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Home My WebLink About1995-08-22 MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 22, 1995 ***************************************************************** I . CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12 : 20 p.m. Commissioners Present: Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Richard Holden X 21 2 Frank Urrutia X 21 2 Chris Van Vliet X 22 1 Wayne Connor X 23 0 Richard O'Donnell X 20 3 Ronald Gregory X 20 3 Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith Jeff Winklepleck Donna Bitter II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the minutes of the August 8, 1995 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 5-0-1, Commissioner O'Donnell Abstaining. III . It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the following cases by minute motion. Motion carried 6-0. A. Final Drawings : 1 . CASE NO. : 4520 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : HUMPHREY' S YOGART, 72-795 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of double sided directional sign in existing 36" high housing LOCATION: 72-295 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith presented pictures of the existing directional sign that has never been approved through the city. Commissioner Holden thought the sign was originally installed as the drive-up teller sign for Santa Fe Federal . Commissioner Urrutia noted that the sign is lighted. MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 22, 1995 Commission approved the directional sign as installed, subject to the electrical being certified by the building department as this was an existing sign that was installed as part of the original center before it was part of the city. 2 . CASE NO. : 4526 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : RIOFINE NEON for DE LUCA JEWELERS, 3500 Tachevah Avenue, Suite D, Palm Springs, CA 92262 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 73-655 E1 Paseo, Suite F ZONE: C-1 Jeff Winklepleck presented pictures of the proposed sign noting that it was an existing sign that the applicant wants to move to this new location. He noted that the sign is rust on a brown background, which he felt would not read well. Commission approved the business identification signage as submitted. 3 . CASE NO. : 4527 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : A JULES AUTO SERVICE, 74-481 Avenue 42, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 74-481 Avenue 42 ZONE: S. I . Jeff Winklepleck presented pictures of the sign noting that it was a 4 ' x 8 ' sign already installed. He indicated that the height of the sign, and the number of menu items were a problem. 2 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 22 , 1995 Commission discussed various options with the applicant on where and how to place the signs . Mr. Winklepleck noted that there is a 16 ' right of way there, and that the public works department had no concerns with issuing an encroachment permit. Commission approved the business identification signage subject to placing the Pennzoil sign on the building with a maximum of two menu items per sign at a maximum height of six feet for the free standing sign. 4 . CASE NO. : 4528 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PARAGON SIGNS for CAPTAIN COOKS SEA GRILL, 77-622 Country Club Drive, Suite T, Palm Desert, CA 92211 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of double sided attraction board LOCATION: 72-191 Highway 111 ZONE: P.C. (4) Jeff Winklepleck presented pictures of the proposed free standing sign noting that it was similar to what Bananaz has now but with a fake stucco finish. He added that the size of the sign meets the code requirements . Commissioner Urrutia felt that the design could be much better than what was proposed. Commissioner Holden asked if there was a way of policing the contents of the sign. Mr. Winklepleck noted that the code specifically states what the sign could be used for. Commissioner Holden agreed with Commissioner Urrutia in that the design should be something special . Commissioner Urrutia added that this sign was no different than the theater sign and commission had them do something creative. Commission continued the request to allow the applicant to redesign the free standing sign to incorporate the materials used on the existing building. Commission wants something more creative than what was proposed for this location. 3 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 22, 1995 5 . CASE NO. : 413 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : AMERIGAS PROPANE for PALM DESERT MOBIL, 43-612 No. Jackson Street, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to install 499 gallon LPG tank LOCATION: Mobil Station, 73-611 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Jeff Winklepleck presented drawings of the proposed tank and its location. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the tank should be located closer to the center of the shopping center for aesthetic reasons . The applicant noted that this area belonged to the shopping center, not the gas station. Commissioner Gregory agreed and felt that the tank should be located somewhere away from the main street intersection. Commission continued the request to allow the applicant to find another location that would not be as visible from the highway intersection. Commission instructed the applicant to show how the tank would be screened better and to provide an actual site plan showing the property lines to help them determine exactly where the proposed location was . 6 . CASE NO. : 4529 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : TRAVIS ENGINEERING for MOBIL OIL CORP. , 14700 East Firestone Blvd. , Suite 107 , La Mirada, CA 90638 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to install monument sign LOCATION: 78-005 Country Club Drive ZONE: P.C. (2 ) Jeff Winklepleck presented drawings of the proposed sign noting that it would be placed at the corner of Country Club Drive and Washington Street. He noted that there was an existing sign on the wall for the center, but that 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 22 , 1995 the proposed sign did meet all the requirements for a free standing sign. Commissioner Urrutia suggested incorporating the existing free standing sign with the new proposed Mobil sign. Commission also discussed the possibility of moving the sign down Country Club Drive some. Commission approved the monument sign with the condition that the existing center sign be removed, or incorporate the existing free standing sign with the proposed Mobil Oil sign. Commission informed the applicant that they are allowed a maximum of 8 feet in height for the sign. 7 . CASE NO. : TT 24287 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : NEC FINANCIAL CORP. , Post Office Box 14004-347, Villa Park, CA 92667 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final working drawings LOCATION: Deep Canyon Road, north of Fred Waring Drive ZONE: PR-5 Steve Smith noted that the commission had approved the preliminary plans at their last meeting and the final working drawings were now before them for approval . He noted that the building department did not have any concerns with the final working drawings . The applicant, Mr. Steve Sanberg, noted that there would be eight front courtyards on Plan 70 and three front courtyards on Plan 65A. Commission approved the final working drawings as submitted. Motion carried 5-0-1, Commissioner Gregory Abstaining. 5 *POW MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 22, 1995 IV. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 1 : 15 p.m. STEVE SMITH ASSOCIATE PLANNER SS/db 6