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TUESDAY, JUNE 23, 1998
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I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
Commissioners Present Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Wayne Connor X 11 1
Ronald Gregory X 11 1
Richard Holden X 11 1
Richard O'Donnell X 10 2
Frank Urrutia X 11 1
Chris Van Vliet X 11 1
Staff Present: Phil Drell, Director of Community Development
Steve Smith, Planning Manager
Martin Alvarez, Assistant Planner
Daisy Garcia, Code Enforcement Officer
Kim Chafin, Senior Office Assistant
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved by Commissioner Urrutia, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to
approve the minutes of the June 9, 1998 meeting. Motion carried 5-0, with
Commissioner O'Donnell absent.
I11. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
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IV. CASES
A. Final Drawings
1. CASE NO.: SA 98-62
APPLICANT (ND ADDRESS): IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY for
NATURAL EFFECTS, 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Reconsideration of
previous approval of business identification signage
LOCATION: 73-960 Highway 111, Suite 5
ZONE: C-1
Mr. Alvarez reported that the Commission previously approved the
applicant's signage request subject to conditions. The applicant has
submitted revised drawings which add two vertical poles upon which to
mount the can sign below the soffit.
Commissioner Connor asked where the sign will hang from the soffit, to
which Nancy Cobb of Imperial Sign replied that it will hang three inches from
the edge, because if it were to be pushed back, the copy would be in the
shadow of the overhang.
Commissioner Connor felt that the sign should not hang off the front edge.
Commissioner Van Vliet asked if the sign is to be illuminated, to which Mr.
Alvarez responded affirmatively.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to
approve the revised plans subject to the sign being centered over the
window panel and being located halfway between the front edge of the
overhang and the building. The motion carried 5-0, with Commissioner
O'Donnell absent.
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2. CASE NO.: SA 98-69
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ARCHITECTURAL NEON for KREISS,
74-990 Joni Drive #3-C, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage
LOCATION: 73-990 El Paseo
ZONE: C-1
Mr. Alvarez reported that the building is located at the southwest corner of
Portola and El Paseo. The applicant proposes to place one sign on the
south elevation (El Paseo) and one on the north elevation (adjacent to the
parking lot). The signs will feature reverse channel halo-lit individual letters.
Commissioner Urrutia inquired about the size of the letters, to which Gary
Wright of Architectural Neon replied that the letters on the south elevation will
be 11 inches high, while the letters on the north elevation will be 23 inches
in height.
Commissioner Urrutia asked why the letters on the north elevation are
proposed to be twice as large as the letters on the south elevation, to which
Mr. Wright replied that bigger is better.
Commissioner Urrutia asked about the size of letters currently posted in the
window, to which Mr. Wright responded that he doesn't know because he
was not hired to install that signage.
Action: _
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to
approve the signage, subject to the letters on the north side of the building
being a maximum of 16 inches in height.
Prior to the vote:
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Mr. Wright asked if there is a rule regarding letter height, and pointed out that
the Troy building has 36-inch letters, to which Chairman Gregory replied that
the decision-making of the Architectural Review Commission is subjective
because it pertains to aesthetics, and the Commission considers proportions
when reviewing sign proposals rather than rubber stamping proposals based
on square footage.
Commissioner Connor felt that the north elevation sign as proposed would
be out of scale with the amount of exposed wall space.
Commissioner Connor's motion carried 5-0, with Commissioner O'Donnell
absent.
3. CASE NO.: SA 98-67
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): QUIEL BROTHERS SIGN COMPANY for
WASHINGTON MUTUAL, 727 South I Street, San Bernardino, CA 92410
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage on north, east and south building elevations
LOCATION: 72-705 Highway 111, #8
ZONE: PC(3)
Mr. Alvarez reported that the proposal is for replacement signage for the
building on the south side of Highway 111 formerly occupied by Great
Western Bank. The three signs proposed for the north, south and east
elevations will be placed in the same locations as the existing signs, but will
be smaller than the existing signs. The three signs will be comprised of 16-
inch individual channel letters and a two-foot high logo.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to
approve the plans as presented. The motion carried 5-0, with Commissioner
O'Donnell absent.
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4. CASE NO.: PP 97-13
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): HOWARD HAIT HEARING FACILITY,
42-215 Washington Street, Suite G, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final
landscaping plans
LOCATION: 44-650 Monterey Avenue
ZONE: PR
Mr. Alvarez reported that the Commission previously granted preliminary
approval, and the applicant has now submitted final working drawings which
show that the entrance has been modified pursuant to the conditions
imposed by the Public Works Department. The plant material has also been
changed per the Commission's previous suggestions.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Chairman Gregory, to approve
the plans as submitted. The motion carried 4-0, with Commissioner Holden
abstaining and Commissioner O'Donnell absent.
5. CASE NO.: C 98-7
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): GOLBA ARCHITECTURE, 656 9th
Avenue, San Diego, CA 92101
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final working drawings
for a single-story maintenance facility & landscaping for Palm Valley Country
Club
LOCATION: 76-100 Frank Sinatra Place
ZONE: PR-3
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Mr. Alvarez reported that the Commission previously granted preliminary
approval, subject to conditions. The applicant has submitted revised
drawings and plan to delete the roof-top equipment. The landscape has
been modified pursuant to the Commission's previous suggestions.
Commissioner Connor noted that the parking lot trees must be a minimum
24-inch box in order to meet shade tree ordinance requirements.
Action:
Commissioner Urrutia moved, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to
approve the single-story maintenance facility subject to there being no roof-
top equipment and that the parking lot trees be revised to be a minimum size
of 24-inch box in order to conform to the City's shade tree ordinance
requirements. The motion carried 5-0.
6. CASE NO.: PP 97-2
APPLICANT(AND ADDRESS): SANTA ROSA IRRIGATION DESIGNS for
EL PASEO RETAIL BUILDING, 44-385 Camino Lavanda , La Quinta, CA
92253
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final landscape approval
for a retail building
LOCATION: 73-670 and 680 El Paseo
ZONE: C-1
Mr. Smith reported that the City's landscape consultant, Eric Johnson,
reviewed the plans and had rio comments. Staff would note that the original
submittal included five palm trees, but the revised plans show three trees
which correspond to the three openings in the sidewalk.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to
approve the final landscaping plan as submitted with three palm trees along
the front. The motion carried 5-0, with Commissioner O'Donnell absent.
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7. CASE NO.: CUP 96-28, TT 28450 and TT 28451
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MCFADDEN/MCINTOSH ARCHITECTS
for INTRAWEST RESORT OWNERSHIP CORPORATION, 73-929 Larrea,
Suite 1A, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary and final
landscape approval
LOCATION: Frank Sinatra Drive south to Country Club Drive between
Portola Avenue and Cook Street
ZONE: PR-5
Mr. Smith reported that the City's landscape consultant, Eric Johnson, has
reviewed the plans and provided his written comments thereon. Mr. Johnson
is quite concerned about a sand problem since there appears to be blow
sand in the unplanted areas, to which the applicant's representative
responded that the unplanted areas will feature decomposed granite.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Chairman Gregory, to grant
final approval of the landscaping plan. The motion carried 5-0, with
Commissioner O'Donnell absent.
B. Preliminary Plans
1. CASE NO.: CUP 94-4 Amendment#1
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ST. MARGARET'S EPISCOPAL
SCHOOL, 47-535 Highway 74,_Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of
revised drawings for the expansion of an existing school facility
LOCATION: 47-535 Highway 74
ZONE: P
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Mr. Smith reported that the Planning Commission approved a Conditional
Use Permit last Tuesday for the proposed expansion. When the
Architectural Review Commission discussed the plans, one area of concern
was the height; so the applicant has revised the plans to lower the building
by one foot at the south end, and the roof has also been altered pursuant to
the Commission's suggestions.
Commissioner Urrutia commented that a good landscaping job will make a
big difference in this project, to which Milt Chambers responded that he
received a landscaping plan yesterday from Ray Lopez, and he will bring that
back for the Commission's consideration.
Action:
Commissioner Urrutia moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to
approve the revised drawings for the expansion of the school facility with the
understanding that the landscape plan should include large sized trees
similar to those shown on the rendering. The motion carried 3-0, with
Commissioners Connor and Holden abstaining and Commissioner O'Donnell
absent.
2. CASE NO.: PP 95-5
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AUMILLER YOUNGQUIST
ARCHITECTURE for SULLIVAN'S STEAKHOUSE, 111 East Busse Avenue,
Suite 603, Mt. Prospect, IL 60056
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of
storefront remodel with extended parapet and signage
LOCATION: West elevation of The Gardens on El Paseo fronting San Pablo
ZONE: C-1
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Mr. Drell reported that the City Council has indicated that a blade sign would
be acceptable as long as it was no higher than the parapet. The applicant
proposes to raise the parapet to the same height as the equipment screen
in order to accommodate a ba relief element. The sign averages out to 72
square feet, and the applicant is entitled to 108 square feet. The applicant
has indicated that the reasoning for locating the sign at the proposed height
is to avoid glare into the restaurant from the red neon portion of the sign.
Commissioner Holden asked how the residents across the street will be
affected by the red neon, to which Don Sickler replied that the red neon
portion of the sign will be recessed; so those residents should not be
impacted.
Mr. Drell pointed out that the sign will be situated across from parking lot
rather than the residences.
Commissioner Holden asked why the red neon will glow in one direction and
not the other, to which Mr. Drell replied that the difference is the proximity of
the sign, which will be immediately adjacent to the restaurant and thus have
more potential for glare into the restaurant as opposed to the buildings
across the street.
Commissioner Holden suggested that the glow from the sign be controlled
by a dimming device.
Mr. Drell noted that the tenant sign criteria approved by the City Council
restricts illumination to the north-facing side so as not to impact the residents
to the south.
Commissioner Urrutia asked about the height of the size, to which Mr. Sickler
responded by indicating 18 feet.
Commissioner Urrutia asked of what materials the proposed mural will be
composed, to which Mr. Sickler replied that the ba relief panel will be
sculpted out of Styrofoam and coated with a hard plastic surface and then
painted, and added that the mural will depict prize fighter John L. Sullivan
knocking out an opponent.
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Mr. Drell noted that the proposed sign will be the only one on the east side
of The Gardens project and will be set back 20 to 25 feet from the sidewalk
along San Pablo, and is set back approximately 100 feet from El Paseo.
Commissioner Van Vliet asked how much the parapet is proposed to be
increased, to which Mr. Sickler replied six feet and two steps.
Commissioners Connor and Van Vliet commented favorably on the design
of the sign.
Commissioner Urrutia suggested that the parapet be more in proportion with
the rest of the building, with which Chairman Gregory concurred and
suggested that the parapet be at the same height, but that the depth be
expanded back to the equipment screen area, and that the bottom of the
sign be left in the proposed location, that the top of the sign be shortened
to 15 feet, maintaining the same proportions.
Action:
Commissioner Urrutia moved, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to grant
preliminary approval for the storefront remodel with the following conditions:
1)that the bottom of the blade sign remain unchanged, and that the height
be shortened to 15 feet; and 2) that the parapet height be as proposed, but
that the depth be expanded back to the equipment screen. The motion
carried 5-0, with Commissioner O'Donnell absent.
3. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSh WAYNE SHARP for LOUIS STRAUSS,
73-920 Grapevine Street, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of
storefront remodel and signage for OfficeMax
LOCATION: 73-405 Highway 111 (former location of Lucky market)
ZONE: C-1
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Mr. Drell reported that the applicant is requesting approval for a storefront
remodel and new signage for the leased space formerly occupied by the
Lucky market on San Pablo. The applicant has been working with the owner
of the entire center regarding a renovation of the center, including
landscaping for the parking lot; however, this application pertains solely to
the storefront remodel and new signage. The applicant is entitled to 108
square feet of signage; so the proposal meets that criteria. The sign will
feature red internally illuminated letters.
Commissioner Urrutia stated that he has a problem with the design of the
adjacent storefront space relative to the proposed design of the OfficeMax
space, and suggested that the two be differentiated, i.e., a change in roof
height.
Chairman Gregory asked if it would be possible to lower the roof height of
the space to the south, to which Mr. Strauss responded affirmatively, and
indicated that it would be lowered two to four feet.
Commissioner Holden noted that the front entry doors are located such that
a patron exiting the building may walk into the columns, and suggested that
the doors be centered in relation to the parapet.
Action:
Commissioner Holden moved, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to grant
conceptual approval with the following conditions: 1) that there be more
differentiation between the leased space to the south and the OfficeMax
space; 2) that further study be done regarding the front entry and the
corresponding columns; and 3) that the color of the steel wrapped columns
be rust. The motion carried 4-0, with Chairman Gregory abstaining and
Commissioner O'Donnell absent.
Because of concerns regarding the proposed red color for the sign, Mr.
Smith indicated that, should the Commission deny that portion of the
application, the applicant may choose to proceed with the trademark color
if the size of the sign is reduced by 20%.
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Mr. Drell asked if the Commission would prefer that the monument sign not
be comprised of a can sign mounted on the monument base, to which
Commissioners Holden and Urrutia responded affirmatively, and added that
they would prefer that the monument sign be more of an architectural
masonry element.
Action:
Commissioner Van Vliet moved, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to
approve the signage with the following conditions: 1) that the wall mounted
sign be fitted with rheostat and that the color used be the darker of the two
red/ burgundy color materials submitted; and 2) that staff be authorized to
approve the monument signage. The motion carried 4-0, with Chairman
Gregory abstaining and Commissioner O'Donnell absent.
4. CASE NO.: SA 98-71
APPLICANT (AND ADDREW CITY OF PALM DESERT
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of City Hall
banners and framework
LOCATION: Northeast corner of San Pablo and Fred Waring Drive
ZONE: P
City Clerk Sheila Gilligan reported that the idea is to improve the aesthetics
of the existing banner framework as well as to keep the banners taut.
Gary Goodsell of Publicity Unlimited presented an off-white, hard plastic
element which would cov&_the wooden posts, and indicated that the
proposed colors of the posts would actually be bright blue and green and
that a mountain-shaped background relief element would be painted green.
Commissioner Holden commented that the bright colors of the posts may
clash with the colors on the banners, which are usually quite colorful, with
which Chairman Gregory agreed and suggested that the off-white color of
the material sample presented would be more subtle and most appropriate.
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Commissioner Van Vliet suggested that the mountain relief element also be
painted off-white.
Action:
Commissioner Urrutia moved, seconded by Chairman Gregory, to approve
wooden posts with off-white acrylic covering, as well as off-white mountain-
shaped background relief, and the letters "Palm Desert Coming Attractions"
in a dark rust color. The motion carried 5-0, with Commissioner O'Donnell
absent.
5. CASE NO.: PP/CUP 98-11
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSL MELANIE PLACE PARTNERS, 73-441
Mariposa Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of
expansion of KESQ-TV studios and offices
LOCATION: 42-650 Melanie Place
ZONE: SI
Mr. Smith reported that this case is scheduled to go before the Planning
Commission on July 7, 1998. The number of code-required parking spaces
for this project is 36, and the plan only shows 31 spaces; so staff will be
recommending that the building size be reduced in order to correspond with
parking availability.
Commissioner Urrutia commented on the lack of an on-site trash enclosure,
to which Mr. Smith responded that staff will look into that, since it will
probably mean the loss of another parking space.
Commissioner Van Vliet asked about satellite dishes, to which Joe Dunn
replied that the satellite dishes are located to the south of the building, and
there is no intent to install additional dishes.
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Mr. Dunn commented that the owner submitted a letter to the City indicating
that there are currently 64 parking spaces, and the addition of 31 parking
spaces will total 95, and the total number of people working in the building
is 90. The parking is gated for the exclusive use of employees.
Commissioner Holden asked if the addition will tie in architecturally with the
existing building, to which Mr. Dunn responded affirmatively, and noted that
some of the elements mimic those on the existing building.
Chairman Gregory suggested that the gazania be changed to crushed
colored rock and that a palm tree be added to Melanie Place outside the
middle of the wall at the southwest corner of the new development.
Mr. Smith noted that the parking lot trees will have to comply with the
ordinance requirements.
Action:
Commissioner Holden moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to
grant preliminary approval. The motion carried 5-0, with Commissioner
O'Donnell absent.
C. Miscellaneous
1. CASE NO.: HD PP 91-1
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MARK WILK CONSTRUCTION for Stacey
Bardfield & Donn Steier, P.O. Box 2152, Palm Springs, CA 92263
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final working
drawings for hillside residence_
LOCATION: 45-895 Edgehill
ZONE: HPRD
Mr. Alvarez reported that the subject property is a hillside residential lot
which has been approved by the Planning Commission.
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Action:
Chairman Gregory moved, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to approve
the final working drawings. The motion carried 5-0, with Commissioner
O'Donnell absent.
2. CASE NO.: MISC 98-9
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SUZANNE WAITE, 78650 42nd Avenue
#1406, Bermuda Dunes, CA 92201
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of six-foot wall
12 feet from face of curb
LOCATION: 74718 Peppertree
ZONE: R-1 (10,000)
Mr. Alvarez reported that the residence is located at the southwest corner of
Peppertree and El Toro. The applicant proposes to install a six-foot slump
stone wall 12 feet from the face of curb for the purposes of privacy and
security.
Commissioner Van Vliet expressed concern about the height of the in such
close proximity to the curb.
Commissioner Urrutia suggested that if the applicant truly wants a six-foot
wall, it should not be located within the required 15-foot setback, and
suggested that the wall either be pushed back to 15 feet, or, if the wall is to
be located 12 feet from the curb, that the height of the wall be reduced.
Action:
Commissioner Van Vliet moved, seconded by Commissioner Connor, to
approve a 12-foot setback for a five-foot wall returning into the garage at a
location to be approved by staff. The motion carried 5-0, with Commissioner
O'Donnell absent.
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3. CASE NO.: PP 98-13
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DAVID AND LEISA AUSTIN, 73-970 EL
PASEO, PALM DESERT, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of a
two story art gallery and landscaping plans
LOCATION: East of Highway. 74, South of El Paseo
ZONE: P.C. (4)
Mr. Smith presented the preliminary plans for the two-story art gallery.
Chairman Gregory commented that the design looks very good and he
expects the project will be an asset to the City, with which Commissioner
Van Vliet concurred.
Action:
Chairman Gregory moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to grant
preliminary approval. The motion carried 3-0, with Commissioner Connor
and Holden abstaining and Commissioner O'Donnell absent.
4. CASE NO.: PP 98-11
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BRUCE KAPLAN, M.D., P.O. Box 1543,
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of an
8,800 square foot industrial building
LOCATION: Northwest corner of St. Charles Place and Mediterranean
ZONE: SI
Mr. Smith noted that the applicant is not present.
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Commissioner Van Vliet commented that there are rarely parking spaces
available on this street during the day, and the proposed layout of the
building doesn't make any sense because the office entries are not adjacent
to the parking lot.
Commissioner Urrutia remarked that the typical situation is for an architect
to propose too much building for a site; however, this plan has plenty of room
for landscaping on the north elevation.
Chairman Gregory stated that this project needs a real landscaping plan.
Commissioner Urrutia felt that the building elevations need more articulation,
with which Commissioner Van Vliet concurred, and added that this location
is a highly visible corner.
Commissioner Urrutia commented that the Mediterranean side of the building
is an effort to make it look a little different, and suggested that that style be
extended to the St. Charles Place exposure, especially on the corner.
Because of the corner lot, the parking lot side of the project will be visible
from the north; so he would suggest additional landscaping for that area.
Chairman Gregory suggested that the comments by the City's landscape
consultant, Eric Johnson, should also be taken into consideration.
Commissioner Urrutia noted the presence of a single isolated parking space
and suggested that it be eliminated if it is not a required parking space, to
which Mr. Smith replied that it is the 20th parking space.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner Urrutia, to
continue the case. The motion carried 5-0, with Commissioner O'Donnell
absent.
5. Review and comments on Palm Desert Year 2010 Strategic Plan
The Commissioners expressed appreciation for the opportunity to review the
2010 plan.
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V. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 4:20 p.m.
S-ffVt SMITH
PLANNING MANAGER
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