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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-08-27 Y t MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 27, 1996 ***************************************************************** I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12 :30 p.m. Commissioners Present : Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Richard Holden X 21 2 Frank Urrutia X 21 2 Chris Van Vliet X 21 2 Wayne Connor X 20 3 Richard O'Donnell (excused) X 19 4 Ronald Gregory (excused) X 19 4 Staff Present : Steve Smith Steve Buchanan Martin Alvarez Daisy Garcia Donna Bitter II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the minutes of the August 13 , 1996 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 3-0-1, Commissioner Van Vliet Abstaining. III. CASES• A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO. : 4692 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : CALIFORNIA SIGN CO. for CIRCLE K, 1468 No. Magnolia Avenue, El Cajon, CA 92020 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of illuminated single-face cabinet sign to advertise an ATM inside the store LOCATION: 44-775 San Pablo Avenue ZONE• C-1 Martin Alvarez presented the drawings and photos of the proposed ATM sign in red, white and blue . He indicated that the sign is 6' x 214" with 6" letters . Commission discussed the total square footage allowed for signage . Commissioner Holden felt that the copy was acceptable but that the sign seemed too large for the location. MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 27, 1996 Commissioner Urrutia agreed and asked if the blue border could be narrowed down some. The representative for the applicant, Jacob Hubb, indicated that it was a stock cabinet sign with a face that slides in, and therefore the entire sign would have to be reduced. Action• It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the sign subject to it being a maximum height of 18" . The copy, colors, and 6" letters were approved as submitted. Motion carried 4-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : 4683 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : CALIFORNIA SIGN CO. for CIRCLE K, 1468 No. Magnolia Avenue, El Cajon, CA 92020 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of illuminated single-face cabinet wall sign to advertise an ATM inside the store LOCATION: 45-200 Portola Avenue ZONE• C-1 Martin Alvarez presented the drawings and photos of the proposed ATM sign in red, white and blue . He indicated that the sign is 6' x 214" with 6" letters . Commission discussed the total square footage allowed for signage . Commissioner Holden felt that the copy was acceptable but that the sign seemed too large for the location. Commissioner Urrutia agreed and asked if the blue border could be narrowed down some . The representative for the applicant, Jacob Hubb, indicated that it was a stock cabinet sign with a face that slides in, and therefore the entire sign would have to be reduced. Action• It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the sign subject to it being a maximum height of 18" . The copy, colors, and 6" letters were approved as submitted. Motion carried 4-0 . 2 w+, MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 27, 1996 3 . CASE NO. : 4694 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for OMRI & BONI, 69 Pinyon Pines, Mountain Center, CA 92561 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awnings with signage LOCATION: 73-675 Highway 111 ZONE• C-1 The representative for the applicant, Ernie Brooks, indicated that the request was for approval of one awning along the front of the building reading "Omri & Boni" three times and one awning on the back parking lot side of the building reading "Omri & Boni" . Action• It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the awnings with signage subject to wrapping the front facia strip around the north side of the building to end flush against the wall . Motion carried 4-0 . 4 . CASE NO. : 4696 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN CO. , INC. for FITZHENRY FUNERAL HOME, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of monument signage LOCATION: Northeast corner of San Pablo Avenue and San Gorgonio Avenue ZONE• R-3 Steve Smith presented pictures of the proposed signage as well as photographs of the property. The representative for the applicant, Jim Engle, indicated that the initial thought was to use a rock with sandblasted copy, but that this was cost prohibited to the applicant . He added that they are now wanting to use a redwood material, giving it some depth and painting it to make it to look like a rock, with the sandblasted signage . 3 'ft.r MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 27, 1996 Commissioner Urrutia asked if the signage would be lit . Mr. Engle indicated that the signage would not be lit but that the applicant may come back in the future and ask to add some landscape lighting. Commissioner Holden questioned the redwood material as to how it would weather. Mr. Engle indicated that he wanted to use an anti-graffiti coat on it as well . He added that the one sign on San Pablo Avenue will be single faced but the other sign going into the complex would be double faced. Commissioner Urrutia added his concerns with making the redwood material thick enough to look like stone . Commissioner Connor asked why the signage had to look like stone . Mr. Engle replied that they were trying to make it look non-commercial . Commissioner Holden felt that it was going to be very difficult to make a wood sign that looks like a rock and would rather see a sand blasted sign than a sign made to look like a rock with sand blasted signage . Commissioner Urrutia suggested that the applicant meet with Michael Watling as he is the artist who has done all the rock signage around the city. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the signage as submitted using actual rock. Motion carried 4-0 . 5 . CASE NO. : 431 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : JAMES CIOFFI ARCHITECT for McDONALD' S, 2121 E . Tahquitz Canyon Way, Suite 3 , Palm Springs, CA 92262 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of plans to enclose existing outdoor dining area LOCATION: Palms to Pines Shopping Center ZONE: P.C. (3) Martin Alvarez presented the floor plan and material sample board with the proposed plans to enclose the patio and dining area. Mr. Steve Buchanan asked if there was a property line condition with McDonald' s and Arby' s . If so, a one-hour fire resistive assembly would be needed. The applicant, James Cioffi, indicated that he knew of the condition as that there is a property line issue that will be addressed. 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 27, 1996 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the plans to enclose the existing outdoor dining area with the condition that the property owner address the property line issue with the department of building and safety. Motion carried 4-0 . 6 . CASE NO. : 4698 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : LNI CUSTOM MANUFACTURING for MANHATTAN BAGEL, 12536 Chadron Avenue, Hawthorne, CA 90250 ; CHURCHILL MANAGEMENT GROUP, 73-061 El Paseo, Suite 205, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage LOCATION: 73-080 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 Martin Alvarez presented a colored rendering noting that the applicant was asking approval to replace the existing awning. Mr. Smith indicated that it would extend out 5 feet . Commissioner Urrutia asked about the ends of the awning. The applicant, Terry McCartney, indicated that the ends of the awning would end flush against the wall . Commissioner Urrutia felt that the signage on the east side of the awning would not be visible . He added that the awning should not project out any further than the awning to the east at The Vault . Commissioner Holden questioned the shininess of the fabric . Ms . McCartney indicated that the awning would be a flat canvas burgundy awning with vinyl letters . Mr. Smith informed the applicant that the maximum size allowed for letters on an awning is 8 inches . Commission discussed the letter size and determined that the I'M, N, B & L" could be 9" high with the remainder of the signage at 811 . 5 Nftoo MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 27, 1996 Action• It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commission Connor, to approve the awning with the following conditions : 1) Awning not to extend out further than the awning to the east (The Vault) ; and 2) Maximum letter height at 8" with the capital M, N, B & L at 9" . 7 . CASE NO. : 4699 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : BABY HEAVEN, 73-200 El paseo, Suite 4A, Palm Desert, CA 92260 ; CHURCHILL MANAGEMENT GROUP, 73-061 El Paseo, Suite 205, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to recover three existing awnings and additional wood sign LOCATION: 73-200 E1 Paseo, Suite 4A ZONE• C-1 Martin Alvarez presented photos of the building along with a material sample . The applicant showed how the existing awnings would be recovered in yellow and where existing signs would be moved. Action• It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the awnings and signage as submitted. Motion carried 4-0 . B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO. : PP 96-7 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ALFRED VOLLENWEIDER, 1750 Kalakawa Avenue, Honolulu, HI 96826; DAVID NELSON, Post Office Box 10329, Palm Desert, CA 92255 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised preliminary architectural plans for two four-plex apartment buildings LOCATION: 45-480 and 45-484 Abronia Trail 6 *"P- ;, MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 27, 1996 ZONE• R-3 Steve Smith presented the revised plans noting that the commission asked that the applicant provide access to the rear yards and to create wider access to the parking spaces . The representative for the applicant, David Nelson, showed where the garages had been pushed out at each end, where the patios on the end units were moved to the ends of the building, and added pop-outs on the front and side windows . He also indicated that a landscape plan would be included with the working drawings . Action• It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the revised preliminary plans subject to the following conditions : 1) The patios on the end units moved to the ends of the building; and 2) The distance between the garages on the ground level to be 25 feet; and 3) Extend exterior trim over the garage doors to align with the second floor line . Motion carried 4-0 . C. Miscellaneous: 1. CASE NO. • APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : CELESTE VELASQUEZ, 44-160 San Pablo Avenue, Apartment A, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of placement of chain link fence LOCATION: 44-160 San Pablo Avenue, Apartment A ZONE• R-3 Steve Smith reported that the applicant was asking for an exception to the ordinance as the city typically does not allow chain link fences in front yards . Mr. Alvarez explained that the fence has already been constructed by a fence company and that the applicant had received approval from the property owner to construct the fence to keep her child from running out onto San Pablo Avenue . She was not aware of the permit process . 7 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AUGUST 27, 1996 The applicant, Celeste Velasquez, explained to the commission that the fence was installed for the security of her children. Mr. Alvarez explained that the fence meets the code requirements such as setbacks and height limits . Commissioner Connor suggested painting it out black so the fence would not be as noticeable . Action• It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the existing chain link fence subject to the following conditions : 1) Applicant to provide either a letter of approval or signature of property owner on the application indicating that he has no problem with the fence; and 2) Applicant agrees to inform the city in writing when she is moving from the property because the fence is an exception. Property owner will have to remove the fence once she is gone . Motion carried 4-0 . 2 . Discussion of architectural issues for One-Eleven Town Center/Best Buy Electronics. This item was continued by staff as the plans had not been received. IV. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 1 : 30 p.m. STEVE SMITH PLANNING MANAGER SS/db 8