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PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 28, 1995
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I . CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 12 : 15 p.m.
Commissioners Present: Current Meetinq Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Richard Holden X 11 0
Frank Urrutia X 10 1
Chris Van Vliet X 11 0
Wayne Connor X 11 0
Richard 0'Donnell X 11 0
Ronald Gregory X 9 2
Staff Present: Phil Drell
Steve Smith
Steve Buchanan
Daisy Garcia
Donna Bitter
II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by
Commissioner Connor, to approve the minutes of the
February 14, 1995 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 5-0 .
III . It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner
Connor, to approve the following cases by minute motion.
Motion carried 5-0.
A. Final Drawings :
1 . CASE NO. : PP 92-5
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LOWE ENTERPRISES, INC. for
DESERT CROSSING, 11777 San Vicente Blvd. , Suite 900, Los
Angeles, CA 90049; MCG & ASSOCIATES, 200 So. Los Robles
Avenue, Suite 300, Pasadena, CA 91101-8461
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of:
1) Landscape plan for C.V.W.D. booster station; 2 ) Final
working drawings for Major 1, Retail F, Pad D, and
Major 6
LOCATION: Desert Crossing - Southeast corner of Fred
Waring Drive and Highway 111
ZONE: P.C. (2 )
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Phil Drell presented the landscape plans for the booster
station noting that the east side of the project was not
landscaped because it would be the parking lot for the
child day care center. The landscape plans will be
provided when the plans for the day care center are
submitted. Mr. Drell noted that the day care center is
a condition of this project and would definitely be
built.
Commissioner Urrutia discussed his concerns with not
knowing where the hillside ends in this area. Mr. Rob
Parker, of Gregory and Associates, indicated that the
trench line is right at the base of the slope.
Commissioner Urrutia felt that it was still unclear as to
where the boundaries are. Mr. Drell noted that the area
is actually landscaped outside the property line on the
mountain side. Commissioner Connor suggested that
commission allows them to transition the landscaping into
the mountain and make sure that a site inspection is done
when the applicant proposes the day care center to make
sure the landscaping transition was done properly.
Commission reviewed the final working drawings for
Major 1, Retail F, Pad D, and Major 6 .
Commission approved the landscape plan for the booster
station subject to a site inspection, once the applicant
proposes the day care center, to insure the transition of
landscaping into the mountain side. Commission also
' approved the final working drawings for Major 1,
Retail F, Pad D, and Major 6 as submitted.
2 . CASE NO. : TT 24539
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : DENNIS CUNNINGHAM c/o CENTURY
HOMES for BELMONTE ESTATES, 1535 So. "D" Street, Suite
200, San Bernardino, CA 92408
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
landscape plans
LOCATION: Northeast corner of Hovley Lane and Cook
Street
ZONE: PR-9 S.P.
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Commission reviewed the final landscape plans and
approved the same subject to adding a shrub bed between
the garage units, against the tie-in walls .
B. Preliminary Plans :
1. CASE NO. : PP 94-7
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : F & M ASSOCIATES for DEEP
CANYON PLAZA, 2041 San Remo Drive, Laguna Beach, CA
92651
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval
of architecture and landscaping for an 81,747 square foot
retail shopping center
LOCATION: Northeast corner of Deep Canyon Drive and
Highway 111
ZONE: Proposed P.C. (2 )
Mr. Mike Mahoney outlined the revised preliminary plans
showing how the side elements were brought around to the
front of the stores to make more of a walk way. He also
showed how the revised plans softened the parking lot,
the additional landscaping around the loading docks, and
how the berm would screen the trucks in the loading area.
Commissioner Urrutia discussed his concerns with the west
elevation not being addressed as he hoped it would be.
He felt that something needed to be done with the
building on the south half of the west elevation to help
break up the long horizontal parapet line. Commissioner
Urrutia also indicated that the front of the project was
much better. Commissioner Connor asked if the outside
perimeter of the building had to be all the same height.
Mr. Mahoney replied that some variation could be done in
the height but indenting was not possible. Commissioner
Connor suggested stepping the top parapet back some to
try to tone down the massiveness of the building. Mr.
Tim Bartlett indicated that it was his understanding that
the tower elements were under no height restrictions .
Mr. Drell explained that the maximum height allowed in a
P.C. (4) zone is 30 ' , however, there is an exception
process for the towers in a shopping center.
Commissioner Holden noted that the proposed tower height
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was at 46 ' . Mr. Drell noted that 46 ' high was on the
higher side, but the height would be based on what type
of architectural impact you want. Mr. Smith noted that
the tower elements on the west side would be
approximately 230 ' from Deep Canyon and approximately
400 ' from Highway 111 . Commissioner Urrutia suggested
that the applicant consider dropping the height of the
end elements some as they are the closest to you.
Commissioners Connor and O'Donnell felt that this
suggestion would address some of their concerns .
Commissioner Connor discussed his concerns with the queen
palms at the front of the project noting that they were
not in proper scale and would not do well in the
reflective heat from the parking lot.
Commissioner Holden noted that the last time this site
came through with a proposed project there was a car wash
with a gas station on the corner and the only way another
car wash/gas station would be considered is if it met the
same requirements of the last proposed center. He noted
his concerns with not knowing what the satellite pads
would be. Mr. Smith indicated that the applicant would
have to go through a precise plan review at the time they
want to propose these three pads .
Commission granted conceptual approval to the
architectural plans only subject to the following
conditions :
1) Stepping the top parapet back some on the south end
of the west elevation to tone down the massiveness
of the building;
2) Replace queen palms in front as they are not in
proper scale and will not survive the reflective
heat;
3) Reduce corner tower elements and restudy the south
half of the west elevation to reduce the long
horizontal parapet line;
4 ) Provide detailed landscape plan.
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C. Miscellaneous:
1. CASE NO. : TT 27561
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : DESERT SOUTHWEST DEVELOPERS,
INC. for HOVLEY COURT, Post Office Box 10179, Palm
Desert, CA 92255; STOFFREGEN FULLER & ASSOCIATES,
73-725 E1 Paseo, Suite 23E, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of two
18 ' 8" homes (Plan 3)
LOCATION: South side of Hovley Lane, west of Portola
Avenue
ZONE: R-1
Mr. Smith reported that there were two homes currently
under construction that will exceed the height limit once
the roof tiles were applied. He indicated that the grade
transitions down from Hovley at this location. Mr. Smith
noted that the PR zoning allows up to 24 ' on 2-story
units, but these are 1-story so we try to keep them at
18 ' . The applicant, Mr. Jim Dumas of A & M Builders,
assured the commission that a new elevation plan would be
presented to insure that all future plans are under 18 ' .
Commission approved the plans for the two homes under
construction in the PR zone at a maximum height of 18 ' 8"
as the units were on the lower portion of the site and
commission did not find them offensive.
2 . CASE NO. : 397 C
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : MR. PAUL GRAVES for COLONY
CABLEVISION, 41-725 Cook Street, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Reconsideration of
dish antenna located on the building roof
LOCATION: 41-725 Cook Street
ZONE: S. I .
Mr. Smith reported that a satellite dish had been
installed approximately one year ago at this location
without a permit. The applicant is now before the
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commission to ask for approval of the existing dish.
Mr. Graves presented a site plan and parking lot plan
showing where the dish was installed. He indicated that
his goal was to get the dish as close to the studio as
possible to get the best picture. Commissioner Urrutia
asked if he had looked into some type of screening of the
roof mounted dish. Mr. Graves indicated that the dish
could be painted to match the color of the building.
Commissioner Urrutia discussed the alternative of moving
the dish to a parking space or two and Mr. Graves
indicated that the dish would work from the parking area
Commissioner Urrutia was suggesting. Commissioner
Urrutia noted that the dish, at its existing location,
did not fit the aesthetic guidelines the city has
established for everyone. Mr. Smith noted that the
streets in the industrial area are private streets and
the ordinance deals with an aesthetic view from a public
street. Cook Street is a public street.
Commissioner Holden noted that normally you can see only
half of the dish above the parapet, but you can see the
entire dish where it sits now. Mr. Smith suggested
placing the dish on the back of the 2-story building.
Commissioner Holden felt that the dish at this suggested
location would still be as high but would not be seen as
much from Cook Street.
Commission continued the request directing the applicant
to mount a mock-up of the antenna on the west side of the
building, adjacent to the 2nd story, and contact staf f to
inform commission when it is up and ready for inspection
as a possible relocation for the existing dish.
IV. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 1 : 35 p.m.
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