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MARCH 23, 1993
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I . CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 12 : 30 p.m.
Commissioners Present: Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Rick Holden X 11 1
Frank Urrutia X 9 2
Chris Van Vliet X 12 0
Wayne Connor X 10 2
Richard O'Donnell X i0 2
Ronald Gregory X 11 1
Staff Present: Phil Drell
Steve Smith
Steve Buchanan
Donna Bitter
II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner
Van Vliet, to approve the minutes of the March 9, 1993 meeting
as submitted. Motion carried 5-0-1, Commissioner Connor
Abstaining.
III . It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner
Connor, to approve the following cases by minute motion.
Motion carried 5-0 .
A. Final Drawings :
1 . CASE NO. : 393 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : TOTAL T.V. OF CALIFORNIA, INC.
for DEEP CANYON TENNIS CLUB, 27-700 Avenida Ballaza,
Cathedral City, CA 92234
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to install
one support tower with one 8 ' parabolic antenna at Deep
Canyon Tennis Club (overall maximum height of 16 feet)
LOCATION: Deep Canyon Tennis Club, 73-120 Frank Feltrop
Drive
ZONE: PR-7 S.P.
Steve Smith reported on the revised plans showing the new
proposed location of the satellite dish east of Highway
74 and south of the gate house. Commissioner O'Donnell
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appreciated the fact that Total T.V. made an effort to
find an alternate site, but noted the sites were
perimeter sites and this particular would affect hundreds
of people who drive up Highway 74 on a daily basis . He
noted several alternate sites within the interior were
discussed, and he felt that there were other sites that
would work better than this proposed site. Mr.
Fitzgerald indicated that a number of residents at Deep
Canyon Tennis Club opposed these interior sites .
Commissioner Holden agreed with Commissioner O'Donnell
but felt the proposed location was satisfactory with the
proper screening of trees and landscaping. Commissioner
Gregory agreed that it would be nice if the dish were
placed in the interior, but with the existing pine and
the addition of the evergreen pear, he felt it would be
satisfactory in the proposed location.
Commissioner Connor discussed how some type of agreement
was needed between Total T.V. and the Homeowners
Association to insure that the landscaping is kept up.
Commission approved the installation of the dish, by
minute motion, subject to the applicant entering into a
long term landscape maintenance agreement with Deep
Canyon Tennis Club Homeowners Association.
2 . CASE NO. : PP 92-2
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : D & F DEVELOPMENT, 80-899
Indio Blvd. , Indio, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final
working drawings
LOCATION: Southwest corner of Portola Avenue and Santa
Rosa
ZONE: R-2 S.O.
Phil Drell discussed the salient points with commission.
Commission granted final approval to the architectural
drawings while granting conceptual approval to the
landscape plans .
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B. Preliminary Plans :
1 . CASE NO. : PP 93-3
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : STEVE METSOVAS, Post Office
Box 5132 , Orange, CA 92667
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised
plans for a 10, 000 square foot retail shopping center
LOCATION: 78-850 Highway 111 (Biltmore Hotel site)
ZONE: C-1
Steve Smith presented the revised plans showing how the
ends were flattened out and the tower addition at the
center of the building. The applicant, Steve Metsovas,
showed how the landscaping would work with the revised
building design.
Commissioner Connor asked about the original street trees
that were not planted with the original building. Phil
Drell indicated that the applicant had planted hybrids
because when it came time to buy the necessary trees,
they were not available.
Commissioner Gregory noted that some of the things the
commission had asked for previously have not been done on
the revised plans . He suggested to save money and time,
Mr. Metsovas should hire a licensed architect to
accomplish what the commission was looking for.
Commissioner Holden noted that after the last building
went up, the commission received complaints from the
neighborhood about the starkness on the back of the
building. He felt that if another building was added
just like the existing building, it would create even
more of the same complaints .
Commissioner Holden indicated that he did not have as
much a problem with the front of the building as he did
with the back of the building. He noted that there was
very little undulation and very little landscaping.
Commissioner O'Donnell discussed his concerns with the
back of the building. He agreed that the use of an
architect would save the applicant both time and money at
this point.
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Steve Smith discussed the two foot gap between Chief Auto
Parts and the west wall noting that staff did not want a
2 ' gutter between the two projects and suggested that the
drain go under the slab to eliminate this 2 foot problem
area. He also discussed how some type of transition was
needed between the 7-11 building and this new building.
Commissioner Urrutia noted that this plan was similar to
what the commission sees without the use of professional
help as far as landscaping and design. He noted that an
architect would understand how to address aesthetic
issues . Commissioner Urrutia added that if this plan was
presented from a professional architect as shown, he
would not approve it; but felt that the revised plans
were a step in the right direction. He added that at the
last meeting he used the Carver project as an example on
how to make a project look a little more interesting.
Commission continued the request, by minute motion, to
allow the applicant to seek professional assistance on
the design as well as the landscaping.
Note: Commissioner Holden left meeting at 1 :00 p.m.
IV. CASES :
A. Final Drawings :
1 . CASE NO. : 4098 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PLACE VENDOME FINE JEWELRY,
73-950 E1 Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Reconsideration of
awning approval
LOCATION: 73-950 E1 Paseo
ZONE: C-1
Steve Smith reported that the applicant was before the
commission with revised plans . The case was continued at
the last meeting as the commission felt that the awnings
did not fit in with the architecture of the building.
Commissioner Urrutia referred to his comments from the
March 9th meeting where he indicated that a more linear
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design approach might be better. He suggested a design
using just one awning instead of the proposed three
awnings . Commissioner Urrutia felt that with this small
building facade, the three awnings were too busy. The
applicant, Nick Zeitounian, indicated that if he were
only allowed one awning, than he did not want any awnings
at all as he felt a simple awning would not look right on
this particular building.
Commissioner Gregory agreed with Commission Urrutia. He
indicated that the five foot awning over the door with
the two dome awnings did not work well together.
Commissioner Connor suggested eliminating the large
awning over the door and keeping the two window awnings
only. Commissioner O'Donnell suggested a simple element
with some undulation to achieve the effect the applicant
was looking for.
Phil Drell noted that the building front was very unique
and more effort was needed in the design of the awnings
to integrate better with the building. He suggested that
Mr. Zeitounian take a good look at other awnings along E1
Paseo where the building fronts are very distinctive and
how the awnings have worked.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by
Commissioner O'Donnell, to continue the request directing
the applicant to return to the commission with a more
imaginative and appropriate design solution. Motion
carried 5-0 .
B. Miscellaneous Cases :
1 . CASE NO. :
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SUSAN E. MARTINO, 44-675 San
Jacinto Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of
installation of lamp posts
LOCATION: 44-675 San Jacinto Avenue
ZONE: R-1
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Phil Drell reported that Ms . Martino was requesting
approval to install lamp posts in her front yard. She
indicated that people making the turn at night in front
of her property, do not make the turn sharp enough and
end up in her side yard. Ms . Martino noted that the
corner was very dark and she wanted to install the lamp
posts to light up this area. She presented signatures of
adjacent residents stating that the proposed lamp post
was acceptable to them.
Mr. Drell noted that staff would need specifications on
the intensity of the lighting to insure that it meet the
requirements of the lighting ordinance. He added that
the proposed light was over 6 ' high, and therefore would
need approval of a variance.
Commissioner Urrutia questioned the wattage. Mr. Drell
indicated that it was a 50 watt/high pressure sodium
bulb. Commissioner Urrutia suggested that a low sodium
light be used. Ms . Martino noted that she did not want
the amber light. Commissioner Connor suggested that the
inside of the globe be painted black on top. Commission
felt this was an acceptable solution.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by
Commissioner 0'Donnell, to approve the 8 foot lamp
subject to the top part of the globe being blocked out so
that the light would not escape upward. Motion carried
5-0 .
V. The following case was added to the agenda by a unanimous
vote:
1 . CASE NO. : 4015 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY for
NO DA TE, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage
LOCATION: 73-655 El Paseo, Suites L & M
ZONE: C-1
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Steve Smith presented the drawings for the proposed
business identification signage reading "No Da Te" and
asked the commission if any of them knew what type of
business this was . By looking at the signage, the
commission did not know that it was for a Japanese
Restaurant. Mr. 5mith indicated that the plan showed 24"
letters . Staff suggested 18" letters, as they felt the
applicant would be back before the commission, in the
near future, requesting that "Japanese Restaurant" be
added to the signage as no one will know that this is a
Japanese Restaurant.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by
Commissioner Connor, to approve the signage subject to a
maximum 12" letter and the siqnage placed high enough so
that future anticipated signage could be added ( i .e.
Japanese Restaurant) . Motion carried 3-0-2,
Commissioners Greqory and O'Donnell Abstaininq.
VI . ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 1 : 35 p.m.
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