73-196 Highway 111 . Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification sign LOCATION: 73-196 Hiyhway I11 Z01�: C-1 S.P. Jeff Winklepieck noted that the applicant was com�laining that his business siyn could not be seen at night. He was requesting approvai of a red neon si�n that would be the same as the existing "Open" siyn over the door. The applicant was wiiling to remove all existiny signage. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the neon sign to read "China Garden" subject to the removal of aii existiny signage ( i .e. "Open", "Open for Lunch", "Cocktails") . Proposed sie�n to be the same color, size and style of i:he existiny neon "Open" sign. Motion carried 4-0. Z. CASE NO.: PP 88-15 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : AMERICAN AWNING for L. MONDE tNTERNATIONAL. 44-489 Town Center Way #194, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awnings at rear of buiidiny LOCATION: 73-375 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 S.P. Jeff Winkler�leck presented colored rendering and plan for the proposed awnings to be placed on the back of the Colonnade buildiny. 7he shade structure would be instalied on the first and second floor. Ghairman Greyory asked how the awning would work with the existing palm trees. The appiicant, Jim Sadler, noted that the fascia of the awniny would clear the retaining wali . 3 `�rr•" �wr� M[NUTES ARCH)TECTURAI REVEIN COMMISSION MAY 12. 1992 Gommissioner Urrutia had no problem with the lower awning but was not comfortable with the structure on the second story. Commissioner Holden discussed his feelings on the lack of detaii notinca that commission wanted to make sure that the canopy did not look like it was tacked on. Commissianer Urrutia felt that the structure should be more substantial and would rather see more of an architectural feature tsomething that looks like it was part of the original building plan) . He added that the buildiny was more of a massive type architecture design and wr�nted to see someting more permanent looking. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the columns were too spindlv. Mr. Sadler indicated that he tried to cut down the size of the potes to make them seem as minimal as possible. Commissioner Van Viiet agreed with Commissioner Urrutia adding that the proposed structure did nothiny for the building. Cha i rman Gregor,y had no rea i concerns w i th the canopy but wanted to see the ends covered up in some way and make some breaks in the structure to create more interest, He noted that the building did articulate alony the back and su4yested following the breaks so that the canopy did not a�pear to be one long continuous run. Commissioner Urrutia added that he had no concerns with the canvas material but also would like to see it broken up some and suycaested ho 1 d i ng back the ends so i t wou i d not 1 i ne up w i th the end of the building. Action: Tt was moved bv Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to continue the reyuest directing the appiicant to design a more substantial architectural feature that wouid look like it was part of the oriyinai buiidiny design. Commission felt the proposed awning lacked detail and directed the applicant to fax copies of the revised plans to the commissioners for their approval . Motion carried 4-0. V. The follo�+ing item �,ras added to the agenda by a unanimous vote: 1. CASE NO.: PP/CUP 89-18 APPLICANT (ANO ADDRESS) : WILLIAMS DEVELOPMENT c/o Marty Butler for CATALtNA WAY SENIOR APARTMENTS, 42-600 Cook Street, Suite 135, Palm Desert, CA 92264 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAI SOUGFIT: Preliminary a�rovat of revised architectural and landscape plan 4 • wwr+ °`rr+�` M I I�1TES ARCHITECTURAL REVEIW COMMISSION MAY 12. 1992 LOCATION: 73-600 Catalina Way ZONE: R-2 S.O. Phil Dreli presented revised colored drawings as well as a detailed landscape plan showiny changes in the site plan and the addition of the slidiny ylass doors to the rear patios. Commissioner Urrutia discussed the lack of privacy in the patios. Mr. Drell noted the winy walls between the rear patios but indicated that the front courtyards would be open. Commissioner Holden felt that patios 4 to 5 feet from each other would not ailow for any privacy. Chairman Gregory asked about the meintainence of the patio areas. Mr. Drell noted that the comnon areas between the concrete patios would be maintained by the c�roperty owner. Cortmissioner Urrutia discussed his concerns with the tightness of the site plan. Ne suygested the applicant look at Lido Isle in Newport Beach as it is a good exampie of taking a tiyht space and turning it into something very nice. The Lido tsle layout aives a lot of identity to the units and creates some very interesting areas with undulations. Commissioner Holden discussed his concerns with the idea of all the back sliding glass doors looking directiy into the neighbors front r�atio area. He feit that varying the locations of the rear patios wouid help to eliminate this. Commissioner Urrutia asked if any study had been done on whether this type of compiex would work for seniors. He asked the applicant if she felt the residents would walk across the street to use the facilities at the senior center. Ms. Butler replied that she had studied this a�d found that the senior residents would use the senior center facilities. Commissioner Urrutia felt that this was an issue that should be addressed by the pianning commissian. Chairman Greyory noted that all the arnenities for this �roject would be provided by the senior center with the exception of the poot and small laundry room. Commissioner Urrutia asked to see how the inner courtyards and tiaht spaces would be handled. The architect asked commission about the addition of patio shade structures. Commissioner Urrutia felt that you can never have enough shade and would like to see the shade structures added. Mr. Smith added that the sliding ylass doors should have exterior key lock access. 5 - � � M I t�ITES ARCHITECTURAL REVEIM COMMISSION MAY 12. 1992 Commissioner Van Vliet noted that he atso felt that the site plan was too tight and was concerned with the lack of privacy. Chairman Gregory noted that most of the shrubs are approximately the same size and felt there was room for some lower ground material to provide some relief. He added that the rhapiolepis indica should be chanyed to a minimum 5 caallon size: however. the desert shrubs in the 1 gallon size would be acceptable. Action: lt was moved bv Corrunissioner Urrutia. seconded by Commissioner Holden, to yrant preliminary approval to the architectural design only subiect to the addition of tretlis work over the patio areas. Commission yranted conceptual approval to �the si�te plan and landscapiny directina t.he applicant to show how the inner courtvards and tiyht spaces would be handled. Motion carried 3-1 . Commissioner Van Vliet voting No. VI . ADJOURNMENT: 7he meeting was adjourned at 1 :30 c�.m. ,;l/- � , /% � ..._,.�._ . �� _._.�"� - STEVE SMITH ASSOCIATE PLANNER SS/db 6