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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-05-10 ,f � �� `�i� � MINUTE5 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 ***************************************************************** I . CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12 : 35 p.m. Commissioners Present: Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Richard Holden X 16 0 Frank Urrutia X 14 2 Chris Van Vliet X 15 1 Wayne Connor X 16 0 Richard 0'Donnell X 13 3 Ronald Gregory X 14 2 Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith Jeff Winklepleck Steve Buchanan Daisy Garcia Donna Bitter II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the minutes of the April 26, 1994 meeting as amended. Motion carried 4-0. III . It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the following cases by minute motion. Motion carried 4-0. A. Final Drawings : 1. CASE NO. : 4295 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : BEST SIGNS, INC. for BENNY' S BAGELS & DELI, 2600 So. Cherokee Way, Palm Springs, CA 92264 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 72-785 Highway 111, Suite B ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith presented drawings of the proposed signage. Commission approved the signage as submitted. � f '�'° °�iw MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 2. CASE NO. : 4302 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : BEST SIGNS for NOMADS OF THE DESERT, 38-480 Rancho Los Coyotes, Bermuda Dunes, CA 92203 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 73-190 E1 Paseo, Suite 1 ZONE: C-1 Jeff Winklepleck presented plans and pictures of the proposed signage indicating that it would be replacing the existing Hyacinthe sign as well as additional wall signage below the address . Commission approved the signage as submitted. 3. CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRE5S) : PETER SOLOMON for REGENCY ESTATES, 77-670 Springfield Lane, Suite 4A, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of landscape plan for private park LOCATION: North side of Country Club Drive, west of Tamarisk Row Drive ZONE: R-1 12,000 Commission continued the case at the applicant' s request. B. Miscellaneous Cases : 1. CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : HOLMGREN INCORPORATED for SANTA FE BUILDING PARTNERS, 74-854 Velie Way #6, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of carport structure 2 � r s�✓ i�I MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 LOCATION: 43-585 Monterey Avenue ZONE: O.P. Jeff Winklepleck presented pictures of the proposed carport structure and location. He indicated that the 8 ' high structure would be placed along the 6 ' wall fronting on Acacia. Commission approved the plans for the carport structure subject to it being painted to match the building. 2. CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : FOXX DEVELOPMENT, 74-818 Velie Way, Suite 12, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of single family home at 16 ' high LOCATION: 44-650 San Clemente Circle Steve Smith presented the plans for the 16 ' high single family home. Commission approved the plans as submitted subject to the existing grade not changing more than 6" . IV. CASES: A. Final Drawings : 1 . CASE NO. : 4290 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : NANCY NOEL & ASSOCIATES, 44-694 Monterey Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised monument sign LOCATION: 44-694 Monterey Avenue ZONE: R-2 3 V I � 5� MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 Steve Smith noted that this case was before the commission at it' s last meeting where the commission had denied the proposed monument sign. The applicant was present with revised drawings for a 15 square foot monument sign which met code requirements . Mr. Smith added that the revised signage showed three menu items and code would only allow for two. The applicant, Ms . Noel, indicated that the stucco would match the building with burgundy letters . She added that the two menu items would be "Wills - Trusts" . Jeff Winklepleck suggested making a single face, straight, monument sign and bring it closer to the street subject to approval from the public works department for an encroachment permit. Ms. Noel noted that there would be a 2 ' planter at the bottom of the sign. Commission preferred a single sign, double faced. Ms. Noel felt that a single sign, 12 ' back from the street, would not be visible. Commissioner Connor felt that it looked as if the entire front area of the property would be taken up by the monument sign because the lot was so small. Commissioner Urrutia noted that there would be two business identification signs close together and felt that the monument sign would be redundant. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve a double faced, flat sign, 5 ' high with no posts subject to the applicant receiving an encroachment permit from the public works department. Menu items to be reduced to read "Wills - Trusts" . Motion carried 4-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : 4300 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : MAIN STREET SIGNS for FAMOUS FOOTWEAR, Post Office Box 1318, Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 111 Town Center, Space 44-D 4 � � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 ZONE: P.C. (3) Steve Smith presented drawings of the proposed signage in red letters noting that the store would be going in the Marshalls/111 Town Center. He noted that the center' s approved sign program consisted of blue, rust and orange. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to deny the signage request as the proposed color did not conform to the center' s approved sign program. Motion carried 4-0. 3. CASE NO. : 4303 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : P.S. AWNING & SHADE for CHAPMAN ENTERPRISES, INC. , 73-199 E1 Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage LOCATION: 73-199 E1 Paseo ZONE: C-1 Jeff Winklepleck presented elevations and drawings of proposed marquis and quarter dome awnings . Mr. Winklepleck indicated that there was another marquis awning at the east end of the building, however, the space was vacant. This store was on the west end of the building. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve Option "B" , deleting the marquis awning. Motion carried 4-0. 4 . CASE NO. : 4305 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : TODAY'S SLEEP, Post Office Box 1047, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 73-394 Highway 111 5 � ' � � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith noted that the applicant was requesting approval to install a new sign face using the existing Water Bedroom can sign. The building will be painted in a coral color and the applicant wants his sign to be blue copy on a white background. The applicant noted that the three businesses at this location sit together on Highway 111 with very dark windows . He is trying to brighten up the building with the new paint and sign colors. Commission explained to the applicant how they have always tried to stay away from the bright white background. Commissioner Urrutia felt that repainting the building alone would solve the majority of the problem. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the signage subject to changing the background color to an off-white. Staff to grant final approval once applicant provides acceptable color sample. Motion carried 4-0 . 5. CASE NO. : PP 92-6 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : MAKENA PROPERTIES for DESERT SPRINGS MARKETPLACE, 33048 Rancho Viejo Road, Suite 120, San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675 LOCATION: Northwest corner of Cook Street and Country Club Drive ZONE: P.C. (2) Steve Smith presented the center' s site plan noting that the applicant felt they needed to add some greenery to the site. It is a basic drought tolerant planting scheme and they are now proposing to add turf in 8 particular areas shown on the site plan. Public works staff recommended approval of the added turf. The applicant felt that when you walk through the center is was too sparse and the entry areas needed something more. The turf would be approximately 6-1/2� of the over-all landscaping. 6 . � ' � � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 Commissioner Connor felt that the added turf was inconsistent with what the city is trying to accomplish with water efficient plans . He added that a green, lush look could be accomplished with something other than turf. Commissioner Urrutia felt the added turf was acceptable, but felt there should be something more than just grass. The applicant indicated that the shrubs around the turf areas already exist. Commissioner Connor felt that it was going to look like an after thought with the small turf areas . He added the maintenance problems with trying to keep the turf areas separated with bender boards. Commissioner Connor discussed other options that would fit in better with the center. Action• It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to continue the request noting that they would prefer annual color, bougainvillea or baccharis in place of the proposed turf areas. Commission felt that these alternatives would tie-in to the center more effectively. Motion carried 4-0. 6 . CASE NO. : PP 92-5 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LOWE ENTERPRISES, INC. for DESERT CROSSING, 1318 East 7th Street, Suite 200, Los Angeles, CA 90021; MCG & AS50CIATES, 200 So. Los Robles Avenue, Suite 300, Pasadena, CA 91101-8461 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL 50UGHT: Approval of sign proposal for majors 1-4 LOCATION: Southeast corner of Highway ill and Fred Waring Drive ZONE: P.C. (3) Phil Drell presented colored drawings on the proposed signage and color board for building elevations . He noted that by using the city's standard calculations, the proposed signage was too large. The only colors presented by the applicant were shades of red. Mr. Drell indicated that all the signs were above 20' so the program would have to go before the city council for approval . As well, the applicant was proposing that the 7 • � � � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 signs be channel letters (thru the face illumination) . Mr. Greg Hoxworth, noted that 90� of the center would be taken up by major tenants and their goal was to try to tie the colors of the signage in with the colors of the tile throughout the center. The oversized signage was needed because the major tenants would be approximately 1000 ' feet from the street. Commissioner Holden noted that the ordinance limited the center signs to three colors. Commissioner Urrutia felt that as long as the signs fit in with the proportion of the building, he did not have a problem with the height and style of the signage. The overall size area would have to comply with the ordinance. Commission felt that the channel letters in the colors requested would not be acceptable. They also noted that the use of halo lit reverse channel letters in three recent commercial centers (Mervyn's Center, Trader Joe' s and Ralphs) had worked quite effectively and was aesthetically pleasing. Commission indicated that the cabinet sign associated with the Service Merchandise sign could be acceptable subject to additional detailed review. Mr. Hoxworth presented the drawings for the proposed monument sign. Mr. Drell indicated that the center was entitled to one monument sign per frontage and asked the commission to realize the size of the center and how far the tenants are from the street. Staff noted that monument signs were limited to 6 feet in height and usually no more than 2 tenants identified. Commissioner Urrutia discussed his concerns with the marquis type monument sign and questioned the way the monument sign was being presented. He felt a smaller monument sign with fewer tenants listed, with reverse channel, back lit letters would be more acceptable. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the wall sign program for the center subject to the following: 1) Approved colors shall be red, white and blue; 2) All signs to be reverse channel letters with white neon not to exceed 4500 intensity; 8 , • � �: MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 3) Sign size for each tenant not to exceed ordinance formula (i .e. for each tenant - 1 square foot per linear foot of building frontage for the first 50 feet, 1 square foot of signage for every 2 feet of building frontage for the next 50 feet, and 1 square foot of signage for every 4 feet of building frontage in excess of 100 feet) ; 4) That the wall signs not exceed at height of 28 feet and this height is subject to approval by the city council. Motion carried 4-0 . The matter of the freestanding signs was continued to allow the applicant to return with a more acceptable proposal in keeping with comments from commission. B. Preliminary Plans : 1 . CASE NO. : PP 93-6 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ROBERT MAYER TRUST for COUNTRY CLUB FALLS, Post Office Box 8680, Newport Beach, CA 92658 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of architectural and landscape plans for residential and commercial development LOCATION: Northeast corner of Country Club Drive and Monterey Avenue ZONE: PR-7 Steve Smith presented the plans informing the commission that the applicant would be going before the planning commission the following week for a general plan amendment and zone change request. Plans showed a 28 acre site to include 141 lots ranging in size from 5,000 to 8,000 square feet. He noted that the residential portion provides for a minimum 20 ' front yard setback, 15 ' rear yard setback, and 5 ' side yard setbacks on either side. He indicated that the 1950 square foot house included a loft. 9 , . „�r wrr� MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 The applicant, Mr. Tim Bartlett, indicated that he was not prepared to submit elevations for the commercial center, as he was undergoing some changes as the result of a major tenant. Mr. Smith noted that the property was zoned PR-7 and the number of lots came out to approximately 5 .05 homes per acre where 7 per acre are permitted. He noted that the planning commission would be determining if this was acceptable. Commissioner Holden asked to see wall plans with landscaping. Mr. Bartlett outlined the elevations along Country Club Drive which included a 12 ' meandering sidewalk with a water feature at the corner of Country Club Drive and Monterey Avenue. He also discussed the proposed sculpture garden. Commissioner Holden asked about access to the tennis courts . The applicant, Steve Sandberg, indicated that parking spaces would be added in this area. Mr. Smith noted that each lot is required to have two 24" box trees with leaves. Commissioner Van Vliet discussed his concerns with the grade differentials from lot to lot. Mr. Sandberg noted that the slopes would be landscaped where there would be higher walls because of the grade difference. Commissioner Connor asked about the height of the homes . Mr. Sandberg noted that the one story homes were up to 18 ' high with the 2-story homes at approximately 20 ' to 21 ' . He noted that the roofs have a taller pitch to give a more massive look. Commissioner Holden discussed his concerns with the grade problems with such tight lots noting that an 18 ' home only 5 ' from the neighbor' s 18 ' home at a higher grade would have the resident looking out at a 23 ' home. He felt that the houses were high, the lots were tight, and the setbacks are small . Mr. Smith noted that the applicants would need to make some changes in the house plans to bring the heights down to a maximum of 18 ' for this zone. 10 • ' " "q�w» �. MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 Commissioner Connor informed the applicants that they require at least one of the three models show a water efficient/drought tolerant planting design. He added that wall plans and landscaping (specifically along Monterey Avenue) were needed. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to continue the request until after the planning commission and city council take their position on the site plan. Commission directed the applicant to revise the house plans to conform to the 18 ' height limit in this zone. Commission also directed the applicant to provide a water efficient/drought tolerant landscape plan on one out of every three models and some type of wall plan to show the landscaping, specifically along Monterey Avenue. Motion carried 3-0-1, Commissioner Urrutia Abstaining. 2 . CASE NO. : CUP 94-2 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : MICHAEL CASTELLI for ANDREINOS, 73-098 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: MICHAEL CASTELLI for ANDREINOS, 73-098 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 LOCATION: 73-098 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith noted that the planning commission approved an addition at the rear of the restaurant noting that the approval was subject to the applicant obtaining additional parking spaces. Commissioner Van Vliet questioned the roof equipment and how it would be screened. Commissioner Holden felt that the equipment could be screened the same way as was done on the front of the building. Mr. Castelli was present and indicated that he would work with commission to address this matter. 11 � � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 10, 1994 Action• It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the preliminary plans subject to screening the roof mounted air conditioning equipment as done on the front parapet. Motion carried 4-0 . V. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 3 : 15 p.m. � . S EVE SMITH ASSOCIATE PLANNER SS/db 12