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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-12-14 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 I . CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12 : 15 p.m. Commissioners Present: Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Rick Holden X 7 0 Frank Urrutia X 6 1 Chris VanVliet X 6 1 Wayne Connor X 7 0 Richard O'Donnell X 6 1 Ronald Gregory X 7 0 Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith Steve Buchanan Daisy Garcia Donna Bitter II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the minutes of the November 23, 1993 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 5-0 . III . It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the following cases by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO. : 382 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : J.F. DAVIDSON ASSOCIATES for AVONDALE COUNTRY CLUB, 77-564 Country Club Drive, Suite 400-B, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final landscape plans LOCATION: Frank Sinatra Drive and Mozambique ZONE: PR-3 Steve Smith presented the revised final landscape plan. Commission approved the plans as submitted. s MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 2 . CASE NO. : 394 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : MORTON' S OF CHICAGO, 1313 Dolley Madison Blvd. , Suite 400, McLean, Virginia 22101 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of roof mounted satellite dish LOCATION: Northwest corner of Cook Street and Country Club Drive ZONE: P.C. (2) Steve Smith presented pictures of the mock-up satellite dish on the roof of the restaurant and showed how difficult it was to see the dish from any angle. He suggested that the commission approve the installation subject to painting the top half of the dish to blend in more with the building. Commission approved the installation of the roof mounted satellite dish as submitted. IV. CASES: A. Final Drawings : 1 . CASE NO. : 4232 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN CO. for PALM LAKES GOLF COURSE, 74-945 Sheryl Ave. , Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of additional monument sign LOCATION: 74-945 Sheryl Avenue ZONE: R-1 Steve Smith presented drawings of the monument sign design as well as photographs showing the proposed location. The applicant, Jim Engle, indicated that the sign would be ivory background with green letters . 2 *rrr MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 Phil Drell felt the proposed monument sign was more of an attraction board which would show special events or coming attractions . He felt that this was not what the applicant wanted, and indicated that he thought it was to be used to advertise special rates, etc. Commissioner Urrutia asked how the proposed sign could be allowed for this type of advertising when the only other monument signs approved for this nature were for night clubs and theaters . Mr. Drell thought that the applicant would have to go before the city council for approval of a special variance. Commissioner Holden questioned how many signs the applicant was allowed to have. Mr. Drell noted that they were allowed one sign per frontage. Mr. Engle suggested changing the wording on the sign to say Palm Lakes Golf Course - Open to the Public" . Mr. Drell noted that an approval would have to be subject to the applicant providing a title report showing the owner of the property where this sign would be placed. Steve Smith asked about the size of the sign. Commissioner Urrutia felt that proportionally it would need to be 4 ' x 101 . Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the monument sign subject to the following conditions : 1) Sign to read "Palm Lakes Golf Course - Open to the Public" ; 2) Applicant to provide title report showing ownership of property where proposed monument sign is to be located; 3) Maximum sign size to be 4 ' x 10 ' in the location facing Cook Street; 4) Letters only to be illuminated. Motion carried 5-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : 4233 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : AD-ART SIGNS, INC. for TEXACO, 19603 Figueroa Street, Carson, CA 96745 3 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 74-180 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 S.P. Steve Smith presented plans of the proposed signs noting that the pole sign would have to be removed. He outlined the various locations for the signs indicating that the free standing sign would have to be moved closer to where the existing sign is now. Commissioner Urrutia questioned the number of signs requested; however, felt the monument sign was acceptable. Commissioner Holden felt that the proposed 12 ' high monument sign was to high. The applicant felt that because it was 4 ' below grade that the 12 ' high sign would be acceptable. Phil Drell noted that the ordinance allows for 12 ' high monument signs if circumstances warrant. Commission discussed the circumstances and felt that the maximum sign height for the monument sign would be 9 ' . Commission then discussed each elevation separately with the various proposed signs . Commissioner Urrutia felt that the south elevation was acceptable. Commissioner Connor did not think all the stars were necessary. Commission felt that the signs on the north elevation were acceptable as submitted, noting that they were non- illuminated. Commissioner Connor felt that the stars on the west elevation were not necessary because of the large star on the 9 ' high monument sign. Commissioner Holden felt that all the signs and stars were not necessary on all three sides of the awnings. The applicant noted that the owner would not approve of the changes made by the commission and would rather leave the signs as they exist. Commissioner Holden noted that he would rather keep the pole sign and not have any additional signs on the building. 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the monument sign at a maximum height of nine feet, subject to removing the Texaco signs on the south side of the canopy, leaving the remaining proposed signs as submitted. The installation of the new signs would all be subject to removal of the existing pole sign. Motion carried 5-0 . Note: Commissioner Holden left meeting at 1 :35 p.m. 3. CASE NO. : 397 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : COLONY CABLEVISION, 41-725 Cook Street, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of installed satellite antenna LOCATION: 41-725 Cook Street ZONE: S. I . Steve Smith noted that a 14 ' satellite antenna was installed on the roof of the rear building fronting Cook Street and asked if the commission would have approved the installation at this location. Commissioner Connor asked if there was an existing dish already placed on the ground. The applicant, David Saul, noted that there was an existing antenna on the ground and there was no other area on the ground available to install the antenna. Commissioner Connor felt that there was space available on the ground to install this dish, and thought this would be a better location. Commissioner Urrutia felt that adding another dish would not be the answer here, and thought that there would be room on the ground using two parking spaces . Action: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to continue the request directing the applicant to have a representative from Colony Cablevision at the next meeting to show why the antenna was installed at this particular location. Motion carried 4-0 . 5 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 B. Preliminary Plans : 1. CASE NO. : PP 92-5 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LOWE DEVELOPMENT for DESERT CROSSING, Post Office Box 1650, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of revised elevations LOCATION: West side of Highway 111, south of Fred Waring Drive ZONE: P.C. (3) Phil Drell presented revised elevations showing the re- design for the Target building noting that he still felt it was unsatisfactory. The applicant, Kent McKently, outlined the change in the trellis and tile work surrounding Target store. He showed where the building stepped in and out, and the addition of a courtyard area with trees and benches . Commission discussed these changes in detail, with Commissioner Urrutia suggesting that the trellis be carried all the way to the entrance of the Target store. Commissioner Holden noted how he thought the entrance to the anchor tenants be the same as the other major tenants with the different architecture features instead of the large Target sign. Commissioner Connor felt that the main entry should be the most dominant area in the center. Mr. McKently re-approached the commission with three revised sets of elevations with changes as discussed with commission. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the scheme showing the addition of the pilasters was the difference the commission was looking for, noting that it did help break up the skyline. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the preliminary elevations subject to incorporating the revisions shown on Scheme No. 3 as discussed with commission. Motion carried 3-0-1, Commissioner Gregory Abstaining. 6 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 C. Miscellaneous Cases : 1. CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ROBERT S. RITCHEY for VARNER DEVELOPMENT (SUNTERRACE) , 78-340 Via Sevilla, La Quinta, CA 92253 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of elevations of Model BF at Sunterrace LOCATION: Northeast corner of Eldorado Drive and Hovley Lane ZONE: PR-5 Steve Smith presented plans showing the elevations for a new model at Sunterrace. Action: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the elevations as submitted. Motion carried 4-0 . V. The following cases were added to the agenda by a unanimous vote: 1 . CASE NO. : 4235 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : CHIEF AUTO PARTS, 1887 Business Center, Suite 5, San Bernardino, CA 92408 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to replace existing sign face LOCATION: 73-800 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 S.P. Steve Smith noted that the applicant was before the commission asking for approval to change the face on their existing sign. 7 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the sign change as submitted. Motion carried 4-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : 4236 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ROADRUNNER CAR RENTALS, INC. , 74-990 Joni Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 74-990 Joni Drive ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith presented pictures of the building showing where the applicant was requesting approval for additional signage. He noted that the applicant was allowed 19 square feet of signage and their existing signage was now at 18 square feet. Mr. Smith outlined the various menu items requested. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to continue the request to allow the applicant to be present in order to discuss the concerns of the commission. Motion carried 4-0 . 3 . CASE NO. : 4237 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : BEST SIGNS, INC. for CIRKO, INC. , 73-608 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 73-608 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith noted that the planning commission had approved a billiards parlor at this location and they were before the commission to request approval of a black and white, internally illuminated, sign. 8 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the signage subject to the background color being changed to ivory. Motion carried 4-0 . 4 . CASE NO. : 4238 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SHERRY L. BONNETT for LA GALERIE D' ART, 76-593 Begonia Lane, Palm Desert, CA 92211 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised signage on awning LOCATION: 73-660 E1 Paseo ZONE: C-1 S.P. Steve Smith presented pictures of the existing white awning noting that the applicant was requesting approval to add red letters on the awning with 12" capital letters and 6" lower case letters. Commissioner Connor discussed his concerns with the red letters next to the adjacent burgundy awning. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the signage on the awning subject to a maximum letter size of 12" for caps and 6 for lower case, with the letter color changed to burgundy to match the adjacent awning color. Motion carried 4-0 . 5 . CASE NO. : 4239 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for THE VILLAGE ZOO, Pinyon Pines, Box 69, Mountain Center, CA 92561 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage LOCATION: 73-405 E1 Paseo ZONE: C-1 S.P. 9 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 The applicant, Ernie Brooks, noted that the proposed awning would be placed at the northwest end of the E1 Paseo Village. He noted that the owner of the center will be adding a zoo using shrubbery in the back of the center. Commissioner O'Donnell asked about the black spots on the poles . Mr. Brooks noted that the spots could be eliminated. Commissioner Urrutia asked how this awning would affect the stores adjacent to the awning. He thought it was a good idea but maybe having it candelivered and eliminating the posts, as he felt it looked too boxy. Commissioner Connor suggested something more playful with the use of banners. Commissioner Urrutia agreed, and suggested an open wire structure. He added that if the applicant still wanted to use posts, he would like to see something more substantial . Action: It was moved by Commissioner Gregory, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to continue the request to allow the applicant to revise the plans to provide a more open structure. Motion carried 4-0 . 6 . CASE NO. : 4185 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ALKOBAR LIQUOR for COUNTRY CLUB LIQUOR II, 73-510 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised business identification signage LOCATION: 73-510 Fred Waring Drive ZONE: C-1 S.P. Steve Smith noted that the applicant was changing the name of his business to Country Club Liquor II/McSorley' s and discussed the proposed signage. He indicated that the applicant was asking to remove the Alkobar sign at the corner and install cabinet signs flush with the archways . The applicant asked to retain the existing "food" and "liquors" signs on the front side of the building, moving the existing neon beer signs to a less 10 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DECEMBER 14, 1993 visible location. The new signs would be maroon red with a turquoise band. Commissioner Urrutia noted that what the applicant was proposing to do with the new signs was an improvement, but did not see the need for the "food" and "liquors" signs . Action: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Gregory, to approve the revised signage in the archways, subject to the following conditions : 1) Signage color to be a red similar to the existing red; 2) Removal of the "food" signage; 3) Relocation of the neon "beer" signs; 4 ) Turquoise striping changed to red; 5) Removal of existing "Alkobar" signage. Motion carried 4-0 . VI . MISCELLANEOUS: Steve Smith noted that the applicant had altered the benches at the corner of Cook and Country Club, and relocated the free standing sign. He noted that the commission approved the sign; however, the Coachella Valley Water District is now telling the applicant that they have to move the sign back. Commission found these changes acceptable. VII . ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 2 : 35 p.m. S V SMITH- ASSOCIATE PLANNER SS/db 11