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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-10-14 MINUTES PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION TUESDAY, OCTOBER 14, 1997 **************************************************************************************************** I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. Commissioners Present Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Richard Holden X 23 4 Frank Urrutia X 24 3 Chris Van Vliet X 25 2 Wayne Connor X 25 2 Richard O'Donnell X 24 3 Ronald Gregory X 22 5 Staff Present: Steve Smith, Planning Manager Martin Alvarez, Assistant Planner Steve Buchanan, Senior Plans Examiner Daisy Garcia, Code Enforcement Officer Kim Chafin, Senior Office Assistant II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Holden, to approve the minutes of the September 23, 1997 meeting as submitted. Motion carried 6-0-1, with Commissioner Van Vliet abstaining. III. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO.: 4885 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): IMPERIAL SIGN CO., INC. for GILA STEAKS & SEAFOOD, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio CA 92201; GILA STEAKS & SEAFOOD, 74-950 Country Club Drive, Palm Desert CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Reconsideration of revised business identification signage LOCATION: 74-950 Country Club Drive ZONE: P.C.(2) MINUTES '`ow, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 14, 1997 Mr. Smith pointed out that the main change to the sign is the decorative molding. Nancy Cobb spoke on behalf of the applicant, indicating that the intent is to repeat the detailing on the building, and added that the texture and color of the raceway will match the building. Commissioner Urrutia asked how thick the can sign will be, to which Ms. Cobb responded 11 inches. Commissioner Connor asked if it is necessary that the can be so large, to which Ms. Cobb responded that it could be reduced to six inches. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the revised business identification signage with the following conditions:that the can be a maximum of six inches thick and that the texture and paint match the building. Motion carried 6-0. 2. CASE NO.: 4803 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): IMPERIAL SIGN CO., INC. for DESERT OASIS APARTMENTS, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of non- illuminated cabinet sign LOCATION: 77-777 Country Club Drive ZONE: R-3 Mr. Alvarez reported that the applicant's proposal includes a non-illuminated cabinet sign totaling 28 square feet to be located 11'6" from the curb in the center median, which will require the removal of some landscaping to accommodate the sign. The applicant also proposes a sign height of seven feet, but the maximum height allowed by the Code is six feet; so the Commission must take this into consideration. Commissioner O'Donnell asked what vegetation would be removed, to which Nancy Cobb, the applicant, responded that some bushes will be eliminated and replaced with very low lying ground cover. Ms. Cobb noted that the can sign is 12 inches thick. 2 MINUTES '`""" �` ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 14, 1997 Commissioner Urrutia asked if the sign will be double-sided, to which Ms. Cobb responded affirmatively. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the non-illuminated cabinet sign as submitted. Motion carried 6-0. 3. CASE NO.: 4899 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PROMOTIONAL SIGNS UNLIMITED for HOUSE OF BREWS, 22552 Muirlands Boulevard, Lake Forest CA 92630 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business identification signage LOCATION: 72-185 Painter's Path ZONE: C-1 Mr. Alvarez reported that the applicant is locating his business in the building which formerly housed B.B. O'Brien's, and proposes to mount signs on the front and north elevations, add a metal sign to the awning, and add a band of three lines of exposed neon around the building. A four-inch raceway with purple and gold neon letters is to be mounted on the building. The awnings at the entrance will be metal with signage mounted to the awning. Commissioner Holden asked how the neon tubes will be held to the stucco exterior, to which the applicant responded that 1.5" clear glass spacers will be used. Commissioner Holden stated that, although neon has been permitted in some signs in the City, it has not been allowed to be applied directly, as the preference is to have it recessed into the building. Commissioner Holden noted that the applicant's use of neon at the Huntington Beach store appears appropriate, and indicated that he would like the neon for this store to be better integrated into the building. Commissioner Van Vliet asked if anything is being done to the existing windows, to which the applicant responded that they are to remain the same. 3 MINUTES `'' N000, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 14, 1997 Chairman Gregory remarked that the only concern appears to be the neon tubing, and suggested that the Commission approve the request and direct the applicant to work with staff to better integrate the neon tubing into the building. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the business identification signage with the condition that the applicant work with City staff to better integrate the neon tubing into the building. Motion carried 6-0. 4. CASE NO.: 4902 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PALMS TO PINES CANVAS for PALM DESERT TOBACCO, 69 Pinyon Pines, Mountain Center CA 92561 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of marquis awning with sign LOCATION: 73-580 El Paseo, Suite D ZONE: C-1 Mr. Smith noted that although there is an existing marquis awning on the block to the west, staffs concern is the close proximity of the awning to the corner. The applicant has submitted a letter from the two closest neighbors indicating they have no objection to the proposed awning. Ernie Brooks, the applicant, noted that the awning projects 14 feet out from the building and will be 24 inches away from the curb, and the six-inch square steel tube posts will line up directly with the center of the palm trees. The awning, which will be internally lit, will be comprised of grey fabric with eight-inch vinyl letters in burgundy, and the cigar image will be burgundy with white smoke. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve the marquis awning with sign with the condition that the applicant work with City staff regarding the color of the posts. Motion carried 6-0. 4 MINUTES Nw"W ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 14, 1997 5. CASE NO.: 4884 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): IMPERIAL SIGN CO., INC. for CAM'S 'CORNER, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised monument signage LOCATION: 74-480 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Mr. Alvarez reported that the monument sign has been redesigned to address the problems relating to location and line of sight. The sign features a half-circle opening through which the cars can be seen. The sign will measure 5'4" high and 67' wide with route flush lettering. Chairman Gregory felt that the sign looks very cluttered, and suggested that the size of the letters be reduced. Chairman Gregory noted that this sign has the appearance of a menu sign, and the Commission has traditionally limited the number of names on menu signs to two; so he would suggest that one of names be deleted, most logically the Sub Zero name since that business already has a large wall mounted sign on that side of the building. Commissioner O'Donnell felt that the cocktail glass image next to the Bash's name was inappropriate and suggested that it be deleted. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Holden, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the revised monument sign with the following conditions: that the size of the letters be reduced and that the names be lined up; and that the cocktail glass image be deleted. Motion carried 6-0. 6. CASE NO.: 4897 SA APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): COAST SIGN, INC. for MARIE CALLENDER'S RESTAURANT AND BAKERY, 1345 South Allec, Anaheim CA 92865 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of new monument sign 5 MINUTES *`"` `"'`r ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 14, 1997 LOCATION: 72-840 Highway 111, Suite 399 (Palm Desert Town Center) ZONE: P.C.(3) Mr. Smith reported that the City's Code Enforcement Division instructed the business to repair or remove the dilapidated sign, and the applicant proposes to place a new sign in the same location, the sign being 51" high and 9'9" wide with a bright red face and bright yellow accent. Chairman Gregory felt that the red and yellow colors were too bright, with which Commissioner Urrutia agreed and suggested that the red be changed to burgundy and the yellow be changed to a gold toned yellow. Mr. Smith suggested that the Commission approve a sign no larger in area than the existing sign, with a maximum height of six feet, and a maximum 430 MA high output florescent lamps for interior illumination. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the new monument sign with the following conditions: that the bright red color be changed to burgundy and the bright yellow color be changed to a gold toned yellow; that the sign area be no larger than that of the existing sign area, with a maximum height of six feet measured from grade to the top of the sign; and that the high output florescent lamps for interior illumination not exceed 430 MA. Motion carried 6-0. B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO.: TT 28295 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DESERT RESORT COMMUNITIES, INC., One Columbia, Suite 2020, Aliso Viejo CA 92656 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of preliminary elevations for a model complex for a 69-lot subdivision LOCATION: Tract No. 28295 at the northeast corner of Fred Waring Drive and Deep Canyon Road ZONE: PR-4 6 MINUTES Nft-. .1400, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 14, 1997 Mr. Alvarez reported that the homes will range in size from 2,200 square feet to 3,000 square feet. The models will be located off of the Deep Canyon entrance, and two of the models feature hipped roofs, while the other two have gabled ends. The setbacks are five feet and nine feet, respectively. The maximum height from finished grade will be 18 feet. Al Maciel, representing the applicant, stated that the project is to be built in phases of approximately 10-12 homes each. The Commission reviewed the preliminary landscape plans for the perimeter wall and landscaping between the wall and the curb. Commissioner Connor suggested that the minimum tree size be 24-inch box; that the amount of shrubbery be doubled; that the amount of ground coverage be tripled; that more use of ground coverage between the sidewalk and curb be encouraged; and that the wall adjacent to Fred Waring Drive be seven feet in height in order to mitigate traffic noise. Commissioner Van Vliet recommended that the windows on the front elevations have additional trim or molding. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to approve the preliminary elevations with the following conditions: that on the landscape plan the minimum tree size be 24-inch box; that the amount of shrubbery be doubled; that the amount of ground coverage be tripled; that more use of ground coverage between the sidewalk and curb be encouraged; that the wall adjacent to Fred Waring Drive be seven feet in height in order to mitigate traffic noise; and that the windows on the front elevations be revised to provide additional trim or molding. Motion carried 6-0. C. Final Working Drawings 1. CASE NO.: PP 97-5 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOHN TURNCOCK for GRAND PRIX CAR WASH, 36-720 Palm Court, Rancho Mirage CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final working drawings 7 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 14, 1997 LOCATION: 72-800 Dinah Shore Drive ZONE: P.C.(2) Mr. Smith reported that the applicant has implemented that which the Commission approved on the preliminary plans. Action: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve the final working drawings as submitted. Motion carried 6-0. 2. CASE NO.: PP 97-11 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BERNARD DEBONNE for PAINE WEBBER, PO BOX 1935, Palm Desert CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final working drawings LOCATION: Parcel 1, Parcel Map No. 28596 located on the north side of Highway 111, 1320 feet east of Deep Canyon Road ZONE: O.P. Mr. Smith reported that the Planning Commission has approved the parcel map creating 16 lots off of this street, and the subject property is immediately east of the Embassy Suites Hotel. The landscape planter will be increased by 1 foot, and the landscape planter will now be seven feet. The building elevation will be similar to that of the buildings to the east in Indian Wells, and the architectural plans are consistent with the preliminary plans. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to approve the final working drawings as submitted. Motion carried 6-0. IV. MISCELLANEOUS A. CASE NO.: APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): NOLAN SPARKS, 79-295 Rancho La 8 MINUTES %%WWI ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 14, 1997 Quinta, La Quinta CA 92253 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 18-foot high residence LOCATION: 77-751 Robin Road ZONE: R.E. Mr. Alvarez reported that this residential estate is in the Palm Desert Country Club area, and the maximum height will be 18 feet from finished grade. Chairman Gregory asked if the building height will be the same as the neighboring structures, to which Mr. Alvarez responded affirmatively. Action: It was moved by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to approve 18-foot high residence as submitted. Motion carried 6-0. B. CASE NO.: APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RANCHO CAPISTRANO DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, 79-687 Country Club Drive, Suite 201, Bermuda Dunes CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of preliminary elevations for model complex Phase 1 of TT 25102 LOCATION: Southeast corner of Deep Canyon Road and Magnesia Falls ZONE: PR-5 Mr. Alvarez reported that the complex will contain 21 lots, and the tract map has already been approved; so this is the preliminary submittal for architecture. The three models will be located on Lots 7 and 8 and all have gabled ends, and the maximum building height will be 18 feet from finished grade. The building sizes will range from 1,800 square feet to 2,600 square feet, and the lots are all over 8,000 square feet in size. Commissioner Urrutia requested that the applicant submit color elevations with a wider range of contrasting colors. 9 MINUTES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION OCTOBER 14, 1997 Commissioner O'Donnell was concerned that all of the models have gabled ends, and suggested that some have hipped roofs and blend in. Commissioner O'Donnell requested that the applicant provide site planning for all units. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to continue approval of the preliminary elevations with the following items to be addressed: that color elevations be submitted using a wider range of contrasting colors; that some of the models have hipped roofs; and that site planning for all units be submitted. Motion carried 6-0. C. NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER MEETING DATES After reviewing the November and December meeting dates, it was the consensus of the Commission to reschedule the November 11th meeting to November 12, 1997 at 12:30 p.m. in the Community Development Conference Room. V. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 1:50 p.m. S EVE SM H PLANNING MANAGER 10