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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 11, 1997
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I. CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 12:25 p.m.
Commissioners Present: Current Meetin� Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Richard Holden X 9 2
Frank Urrutia X 10 1
Chris VanVliet X 10 1
Wayne Connar X 10 1
Richard O'Donnell X 11 0
Ronald Gregory X 10 1
Staff Present: Steve Smith
Martin Alvarez
Steve Buchanan
Pat Bedrosian
Donna Bitter
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Gregory, to approve
the minutes of the January 28, 1997 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 6-0.
III. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO.: 4780 SA
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSI: AMERICAN AWNING CO. for CAFFE'
VALENTINO, 44489 Town Center Way, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning
LOCATION: 73-375 El Paseo, Suites P, Q and R
ZONE: G1
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Mr.Alvarez presented the drawings and color sample noting that the applicant wants
to replace the three existing awnings with one piece that would jog in and out in
mauve. It would extend out approximately 6'3" from the farthest wall. Signage
would be 4" letters with the existing signage remaining.
Commissioner Holden noted his concerns with the proposed awning creating all
different types of awnings on one building. He felt the concept was acceptable but
that there should be some conformity. Commissioner Urrutia felt that the applicant
should take another look on how to support the awning and suggested the use of
columns.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to
direct the applicant to bring the awning to some type of uniformity(not a mixture of
scalloped, round and square awnings) and return to staff for final approval.
Commission questioned the necessity of the "draw-bridge" look with the support
member connecting to the roof above the awning. Motion carried 6-0.
2, CASE NO.: PP 86-28, Amendment No. 2
APPLICANT�,AND ADDRESSI: DAVID GEISER c/o MCG ARCHITECTS for
111 TOWN CENTER,4180 La Jolla Village, Suite 330, La Jolla, CA 92037; ERIC
G. DAMS c/o BEST BLTY COMPANY,INC., Post Office Box 9312, Minneapolis,
MN 55440-9312
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of architecture
for Best Buy and Pad 3
LOCATION: 1 ll Town Center
ZONE: P.C. (3) S.P.
Mr. Smith reported that in November 1996 the commission granted preliminary
approval of the architecture with the following conditions:
i) The main tower element be a minimum 12" x 12" blue tile (No. 180) as
shown;
ii) Revise the support design wedge where it meets the ground to eliminate one
of the openings and continue the tile all the way down to the ground;
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iii) Raise the grade on the driveway to eliminate the curb at the entrance and add
paving (i.e. colored concrete);
iv) Sign color background to be in the Plexi-Glass No. 2465 range in metal.
Mr. Smith indicated that the wedge has been re-designed in that it only has one
opening but that the tile does not go all the way to the ground. He added that the
grade on the driveway had not been changed (condition No. 3) and that the signs
were not included in this approval.
Mr. Smith added that the request included approval of the working drawings for Pad
No. 3 which is on Highway 111 next to Home Savings. Commissioner Urrutia asked
if the parking lot is still being re-designed. Mr. Smith indicated that it was.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to
approve the elevations for Pad 3 and the final working drawings for Best Buy subject
to incorporating Condition No. 3 from the November 12, 1996 A.R.C.meeting which
is providing a level walkway from the main entry with some type of treatment
instead of asphalt in addition to the landscape and parking lot conditions noted in the
minutes of the September 24, 1996 A.R.C. meeting prior to rough framing
inspection. Motion carried 6-0.
3. CASE NO.: PP 94-7
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THE NADEL PARTNERSHIP for LUCKY
STORES, 1990 So. Bundy Drive, Fourth Floor, Los Angeles, CA 90025
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised
landscaping plan at the northwest corner
LOCATION: Northeast corner of Highway 111 and Deep Canyon
ZONE: P.G (4)
Mr. Smith presented photographs taken the week prior of the northwest corner of the
site. He indicated that the plan has been revised, expanding the landscape area by
two parking spaces to the south where they propose to plant trees. Mr. Smith
informed the commission that Mr. Goudsworthy was present. The representative for
the applicant, Mr. Sean Robert, indicated that their goal was to establish an 8 foot
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high hedge along Deep Canyon from the retention basin and extended all the way
down. He added that it will take a couple of seasons of growth for the hedge to get
8 feet high. Mr. Robert indicated that they included two of the mondale pines to
screen the view of the loading area. Commissioner Gregory felt that this was not a
way to solve the problem for the residents across the street on Deep Canyon as he did
not want to rely on plant material to screen this area. Commissioner Holden still felt
there should be some type of door added to the loading dock. Mr. Robert indicated
that this would be difficult and they are not prepared to put up a door. Mr.
Goudsworthy asked why they couldn't install mature landscaping along Deep
Canyon. Mr. Robert felt that this was not possible because there was not enough
room along the street area. Mr. Goudsworthy indicated that the residents are not
interested in a door,but want mature landscaping.
Commissioner Gregory asked what the status was on the existing approved plan and
if everything was followed per that plan. Mr. Smith explained that we have a
landscape plan that was approved by the commission which is in conflict with the
approved grading plan. He added that in order to implement the approved landscape
plan they would have to remove the sidewalk north of the driveway to the retention
basin and move it to the curb. Mr. Smith noted that this would not address the
concerns. Commissioner Gregory added that the applicant has an obligation to make
the plan correct with the originally approved plan and has an opportunity to be a
good neighbor and provide adequate screening. Commissioner Connor expressed his
concerns with the mondale pines as they are not reliable here in the desert and wanted
to see something that will last. Mr. Robert indicated that they will be using 72" box
trees. Cominissioner Connor felt that the best solution is that the closer they get to
the area, the better screening they can provide. Mr. Goudsworthy felt that heavy
landscaping was the only answer.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Gregory, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to
approve the revised landscaping plan for the area located at the northwest corner of
the site adjacent to Deep Canyon Road subject to the following conditions:
1) The landscaping plan is amended to be consistent with the approved grading
plan(i.e. the sidewalk setback 3'+ from Deep Canyon Road curb). Areas to
be landscaped will be the 3' ± area between the sidewalk and the curb,plus
the 9' area between the sidewalk and the parking lot,plus the two northerly
parking spaces from the row of nine parking spaces adjacent to Deep Canyon
Road;
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2) That the materials presented to the commission this date are not acceptable
(i.e. hopseed bush and mondale pines);
3) That the four existing California fan palms, which have recently been
installed,be removed; "
4) That the approved revised landscape plan will include a mix of large mature
spreading canopy trees (i.e. 72"box material)with spacing to be determined
by the actual species selected and a fast growing hedge (shrub)type material
which will obscure the low level view of the loading dock/tunnel. Said
material to be minimum 15 gallon installed material;
5) This landscape material to extend southerly to the northerly limit of the
designated Pad"C"property line as it would project to Deep Canyon Road;
6) Applicant's landscape architect to prepare a revised landscape plan consistent
with the above items to be submitted to Commissioners Gregory and Connor
via fax(applicant's landscape architect may contact Commissioners Gregory
and Connor to discuss acceptable plant material). When plan is acceptable
to Commissioners Gregory and Connor, each will so advise staff;
7) That the applicant shall make appropriate arrangements with it's landscape
maintenance firm to assure that this portion of the site is maintained in a
manner consistent with the objectives of this plan revision (i.e. to provide
maximum screening of the tunnel/loading area).
Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Urrutia Absent.
4. CASE NO.: TT 23940-3
APPLICANT(AND ADDRESSI: FOXX DEVELOPMENT for SLINTERRACE,
73-111 El Paseo, Suite 200, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of exterior color
scheme for Plan 1 at Sunterrace
LOCATION: Sunterrace (Northwest corner of Hovley Lane East and Eldorado
Drive)
ZONE: PR-5
The representative for the applicant,Bob Wolf,presented the proposed color schemes
and indicated that he had verbal approval of same from Pat Leahy and Bob Varner.
Commissioner O'Donnell asked about roof tile samples. Mr. Wolf explained that
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they will have flat roofs.
Action•
It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Gregory, to
approve the exterior color scheme for Plan 1 as submitted. Motion carried 6-0.
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO.: TT 24254
APPLICANT�AND ADDRESSI: ERIC MILLER, ARCHITECT, A.I.A. for
SONATA II,901 Rio Grande Blvd.,N.W., Suite D-220A,Albuquerque,N.M. 871-4
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Further consideration of
revised elevations and additional model units
LOCATION: North of Hovley Lane, 1900 feet west of Portola Avenue
ZONE: PR-5
Mr. Smith presented pictures of the existing one and two story homes and indicated
that the commission was looking at a re-designed elevation with a hip roof. The
applicant,Mr. Kilpatrick, asked the commission to approve the gable roofs with the
condition that he guarantee that there will be a certain number of homes with the hip
roof re-design as shown today.
Mr. Smith reported that there were two conditions on the original tract map that will
be on the next planning commission agenda. He indicated that staff will be asking
to eliminate these two conditions and recommend that they adhere to the city's basic
R-1 standards. Mr. Smith explained that the applicant would like to proceed with the
model complex with the commitment that at some time in the future that a minimun
of 15% of the 68 homes have hip roofs as shown today. Commissioner Urrutia
expressed his concerns with the possibility of two gable ends used where there are
minimum setbacks. He suggested that whenever the distance between two homes is
less than 14 feet they must have at least one hip roof. If they meet or exceed the 14
feet of separation,then they can use two gable ends.
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Action•
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to
approve the three(3) 18 foot high gable roofed plans, the color scheme, and the hip
roofed house plans as submitted subject to there being a minimum of 14 feet of
separation between homes with gable ends; otherwise, there has to be a hip roof on
at least one end. Motion carried 6-0.
C. Miscellaneous:
1. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSI: GREG POE, 74-470 Goleta Avenue, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration of height and
material exception for backyard wall facing along Fred Waring Drive
LOCATION: 74-470 Goleta Avenue
ZONE: R-1 S.P.
Mr. Alvarez presented photographs of the home stating that the applicant is
requesting a exception to the height limit and material indicating that Mr. Poe wants
to install precision block at eight feet high. After a lengthy discussion with Mr. Poe,
the following action was taken.
Action•
It was moved by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to
approve the fencing at a maximum height of seven feet to match the color and
material of the adjacent slump stone wall to the east. Wall to extend around the
corner a minimum of two blocks. Motion carried 5-0,Commissioner Urrutia Absent.
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2. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSI: ROBERT TAYLOR COMPANY, 42-200
Beacon Hill, Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to exception to
front yard setback requirement for 6 foot high wall
LOCATION: 43-380 Texas Avenue and 76-710 California Avenue
ZONE: R-19,000
Mr. Alvarez reported that the required setback is 15 feet from the face of the curb
and that the applicant is requesting a setback of 11'2" because there are pools in the
front yard of both homes that will not allow a 15 foot setback. Commissioner
Connor suggested the use of landscaping to 6 feet high. After a lengthy discussion
with the applicant,the following action was taken.
Action•
It was moved by Commissioner Gregory, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to
deny the requests and suggested that the applicant provide a detailed landscape plan
for outside the wall and return to the commission for reconsideration of the
exception. Motion carried 5-0, Commissioner Urrutia Absent.
V. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 2:30 p.m.
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