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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-06-11 MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 ***************************************************************** I . CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12 : 30 p.m. Commissioners Present: Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Richard Holden X 17 1 Frank Urrutia X 16 2 Chris Van Vliet X 16 2 Wayne Connor X 15 3 Richard O'Donnell X 18 0 Ronald Gregory X 16 2 Staff Present: Steve Smith Steve Buchanan Daisy Garcia Donna Bitter II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the minutes of the May 28, 1996 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 4-0-2, Commissioners Connor and Van Vliet Abstaining. III. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1 . CASE NO. : 4654 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : IMPERIAL SIGN CO. , INC. for MUSASHI, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 72-785 Highway 111, Suite B-4 ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith presented the drawings for the proposed business signage indicating that the business is located in the Palms to Pines Shopping Center which previously housed Anderson Travel . He indicated that the proposed sign would be red and that there were no other red signs in the center. The adjacent businesses are The Village Lounge with white signage and Humphreys Yogart with green signage. " 2 r ' MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 Action: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the business identification signage as submitted. Motion carried 6-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : 4656 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : PRICE CLUB, 72-800 Dinah Shore, Palm Desert, CA 92211 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of additional business identification signage LOCATION: 72-800 Dinah Shore ZONE: P.C. (3) Steve Smith presented the proposed signage indicating that it would be installed on the north elevation. He noted that it would exceed the 20 foot height limit but at 20 feet, it would not be visible because it is along the side of the railroad tracks along Interstate 10 . Commissioner Urrutia agreed and felt that the signage still would not be visible as proposed. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the additional business identification signage as submitted. Motion carried 6-0 . 3. CASE NO. : 4658 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : AMERICAWEST SIGNS & NEON for BANK OF AMERICA, 42-170 Sarah Way, Temecula, CA 92590 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of wall mounted bank identification signage LOCATION: 42-095 Washington Street ZONE: P.C. (2) 2 Nftlp` '1040le MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 Steve Smith presented the drawings for the proposed signage stating that pursuant to recent ordinance amendments the sign is allowed but they will have to take down some of their existing signage. He added that the ordinance states that the signage must be consistent with the existing signage. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve one "Bank of America" sign subject to the removal of one of the existing secondary business signs in order to meet the ordinance requirements . Staff to grant final approval on size and color. Motion carried 6-0 . 4. CASE NO. : 4659 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : ULTRANEON SIGN COMPANY for JUICE POWER, 5458 Complex Street, Suite 401, San Diego, CA 92123 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of non- conforming business identification signage LOCATION: Desert Crossing Shopping Center ZONE: P.C. (3) Steve Smith presented the drawings for the proposed signage indicating that it would be located west of Pearl Vision in the Desert Crossing Shopping Center. He indicated that the fuscia was not an approved color for the center but asked that the commission approve the graphics . Mr. Smith noted that the top sign was 36 square feet and the bottom one was at 24 square feet, and therefore it may need to be reduced in size. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the business identification signage subject to it conforming to the center's approved colors and size. Motion carried 6-0 . 3 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 B. Preliminary Plans : 1. CASE NO. : TT 24984-2 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : FOXX DEVELOPMENT CORP. for THE GROVE, 73-111 El Paseo, Suite 200, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised preliminary elevations and landscaping plans for two model homes in the final phase of The Grove LOCATION: The Grove ZONE: PR-5 Steve Smith presented the revised elevations for the two model homes along with floor plans for the two units which staff received the day before. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the revised plans did not show any changes from the preliminary plans presented at the last meeting. The applicant, Mr. Jim Foxx, outlined the pop- outs and column details to match the existing units . Commissioner Urrutia felt that there were other units in the subdivision that have more interesting details . Mr. Foxx indicated that the home buyer will have a lot of different variations to choose from as Plan 1 will have 14 different elevations with Plan 2 having 21 different elevations . Commissioner Connor noted that Eric Johnson questioned the compatibility with the existing landscaping. Mr. Foxx indicated that all the plant material was compatible. Mr. Smith asked about the dead palm trees there now. Mr. Foxx replied the landscape maintenance district that is responsible have not maintained them. Commissioner Holden indicated that the condition originally placed on The Grove plans regarding solar protection in the way of overhangs or landscaping on the east and west elevations should be implemented on this phase as well . 4 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to grant final approval of the elevations and landscaping plans for the two model units only subject to the applicant incorporating adequate solar protection on the east and west elevations . Motion carried 6-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : PP/CUP 96-5 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : RICK MURO for PINNACLE ATHLETIC CLUB, 73-462 Shadow Mountain Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of preliminary architectural and landscaping plans LOCATION: 72-960 Fred Waring Drive ZONE: O.P. Steve Smith presented the plans noting that the matter will be before the planning commission on June 18th for approval of the precise plan and use. He noted that the property is zoned O.P. The building is being designed only for a health club facility on three floors, two above ground. MS. DIANA LAMAR, property owner at 43-827 Acacia Drive, was present and addressed the commission. She indicated that she was impressed with the surrounding southwest style architecture that had been used on the office buildings in the area as well as the landscaping and felt that the massive architecture of the proposed building did not conform with the surrounding buildings . Commissioner Gregory asked that discussions on the architecture be held over until the applicant and architect arrive. Commission re-addressed this item at the end of the agenda as the applicant still had not arrived at 1 :45 p.m. Mr. Smith informed the commission that it was a 25 ' high structure with two stories above ground and one story below ground. Mr. Buchanan indicated that the day 5 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 care center in the basement could not be approved. Commissioner Holden indicated that there are no other buildings along Fred Waring Drive that are two stories where the two story elements stayed the same along the entire building. He added that there was an 8 ' side yard that is 120 feet long on the north side of the building that will eventually become a storage area as he felt it would not be landscaping that will be maintained. Commissioner Connor felt that the building lacked undulation and detail . Mr. Smith indicated that the building was 30% over on the lot coverage for the parking provided. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the use could dictate a very fun type of architecture but he did not think it did in this case. He felt that it was too massive and too boxy and that it looked like a warehouse that had been embellished some. Commissioner Urrutia added that being two stories and seeing the roof line at the second level with no horizontal break-ups did not help either. Commissioner Urrutia discussed his concerns with the lack of parking because of his experience being directly across the street from the Sports Club in Palm Desert. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to continue the request to allow the applicant to revise the plans addressing their concerns as indicated above. Motion carried 5-0-1, Commissioner Gregory Abstaining. 3 . CASE NO. : CUP 96-18 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : McFADDEN & McINTOSH ARCHITECTS for CAM'S CORNER, 73-929 Larrea, Suite 1A, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of preliminary architectural and landscaping plans for fuel station/convenience store LOCATION: Northwest corner of Highway 111 and Deep Canyon Road 6 1%.r Nftovl MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith reported that the request would be going before the planning commission on July 2nd. The project is located at the northwest corner of Deep Canyon and Highway 111 with the new Lucky' s project on the east side and Dennis Goedecke and other offices on the north side. There is no direct access from Highway 111 but there will be a redesign in the form of a super block and customers will have to drive down Allessandro to enter the project. Mr. Smith indicated that there were 28 parking spaces on site which is consistent with what was done at Portolla Avenue. He added that the developer reviewed the plans for Luckys and used some of the same architectural treatments and colors . Mr. Smith informed the commission that he met with Dennis Goedecke and the owner of Country Club Liquor across the street and determined that they will need to redesign the Allessandro side of the building to look like the front of the building. He added that there was concern with the exterior access of the restroom but that the sheriffs department is stating that the access needs to be from inside the convenience or video store. The applicant, Chris McFadden, indicated that there had been a letter of amendments submitted. He noted that the project has three frontages and he has opened up all three sides . He added that the entire project is fully landscaped and the outside restroom access will be eliminated. Mr. McFadden indicated that the parking would be sufficient because of the non-habital space that will be included. He showed how and where the fuel tankers would access the project from Allessandro and leave out onto Highway 111 . Commissioner Gregory asked to hear from the neighbors in attendance. Mr. Dennis Goedecke noted that he had a number of concerns but that the biggest is on the north side of the building. He reminded the commission of the core area specific plan insuring that the buildings along Allessandro look like the front of the buildings . He felt that this issue still needed to be addressed because there is parking on the Allessandro side. His other concern was how the project will look when entering Palm Desert and felt that it was very important to know who 7 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 the supplier was . Mr. Goedecke also discussed his concerns with the architecture and the size of a 6,000 square foot building on this lot size. Another concern of Mr. Goedecke was the outside access to the restrooms which he was told the sheriffs department was handling. Commissioner Connor felt that from a landscaping point of view it appears to be under landscaped on all three street frontages and the project did not meet parking requirements as far as parking lot shade trees . He added that he would like to see some of the landscaping from the new Lucky' s center carried over to this project. Commissioner Connor added that there is no tree planting on Highway 111 and thought that trees here would help soften the center. He added his concerns with the site planning at the introduction of Palm Desert. Commissioner Holden noted that when there was a gas station proposed for across the street the commission said that it would have to be totally screened. He did not see how the proper screening of the cars would take place because there was not enough landscaping and hated to see a sea of asphalt and cars at the entrance to the city. Commissioner Holden discussed his concerns with the traffic problems on Allessandro when the tanker trucks try to enter the project. He did not see how the tanker truck entrance on Allessandro would work being so close to a major intersection. Commissioner Connor indicated that the landscape strips were so narrow that it would be difficult to do anything with landscaping. Mr. McFadden reminded the commission that it was not a pedestrian site and the issue was to address the vehicle traffic. Commissioner O'Donnell discussed his concerns with the parking congestion that would be created. He also did not want to see all the asphalt and cars at the entrance to the city as the landscaping was not enough to screen the project. Commissioner Van Vliet felt that the Allessandro side was too tight and could dictate moving the building some. Mr. McFadden indicated that they would have to cut some of the square footage off the building. Commissioner Van Vliet added that the 25 foot high canopy was another concern and felt that it should be less visible. 8 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 Commissioner Urrutia indicated that most of his concerns were the same as already mentioned but felt that one of the things that should be considered is reversing the location of the canopy. He felt that aesthetically a lot more could be done with what the building would look like from the corner if it were reversed on the site. Mr. McFadden disagreed with commission and felt that the canopy was well integrated. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the canopy was done very well but was just concerned with what you will see as you come into the city. Commissioner Gregory felt that changing the building location would help the situation with the narrow landscaping islands . He felt that if the canopy could be shortened some it would allow for more room to beef up the landscaping. Mr. McFadden indicated that moving the building was not an option in his opinion. Mr. Goedecke felt that the applicant is eating up a lot of space with the deli and video store and wondered if these two uses were important. He added that these extra uses are taking away areas that would allow for more lavish landscaping. Commissioner Connor asked to see the landscaping plans for Luckys center approved for across the street noting that the new Lucky' s has a very generous landscaping treatment at the corner which is opposite of what is proposed here. Commissioner O'Donnell encouraged the applicant to restudy the idea of reversing the building on the site plan. Commissioner Holden agreed and added that if the building is not reversed on the site plan as they suggested than the landscaping would have to be beefed up considerably. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to continue the request to allow the applicant to restudy the site plan addressing the following issues: 1) Redesign elevation along Allessandro Drive to look like the front of the building; 2) Landscaping to be beefed up on all three street frontages as well as conform to the city' s shade tree parking lot requirements . Landscaping needs to be more compatible with the Lucky' s center across the street; 9 'k MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JUNE 11, 1996 3) Traffic situation when fuel trucks enter the project; 4) Proper screening to eliminate the view of extensive asphalt and cars at the entrance to the city; 5) Restudy site plan to consider reversing the location of the canopy. Motion carried 6-0. C. Miscellaneous : 1. CASE NO. : APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : SUNLITE DEVELOPMENT, INC. for LOVIN RESIDENCE, Post Office Box 10668, Palm Desert, CA 92255 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of plans for single family residence exceeding 15 foot height limit LOCATION: Corner of Della Robbia Lane and Crosby Lane ZONE: Steve Smith presented the plans stating that it is in Ironwood Country Club and not a part of any homeowners association. Action• It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the plans for the single family residence as submitted. Motion carried 6-0 . IV. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 2 :05 p.m. 26z��- z STEVE SMITH PLANNING MANAGER SS/db 10