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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-05-26 �rrr '� MINUTES ARCHITECTURAI REVIEW COMMISSIOt�I MAY 26. 1992 �F#iiFif-IF�IF#�F��iii1F�F�F�F�FiiFiaFiiFiiFiFiiFiiFi�F��F�Fii�kiiiF#i**i#i�ii��iiiii#i��Ffi�iiiF�F##aF I. CALL 70 ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12: 10 p.m. Commission Members Current Meetinea Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ron GreUory. Chairman X 8 1 Rick Holden X 9 0 Frank Urrutia X � 2 Chris Van Vliet X 9 0 Wavne Connor. Alternate X � 2 Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith Donna Bitter I I . APF'(?OVAL OF M1 NUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia. seconded by Commissioner Hoiden, to approve the minutes of the May 12, 1992 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 4-0-1 , Commissioner Connor abstaining. I[I. It r+as m�ved by Camiissioner Urrutia. seconded bY Commissioner Van Vliet. to ap�prove the follo�+iingi cases by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. A. Final Draaings: 1. CASE NO.: 3061 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): A.G. EDWARDS & SONS, INC. , 73-010 E1 Paseo. Palm Desert. CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification siynaye LOCATION: 72-795 Hiyhway 111 (former Glendale Federal Bank building) ZONE: P.C. 3 S�,eve Sm i th presented ttie p 1 ans not i ng that the request was for approvai of three wall mounted, internallY illuminated, siyns as well as to add the name of the business to the free standing sign on Highway ltt . The three wall mounted signs wouid be instalied on the east. west and north elevations. Commission a�proved the s i ca�acae as subm i tted. . �...� `� MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEM COMMISSION MAY 26, 1992 2. CASE NO.: PP 90-13 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DSL SERVICE CO. , 3501 Jamboree road, Suite 5000, North Tower, Newport Beach. CA 92658-6030 NATURE � PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGFIT: A�proval of satetlite pads E, F. J and K IOCATION: Fred Waring Drive and Highway lll ZONE: P.C. {3) S.P. Steve Smith presented final working drawings showing the added screen wall for the roof mounted equipment on buildings E and F as reauested by commission. Commission approved final plans as submitted. Motion carried 5-0. IV. CASES: 1. CASE NO.: 3059 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BEST SIGNS, 1NC. for PRUDENTIAL HAMPTON REAL ESTATE, 2600 So. Cherokee Way, Palm Sprinys. CA 92264: PRUDENTIAL HAMPTON REAL ESTATE, 77-171 Highway 111 , Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOlKiIiT: Approval of sign program chanae LOCATION: 77-171 Hiyhway 111 Z01�: 0.P. Steve Smith presented plans notiny that the request was for two new sians on the second floor and to chanye the building's sign arogram to a white backyround with blue letters. Staff suggested that the applicant yo with an ivor,y background with the blue letters. Mr. Smith noted that the,y were entitled to half the sianaae for the second floor as they have on the first floor. Gommissioner Holden felt �.hat the square logo sign should be downsized. Commissioner Van Vliet ayreed. Chairman Greyary discussed how the commission needed to make sure this building did not Uet too cluttered with signaae. 2 # � � M[NUTES ARCHITECTIIRAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 26, 1992 The leasiny agent. Mr. Tim Zibcu. indicated that he was trying to move Prudential Hampton Realtors from the first floor to the second floor. and was actuallv requesting a total of four new sicans. Mr. Zibcu was also requestiny to chanUe the monument sign to read "Prudential Plaza". He added that ali the existing signaqe on the building would be chanc�ed to conform to the new sign program. Commissioner Halden asked if Mr. Zibcu would be williny to change the backyround to an ivory color. Mr. Zibcu felt that Prudential Hampton would want to keep as close to their corporate colors lblue and white) as possible. Action: lt was moved by Commissioner Hotden to approve the signage subject to chanyiny the background to ivory and reducing the logo signs �to 3' x 3' . Motion died due to lack of second. Commissioner Urrutia was concerned with the two logo signs on �the face of the buildiny. He fett the two logos were not necessary as vou would see both of them within the same visibility. Chairman Gregory noted that the applicant was requesting a total of five loyos on the buildiny. Corrnnissioner Holden reminded the applicant that when the buiidiny was oriyinally approved, it was designed as a furniture/retail building and therefore the parking was designed for a retail use. He did not feel there would be enough parking for ali office space. Chairman Gregory discussed his concerns with the closeness of the larye building to the street and feit that with the monument siUn on the end and one logo placed on the other end of the buildiny, this shouid be sufficient. Action: It was moved by Commissioner llrrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor. to approve the signage with the followiny conditions: 1) Only one loyo siyn approved. ApF�licant to determine which side of buiiding they want to place the logo. 2) Loyo sign reduced to 3' x 3' . 3) BackUround color on all siUnage changed to ivorY. 4) Ail existiny signage to be changed to comply with new sign program. Mot.ion carried 5-0. 2. CASE NO.:a PP 90-24 APPI_ICANT (AND ADDRESS): DENNIS MELILII for SAGE PLACE, 73-375 E1 Paseo, Suite U, Palm Desert. CA 92260: JUNE CATALDO c/o AVANT GARDENS, 1155 So. Milleken, Suite E. Ontario, CA 91761 3 r � � MINUTES ARCHITE�TURAL REYIEW COMMISSION MAY 26. 1992 NATINtE OF PROJECT/APPR()VAL SOUGHT: Approval of irrigation system IOCATION: Southeast corner of E1 Paseo a�d 5age ZONE: C-1 Pt�il Drell presented i:he plans showing the instailed irrigation system which was not approved by the commission. He noted that the change was the result of changed plant materiai . Chairman Gregory noted that the approved plan was designed to appiy to flat ground and with the slope involved he felt that the applicant tried to work with a plan that was not designed as well as it could be. Commissioner Cannor asked if the area was top dressed. The applicant noted that it was not, adding that the owner of the Uroperty wants color and may want to add more colorful ground cover in the future. Commissioner Connor felt that the spray heads would be a probiem with the steep slopes. He felt that most tandscape maintenance peopie would over-water the slope area with the use of the spray heads and asked the appiicant if he had any type of contract with the owner to maintain the area properiv. The applicant noted that he did not have any type of contract for future maintenance. Chairman Gregory felt that the areas in question were minor enough to not require any chanyes. Commissioner Connor felt the slope area should be top dressed. Action: It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the revised irriyation system subiect to the addition of toa dressing with a material strong enough to avoid erosion ( i . e. palm springs gold fine) . Motion carried 3-2-0, Commissioners Urrutia and Connor vating No. 3. CASE NO.: PP 89-5 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ULTRA NEON for SOUTHWEST PLAZA, 5474 Cam�lex Street. Unit 501 , San Diego. CA 92123 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of additional business siUnaye 4 . � � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 26, 1992 LOCATION: Highwav 111/Lupine Avenue Phil Dreii presented plans showing the requested addi�tional siynage noting that the lettering would be identical �:o the existiny siynaye. Mr. Drell indicated that since the request was to place the additional signage above the 20 foot height limit, it would have to yo before the planning commission for finai a��roval . Commissioner Urrutia felt that this was more of a professionat type buildiny rather than a retail buildiny and noted that the co�ni ss i on has tr i ed to stay away from too many s i gns on such a buildiny. He felt that the name of the buildiny. Southwest Plaza, would not stand out wi1�h the additionai requested signage. Commissioner Urrutia did not see the validity of the additional signaye. Chairman Gregory discussed the possibility of grouping the additional signaye below the existing Southwest Plaza siynage. Commissioner Urrutia fe)t this would be a better option, as he also did not want to see the signs scattered around the buildiny. Commissioner Connor agreed, noting that the more spread out the siynaye is. the harder it would be to find an actuai office. The araF�licant felt this option would work and asked how much he could increase the existiny Southwest Piaza siUnage. Commission agreed on a maximum of 16 inches. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia. seconded by Carn�nissioner Connor, to continue the reyuest to allow the applicant to show how the siynage wouid lay-out, providing enaugh room for future tenants. Commission suggested raisiny the Southwest Plaza sign hiyf�er, moving the address, and list the remaining signage in smaller tetters below the Southwest Plaza sign. Motion carried 5- 0. V. The folla+ing items rrere added to the agenda by a unanimous vote: 1. CASE NO.: APPLICANT (AND ADORESS): RAY PIERCE, 73-330 Guadalupe Avenue, Palm Desert� Ca y2260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APF'ROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of Certificate of Conformance 5 . "wrw `�w�"`. MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REYIEN (AMIMISSION MAY 26, t992 LOCATION: 73-330 Guadalupe Avenue ZONE: Phil Dreli reported that the applicant, Mr. Pierce, owns an existiny four-plex on Guadalupe Avenue where a duplex is now allowed. He noted that Mr. Pierce had spoken with the department of pubiic works landscape staff and Eric has listed his recortxnended changes on the plan. Commissioner Connor feit that the one queen palm should be deleted. Mr. Drell asked about the existing irrigation system. Mr. Pierce noted that the system is spray heads. Action: lt was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Hoiden. to approve the Certificate of Conformance with the foliowing conditions: 1) Ground cover to be 12 inch on center 2) Replace the one aueen palm with a bottle tree 3) Provide bubble for each tree 4) Applicant to take out $2,500. 00 landscaping bond to be refunded once landscapiny is completed and acceptable. Mation carried 5-0. 2. CASE NO.: PP 88-15 APPIICANT (AND ADORESS): AMERICAN AWNING C0. for �. MONDE INTERNATIONAL, 44-489 Town Center Way #194, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAI SOUGHT: Approval of revised awning plan for second floor only at rear of building LOCATION: 73-375 E1 Paseo ZONE: C-1 S.P. The applicant, Jim Sadler, reported that the owner of the building was now only asking for approval of the awning on the second floor, on the south side of the building. Mr. Sadler �resented the revised plans showinU the columns and undulations, as weli as how the ends would be cF�anged as directed by commission. Chairman Greyory feit the revised pian could be acceptable if they could work out the details on how ttie columns and the ends of the structure would be addressed. 6 ' � �w �r�+'; MINUTES ARCH I TECTURAL I�V 1 EN (bMM I SS I C1N MAY 26, 1992 Commissioner Urrutia discussed how the commission had asked the applicant for a desiyn that was more architecturally designed wi�th the design of the building. He indicated that the revised proposal did not address this. Commissioner Urrutia fel�t that columns needed to be more substantial and noted his concerns with the lenyth of the awniny. He suggested that the applicant chanye the pro,�ections of the awning to c�rovide undulation, decreasing the overhany some so that it was not a continuous awning. He felt that this wouid break up the lony facade. Commissioner Urrutia discussed �the possibility of covering the window and door areas only with shorter awnings. He felt this would be more appealinca. Commissioner Holden feit that if the support posts were needed, they should tie into the buildiny is some way. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet. to continue the request to allow the applicant to amend the pro�osal to be consistent with commissions direction as outlined above. Motion carried 5-0. Vl . ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: Commission discussed the approved monument sign at Harv's Car Wash on Cook Street directing staff to insure that the landscaping and monument base com�ly with the approved plan. V[I. AD.�URNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 2: 15 p.m. �' --- � -,- %o. , STEVE MITH ASSOC[ATE PLANNER SRS/db 7