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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-10-25 t MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1994 ***************************************************************** I . CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12 :20 p.m. Commissioners Present: Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Richard Holden X 4 0 Frank Urrutia X 4 0 Chris Van Vliet X 4 0 Wayne Connor X 4 0 Richard O'Donnell X 4 0 Ronald Gregory X 4 0 Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith Daisy Garcia Donna Bitter II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the minutes of the September 27 , 1994 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 6-0 . It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the minutes of the October 11, 1994 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 6-0 . III . It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the following cases by minute motion. Motion carried 6-0. A. Final Drawings : 1 . CASE NO. : 4384 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PARAGON SIGNS for SLOPE 2 SHORE, 77-670 Springfield Lane, Palm Desert, CA 92211 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 73-360 Highway 111, Suite 4 ZONE: C-1 ,%NW 1*404, MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1994 Steve Smith presented the drawings for the proposed signage. Commissioner Urrutia thought that the signage on both sides of this store looked much smaller. The applicant noted that the sign would be hung over the planter area. Commission approved the signage as submitted subject to it being located over the planter area and not encroach into the sidewalk. Motion carried 6-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : 4389 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PRETTY NAILS, 73-655 E1 Paseo, Suite A, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 73-655 E1 Paseo, Suite A ZONE: C-1 S.P. Steve Smith presented the drawings for the proposed signage in teal letters . He indicated that this was the end unit at the corner of Larkspur and E1 Paseo. Commission approved the signage as submitted. 3 . CASE NO. : PP 90-12 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : GLENN BRADLEY ENGER ARCHITECT & ASSOCIATES for COLD CALL COWBOY PRODUCTIONS, 74-481 De Anza, Palm Desert, CA 92260; LUDINGTON/LINK GENERAL CONTRACTING, 73-305 Pinyon, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of modification to landscape plan LOCATION: 75-100 Mediterranean ZONE• S. I . Steve Smith reminded the commission that this case was before them at its last two meetings and that the final working drawings were altered when submitted to the building department. The applicant, Mr. Ludington, indicated that the alterations were to allow for a 2 f ftwI MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1994 handicap access to the front entrance. He added that there were two doorway accesses on the north side of the building that went to hallways leading to the front reception office. Commissioner Urrutia asked if the handicap access could be relocated closer to the front entrance. He noted that the handicap parking could be located on the opposite side of the parking lot as long as it was marked on the pavement. Chairman Gregory asked to review the landscape plan. Commissioner Connor asked if there was room to have cut outs along the wall for planting some type of vines . Commissioner Holden asked if they could delete one parking space. Mr. Smith indicated that the building grew considerably and they were very tight on parking. Mr. Ludington indicated that the stairway leading to the air conditioning equipment had been removed, and there also would be no storage in this area. Chairman Gregory felt that the revised plans showed the entire north side of the building looking like a utility building. Commissioner Urrutia suggested using one of the back access doors at the parking area as entrance to the reception area. He indicated that if the applicant would change the way the floor plan would flow, he would meet the handicap access requirements of code. Commission retained the previously approved landscape plan subject to the internal function of the floor plan being slightly changed to relocate the reception area to the rear of the building. B. Miscellaneous Plans : 1 . CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : JOSHUA A. SCHILLING, 44-392 Lingo Lane, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 6 ' high block wall LOCATION: 33-392 Lingo Lane 3 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1994 ZONE: R-1 Phil Drell presented the drawings for the wall noting that the property was on a private road off Catalina which was not improved as part of the city' s assessment district. Mr. Drell reported that the request was before the commission because of the ordinance that restricts a 6 ' wall closer than 15 ' from the curb. He indicated that because the existing roadway was originally placed on only one side of the road, other homeowners have placed walls all the way out into the street. Mr. Drell added that the ultimate goal would be to place a wrought iron fence across the front. Mr. Smith informed Mr. Schilling that if he were to come back in the future with a request for a 6 ' fence across the front of his property, he would need a minimum of 2 ' from the pavement for landscaping. Commission approved the 6 ' high block wall with the condition that it be placed 2 ' back from the edge of the existing pavement. IV. CASES: A. Final Drawings : 1 . CASE NO. : 4249 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ROADRUNNER CAR RENTALS, INC. , 74-830 Velie Way, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised business identification signage LOCATION: 74-830 Velie Way ZONE: S . I . Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to continue the request as the applicant was not present. Motion carried 6-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : 4382 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : J. LAWRENCE HALL for HELGESON/HALL, 73-130 E1 Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1994 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to recover existing awning for new business identification signage LOCATION: 73-130 E1 Paseo ZONE: C-1 S .P. Steve Smith presented the drawings for the awning noting that the applicant was requesting 9" letters . Commissioner Urrutia indicated that unless the commission was shown some type of hardship, they could not approve anything larger than 8" letters as stipulated by code. The applicant indicated that the owner of the business felt that 9" letters on this awning were appropriate as there were quite a few awnings along E1 Paseo with larger than 8" letters . Commission explained the different situations where it allowed larger than 8" letters on awnings, but felt that there was no justification in this situation. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the awning as submitted with 8" maximum letter height. Motion carried 6-0 . B. Preliminary Plans : 1 . CASE NO. : TT 27561 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : DESERT SOUTHWEST DEVELOPERS, INC. for HOVLEY COURT, Post Office Box 10179 , Palm Desert, CA 92255; STOFFREGEN FULLER & ASSOCIATES, 73-725 E1 Paseo, Suite 23E, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Reconsideration of revised model elevations LOCATION: South side of Hovley Lane, west of Portola Avenue ZONE: R-1 Steve Smith reminded the commission that the elevations received preliminary approval at its last meeting with conditions that hip roofs needed to be placed where there 5 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1994 was minimum 10 ' sideyard separations . Mr. Smith indicated that the applicant had revised the site plan and showed how the units would relate to each other. He reported that the applicant did not wish to do the hip roof design and came up with a new site plan where the minimum separations would be 16 ' . The request was now for approval of this site plan and to eliminate Condition No. 1 from the October 11, 1994 meeting. The applicant, Mr. Joe deCoster, outlined the project showing where the buildings were pulled further apart. Mr. deCoster indicated that he had a letter from the existing homeowners at Woodhaven approving the revised plan. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the revised site plan, eliminating Condition No. 1 from the October 11, 1994 meeting. The gable roofs were acceptable given the extra distance between the units . Color samples were also approved as submitted. Motion carried 6-0 . C. Miscellaneous Plans : 1 . CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : JOBE CONSTRUCTION for THE STITCH RESIDENCE, 75-101 Sego Lane, Suite D, Palm Desert, CA 92211 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of single family home over 15 ' in height LOCATION: 73-181 Bel Air Road ZONE: R-1 13,000 Mr. Smith presented the house plans noting that the setbacks were 10 ' on each side and the lot was located on the lower side of the street. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the plans for the single family residence as submitted. Motion carried 6-0 . 6 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1994 V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: Mr. Charles Kaban asked to speak to the commission regarding the problems he was having at his home on Shadow Mountain Drive because of the drainage situation from his neighbor' s new home on Joshua Tree. He informed the commission that the sprinkler system installed in June at the Jaymes ' residence has been draining onto Mr. Kaban' s property and distributed photos showing the results of this drainage problem. Mr. Kaban has been working with Joe Gaugush, of the Public Works Department, on the situation, and feels that nothing has been done to correct the problem. He indicated that Mr. Gaugush has spoken to Mr. Jaymes regarding the drainage and suggested digging a ditch on Mr. Jaymes property to repel the water draining from the oleanders . Mr. Jaymes did dig the swale, however, it is located on Mr. Kaban' s property. Mr. Kaban met with Mr. Jaymes in September, at which time Mr. Jaymes felt that it was Mr. Kaban' s responsibility to repel the water from Mr. Jaymes ' property. Commissioner Urrutia reviewed the discussion commission had with the two homeowners when the plans were before the commission earlier this year and the possibility of moving Mr. Kaban' s fence to the property line or building a new common block wall . He felt that if this had been done, there would not be the problem today. Commissioner Holden remembered that Mr. Jaymes did not feel there was a requirement by the city to install a block wall when a fence already exists and that is why there is oleanders on the slope now. Commissioner Urrutia noted that the grading plan showed the water draining to the street and felt there would be no problem if the grading plan was followed correctly. Commissioner O'Donnell went over to the house two months ago at the request of Mr. Kaban and saw that the water was not being contained properly from the home on Joshua Tree. Commissioner O'Donnell brought pictures of the situation to Joe Gaugush and Mr. Gaugush informed him at that time that he would meet with the property owners to try and resolve the situation. Mr. Smith asked if the issue was that the trench isn' t effective or the fact that it is on Mr. Kaban' s property. Mr. Kaban noted that the trench was starting to seep down and he is starting to get more water onto his property. Mr. Kaban discussed his concerns with flash flooding that occurs in this 7 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1994 area. He is concerned because there is no insurance policy that will cover his property from flood damage. Chairman Gregory informed the Mr. Kaban that his first step would be to talk to Joe Gaugush again, and if Mr. Gaugush felt that the property was not properly graded so that it functions properly, than Mr. Jaymes is violating his agreement with public works . If Mr. Gaugush can't get this matter resolved, than it becomes a civil matter. Chairman Gregory questioned the type of sprinkler system and thought that it should be controlled better by just watering each individual oleander. Chairman Gregory felt that if Mr. Gaugush could not resolve the matter satisfactorily than perhaps Mr. Kaban should talk to someone higher up. Mr. Kaban felt that it was the commission' s responsibility to inform Mr. Jaymes that his approved plans were not followed properly. Chairman Gregory disagreed and felt it was not the commission' s responsibility to follow through on grading plans . Mr. Smith noted that he had spoken to Mr. Gaugush on the situation and Mr. Gaugush informed him that he has been getting very little cooperation from Mr. Jaymes and Mr. Jaymes wasn't returning his phone calls . Commissioner Urrutia noted that staff had to give Mr. Jaymes a Certificate of Occupancy so that tells him that everything had to be inspected and approved by staff. He asked if the building department, public works department and the planning department all signed off on this home. Mr. Smith indicated that since the Jaymes ' are living in the dwelling then this process must have been completed. Commissioner Holden felt that this was more an irrigation problem than a grading problem. Commissioner O'Donnell discussed the history of the house plans which came to A.R.C. after the grading had been completed, and reminded the commission that Mr. Jaymes did not obtain the approval of his homeowners association and ended in a law suit with the association. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the next step should be to go to the city council with the problem. Commission directed staff to prepare a brief history of what the project went through and present it to the city council asking them for their help in resolving this . Commissioner Urrutia felt that it was not right that Mr. Kaban is getting the run-a-round and that no one can bear 8 V000-1 N MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1994 enough pressure to get this situation corrected. He reiterated that this commission had waived the normal requirement for the installation of a block wall but had requested that the slope be planted with oleander in order to reduce the view from the Jaymes property into the Kaban property. The view problem had resulted from the grading ( filling) which took place on the Jaymes property. Considering that the planting on the slope was done at the direction of the A.R.C. to address an A.R.C. concern, then the city should be able to resolve the water drainage issue. The city council should get involved and suggest how this should be handled. Commissioner Urrutia asked staff to review the grading plan and make sure that it was adhered to. He felt that if the grading plan was adhered to than there is another issue that has to do with an irrigation problem. He added that if the grading plan was not adhered to then the city has grounds to back to the property owner to make sure that he corrects the situation. Commissioner Urrutia stated that in this situation the grading was so critical that there really wasn't any room for margin of error or deviation. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to direct staff to prepare a brief history and staff report on the project to include the intent of the grading plan (not to drain on Mr. Kaban' s property) and forward this onto the city council for action. Motion carried 6-0 . Commissioner O'Donnell suggested that the photographs taken by Mr. Gaugush be attached to the staff report for city council . VI . ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 2 : 05 p.m. ST M TH ASSOCIATE PLANNER SS/db 9