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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-11-26 r %W MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. Commissioners Present: Current Meetins Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Richard Holden X 4 2 Frank Urrutia X 6 0 Chris Van Vliet X 5 1 Wayne Connor X 5 1 Richard O'Donnell X 6 0 Ronald Gregory(excused) X 5 1 Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith Martin Alvarez Daisy Garcia Donna Bitter II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor,to approve the minutes of the November 12, 1996 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 3-0-2, Commissioners Holden and Van Vliet Abstaining, Commissioner Gregory Absent. III. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO.: 4732 SA APPLICANT(AND ADDRESSI: STEVE WILLIAMSON for FITIGUES, 15108 Alicante, La Mirada, CA 90638 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Reconsideration of aluminum awnings LOCATION: 73-100 El Paseo, Suite 6 ZONE: C-1 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 Steve Smith reported that the applicant has withdrawn the request for approval of the aluminum awnings as they will be installing the previously approved Sumbrella charcoal fabric on the existing frames. No action was taken. 2. CASE NO.: 4728 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ARCHITECTURAL NEON& SIGN CO. for WORLD GYM FITNESS CENTER, 74-990 Joni Drive, Suite 3C,Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of minor signage using can sign LOCATION: 111 Town Center ZONE: P.C. (3) Steve Smith reported that the commission's recommendation for use of reverse channel letters was approved by the city council. The applicant, Mr. Gary Wright, was now before the commission to ask for approval of a can sign reading "Fitness Center"because it is very difficult and very expensive to do something this small in reverse channel letters. Mr. Smith indicated that the can sign would be located in the middle of the north wall. Mr. Wright indicated that the lower section of the sign reading "Fitness Center" would be illuminated, as well as the %" white border. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the illuminated letters would be acceptable but did not want the border illuminated. Action It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the can sign on the north wall subject to only the letters reading "Fitness Center" being illuminated. Border is not to be illuminated. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 2 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 3. CASE NO.: 4734 SA APPLICANT(AND ADDRESS): ARCHITECTURAL NEON & SIGN CO. for DAKOTA BAR& GRILL, 74-990 Joni Drive, Suite 3C, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised business identification signage LOCATION: 73-260 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith reported that the request was for approval of an 18" x 20' long sign to be placed on the existing wood strip. Sign colors would be turquoise,white and red. Action It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the revised signage as submitted subject to painting the background of the sign to match the color of the existing wood strip. Motion carried 5-0,Commissioner Gregory Absent. 4. CASE NO.: 4742 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THE CALENDAR GIRLS SIGNS for TANPOPO RESTAURANT,73-885 Highway 111, Suite 2,Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of free standing pedestrian sign LOCATION: 72-221 Highway I I I ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith reported that the request was for a free standing sign. He indicated that he explained to the applicant that the sign was too big and that the commission could not approve an additional free standing monument sign for the center as the ordinance states that every center is allowed one free standing only. Mr. Smith noted that the applicant felt that their existing wall sign is not visible from Highway 111. Mr. Alvarez indicated that "Tanpopo" would be blue with a white background. 3 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 Commissioner O'Donnell asked if they would be removing the wall sign if this sign was approved. Mr. Alvarez indicated that the applicant wanted approval of the free standing sign while keeping the existing wall mounted sign. Action It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve relocating the existing wall sign down making it more visible from Highway 111. The proposed free standing sign was denied. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 5. CASE NO.: 4744 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for DEL GAGNON, 69 Pinyon Pines, Mountain Center, CA 92561 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage LOCATION: 73-612 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Martin Alvarez reported that the proposed white awning was 20' long with 8" black letters. Commissioner Holden asked if they were prepared to remove the existing pole sign. The applicant, Ernie Brooks, indicated that they were not willing to remove the pole sign. Action It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the awning only, without signage, as the City's ordinance states that the existing pole sign would have to be removed if any new signage was installed and the applicant was not willing to remove the pole sign. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 6. CASE NO.: 4745 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for EMMETT GOLF CARTS, 69 Pinyon Pines, Mountain Center, CA 92561 4 %we �..� MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage and lighting LOCATION: 42-480 Ritter Circle ZONE: S.I. Martin Alvarez presented the drawings for the proposed 10'x 3'high awning in blue with white letters and logo. Commissioners Urrutia and O'Donnell felt that the proposed awning served no purpose. Commissioner Urrutia suggested that the signage be placed on the building. Commissioner Holden felt that the proposed awning did not integrate into the architecture of the building. Mr. Smith asked about possibly moving the awning to the south side of the building. Commissioner Holden agreed with moving the awning over the two garage doors on the west elevation. Action It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to continue the request to allow the applicant to redesign the awning for placement over the two roll-up garage doors. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 7. CASE NO.: 4748 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for THE JEWELRY BOX, 69 Pinyon Pines, Mountain Center, CA 92561 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage LOCATION: 73-111 El Paseo, Suite C ZONE: C-1 Martin Alvarez reported that the request was for approval of five awnings. The smaller awnings would be 24" long by 20" high and the larger awnings would be 8' by 36"high. The letters would be 10" high on the large awning with 6" letters on the smaller awnings. 5 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 Action It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the five awnings as submitted. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 8. CASE NO.: 4749 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for CHOCOLATES, 69 Pinyon Pines, Mountain Center, CA 92561 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning with signage and lighting LOCATION: 73-655 El Paseo, Bldg. J ZONE: C-1 Martin Alvarez presented the drawings for the proposed awning in white with 12" capital and 8" lower case brown letters. Action It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the awning as submitted. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 9. CASE NO.: PP 94-7 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THE NADEL PARTNERSHIP, INC. for LUCKY STORES, 1990 So. Bundy Drive,Fourth Floor, Los Angeles, CA 90025 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Reconsideration of landscape plan at west perimeter LOCATION: Northeast corner of Highway 111 and Deep Canyon ZONE: P.C. (4) Steve Smith presented the originally approved landscape plan for the Luckys project noting that the trees installed are not on the city's list to meet the parking lot shade 6 �...� f MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 tree requirements. He indicated that what was approved is not what is being installed because the public works department approved a grading plan that moved the sidewalk. Commissioner Holden discussed his concerns with the noise and lights, etc.not being screened from the residential area after the commission spent so much time with the applicant to ensure the proper screening. Commissioner Van Vliet asked that the landscape architect come back to the commission with a revised plan to address the issues that have now come up. Mr. Smith indicated that he spoke earlier to Commissioner Gregory and that Commissioner Gregory felt that a wall was now needed on the northwest corner of the site adjacent to the nine parking spaces next to the retention basin. Commissioner Urrutia agreed. Commissioner Connor indicated that the hopseed has a problem with long term growth and needed to be replaced with a more reliable plant. Action It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to continue the request directing the applicant to address the following: 1) Replace the hopseed with a more reliable plant as it tends to have a problem with long term growth; and 2) Add a minimum 36" high stucco wall,with planting on both sides, to extend parallel to Deep Canyon Drive, adjacent to the nine parking spaces next to the retention basin; and 3) Provide screening of the tunnel/loading dock area from Deep Canyon. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 10. CASE NO.: CUP 96-2 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CHARLES L. MARTIN for MONTEREY LAW CENTER, 73-733 Highway 111, Palm Desert, California 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revisions to approved landscape plan LOCATION: 44-712 Monterey Avenue ZONE: R-2 Steve Smith presented the revised landscape plan noting that the originally approved landscape plan has been changed because it did not relate to the grading and what is 7 ..r MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 there now. Commissioner Connor asked if the commission had approved the monument sign noted on the revised plans. The applicant, Charles Martin, indicated that he had the proposal for the structure with him today to present to the commission. The proposed monument sign structure would be black glass and stucco to match the building colors. He added that he was not asking for approval of the signage but for the structure only. Mr. Martin added that the public works department and Southern California Edison had him take out the trees in the back. Commissioner Connor noted that the parking lot did not meet the city's parking lot shade tree requirements. Mr. Smith added that there had to be a tree for every three parking spaces. Commissioner Connor questioned the curb and the paving. Action It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the structure only for the monument sign as submitted and approved the revised landscaping plan subject to conforming to the City's parking lot shade tree requirements. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 11. CASE NO.: TT 23940-3 APPLICANT(AND ADDRESSI. FOXX DEVELOPMENT for SUNTERRACE, 73-111 El Paseo, Suite 200, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of elevations for two additional units for Plan 1 LOCATION: Sunterrace (Northwest corner of Hovley Lane East and Eldorado Drive) ZONE: PR-5 Steve Smith reported that the commission and staff expected to review the plans for the additional two units. In anticipation staff sent out notices to 29 existing property owners in the development advising them of this meeting. He noted that the applicant was not present but asked the commission to hear from the homeowners who took the time to come to the meeting. Commissioner O'Donnell explained to the homeowners that Mr. Foxx was scheduled to come to the meeting today with plans for two other models. Ms.Ellen Kauti,homeowner, indicated that the existing homeowners do not know 8 �.✓ fir+' MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 what Mr. Foxx was proposing to build and should not be able to continue with the house he is building now. Mr. Patrick Leahy, member of the Sunterrace Homeowners Association's Architectural Committee, indicated that the association did see the plans for the first model. Ms. Kauti noted that the homeowners were not shown the plans and wanted to make sure that the new homes being built were comparable to the existing homes in regards to exterior elevations,landscaping, etc. Commissioner O'Donnell read the minutes from the meeting of November 12, 1996,where Mr. Foxx outlined the price ranges for the existing homes as well as the projected price range for his homes. Ms. Kauti stated that the sales price noted by Mr.Foxx at the last meeting was incorrect. Commissioner O'Donnell suggested that the homeowners meet with the homeowners association's architectural committee to review these plans. Commissioner Holden informed the homeowners that the architectural commission will look at the plans to make sure that the new homes are comparable to what is there now. He added that they are an aesthetic board and it is their responsibility to make sure that these homes fit in with their homes. Commissioner Urrutia noted that Mr. Foxx did present the plans for the first model at their November 12th meeting and the commission did approve the plans for that model only because they felt that what was proposed was comparable to what was there now. Commissioner Holden added that a public notice was not required for him to build in Sunterrace because he is taking over an existing approved project. Mr. Smith added that the agenda for the architectural commission meetings is posted outside the council chamber on the Friday afternoon before the following Tuesday meeting. He indicated that the homeowners could check the posted agendas or contact Donna Bitter the Monday before the meetings to see if Mr. Foxx was on the agenda for review of the plans. Action It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to continue the request as the applicant was not present and did not submit plans prior to the meeting. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 12. CASE NO.: PP 95-7 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DENISE ROBERGE, 73-250 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of landscape plan 9 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 LOCATION: 45-245 Portola Avenue ZONE: C-1 Phil Drell presented the landscaping plan. Commissioner Connor noted that the plan was unusual and high maintenance but that he did not have a problem with the plan. Mr. Drell indicated that they have installed some of the larger trees prior to the construction of the parking lot and that they want to put in 24" box trees instead of the carports. The representative for the applicant, Mr. Craig Duncan, indicated that the wedge in the wall will move closer to the parking lot which will move the trees closer to the parking lot. Action It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the landscape plan subject to replacing the arbutus unedo strawberry tree with a more reliable tree as it will not survive in the desert. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO.: PP 96-11 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): GENERAL CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT for PACIFIC ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, 41-865 Boardwalk, Suite 12,Palm Desert, CA 92211 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised preliminary elevations and landscaping plans for 20-unit assisted living complex LOCATION: 44-424 San Carlos and 73-685 Catalina Way ZONE: R-2 Steve Smith reported that the applicant had revised the site plan with the direction given by the commission at their last meeting. He showed how they created an entryway into the administration building and moved the trash enclosure area. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the trash enclosure should have better access from the kitchen. He also discussed his concerns with the wall in front of parking spaces 14, 10 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 15 and 16 stating that the wall needs to be moved back to add landscaping. The wall should be adjusted accordingly all the way around. Commissioner Urrutia added that a landscape buffer was needed around the wall behind parking spaces 9, 10, 11 and 12 and a hammer head should be created at the rear of parking space 12 at the left side of the administration building. Action It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the preliminary plans subject to the following conditions: 1) Wall in front of parking spaces 14, 15 and 16 to be moved back to allow for landscaping with remainder of wall adjusted accordingly; and 2) Create landscaping buffer around the wall behind parking spaces 9, 10, 11 and 12; and 3) Create hammer head at rear of parking space 12; and 4) Expand the on west elevation all the way around to the rear of the building. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. 2. CASE NO.: CUP 96-18 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): McFADDEN &McINTOSH ARCHITECTS for CAM'S CORNER, 73-929 Larrea Street, Suite 1A, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Reconsideration of architectural canopy at proposed fuel station LOCATION: Northwest corner of Highway 111 and Deep Canyon ZONE: C-1 Steve Smith reported that the case went before the planning commission where the applicant presented the completed traffic study. The matter received considerable discussion and there still were a considerable amount of neighbors who were opposed to the idea of a service station or convenience store. The planning commission approved the conditional use permit subject to a list of conditions, one of which called for a re-design of the canopy. Mr. Smith indicated that the planning commission felt that the canopy was too massive and too bulky and that it needed to be less of a statement. He showed that there are three new proposed elevations of the canopy which has been reduced in height considerably and is now flat. The applicant, Chris McFadden, explained that Option No. 3 is 36" deep, Option No. 4 11 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 is the standard Chevron station canopy with all steel fascias, and Option No. 5 is the articulated edge with an element in the center. Commissioner Urrutia asked if all the canopies proposed are stucco. Mr. McFadden indicated that this was correct. Commissioner Urrutia noted that the signage would be a separate issue. Commissioner Van Vliet asked what the total height would be on the revised canopy. Mr. McFadden indicated that it is 17' 6" high. Action It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, approved Concept No. 3 as submitted for the architectural canopy. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Gregory Absent. C. Miscellaneous: 1. Discussion regarding College of the Desert driving range chain link fence and screening of same. The applicant, Ed Pratt, addressed the commission informing them that he and Steve Smith met informally to try to come up with some ideas to help soften the look of the chain link fence surrounding the driving range. He explained that the letter distributed to the commission talks about the phasing of the plan. Mr. Sandy Burns added that they negotiated the RFP's with the school district and their insurance carrier would not give them insurance without the driving range being fenced in. He added that they did get approval from the school district to install the fence but that they were before the commission today to figure out a screening solution that meets the city's requirements but keep within the driving range budget. Mr. Burns indicated that he would like to take a random dollar figure and come up with a plan that works for the city to get the situation resolved. Mr. Pratt explained that they are a new company struggling with a new product and that they really could not afford to create planters, irrigation, etc. Mr. Smith explained that he took Mr. Pratt's letter to Councilman Crites and that he did not think we were going far enough with Mr. Pratt's recommendation. That is why the situation was before the commission today. Commissioner Connor felt that one of the things that they could do to help is to come up with some type of plan that would address the entire project and what it would look like in the end. He added that they needed to see how Phase I ties into Phase II. Commissioner Connor discussed his concerns with seeing a high wall that closes off the view. He also 12 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 asked who would be maintaining the oleanders. Mr. Pratt replied that they would be maintaining the oleanders. Commissioner Connor asked who was maintaining the landscaping around the utility boxes now. Mr. Pratt replied that the college was maintaining the landscaping. Commissioner Connor added that when the project was done, the look will need to be more compatible with what the city is doing now with desert plant material. Commissioner O'Donnell stated that when he met with school management before going on sabbatical he stated that there were some designs that could be used. He offered to take management to locations to show examples of what could be done. Commissioner Holden added that there are ways to break up the massiveness. Commissioner Urrutia felt that another idea would be to add some wrought iron in different areas. Commissioners O'Donnell and Connor agreed to work with the representatives of the driving range and staff to work out some solutions. Commissioner Holden stated that the commission did appreciate what the owners of the driving range are doing. 2. Oral presentation by the City Manager regarding the relationship between the Art-In-Public-Places Committee and the Architectural Review Commission. Phil Drell addressed the commission at the city manager's request stating that the city manager talked to John Nagus regarding the mandatory art placement requirement. They talked about including the art placement requirement information with applications distributed by the department of community development to ensure that the applicant makes the decision on their art placement. This way, if the applicant indicates that they will be placing their own art selection on their project, it will have to show on the elevations presented to the architectural commission. Commission agreed with the suggestion and added that the public works department needs to also sign off on the landscaping plans stating that the plans are consistent with the grading plans. 13 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION NOVEMBER 26, 1996 V. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 3:15 p.m. to a special meeting at 12:00 on Tuesday, December 3, 1996 to consider a proposal from Intra West. STEVE SMITH PLANNING MANAGER SS/db 14