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DECEMBER 12, 1995
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I . CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 12 : 30 p.m.
Commissioners Present: Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Richard Holden X 7 0
Frank Urrutia (excused) X 6 1
Chris Van Vliet X 7 0
Wayne Connor X 6 1
Richard O'Donnell X 7 0
Ronald Gregory X 6 1
Staff Present: Phil Drell
Steve Smith
Jeff Winklepleck
Daisy Garcia
Donna Bitter
II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner
Holden, to approve the minutes of the November 28, 1995
meeting as submitted. Motion carried 4-0-1, Commissioner
Connor Abstaining.
III . MISCELLANEOUS (Library at College of the Desert) :
Phil Drell presented the working drawings to show the
screening of the air conditioning equipment noting that the
equipment on the Fred Waring side of the building was not
screened because it is set so far back from the building edge.
Mr. Drell suggested that the equipment be painted to blend
better with the roof color.
Commissioner Holden felt that the screening was almost worse
than having no screening at all because the equipment is only
being screened from the C.O.D. parking lot, not from Fred
Waring Drive. Mr. Drell indicated that Ray Diaz will be
bringing up the issue under city manager' s reports at the
December 14th city council meeting. Commissioner Holden felt
that the screening was not an appropriate solution.
Commissioner O'Donnell suggested that staff take a video of
the screening from all sides of the building and take it to
the December 14th council meeting asking the architect to
comment on the issue. Commissioner Holden felt that they
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should be more concerned with the view from the street, not
from the C.O.D. parking lot.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by
Chairman Gregory, to recommend to the city council that
the roof mounted air conditioning equipment on the
library building under construction on the College of the
Desert campus be screened properly from the street.
Motion carried 5-0 .
IV. CASES:
A. Final Drawings :
1. CASE NO. : 4579 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN CO. , INC. for
THE PRUDENTIAL, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage
LOCATION: 72-171 Highway 111
ZONE: C-1
Jeff Winklepleck presented drawings of the existing
building with signage noting that the building has
frontage on Highway 111 and Painters Path. He indicated
that the applicant is requesting that the existing
"Thomasville" sign on the north side of the building be
moved to a lower location on the building while placing
a 2 ' x 8 ' "Prudential" blue and white sign in its place.
The applicant is also asking for an additional
"Prudential" sign facing the parking lot. Mr.
Winklepleck indicated that the proposed signs do meet
code requirements for size.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by
Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the revised business
identification signage as submitted. Motion carried 5-0 .
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2 . CASE NO. : 419 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SION GANNON for THE GANNON
OFFICE COMPLEX, 46 Joya Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of plans
for elevator to existing second story
LOCATION: 73-625 Highway 111
ZONE: C-1
Phil Drell presented the revised plans for the elevator
noting that the tower has been moved creating enough room
for an exterior locked alcove.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by
Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the revised plans for
the elevator as submitted. Motion carried 4-0-1,
Commissioner Connor Abstaining.
3 . CASE NO. : 4577 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : RIOFINE NEON for DESERT
PRIMARY CARE, 3500 Tachevah, Suite D, Palm Springs, CA
92262
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage
LOCATION: 72-705 Highway 111, Unit 9
ZONE: C-1
Jeff Winklepleck outlined the proposed signs to be added
to the Great Western Bank building noting that the
applicant was requesting approval to add signage reading
"Desert Primary Care" facing the Highway 111 . The
applicant indicated that at this time the property owner
had only approved the non-illuminated parking lot sign
with 12" upper case and 9" lower case individual letters .
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by
Commissioner Connor, to approve the non-illuminated
parking lot sign only. Motion carried 5-0 .
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4 . CASE NO. : 4580 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LITECO SIGNS for SCREENS -
BLINDS, ETC. , 27-300 Hopper Road, Desert Hot Springs, A
92240
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to install
two lit cabinet signs in front of existing awning
LOCATION: 74-115 Highway 111
ZONE: C-1
The applicant was not present. Steve Smith presented the
proposed drawings indicating that the applicant was
seeking approval to add two 2 ' x 5 ' lit cabinet signs
reading "Screens" and "Blinds ETC" on the front of an
existing awning.
Action:
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by
Commissioner Connor to continue the request as the
commission felt the proposed can signs were not an
acceptable solution. Motion carried 5-0 .
**Note. . .Commissioner O'Donnell left meeting at 1 :00 p.m.
5 . CASE NO. : TT 27770-1 TT 23229
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SHEFFIELD WHITEHAWK LLC, 3400
Central Avenue, Suite 325, Riverside, CA 92506
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final
working drawings for new phase of Whitehawk
LOCATION: Whitehawk - south side of Country Club Drive
between Washington Street and Oasis Club Drive
ZONE: R-1 8,000
Steve Smith presented the final working drawings along
with a letter from Firestone Management. Jeff
Winklepleck indicated that the preliminary plans were
conditioned to show all "S" type roof tiles and that the
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final working drawings did not call this out. The
applicant, Dave Sheffield, indicated that he did not
change the reference on the plans to all "S" tiles but
that he definitely would be using all "S" tiles as
previously conditioned. Mr. Sheffield also presented a
color palette showing the size and colors of the "S"
tiles to be used. He indicated that he had already
spoken to the representative for the existing homeowners
and that they had agreed on the concrete "S" roof tiles
as shown. Mr. Sheffield added that the roof tile colors
would be as close as possible across the street from the
existing homes and blend into the other tile colors on
the remainder of the streets .
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Chairman
Gregory, to approve the final working drawings subject to
the following conditions :
1) All roof tiles to be concrete "S" tiles
to match existing roof tiles;
2) Roof tiles A and B to be used on the
first street adjacent to the existing
homes with a mixture of all the "S"
tiles used throughout the remainder of
the homes .
Motion carried 4-0
6 . CASE NO. : 410 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SGPA ARCHITECTURE AND PLANNING
for OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE, 1545 Hotel Circle South, San
Diego, CA 92108
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Review of perimeter
neon tubing
LOCATION: Waring Plaza
ZONE: P.C. (3)
Steve Smith reported that the preliminary plans showed a
neon tube around the upper perimeter of the building but
that it was not shown on the final plans . He added that
the neon tube was originally subject to being recessed.
Mr. Smith then outlined the parapet detail .
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Action:
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by
Commissioner Connor, to approve the perimeter neon tubing
subject to the block along the bottom having dimensions
of 2" x 6" rather than 2" x 2" as proposed. Motion
carried 4-0 .
7 . CASE NO. : CUP 88-12
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : MARRIOTT OWNERSHIP RESORTS,
INC. , Post Office Box 12757, Palm Desert, CA 92255
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
architectural plans for sales center and resort
operations building
LOCATION: Southwest corner of Cook Street and Riviera
Drive
ZONE: PR-4
Jeff Winklepleck presented the final working drawings for
the sales center and the resort operations building
stating that the plans were consistent with the approved
preliminary plans.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by
Commissioner Connor, to approve the final architectural
plans subject to the buildings meeting the required
setbacks . Motion carried 4-0 .
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B. Preliminary Plans :
1 . CASE NO. : TT 28258
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : KAUFMANN AND BROAD OF SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA, INC. , 180 No. Riverview Drive, Suite 300,
Anaheim Hills, CA 92808
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: North side of Frank
Sinatra Drive, approximately 1325 feet west of Portola
Avenue
LOCATION: North side of Frank Sinatra Drive,
approximately 1325 feet west of Portola Avenue
ZONE: PR-5
Jeff Winklepleck presented the plans noting that there
was an additional floor plan, additional square footage,
added window reliefs, arches and some changes to a side
entry garage. Chairman Gregory noted his concerns with
the amount of hardscape in front with the revised side
entry garages . Commissioner Holden felt that there
should always be more than ten feet between two homes
when there are overhangs to allow enough room for trees
to grow and provide access for maintenance of the side
yards . The representative for the applicant, Jack
Reimer, indicated that the reason for the large side
yards was to allow for driving and parking recreational
vehicles in the side yards . Commissioner Van Vliet felt
that the roofs needed to be changed to hip roofs or
increase the 5 ' side yard set backs .
Commissioner Holden noted the earlier discussions
regarding lack of shade protection on the rear elevations
where there were windows and sliding glass doors with
only 30" overhangs . Mr. Reimer indicated that they have
options available for patios that cover the entire back
side. Mr. Drell indicated that the heights range from
13 ' to 17-1/2 ' .
Commissioner Van Vliet felt that the elevations should
all be changed to hip roofs or increase the 5 ' side yard
setbacks . Chairman Gregory discussed his concerns with
the 2 and 1 driveways as he felt it would look like a
parking lot in front of the house and it does not leave
enough room for proper landscaping to soften the area.
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Chairman Gregory felt that on a dense housing tract such
as this, they really need as much landscaping as possible
to help soften it. Mr. Reimer indicated that he could
flip the plans if two houses with the 2 and 1 driveways
were sold next to each other, putting the driveways on
the opposite sides of the houses .
Chairman Gregory asked staff what the city' s policy was
on parking recreational vehicles in a side yard. Mr.
Winklepleck indicated that as long as a vehicle is moved
every 72 hours, they legally can park anywhere.
Commissioner Connor asked if a lot could be dedicated in
the development just for recreational vehicle parking.
Mr. Winklepleck did not know if this was something that
could be conditioned at this time. Chairman Gregory felt
that he could not approve the plans knowing that all the
front yards could be paved for access to the back yard
for R.V. parking. Commissioner Holden agreed and felt
that open space between houses was for landscaping, not
R.V. parking. He suggested that the commission ask the
architect for a solution to the R.V. issue. Mr. Reimer
indicated that he would like to discuss with the
developer the importance of the side yards for R.V.
parking and return back to the commission with a
solution. Commissioner Van Vliet felt that within the
10 ' side yard setbacks there should not be two gable
roofs next to each other.
Commissioner Holden felt that the units presented today
were acceptable but still would need to see a site plan.
Mr. Reimer indicated that he would prepare a site plan
and bring it back to the commission.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by
Chairman Gregory, to approve the revised preliminary
building elevations subject to the following conditions :
1) No two gable roofs next to each other;
2) Provide an acceptable solution for recreational
vehicle parking;
3) Provide a site plan showing the unit
configurations .
Motion carried 4-0 .
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V. ADJOURNMENT:
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner
Connor, to adjourn the meeting at 1 :40 p.m. Motion carried
4-0 .
It was moved by Chairman Gregory, seconded by Commissioner
Connor, to adjourn the meeting of December 26 , 1995 to
January 9 , 1996 due to a lack of quorum. Motion carried 4-0 .
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