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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-11-24 a %We MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 ***************************************************************** I . CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12 : 15 p.m. Commissioners Present Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Rick Holden X 4 0 Frank Urrutia X 4 0 Chris Van Vliet X 4 0 Wayne Connor X 4 0 Richard O'Donnell X 3 1 Ronald Gregory X 3 1 Staff Present: Phil Drell Jeff Winklepleck Steve Smith Steve Buchanan Donna Bitter II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the minutes of the November 10, 1992 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 4-0-1, Commissioner Gregory Abstaining. III . It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the following cases by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. A. Final Drawings : 1 . CASE NO. : TT 25711 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SIERRA NOVA c/o PALM DESERT PARTNERS, LTD. , 77-900 Avenue of the States, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final landscape plans LOCATION: West of E1 Dorado Drive, 1/2 mile south of Country Club ZONE: PR-5 IONVII Nagle MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 Phil Drell reported that the plans were reviewed by Eric Johnson and found that the four model plans were the old oasis style landscaping. He noted that of the four models, one plan should be desert type and one should be a more lush desert type design in order to show prospective homeowners that these type of plans are available. Commissioner Gregory discussed with the applicant, Wes Oliphant, the commission' s feelings on the designs submitted and the commission' s goal of working towards more drought tolerant designs . Commission continued the case to allow the applicant to revise the landscape plans to include two desert type landscape plans for the four models . 2 . CASE NO. : TT 27561 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : JASCORP for WINTERHAVEN, 79- 811 Country Club Drive, Suite A, Bermuda Dunes , CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised exterior wall design LOCATION: South side of Hovley Lane, approximately 730 feet west of Portola Avenue ZONE: PR-5 The applicant discussed how the existing slump stone wall has taken its toll and was requesting approval to add slurry and paint (Meadow Brook X43) to the existing wall . This would match the wall at Hovley Collection. Commission approved the wall plan as submitted. Motion carried 4-0-1 with Commissioner Urrutia Abstaining. 3 . CASE NO. : 3075 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN CO. for HOLIDAY INN, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Reconsideration of location of free standing sign LOCATION: 74-675 Highway 111 ZONE: PC-4 The applicant, Jim Engle, discussed the problems with the approved sign location because of the existing stop sign 2 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 and trees that would block the sign. Mr. Engle also discussed the issue of the approved colors for the wall mounted sign to match the building trim. He noted that the applicant was planning on repainting the trim to another color. Commission approved the relocation of the monument sign subject to moving the stop sign to an approved location by public works department. Commission also approved the wall mounted raceway sign to be painted out to match the color of the building. Motion carried 4-0-1 with Commissioner Urrutia Abstaining. 4 . CASE NO. : 4047 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : BEST SIGNS for INTERIOR DESIGN CENTERS, 2600 Cherokee Way, Palm Springs, CA 92262 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 75-100 St. Charles ZONE: S . I . Jeff Winklepleck presented the plans and color samples for the proposed signage. Commission approved the signage as submitted. 5 . CASE NO. : 4049 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PARAGON SIGNS for EMBASSY SUITES, , 77-670 Springfield Lane, Suite 7A, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to replace existing sign face LOCATION: 74-400 Highway 111 ZONE: P.C. (4 ) Jeff Winklepleck presented the plans noting that the applicant was requesting approval to replace the face of the sign. Colors to be burgundy, green and white. Commission approved the signage as submitted. 3 ,,,,,,, MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 6 . CASE NO. : 4052 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SEAN ABAII for EL PASEO COLLECTION, 73-190 El Paseo, Suite 3, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of three neon, sandblasted monument signs LOCATION: Corner of E1 Paseo, Highway 74 and Ocotillo ZONE: C-1 S.P. Phil Drell presented plans for three back-lit neon signs and one monument sign for E1 Paseo Collection. The applicant, Sean Abaii, presented granite sample for the 4 ' x 10 ' monument sign. Commissioner Urrutia discussed his concerns with the proposed signs conflicting with the existing signage on the building. He felt that the signage on Building C was high enough that it would not be conflicting, however, felt that the other building signage could be confusing. Commissioner Gregory felt that commission would need to see photographs of the buildings with the existing signage to show that the wall mounted signs would not be a conflict with the proposed signage. Commission continued the request for approval of signs A and B to allow the applicant to provide photographs of all three buildings to insure that these wall mounted signs not be a conflict with the existing signage. Commission approved signs C and D, with the monument sign (D) at a maximum size of 8 ' x 3 ' . 7 . CASE NO. : 4053 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ED STRZELCZYK for PALM LAKES PARTNERS, 82-231 Helio Court, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of monument entry sign LOCATION: 74-945 Sheryl Avenue ZONE: Phil Drell presented plans showing a green marble monument sign with gold lettering noting that the sign 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 would have to comply with the city' s wall requirements as it was over six feet high; and therefore, would have to be 15 feet back from the property line. Commissioner Gregory questioned the landscaping shown in the plans . Mr. Strzelczyk indicated that the landscape design was not definite; however, did want to add planting around the monument sign to keep it from looking like a block wall . Commissioner Connor discussed the footings for the monument sign. Commission approved the monument entry sign subject to the sign face being recessed and the footing buried one full course. B. Preliminary Plans : 1 . CASE NO. : 390 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : BATCAN ENTERTAINMENT, INC. , 44-489 Town Center Way, Suite D-434, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of 5200 square foot restaurant LOCATION: Pad M at Carver Center, Country Club Drive and Cook Street ZONE: PC-2 Steve Smith presented site plan and color board for the proposed "Fast Ball Sports Bar" . Mr. Ken Feenstra indicated that Cook Partners Limited Partnership had reviewed the plans and approved the proposed restaurant for their center. Commissioner Urrutia questioned the outdoor patio area and lack of screening or sun protection. Commission approved the restaurant plans as submitted. 5 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 IV. CASES: A. Final Drawings : 1 . CASE NO. : 376 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : A & S ENGINEERING for TEXACO, 207 W. Alameda Avenue, Suite 202, Burbank, CA 91502 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of remodel plans for existing service station LOCATION: Northeast corner of Highway 111 and Cabrillo ZONE: C-1 S.P. Jeff Winklepleck presented the revised remodel plans . Commissioner Holden felt that the revised plans were not an improvement to the existing station noting that he did not see any type of design to the remodel . Commissioner Urrutia noted that the commission had directed the applicant to examine the Texaco and Union 76 remodels in Palm Springs as an example of what could be done at the Palm Desert location. He felt that the remodel plans could be much more creative. Commissioner Gregory agreed and would like to see something that is more creative. The applicant discussed the use of the corporate colors . Commission did not feel these colors would be a problem. Commissioner Urrutia discussed how the swamp cooler would have to be screened in some way. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to continue the case allowing the applicant to redesign a more creative plan. Commission noted that the swamp cooler would have to be screened. Motion carried 5-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : 389 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : RON P. ROBERGE for WARING PLAZA, 83-616 Avenue 45, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of satellite antennas LOCATION: Waring Plaza - Building E1 6 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 Steve Smith presented the plans showing a unique patio design for the umbrella satellite dish. The applicant, Ron Roberge, explained his obstacles in installing one dish on the roof as requested by commission, and was now requesting approval to install all three dishes on the roof at one time. Steve Smith indicated that the parapet is not seen from the street. Commissioner Holden felt that if the parapet is not seen from the street, there would be no problem with installing the dishes on the roof . Commissioner Urrutia disagreed, stating that he could see at least three feet of the parapet from the street. Ed Ritter of D.S.L. discussed the proposed changes in the surrounding landscaping. Mr. Roberge noted that the umbrella satellite on the ground would be reduced from a 7 foot to a 6 foot dish. Commissioner Connor noted that all future outdoor displays for the center would have to tie-in with this design. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve both ground and roof mounted dishes subject to the roof mounted dishes being completely screened. Motion carried 4-0-1, Commissioner Gregory Abstaining. 3 . CASE NO. : 4045 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LUMINOUS NEON LIGHTING for BAGEL BAKERY AND DELI, Post Office Box 2066 , Bell Gardens, CA 90201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 73-155 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 S .P. Jeff Winklepleck presented the plans requesting approval of a can sign with 18" letters . Commissioner Gregory noted his concerns with installing a can sign at this location with all the adjacent business signage being individual letters . Commissioner Urrutia was concerned with the white background on the can sign. Commissioner Holden suggested gator foam letters . The applicant discussed a free form sign with the background color to 7 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 match the building. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to continue the case directing the applicant to provide a photograph showing how the sign would fit in with the building. Commission noted that the background color would have to match the building color. Motion carried 5-0 . 4 . CASE NO. : 4046 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SPECIAL FOODS INTERNATIONAL, INC. , 74-894 42nd Avenue, Suite "D" , Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 74-894 42nd Avenue, Suite D ZONE: Jeff winklepleck presented plans and pictures of existing signage which had been installed without commission approval . The signs are a 42" x 36" wall sign with an 85" x 48" monument type sign placed in the landscaped area. Mr. Drell noted that this would have to be the only monument sign for the center. Commissioner Urrutia felt that if the sign was to be permanent, it should be much more substantial . Commissioner Holden discussed how he felt the monument sign was not very effective with the small lettering and large logo. Commissioner Connor felt that placing letters on the wall would better serve the purpose. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the signage subject to the following conditions : 1) Applicant to obtain encroachment permit from public works department; 2 ) Sign face to be mounted on a more substantial material (minimum 4" thickness) conforming to the shape of the sign face. Motion carried 4-1, Commissioner Holden Opposing 8 "r.r *4001 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 B. Miscellaneous Cases : 1 . CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : JOHN BAYARDO, 44-550 San Jose, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 17 foot single family dwelling LOCATION: 44-500 San Pascual ZONE: R-1, 18, 000 Steve Smith presented the plans for the 17 foot single family dwelling noting that most of the homes in the neighborhood were somewhat lower. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the house plans subject to hipping the north and south ends of the roof . Motion carried 5-0 . V. The following cases were added to the agenda by a unanimous vote: 1 . CASE NO. : 897 SF APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ROBERT HESS, 48-260 Center Court, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 7 foot wall on west side of property LOCATION: 73-430 Sunny Trail ZONE: R-1, 43,560 Mr. Hess outlined his one acre site noting that he had received approval signatures for an 8 foot wall from three of the four adjacent property owners . He indicated that the fourth property owner felt the wall was too high at 8 feet, but would approve a 7 foot wall . 9 ,w `*W10 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the 7 foot wall as submitted. Motion carried 5-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LEWIS C. BISHOP for MR. AND MRS. BARRY MACK, 44-465 San Onofre, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 17 foot single family dwelling LOCATION: 73-150 Loma Vista Lane Phil Drell presented the plans for the 17 foot home noting the hip roof . Action: It was moved by Commissioner Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the single family house plans as submitted. Motion carried 5-0 . 3 . CASE NO. : 4056 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : D.G. I . for THE OLIVE TREE, 83- 203 Indio Blvd. , Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 73-940 E1 Paseo ZONE: C-1 Jeff Winklepleck presented drawings and photographs of the building signage on the north side of the building. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the signage as submitted. Motion carried 4-1, Commissioner Connor voting No. 10 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 24, 1992 VI . ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 2 : 15 p.m. ST VE SMITH ASSOCIATE PLANNER SS/db 11