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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-05-28 S � � � MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 ***************************************************************** I . CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12 : 30 p.m. Commissioners Present: Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Richard Holden X 16 1 Frank Urrutia X 15 2 Chris Van Vliet X 15 2 Wayne Connor (excused) X 14 3 Richard 0'Donnell X 17 0 Ronald Gregory X 15 2 Staff Present: Steve Smith Daisy Garcia Donna Bitter II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the minutes of the May 14, 1996 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 4-0. III . CASES: A. Final Drawinqs : 1 . CASE NO. : 4646 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : STEVEN W. DELATEUR, ATTORNEY AT LAW, for PALOMINO RESTAURANT, 42-600 Cook Street, Suite 205, Palm Desert, CA 92211-5143; PALOMINO RESTAURANT, 73-101 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of additional business identification signage LOCATION: 73-101 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith presented the proposed plans for a revised free standing sign indicating that the applicant is working with the public works department in order to locate it in the public right-of-way. He indicated that any approval would be subject to receiving an encroachment permit from public works . Mr. Smith added that the applicant is also asking to add a new sign at the front of the restaurant. : � ,�r'' �,,,�r MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 Commissioner Urrutia questioned the need for a "V" shaped sign out front when one double sided sign would do the same thing. Commissioner O'Donnell agreed. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the signage changes as requested subject to the new free standing sign being double sided instead of the "V" shape as submitted. Motion carried 4-0 . The applicant, Mr. Steven Delateur, arrived at the meeting late and asked why the commission chose to approve the double sided sign and not the "V" shape. Commissioner Urrutia indicated that they did not see the need for the "V" shape when the double sided sign does the same thing. He added that the "V" shape ends up being too massive visually. Commissioner Holden added that you usually end up seeing the back of the "V" shape signs . 2 . CASE NO. : 4647 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : KAY PHELPS for SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY CHURCH, 217 Vista Royale Circle West, Palm Desert, CA 92211 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of shade structure over picnic tables LOCATION: 73-251 Hovley Lane West ZONE• PR-5 Steve Smith presented the drawing for the proposed shade structure to be placed over the picnic tables on the west side of the building. He noted that the structure is the same as used in the civic center dog park. Mr. Smith indicated that staff ' s initial concern was how close it would be to the neighbors . He was informed that it would be at least 300 feet away at a height of 8 feet. 2 . ' �° � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Gregory, to approve the shade structure as submitted. Motion carried 4-0. 3. CASE NO. : 4648 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : RICK MURO for AEROBIC & FITNESS MART, 74-040 Highway 111, Suite B, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 74-040 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith presented the drawings for the 2 ' x 7 ' signage with blue and yellow lettering as well as the existing banner that has been strung up between two palm trees facing Highway 111 that will be placed on the building. Mr. Smith noted that the city council approved the temporary use for this location until 5eptember, 1996 and that the applicant is proceeding with building plans for the northwest corner of Fred Waring Drive and Monterey Avenue. Action: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the temporary signage as submitted. Motion carried 4-0 . 4 . CASE NO. : PP 94-7 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : THE NADEL PARTNERSHIP, INC. for LUCKY STORES, 1990 So. Bundy Drive, Fourth Floor, Los Angeles, CA 90025 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised final architectural working drawings LOCATION: Northeast corner of Highway 111 and Deep Canyon ZONE: P.C. (4 ) 3 ' �•+ ,� MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 Steve Smith presented the revised plans outlining the commission' s previous concerns . He indicated that the first issue was the roof mounted equipment and explained how the equipment was set back from the parapet showing that it would not be visible. Mr. Smith indicated that the detailed roof plan showed a higher parapet if necessary, but he recommended that they approve the lower parapet based on the line of sight drawings provided by the applicant. The second issue was the trellis on either side of the building. He showed how the trellis was extended 5 feet which would provide substantial shade for the cars . The third issue was the switch gear box on the west side of the building toward the rear. It has been totally enclosed with the architectural treatment taken to the parapet above. Commissioner 0'Donnell asked what the difference was on the parapet heights . Mr. Smith indicated that with the line of site drawings you can see that the higher parapets were not necessary. Staff is asking for approval of the lower parapets to avoid adding to the height of the building when it is not necessary. Ms . Herminia Popovici of Nadel Partnership, Inc. was present to answer any questions of the commission. Action: It was moved by Commissioner 0'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the final architectural working drawings with the lower parapets as submitted. Motion carried 4-0 . 5 . CASE NO. : CUP 96-12 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : MONTESSORI SCHOOL OF THE VALLEY, 42-250 Warner Trail, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised final elevations, fencing and landscaping plans LOCATION: 43-250 Warner Trail ZONE: R-1 4 ' � �.r � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 Steve Smith presented the plans asking Commissioner Gregory what type of fencing would be used. Commissioner Gregory indicated that it would be 5 ' masonry with 4 ' 6" steel in places because some of the neighbors want a solid fence and some want open. Mr. Smith indicated that the existing parking lot would remain as is . Commissioner Gregory indicated that the landscape plan was preliminary as he was not sure how the city wanted to handle the sidewalk on the right side. Mr. Smith indicated that the sidewalk issue would have to be addressed with the public works department. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner 0'Donnell, to approve the final elevations, fencing and preliminary landscaping plans subject to the following conditions : 1) That the plan specifies slump stone with pilasters on the solid portions of the wall; 2) Building elevations approved as submitted; 3) Landscaping plans subject to Eric Johnson' s review. Motion carried 3-0-1, Commissioner Gregory Abstaining 6. CASE NO. : 4650 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : AMERICAN AWNING CO. for HOT SHOTS, 44-489 Town Center Way, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning LOCATION: 73-170 El Paseo ZONE• C-1 Steve Smith presented the drawings for the proposed peach colored awning with no signage. Commissioner Urrutia indicated that there was an overhang on the building already and was curious what the awning was for. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Gregory, seconded by Commissioner 0'Donnell, to approve the awning as submitted without signage. Motion carried 4-0 . 5 ' �.w� � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 The applicant arrived late to the meeting with a request to add 8" black letters to the peach awning. � Action: Commissioners Gregory and 0'Donnell amended their action to include the 8" black letters as submitted on the awning. Motion carried 4-0. 7. CASE NO. : 424 C APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : AMERICAN PROPERTIES LLC for GENEVIEVE COURT APARTMENTS, 100 West Mesa Drive, Suite 214, Fullerton, CA 92635 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final working drawings for remodel of 15-unit apartment complex LOCATION: 73-555 San Gorgonio ZONE: R-3 Steve Smith reported that the item was placed on the agenda because the corrections from the building department were given to the applicant the week prior but that staff had not received the revised plans as yet. The architect for the applicant, Curtis Schupe, addressed the commission stating that he had the revised roof plan and exterior elevations with him. He showed how the raised parapet on the corners were raised 4 feet and extended around the building. Commissioner Urrutia asked about the undulation shown on the previous plans . Mr. Schupe indicated that it was eliminated because he thought the commission requested that. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the applicant did not accomplish what the commission was asking for. The applicant discussed his concerns with increasing the parapet heights on the alley side because he did not think it would be aesthetically pleasing as it would make the building look unbalanced. He indicated that a tree was added at the corner to help screen the roof mounted equipment from the alley. Commissioner Gregory suggested that the tree be changed to a chilean mesquite as it will be more evergreen year round and grows very fast. Commissioner Gregory added that it will take approximately four years for the tree to mature enough to screen the roof 6 ; . � � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 properly. Commissioner O'Donnell felt that the applicant � had made a real effort up until this point, and he did not see why the commission has to settle with the one corner of the roof not being screened properly. He felt that this was an area where some improvements could be made and thought the applicant should take a better look at the possibilities . Mr. Schupe indicated that it would be difficult to carry the higher parapet around the corner and still have any balance. He thought it would be better to thicken the edge of the parapet instead of carrying it around the corner. Commissioner Urrutia explained that the building there now does not have any equipment on the roof. Visually, the people in the two story building to the south do not have to see any equipment at all but now the applicant is coming in and adding equipment all over the roof. Commissioner Urrutia indicated that he was willing to accept the equipment on the roof if it were far enough from view from this second story building. Commissioner Gregory asked if it were possible to lower the equipment so it is easier to screen. The applicant indicated that since this is all new roof mounted equipment it has to be placed on top of an existing interior wall . Commissioner Gregory asked what type of material would be used if they were to screen the roof mounted equipment. Mr. Schupe indicated that it would be a corrugated vertical tin screening material . Commissioner Gregory asked if there was a more upgraded material that could be used that would not look so industrial . Mr. Schupe indicated that a stucco material could be used. Commissioner Urrutia suggested at horizontal aluminum louver type screen that might be less expensive than the stucco and would allow air to flow through. Commissioner Gregory felt that the screening should not only be on the south side but on the east side as well . Commissioner Gregory indicated that the irrigation plans were changed to meet his approval . 7 ; . �, ,� MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 Action• It was moved by Commissioner Gregory, seconded by Commissioner 0'Donnell, to approve the final working drawings subject to the following conditions : 1) Edges of the scalloped parapets to be thickened to a depth of 2 feet; 2) Roof mounted equipment screening on Units 7 through 10 to be some form of inetal louver at least as high as the original parapet in a color to match the other trim on the building. Motion carried 3-0-1, Commissioner Urrutia Abstaining B. Preliminary Plans : 1. CA5E NO. : TT 24984-2 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS) : FOXX DEVELOPMENT CORP. for THE GROVE, 73-111 E1 Paseo, Suite 200, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of preliminary elevations for final phase at The Grove LOCATION: The Grove (west side of Deep Canyon Drive between Goleta and Allessandro) ZONE: PR-5 Steve 5mith reported that this was the final phase at The Grove and consisted of 44 lots. The applicant, Dan Foxx, indicated that with a series of changes, they have approximately 700 different plans for Plan 1 and about 400 different variations for Plan 2 . He indicated that the elevations before the commission today were for the two model homes only. Plan 1 varies from 2079 to 2800 square feet. Plan 2 varies from 2442 to over 3000 square feet. Mr. Smith informed the commission that a homeowner at The Grove has come in to city hall, as well as made several phone calls, to see if the plans proposed by Foxx Development were submitted, but she has never left a name or phone number for us to contact her or we would have asked her to attend the meeting. 8 , � � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 Commissioner Gregory asked if all the houses would be the same distance from the street. Mr. Foxx indicated that all the garages were set back 20 feet. Commissioner Holden noted that every year about this time you start to see the foil going up on the bay windows because of the lack of overhangs . Mr. Foxx indicated that there are 2 ' stucco overhangs with some areas having a 4 ' overhang. Commissioner Urrutia discussed his concerns with the lack of detail, especially around the windows . Mr. Foxx indicated that the bay windows have 6" deep pop-outs around the building and that they are trying to match the elevations that are there now. Commissioner Gregory indicated that more architectural details should be shown on the elevations for the models . Mr. Foxx indicated that the color schemes and roof tiles will match what is there now. Action: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to continue the request to allow the applicant to provide detailed elevations and landscaping plan for the two model homes . Motion carried 4-0 . 2 . CASE NO. : PP 95-8 APPLICANT (AND ADDRE5S) : DESIGN DEVELOPMENT for FRED WARING OFFICE PLAZA, 69-730 Highway 111, Suite 118, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of landscaping plans for medical office building LOCATION: South side of Fred Waring Drive between San Pasqual and San Pablo ZONE: O.P. Steve 5mith indicated that no action was necessary as the applicant had not submitted the plans . 9 . � , � � MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MAY 28, 1996 IV. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 2 : 10 p.m. , �" 2� S SMITH PLANNING MANAGER SS/db 10